Want vs Need (Page 2)

"GED"

Damn, I am slow. Well, you may not be educated, but you're sure as hell intelligent. Like I said, continue to check out your local library. They have all the books you're required to read in college.

This is a shitty time to be graduating from college; to find a job period.

why did you hide it, sb?

"This is a shitty time to be graduating from college; to find a job period."

yeah, i've heard and read about that. gives me a lot to look forward to!

I know a guy who did that. Dropped out of HS at 16. Got his GED. Got his pilots license and diving license. Made a shit load of money in real estate (he was still living with his parents and had no financial responsibilities)Is now graduating from college at 19. He's a sag.

It also depends alot on your background.

NYU wants $ 45 per year, last time I checked. Fuck that. It's an awesome school though. And like everyone who graduates from there becomes famous, lol.

College began as an institution for the rich. Then, it became open to everyone, and was actually affordable.

Today, it is a scam. Mark my word. sb's case is different because her degree actually counts for something. It's almost like a trade. People will always need a computer specialist. That field is here to stay.

""I couldn't find my college books in MY public library. they could only be found at University libraries. And they cost money. A lot of money.""

Strand had mine for like no more than $ 2.00 each. The textbooks I borrowed. You may not find the exact books in the library, but the subject matter is available. That's what I'm trying to say.

The internet is a lovely place.

^for research, haha, and that's if you can find reliable sources

Honestly, you pay for your professors (network) and the name of the school. You end up doing all the reading alone, learning on your own, and going to class to discuss. I can discuss among my friends, and I don't have to pay them.

"You end up doing all the reading alone, learning on your own, and going to class to discuss. I can discuss among my friends, and I don't have to pay them."

whoooooa. just had deja vu. i just said that like yesterday. crazy.

I dont think I could find my books either. BUT Im sure the information is out there. I dont think anyone would want to find my books willingly.

well, you can always subscribe to a journal if you want to be certain your source is reliable.

"Especially the socio books."

i knew there was a reason i liked you. lmao.

only joking, mspisces, you are lovely all around.

Yea, I had a couple of roommates who were in Stern. They were no joke. Those kids would stab eachother in the back like nobody's business. That's why they were never put into the same room. And they all looked the same-- like they needed a stick to be dislodged from their ass.

""...that even 30 years later, his college network and name still has relevance.""

I sure hope so. 🙂

"well, you can always subscribe to a journal if you want to be certain your source is reliable."

true, true.

lol @ sb's harlequin romance comment

I recall a quote American Beauty, from the real estate guy. He said, "In order to be successful, one must project an image of success."

I think the above is so true.

I know this attorney who speaks so matter-of-factly. Many times, he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. But, he speaks with such confidence. That's what matters most.

Like, this guy at my job does that too. Everyone goes to him for answers.

He'll be sitting there breaking down theories for them, and I'll be thinking to myself, "Woooow. This guy is totally making this shyt up as he goes along. But it sounds so good and flows so well!"

I say it all the time...Confidence is all you need.

I hate the professors who are only there for research. They do as much a dis-service to the students as they bring in money to the school.

haha...i do that too. in my speech class i do it a lot. i do the research but the fact is you can't know a topic fully from studying it for a week (or however long we're allotted before the presentation). so you have to speak well and project the illusion that you know the material. otherwise, no one will but it.

but = buy

"Yes! It totally seemed like they were just there to get paid and hold the position, but they were really just interested in what they were working on outside--their own publishing/research projects."

mmhmm. i've had a couple of those. but with the way it's all set up, what can you expect. sometimes professors need to pump out that stuff just to keep their position.

I have no college-guilt at all.
I valued my education always growing up and still do, its paid me royally.
It could be how I was raised and who raised me.

""sometimes professors need to pump out that stuff just to keep their position.""

Yep, that's how it works at my school. They're required to do annual research/publishing.

mine too.

But then again thats how your school makes its name that in later years we throw around as our alma maters.

""They're required to do annual research/publishing."

I think that killed science."

oh, you have a good point there.

"I think that killed science."

it's not dead yet!

but yes...it is definitely helping to kill it.

shaka, the ways things are done in the US rarely makes sense. 😛

and to be fair, not just the US, either.

you can't drink it.

you can drink it.

my critical thinking skills have improved drastically since coming to college. that's what i do. but i still have a long way to go to be where i want to be.

i'm pretty sure i should have been born in the netherlands.

but i don't want to become rich. that's NOT my goal..i'm investing in my brain. haha.

well there are pros and cons about any location, i don't like the money-obsessed culture here, i'm very incompatible with it so i think i should probably seek a divorce and cite irreconcilable differences. either that or try to change him and come on, we all know that a woman can't make a man change. 😢

night you 2

Critical thinking is my thing!

Im good at research and papers; if only I actually like doing those things. *sigh*
If I were to go into any of those majors it would be philosophy and theology.

that's my problem too...if i am interested in the subject matter and can actually focus on it (the former makes the latter much easier), i am good at critical thinking. but i usually do not enjoy it...at all.

philosophy, as a major! oh goodness! i took one philosophy class (intro) and i never did any of the work (still got an A though...no idea how) because the reading was sssssooooo tedious. i did enjoy playing with some of the ideas, but you have to get through so much muck to get to the meat. or, in my case, soy. 😛

i'm gonna go to bed too. i have to get up early, damn morning classes. night m, and anyone else who happens to be lurking. SHAKA. hehe. i kid.

"i took one philosophy class (intro) and i never did any of the work (still got an A though...no idea how) because the reading was sssssooooo tedious. i did enjoy playing with some of the ideas, but you have to get through so much muck to get to the meat. or, in my case, soy."

oh definitely. You know I like to get to the point, no BSin around. Thats the big issue. Alot of pretty words and thoughts to make a simple point. BUT it can be very interesting.

G'Night guys.

""I have no college-guilt at all.""

- Neither did I, when I was still in college. lol It's not until after you graduate that you're like, "This....is some BULLSHIT!" It's a pattern I've noticed among recent graduates.

""I valued my education always growing up and still do,...""

Same here. I am in no way attempting to devalue education. I'm just saying be smart about it, is all. I'm saying young ppl ought not let themselves be bamboozled into thinking that college = success. Because it doesn't. It does tend to equal *more* opportunities, but consider the costs. Success comes in many shapes and forms, alot of which do not require a college degree. I'm not suggesting it isn't beneficial, only that it isn't necessary.

A trade, however....you can never go wrong with a trade.

But, iirc, M is in business, so you don't count. Your major works for you.

Finance/Accounting
Computer Science

Those are similar to trades. Your services will always come in handy. Therefore, college works in your favor. No worries there.

Damn, I go pick someone up from work and everyone leaves.

The market for my trade is not doing so well at the moment. BUT yes I could get just about any other job with such a degree. Its more about getting in than anything else.

I understand what your saying; its about after graduation. Im not leaving unless I have a job 😛

I agree branh. But you can see it in college as well. If you join an organization, etc. Its the same human nature BS that you have to deal with as oppose to being able to get the job done. Group work can be another example for those not in RSO's.

College could never perpare you for politics in the workplace, and sometimes blatant short-sightedness that you deal with in management. Politics are always first priority in the workplace, the ability to do your job is always secondary for some reason.
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For a change, I fully agree with branh!

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There are a lot of things in computers that can't be learned by just books, studying, and test.
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Actually I agree again, for example fooling a computer can't be learnt in school. It needs special skill.