SCORPIOS & INSANITY (mental illness)-true stories

No offense for the Scorps here..but I am sharing this for us all, so we can understand each other better.

This woman was working at our office before and she is a Scorpio.
She was insane (clinically). She has a few personalities and she was obsessed with our supervisor at that time.
To cut the story short, she stalked him and he had to report to the police.

She got fired, in spite of her good performance.
I remember her as a colleague, she was very caring but reserved.
She would go out of her way to help friends who are in sadness/trouble..but she is very secretive.

Last night a friend told me a story about another Scorpio colleague in her office, this time it's a man.
He is also showing traits of insanity (disturbed behavior, violence, mental illness) and the boss is now putting him on evaluation, they are trying to fire him.

Why did this happen? Is it because of the emotional tendencies in Scorpio?
They tend to be very secretive and you never know about these mental illness until one day they explode and it's like watching a thriller movie.

i thought insanity meant going to the other side completely not being a functioning, CARING human being who just happens to be obsessed with their boss.

because what you mentioned just sounds like a pair of introverts who are quite socially awkward.

there's probably a lot of scorps on this board who've stalked and never been caught and have just
outgrown that sh**.

not saying stalking is a good thing to do but some people can hold stuff in for so long they... their reality begins to slip a little.

I have noticed that scorpios with heavy aqua influence especially moon in aquarious tend to have bio-polar behaviour. Famous people with this problem: Adam Ant, Vivien Leigh.

on a somewhat related note, in my job i worth with a lot of individuals with severe psychological disorders (schizophrenia, schizoaffective, and bipolar are the most common). i have access to their personal info, including birthday. i've noticed the VAST majority of the individuals i work with are earth signs.

just something i found kind of interesting.

*worth = work, hahah i have an e-lisp

I think with Charles Manson and the way he lived it had a lott to do with the way he's home life was when he was growing up. I read an interview with him where he sad that once his mother sold him to some people for some food, and that all he wanted was her to hug him, so I think that really difened who he was later in life. And the fact that he doesn't even want to be out of jail, he said once that jail is a place where he knows how to live, so maybe if he had normal upbringin he would be different. And at the and anyone can tell you:''hey you know what you should do? you should go across a street and kill the first person that you meet, that would be realy great''. But if you are normal you are gonna say;''What? No way man that's just wrong, you are crazy". So if it wasn't Charles Manson someone else would talk does people it to doing something horible. I mean people can try to control you, but it is only up to you will you let them. Adam And also had a horible life at home when he was a child, I thing in general with all wather signs it is really important are they growing up in a healthy home, I know it is for everyone but earth singns as they grow up tend to trow away some bads thing that happened to them, and water signs clinge to things that they went throu when they were kids. I have moon in pisces and sadly I am still defined with some thing that happened when I was 10 and I will be 25 this year so....😢

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Adam Ant really did think he was the Dandy highway man eventually.

*walks into pub*

"Stand and Deliver !!"

lmao

Manson doesn't look like someone who's past it from that interview.

For one thing he's picking up on things like the interviewer brushing off his boasts and attempts at talking about himself.

Look at the way he smiles when the interviewer cuts him off as he's talking about a bracelet.

Everyone's crazy. The question that makes one set of crazy continue in normal society while the other is institutionalized is this: does my crazy put you in danger?

From what I can tell dude doesn't like people. That explains why he has no remorse (besides the fact that he didn't lift a finger to kill anyone).

Actually he shows remorse when talking about the guy who's ear he cut off but rationalizes why he did what he did as well.

Also it's people like theinterviewer that create Mansons, you know.

The interviewer seems like he'd have nothing but disdain for Manson whether or not he was responsible for what had happened.

So the she scorp has a bit of a point there, everevolving.

I heard a sentence once that said: ''We are all products of our previous experience". So I think that can be applied to Charles M. life. Maybe. But here is another scorpio with mental problem. Poeth Sylvia Plath. She suffered from depression and committed suicide by placing her head in the oven, with the gas turned on. She had scorpio sun, moon libra and rising aquarius. Virgo, Scorpio and Aquarius where the most dominant signs for her. And Uranus as a planet. I keep thinking maybe it's that Uranus that made her finish things the way she did.

Posted by ellybd
But the same can be said for fire signs and their passion and ambition.

Haha nicely put. True

Wow I had no idea he sang lol

Posted by kristalaries
No offense for the Scorps here..but I am sharing this for us all, so we can understand each other better.

This woman was working at our office before and she is a Scorpio.
She was insane (clinically). She has a few personalities and she was obsessed with our supervisor at that time.
To cut the story short, she stalked him and he had to report to the police.

She got fired, in spite of her good performance.
I remember her as a colleague, she was very caring but reserved.
She would go out of her way to help friends who are in sadness/trouble..but she is very secretive.

Last night a friend told me a story about another Scorpio colleague in her office, this time it's a man.
He is also showing traits of insanity (disturbed behavior, violence, mental illness) and the boss is now putting him on evaluation, they are trying to fire him.

Why did this happen? Is it because of the emotional tendencies in Scorpio?
They tend to be very secretive and you never know about these mental illness until one day they explode and it's like watching a thriller movie.

"Why did this happen? Is it because of the emotional tendencies in Scorpio?
They tend to be very secretive and you never know about these mental illness until one day they explode and it's like watching a thriller movie."

I don't think it necessarily has to do with "Scorpio" as much as it has to do with the individual.
The sad part is that there is a reason behind the behavior - If you DON'T know the person's background,
then you don't know the reasons why. This is the BIG mistake everyone seems to make when they judge other
people. Even those who may arouse suspicions.

Check out Borderline Personality Disorder. It effects a lot of people and not just any one "sign" or X class or group.

Such an interesting topic 🙂
There's a potential for stalking in every strong Scorpio-influenced chart; someone going through a scorpionic phase (by transit or progression) can experience that. We are probably fascinated because of the the stalker lurking in each and every one of us (lol Eminem lyrics)

About Algol. I have Algol conjunct Mars (!!) conjunct SNode in 1 degree, very tight, but that doesn't turn me into a killer, and beware of such interpretations, since they can get misleading. It is indeed too bad that not a lot of info exists, so for now I can only observe these things with my own life as an experiment. Algol is Medusa's outraged head. Seems Medusa was originally raped by Poseidon and her face remained frozen in horror against men's brutal force. I am a bit of a feminist, true, but not going overboard. How the archetype has manifested in my case is that I've been witness and exposed to human cruelty more than the regular woman.
Another interpretation proposed was that of "losing one's head over men" (Medusa is beheaded); the archetypes can manifest in many, many ways.

There are no good or bad charts, imho. Lol Mengele's chart looks amazing if you don't consider the underlying "I must do harm to you in order to do good and turn you into a blue-eyed arian person" coming out of his Pisces/Uranian thing going. Brrrr. It is not the chart who dictates who will turn into a serial killer and who won't. There is a free will in this you know

This is why I find astrology so fascinating: nobody knows why how and where some of the scorps (or other signs for that matter) will turn into killers and some will quit school to become Bill Gates.
Research has been made and incidentally serial killers come predominantly from distortions of mutable signs (Gemini Virgo Sag and Pisces). Pisces can have a complete disconnect with feelings (Dennis Rader the BTK killer is Pisces, Ted Bundy was a Sag, the clown was a gemini etc) There's somewhere a lack of remorse and capacity to do these things without the culpability the other signs feel more. This is a very large story

Posted by Reconstructing_a_Leo
This is why I find astrology so fascinating: nobody knows why how and where some of the scorps (or other signs for that matter) will turn into killers and some will quit school to become Bill Gates.
Research has been made and incidentally serial killers come predominantly from distortions of mutable signs (Gemini Virgo Sag and Pisces). Pisces can have a complete disconnect with feelings (Dennis Rader the BTK killer is Pisces, Ted Bundy was a Sag, the clown was a gemini etc) There's somewhere a lack of remorse and capacity to do these things without the culpability the other signs feel more. This is a very large story

I'd like to see a comprehensive chart showing sign/crime associations.
It seems that Scorpios are targeted as the dark ones. Just because a man wants to rip someone's head clean off
doesn't mean he belongs to any one sign. There are other factors involved.

Generally though Uranus does come with a trauma signature though. Heavy Uranus influences relate to a person's inability to accept humans a flawed (Uranus didn't accept his offsprings). They are not comfortable around feelings and emotions, and may try to enforce an ideal for the better of that person in disregarding the individual's human circumstances and condition.

People who are into past lives and such readings look at certain Uranus configurations in one's chart to recall previous traumatic experiences in a prior life.

Posted by Reconstructing_a_Leo
Generally though Uranus does come with a trauma signature though. Heavy Uranus influences relate to a person's inability to accept humans a flawed (Uranus didn't accept his offsprings). They are not comfortable around feelings and emotions, and may try to enforce an ideal for the better of that person in disregarding the individual's human circumstances and condition.

People who are into past lives and such readings look at certain Uranus configurations in one's chart to recall previous traumatic experiences in a prior life.

Hmmmm Uranus must be a pain in the ass.
I wonder if people who are caught up in reincarnation and such as you mentioned are really just people with multiple personalities.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Someone once posted something along those lines, although not a definitive iirc Pisces and Cancer I think scored the highest.

I obviously observe signs intensely, and the Pisces occasional disconnect from feelings does freak me out. The evolved Pisces can be loving and accepting all humanity, but because it is the last transpersonal sign concerned with groups of ppl, humanity in general, it can no longer relate to the individual drama.

Water signs are most dangerous when criminal. Now that you mention Cancer, I once wanted to prove this theory on water signs by counting the signs on the FBI's top 10 most wanted: 6 were Cancer. Out of 12 signs.

Mr. Firebird, to me Scorpio is the most important sign.
I feel such an enormous compassion towards the cute little animal, so misunderstood and scapegoated in so many ways. Some of the Scorpio members do become demonic, Pluto IS the ruler of the underworld, but certain things are necessary to this world it seems.
Oh you got me started now 🙂

Every sign has a dark shadow and light genius. Uranus rules communication and technological inventions. Age of Aquarius, internet and fbook?
Pluto is murder and Phoenix rebirth.
The Sun is life giving light as well as scorching energy-drying heat.

I once read about the most fascinating case of a Scorpio, as told by a famous astrologer. The Scorp man committed suicide because all his life he had been haunted by images and fantasies of cruelty and murder, depression, could not establish a warm relation with anybody, was clinically diagnosed and maniac depressive, a loner. Never acted on those fantasies, confessed to the astrologer they destroyed him inside. Didn't know where they came from, and why. Like a mummy coming out of dark waters. Psychiatrists did not know how to treat him other than the medicationthat didn't ultimately work. Had an astrologer seen him earlier for therapy session, maybe the man would have understood certainparameters of his life, and why? Nobody knows, still, it seems Scorpios get bornunder this sign to experience such things. Now I thinkof Winona Ryder's cas, a beautiful actress completely destroying her career with futile shoplifting.
Why are these things necessary to purge the soul? No idea. Whatever made Scott Peterson get rid of his Taurus wife? Who knows. This, to me, is beyond Halloween..

Posted by DeadRingerr
I thought Gemini's were up there, pertaining to criminal behavior....Or are we talking about like, killing people, kind of criminal activity?

Geminis are usually connected to fraud, tricksters, pranksters, economic crime, but can become violent.
Gemini is the Mercury sign, the only god who's a messenger for gods, the only one who will descend to Pluto's underworld to relay messages. This is most important when understanding Geminis. They say Geminis can get other souls lost in the woods because the god takes them to Pluto.
That's why with a Gemini, one twin is building, and the other is destroying (descending to Pluto)

🙂 the above is a summary of my understanding of them from multiple books, you can try wiki gemini first since the gemini segment was enhanced, here's what it says

"Cirlot points out that a study of the Gemini-myth in megalithic culture shows that it has two tendencies: "one white and the other black; one creates, the other destroys; both these characteristics are indicated by the arms of each of the Twins, which in landscape symbolism are identical with the river of youth and the river of death".[9]

When a gemini, reading the Castor-Pollux story is an absolute must.

It means Mercury is at its home, which is good in a way; from my experience the planet's sign and house counts, but the aspects it forms matter more. The sign and house matter in terms of determining the football field where the match will take place; the environment; it is the planetary aspects who play the game: ex. mercury/pluto, etc. Read into that 🙂
So funny, you are the third gemini who keeps asking these things in a very short while, this fall I've managed to contaminate a Gemini with astrology readings lol

I think everyone of every sign can have some degree of mental instability. But I agree with Earth and Water signs do have tendencies for it more than others. I being an Earth sign myself have some degree of obsessive tendencies as well as depression and general anxiety. It's because I deal with everyday struggles with my own emotions and thoughts. I'm a Capricorn, so it is hard for me to express my feelings. Especially when I'm angry. Because of the fear of embarrassing myself. My Scorpio boyfriend is pretty similar. But he does open up to me as I do to him. He also can be obsessive at times and is a worrier like me. But together, we quickly get over our worries and come up with solutions that make things better for us. We make a great team and a force to be recaned with. Or however you spell it lol. That's my view on that whole subject.

Posted by 1two3go
Also it's people like theinterviewer that create Mansons, you know.

The interviewer seems like he'd have nothing but disdain for Manson whether or not he was responsible for what had happened.

So the she scorp has a bit of a point there, everevolving.

that makes me think of the movie Natural Born Killers, Robert Downey Jr's role.