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Posted by Reincarnation
Scorpios are crazy people who are capable of doing crazy things. We also tend to be attracted to weird people who do crazy things - which is why some of us end up with water women.

You could do something crazy. Tell him you will delete all your social media - do anything, really - to show your devotion to him alone. It's extreme, but Scorps are extreme.

I would not recommend doing that, personally - since he was intimate with another woman. But that would undoubtedly get a strong, positive reaction from him.

Again, I wouldn't do it, but it's up to you.
I'm not going to do that ๐Ÿ™‚ But I agree with you...knowing him that would probably work.

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Posted by FrostAndBite
Try running your chart again OP. Cancer sun can only have Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo or Virgo Venus.

What's your moon?
Okay, I ran mine online rather than from my book and this is what it says (I am sorry I don't know my time of birth if that affects)

Moon Capricorn
Mercury Leo
Venus Cancer
Mars Cancer
Jupiter Capricorn
Saturn Scorpio

Also don't know his time of birth but I think it is

Sun Scorpio
Moon Capricorn
Mercury Scorpio
Venus Scorpio
Mars Libra
Jupiter Aries
Saturn Sag

I don't really know what any of that means though!


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Posted by BrightLight
I didn't read the whole thread so this may have already been said, but when you dumped him at the first sign of trouble and after he had already told you he liked you more than he thought he would, you threw yourself into the "weak" category. If you liked him like you said, why didn't you continue to like him and work through a rough patch?
No, it wasn't a rough patch. It was consistent behavior of him saying he really liked me and acting the opposite way.

Can you come to this event with me next week? Hmm not sure...let me check my diary

When will I see you this week? Hmm...not sure....let me check my diary I am kind of busy with my job.

One words responses to texts. Not calling. Not making plans for the holidays together.

When a guy acts really infatuated and happy with you and can't do enough to be with you or be around you and then he switches like a lightswitch to being like that it feels absolutely horrible. I am a really sensitive person and it had me in tears on more than one occassion. I didn;t want to be with someone who said they liked me but acted like they didn't. I was wondering what I had done wrong. I was wondering if he didn't like me anymore. I was wondering if he was seeing someone else. I told him upfront that I really liked him but that I needed consistency, time and for him to talk to me and explain and he wouldn't do it.

What do you do?

I mean, sure, if I had made the decsion back then to just leave him, give him as much space as he needed.....being honest I think he would still have slept with tis girl. The point was he was trying to put boundaries between us and blocks. He was not trying to grow a relationship, he was trying to ruin it -and he knows this. So there's a big diferrence between patience and love and being just a doormat.

I get he has issues, but I have a heart and needs also. I want to be with someone who wants to deliver those also. It;s not 100% only his needs that matter. If that means losing him, then that;s the price I pay. the other choise was losing myself.
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I didn't read the whole thread so this may have already been said, but when you dumped him at the first sign of trouble and after he had already told you he liked you more than he thought he would, you threw yourself into the "weak" category. If you liked him like you said, why didn't you continue to like him and work through a rough patch?
Nobody can ever answer this.....nor do they ever realise this the root cause of most fuckery when dealing with scorpios.
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I honestly don't even think she actually liked this Scorp guy. All she seems to do is complain about him. It's tiring to read. He gave good infatuation which fed her ego. The moment he didn't act the way she wanted, she bitched and moaned about it to him. I wonder if she ever had anything nice to say about him? Then she breaks up with him and is flabbergasted that her ego stroke would dare sleep with someone else so quickly. But by his most recent response, it looks like he's relieved it's over with her.

He even gave her a slap in the face comment about how good the sex was. His version of revenge/leaving dignified.
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Posted by FrostAndBite
Try running your chart again OP. Cancer sun can only have Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo or Virgo Venus.

What's your moon?
Okay, I ran mine online rather than from my book and this is what it says (I am sorry I don't know my time of birth if that affects)

Moon Capricorn
Mercury Leo
Venus Cancer
Mars Cancer
Jupiter Capricorn
Saturn Scorpio

Also don't know his time of birth but I think it is

Sun Scorpio
Moon Capricorn
Mercury Scorpio
Venus Scorpio
Mars Libra
Jupiter Aries
Saturn Sag

I don't really know what any of that means though!

Wow - you two are extremely compatible.
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Yeah, it felt that way.

I haven't ever felt compatability like that with someone before, which sounds crazy given the way he acted, but when he WASN'T acting like that and being what he calls "his real self" it felt like all the stars had aligned and we were just a totally perfect match. Sexually, conversation, emotions...

It's hard to feel that way about someone and walk away...even when they are being an asshole.
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Posted by BrightLight
I didn't read the whole thread so this may have already been said, but when you dumped him at the first sign of trouble and after he had already told you he liked you more than he thought he would, you threw yourself into the "weak" category. If you liked him like you said, why didn't you continue to like him and work through a rough patch?
Nobody can ever answer this.....nor do they ever realise this the root cause of most fuckery when dealing with scorpios.
Very true.

If you're going to show signs of giving up this early, it will be a serious red flag for me - no matter how subtle.
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Really?

From the male friends I know they told me he was way out of line and that he'd not respect me unless I set boundaries.

I really didn;t see it as letting him down. you think he was putting me through the initial tests to see if I would stick before he opened up?

I guess I failed that test if it was.
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I didn't read the whole thread so this may have already been said, but when you dumped him at the first sign of trouble and after he had already told you he liked you more than he thought he would, you threw yourself into the "weak" category. If you liked him like you said, why didn't you continue to like him and work through a rough patch?
Nobody can ever answer this.....nor do they ever realise this the root cause of most fuckery when dealing with scorpios.
I honestly don't even think she actually liked this Scorp guy. All she seems to do is complain about him. It's tiring to read. He gave good infatuation which fed her ego. The moment he didn't act the way she wanted, she bitched and moaned about it to him. I wonder if she ever had anything nice to say about him? Then she breaks up with him and is flabbergasted that her ego stroke would dare sleep with someone else so quickly. But by his most recent response, it looks like he's relieved it's over with her.

He even gave her a slap in the face comment about how good the sex was. His version of revenge/leaving dignified.
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I really, really liked him. that's a strange response. Why did you feel I didn't like him

Of course I am complaining about him. I'm hurt and rejected and pretty well broken hearted. the fact that I liked him, or how much, won;t be seen on this internet page. It was seen in the fact that as soon as we started dating I couldn;t wait to see him. I'd be literally looking out of the window with palms sweating unable to sit down because I couldn't wait to see him. It was seen in the fact that a text message from him lit up my entire day. It was seen in me making out the most awesome birthday suprise for him. And introducing him to my family and friends (which I NEVER do) and in me waking up incredible early to make him breakfast and a coffee and how my bed felt depressing when he was gone. Believe me. I liked him. I probably liked him more than I have ever liked anyone.

But I wasn't willing to put up with him disappearing for two weeks, talking to other girls, being unavailable for dates and refusing to talk to me or explain why any of that was happenning even though he KNEW it was making me cry and pushing me away. Would you tell your daughter to date a guy who was doing that? I ws lost of any and all other avenues of action other than breaking it off and letting him go and decide whether he wanted to be in a relationship or not.

And the answer was "not".
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Posted by elllesque
I can not allow you to have my heart if at the first sign of trouble your choice is to bail. I will not chase you. I will more than likely hurt you if you give me another chance.

Not cool? I know. But my heart is really important to me.
thanks Elleseque. I totally understand that. It's appreciated for you to help me see that maybe I didn;t help things, but I guess my heart is also precious to me...and so we ended up with two people that maybe could hve been happy screwing it up.
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Posted by BrightLight
So, except for being soooo into you, what were some of this Scorps good qualities? Anything?

You appear to have already trashed him to all your friends.
No, I didn't. I defended him to my friends. When i was crying they were telling me the guy was not serious about me and to drop him. My friends don't like to see me cry, I am sure youre don't either - but I didn't trash him. I was crazy about him.

What qualities did he have that I liked?

Well, he was quietly thoughtful. He wasn't like other people in that he said what you wanted to hear...he kind of tought about stuff really carefully and let it out on his own time. He also genuinely cared how I felt - which appears to be a constradiction seeing as he kept on hurting me - but when he could see I ws hurt I don;t think I have ever seen anyone with more emoathy and care and consideration. He hated seeing me hurt or upset, I felt like it actually upset HIM equally to do that. I have never been with anyone like that before. He wanted to talk all the time into the night...about stuff that materred. Like religion. Seriously...like religion and life and death and things that were BIG and important. And when his guard was down he was like a child in his innocence in some ways...asking for my approval...wanting me to tell him I liked him or thought he was good at something. He was very gentle. His hands were gentle and he was a person who worked with children nd the way he talked to them was so sensitive and thoughtful. He thought aout the future alot, created fantasies and he seemed to understand the way my emotions worked and his worked kind of the same. He was so affectionate...like the only person I ever met who kissed me in his actual sleep. And he was so sexual..like the most immsensely sexy person I have ever met and his touch was like nothing I ever felt before. And he was sort of shy but confident all at the same time. And when he talked and painted a picture of something he had my imagination so hooked I would be smiling like I was there. And he always kissed me as soon as he walked in the door for about 15 minutes without anyone even taking their coat off or putting a bag down, like it was so ugently important to kiss me that nothing else matterred. And he'd been so badly hurt, and so badly treated and had such an awful childhood but he always spoke of people gently and with quiet strength. And he almost seemed to be resigned to the fact if he loved someone he would have his heart broken, which was sad but also hard not to want to love. And becaue he wasn;t swayed by the prettiest girl like every other guy. He didn;t sleep around or hurt people.

So yes, I really, REALLY liked him.

But he was rejecting me, and admits he didn;t want a relationship, with me, or anyone and he backed me into a corner to push me to do it. He did do that.
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Posted by BrightLight
I see what you are saying. If all that happened exactly like you said, then he's an ass. But I have to wonder what kind of communication was going on between you during the pull back. It sounds like it was confused.
I won't pretend I handled it well Brighlight. It has never happenned to me before like that....or it has but only when I was being dumped..so I presumed when it first happenned I was being dumped. I reacted in all sorts of ways. At first it was trying to get his attention...so contacting him a bit more, wondering if I had done something wrong. Then I reacted by pulling away myself and not contacting him AT ALL and he inevitably came back when he was ready. Then I tried to talk to him and tell him how it was making me feel, and he'd tell me not to overthink and worry and that we were fine. then I tried laying reassurance on quite thick...which had the worst effect of all and he pulled totally back. I felt like I was bending myself into all sort of shapes to be liked and get him to spend time with me.

In reality the only thing that worked was leaving him alone, being quite and patient and letting him come to me. But I knew during that time apart he was texting other girls...so I couldn't live with that. I felt like if he had time for them it should be spent with me.

I guess if I had been stronger, or more mentally practical and less emotonal I would have handled it better and not taken it so personally. Trouble was I did take it personally and was feeling anxious an tearful and you're not meant to feel like that are you?

Truth is he went into it thinking negatively though. He kept saying I would meet someone else and he was "fully prepared for that" and he said that maybe 5 or 6 times. I can get insecurity, but I also can't be beaten down for the sins of his ex He wasn't prepared to be open to the experience and maybe not healed or ready yet

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If you really like this guy and want to work this out, I'd copy all that nice stuff you wrote about him in your last post, paste it into a text and tell him you just posted that on a message board about him. Scorpios love it when you look deep inside and are understanding about what you find.

And hey! Who gives a fuck what he replies? You got to be real with him and let him know that you get him. At the end of the day, you can feel good about that.
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You know, I guess his behavior made me feel insecure so I have never told him any of that stuff, or how I felt about him. I guess maybe you're right.

Even if he doesn't respond well, which I doubt he would seeing as he doesn't want a relationship, then I guess it would be nice for him to know he made me feel that way about him. Maybe might help him battle some of those demons.

Your post just made me cry.

I really am going to miss him. Life sucks at times huh
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Ok, I am going to do it.

Not tonight though...I know he's busy with stuff and I want the right moment.

I feel pretty nervous, but I get what you're saying. It's a good thing to do for someone.

And he's messed up a lot with me, but he's still all of those things and he's a beautiful, messed up person, that I love and I'd like him to know that. Even if I don't see him again.

when I do it I will tell you all what he says.

It'll be something like "oh thats so sweet", but I guess I can cry into my milkshake.

I have never, ever, ever had a man make me feel this vulnerable before. It sucks!
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I can see the sense in bth sides of that argument.

White Cholcolate and Black Mamba - your views and opinions are the way I felt when I walked away - felt like he was treating me like crap and I needed to stand up for myself, but I guess these people have made me see the other side too.

I've no intention of being a doormat or putting up with crappy behavior, but also want to say how I feel because I feel like it's eating me up.

I don;t know what to heck to do.
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Posted by mistywindows
I guess I don;t understand...tell a girl you want her...start an amazing relationship that is going great....pull away out of nowhere...cause the girl you are with to feel hurt and rejected and end the relationship in frustration and then sleep with someone else? Someone who had been chasing him for ages, that he could have had at anytime? It seems so destructive and senseless.

And why unfollow me on everything? I feel like I am hated or something and don;t get why ๐Ÿ˜ข
Self sabatoge. Scorpios are good at that. It's like I'd rather hurt myself than you hurt me.

He may have been truly afraid of being hurt by you, so he did this.
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late, but here goes...
Scorps like humility. They don't mind being humble when they respect you. They Large like that. :-)

So, this is O.U.T.:
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...The ex boyfriend and I are really good friends..



Posted by mistywindows
If I stopped talking to all the male friends I have who had asked me out, I'd not have mANY left.



Good, this is IN^^. Just the way Scorpio likes it.

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That doesn't mean I keep them around as an ego boost...it just means men tend to like being friends with women they find attractive....I have plenty of relationships with friends of the oppsoite sex
Girl, please. Men don't want to be friends with women they find attractive. Men want to have lotsa sex with women they find attractive.

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My boyfriend and I ... are now awesome friends ...



Awesome? The scorpio Male is the ONLY awesome Anything in your life.


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He is pretty aware that out of the two of us, I am the popular one. He sees on social media every guy commenting on all my photos... he was pretty jealous.. He knew a lot of people wanted me....
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Answering commenters back is like you're having โ€œlittle talksโ€ with them -- you should know better. :-)

You are probably a nice lady, but you are insecure too. Ok, so maybe you admit that, but you are tricky with it -- with your-adoring-fans-on-social-media-Self. :-) Didn't you know this was feeding his insecurity?

But heโ€™s not done with you. There was a sting. He will love the text. But don't be so willing to just GIvE your affections away. The sting shows: Will he even respect or understand the intent of your humility or will it be seen with contempt. Don't send it.

He's Not ready -- and neither are you. I think my action would be to STICK TO MY GUNS of leaving the relationship. Zero tolerance for unfaithfulness. And for You to grow a bit too. Insecurity is one thing, breaking trust is totally different. He will come back to you. If you take him back, make the stakes clear. Remember, the dog bite you once, it's the dog's fault. The dog bite you twice, it's yours.
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I've thought a lot about this....thanks to everyone for the diferrent insight into the Scorpios here.

I think he's a pretty stubborn, proud and hard Scorpio in a lot of ways but also he's not ready to be in a relationship with anyone, so that's kind of the bottomline. You can't do enough to make someone want something if they have decided in their head it isn't what they want. I do think he self sabotaged because he was scared of being hurt, and thanks for all the insight into self protection and how deep that mechanism can run.

Every word out of his mouth is always the same negative stuff...."you will leave me eventually", "I can't let anyone past my barriers I need to protect myself", "I can't offer anyone a full relationship". If that is just where he is in his life, maybe his journey is to flit from casual to casual for a little while until he figures out for himself that some risks are worth taking.

I have let him know for now that I want to be friends. His response was cold. He actually ignored me. If he takes a few months and drops me a message, who knows what might happen. I think if that time comes I am definitely willing to work really hard to get through his barriers and earn his trust and show him that I am not going to hurt him, but he also has to NOT hurt me.

I won't date a guy who is talking to other girls
I won't date a guy who is going to disappear for weeks
I won't date someone whos behavior makes me cry and they refuse to stop

If none of that is okay for him to live by - then he doesn't deserve to be with me, because I am a good and loving person who really wanted to be with him, but I am not a doormat to wipe his feet on.

I am here, kind of hoping and waiting to fix or find a way to get through to him and get him to properly work on this, but you know he isn't on some forum somewhere trying the same thing. He has frozen me off and is probably with this other chick,

If he does come back to me, and he does want to be friends or anything at all...I swear, I will give him that list and i will work a little harder for sure to understand who he is and respect his Scorpio-ness. If he doesn't, then I guess I will find someone else and hopefully someone in a better place to give back more to a relationship.




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Listen to Pathfinder. She makes some excellent points.

Stand your ground firmly. Don't be charmed by him back into your life. If he comes back, hear him out and then tell him you have too much respect for yourself to ever see yourself in competition with other woman--child, please! Keep your boundaries firm, firm, firm.

Don't do that ask to be friends shit. That's weak.

If he brings up breaking up with him, throw his sleeping with another woman a day later right back in his face. Challenge every single one of his "excuses." Challenge them hard. Don't back down. And then retreat.

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I think you're right BrightLight.

I have to be 100% honest here Ellesque, and the sleeping with someone else is less important to me than it seems....of course...major blow...but I get why he did it.

She's chasing after him
I hurt him

I get it.

Not happy, but I get it.

My problem really is how he was behaving before that Ellesque that caused me to break up with him in the first place. I can paste a copy of our convo about it if you want to read. He says he was doing it and explains why.

I don't get what I was supposed to do.

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Yeah, I think you're really right BrightLight and he does need me to stand up to him a little and right now the only way I do that is by folloiwng Pathfinders advice and sticking to my guns. Offering friendship was weak, you're right.

I am a strong woman..really been through a lot in life. Not had a lot of long relationships but the ones I have experienced have been meaningful and precious to me and I have always had strong boundaries. I think in this situationn I actually lost respect for myself a little because I let him get away with murder.

Looking back, I should have walked away as soon as he was treating me wrong and he would have respected me more and it probably never would have come to such a dramatic and explosive ending.

I think (and you Scorpios clearly have this thing down) that this was just a person so magnetic, so addictive, so lovable, so confusing, so sexy, so attractive emotionally that he got power over me completely. I might have walked away but it was too late...he had been allowed to continue playing mind games, hot and cold and pulling a disappearing act on me for much too long.

If he's smart enough to get this, he should know there's no woman on earth who is going to be more loyal, more in love with him and more admiring of who he is - but I need to rspect myself and he needs to do that too.

I think I will hear from him again in a little while. He's icing me out right now, but my gut tells me he will be back eventually.
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If you truly opened up to him and he ignored you, you must've really hurt him.

Scorpios in general aren't that cold without reason - and I've read enough to know that you're not exactly an angel.
Maybe the reason is that he liked chasing me, didn't like me as much when he actually got me, and now wants me to go away because he likes this other girl?

I don't want to think the worst here - but there are players who are Scorpio, Leo, Aquarius and every sign there is and he might just be a selfish kind of person who got what he wanted from me.

One day he was desperate to do anything he could to make me feel better and a week later he was like ice - so maybe he just thought it was best for him to move on.
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So he was like that and said he'd wanted to sort things but also that he couldn't offer me a relationship so kind of contradictary there. I was angry and upset, but I guess I had just found out he'd been with someone else. When I contacted him two weeks later he didn't want to talk or be friends and was very cold and ignored my last text asking if he genuinely wanted to rebuild a friendship.

Been 3 days now and he didn't reply - so I guess he does not want to rebuild that friendship.

Maybe he decided he knew I had strong feelings for him and he was trying to not lead me on.

Maybe he decided he had feelings for this new girl and he doesn't have interest in me anymore.

Maybe he realised the damage was done and thought it was better to do as I said and forget we ever met.

Maybe he does really like me, and the fact that I only wanted friendship hurt him.

I will never know I guess! He's a very closed off guy. Either way would have been easier on me if he had the courage to write or explain why but that has alwasy been the problem.

Either way, when we were dating he was talkign to other girls and trying his hardest to keep his distance from me - so i didn't stand a chance to make that relationship work if only one of us wanted to.
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If you truly opened up to him and he ignored you, you must've really hurt him.

Scorpios in general aren't that cold without reason - and I've read enough to know that you're not exactly an angel.
You know I copied and pasted conversations with us so you could see what I mean by how contradictory and confusing he is, ut I felt it was too personal to share in the end.

I don't know Reincarnation. Of course I'm not an angel, but the guy was two weeks ago absolutely desperate to do anything to work it out and keep me in his life and then he froze me out and behaved the opposite way.

He said:

1. He really liked me and admited he sabotaged out relationship once he felt he might fall for me as a self protection mechanism
2. If I had met him at another time we would be together and he would have treated me right
3. He was really sorry and sad he lost me
4. He wanted to see me again, but at the same time didn't want to hurt me anymore than he already had
5. He wanted to see me again, but could not do that as "just friends" as he still had feelings
6. He wanted us to be friends over text and phone, for me to trust him again and for us to talk again and not to lose me
7. That he felt ashamed of his behavior.

I told him he'd hurt me too much and I wanted him to leave me alone and forget he ever met me (I know...no angel but I was VERY hurt and angry) and he said he didn't think he could forget me, that I was one of the most wonderful people he'd ever met and he would really miss me.

So I calmed down a bit and when I contacted him two weeks later he's iced me out. Unfollowed me on social media and when I texted and asked if he genuinely wanted to be friends to let me know- and three days passed with no reply to that question.

So there are various possibilities I guess.

1. He's seeing the other girl now and has no interest in me
2. He knows I have stonger feelings than he does and wants to not lead me on
3. He has decided it's best to forget we ever met

I'm not sure how I have hurt him, if I have, but if he cared about me as much as I do about him I think he would contact me.



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Just wanted to report back to everyone who was helping me and doing so great at it.

He has been back in touch with me. Saying it's hard for him to walk away. He is still a little icy but softened during conversation quite a lot and I know it was hard for him to call.

I am going to meet up with him and first of all take your advice and tell him how I feel about him, knowing at least then I have been honest and let him know. I'm also going to let him know my boundaries and see what happens from there.

I am still kind of insecure about it all, but going to at least try.
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Posted by Reincarnation
Scorpios are crazy people who are capable of doing crazy things. We also tend to be attracted to weird people who do crazy things - which is why some of us end up with water women.

You could do something crazy. Tell him you will delete all your social media - do anything, really - to show your devotion to him alone. It's extreme, but Scorps are extreme.

I would not recommend doing that, personally - since he was intimate with another woman. But that would undoubtedly get a strong, positive reaction from him.

Again, I wouldn't do it, but it's up to you.
Omg if a guy told me that. Id marry him.