Why do people not understand us?

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by thisiscrap2 on Thursday, February 5, 2015 and has 47 replies.

Understanding Why Others Misinterpret You

People may not fully grasp your emotional needs due to differences in communication styles or empathy levels. Your sensitivity and desire for validation are natural, but others might not always recognize or respond appropriately. Recognizing these differences can help improve understanding and foster better connections.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

I mean people just don't get us even when they've known us a long time or when we've been clear about what's important to us.

I mean me for example, human connection and empathy validation is important to me.

Those that know me know it's important to me, and any slight/scorn in these areas of my life I take it personally.

People know this and yet...they still does shit that's disappointing.

Are we just supposed to not care and not be sensitive and emotional?

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

They dont' have to treat me anyway other than basic human kindness.

What I'm saying is, if someone shows they care...appreciate that.

It's human emotion 101.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by djbuck1

Posted by thisiscrap2
I mean people just don't get us even when they've known us a long time or when we've been clear about what's important to us.

I mean me for example, human connection and empathy validation is important to me.

Those that know me know it's important to me, and any slight/scorn in these areas of my life I take it personally.

People know this and yet...they still does shit that's disappointing.

Are we just supposed to not care and not be sensitive and emotional?

You need more Pisces friends.

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I had one in the past, she turned into a hard to please person that I kept having to walk on eggshells around.

She also became needy and clingy. So I ended that quickly.

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@The_eleventh_sign_11
16 Years5,000+ Posts

Posted by thisiscrap2
I mean people just don't get us even when they've known us a long time or when we've been clear about what's important to us.

I mean me for example, human connection and empathy validation is important to me.

Those that know me know it's important to me, and any slight/scorn in these areas of my life I take it personally.

People know this and yet...they still does shit that's disappointing.

Are we just supposed to not care and not be sensitive and emotional?

Sorry I accidentally posted a quote and no reply lol.

Ok for example human connection and empathy validation is what you need and then what? are you going to be happy with that? will you be sated? fuck no! lol because your a scorpio, my moons in scorpio and its a fucking curse, there will be nothing that I won't want to consume. Its as if the seven deadly sins are my moon sign and the seven virtues are my sun, its fucking putrid in here I tell you...

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Eleventh...I don't know what the heck you mean lol.

What's important for me I guess more than anything else is respect, validation/appreciation and kindness. I mean that should be human ettiquitte 101.

Someone is nice, you say thank you
Someone helps you out, you say thank you
Someone compliments you, you say thank you

How hard is that.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by e11e
because what is important to you is not important to others.

you aren't that special for yours to be more important than someone elses.

anyways...validation and appreciation are two separate things. Why the "/"?

Lack of education on my part is why i put the "?"

Yeah I know, I guess the reality of it is, people aren't naturally SUPER empathetic I guess.

Maybe I need to remind myself that most people only care about their own shit and everything else is a bonus.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

yeah i am familiar i had to change names cause dxpnet won't let me log in my usually name and I know its not me. I can't have forgotten my own password. This shitty site 😢

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

yeah I just gotta find a way to shut off the caring.

I think this time around will be the last time I do something nice for someone.

But if I get called selfish or uncaring in the future, all hell will break loose.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by Gemi9

Posted by thisiscrap2
They dont' have to treat me anyway other than basic human kindness.

What I'm saying is, if someone shows they care...appreciate that.

It's human emotion 101.

Maybe an example in order? Just to clarify.

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I think i said it somewhere earlier.

If you get complimented, say thank you.
Someone helps you, say thank you.

Etc. etc. Why do people gotta make it awkward.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by e11e
she has a libra moon. she really is that ticked off for the lack of thank yous/manners.

What I'm really pissed off is how people can be such unappreciative fucks.

Sorry I'm just really saddened right now and I use profanity when I'm fed up.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

maybe so maybe so.

All it's teaching me is to not give a fuck about anyone's shit anymore.

That's fine. I'll be a hardened individual. No loss of mine.

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@TrueScorp12
11 YearsScorpio

We can't be truly understood - we run too deep for others to get.
We care so much and bc of that we have huge expectations of others when we really shouldn't. This causes let down so often.
Also despite our deep levels of compassion we usually don't show that outwardly and can seem uncaring and standoffish and this makes it even harder for people to get us.
I believe more than half the time Scorps make there own issues just bc of the layers of depth within!

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by TrueScorp12
We can't be truly understood - we run too deep for others to get.
We care so much and bc of that we have huge expectations of others when we really shouldn't. This causes let down so often.
Also despite our deep levels of compassion we usually don't show that outwardly and can seem uncaring and standoffish and this makes it even harder for people to get us.
I believe more than half the time Scorps make there own issues just bc of the layers of depth within!

Then how do we handle people not getting us. To have lower expectations?

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@TrueScorp12
11 YearsScorpio

Posted by thisiscrap2

Posted by TrueScorp12
We can't be truly understood - we run too deep for others to get.
We care so much and bc of that we have huge expectations of others when we really shouldn't. This causes let down so often.
Also despite our deep levels of compassion we usually don't show that outwardly and can seem uncaring and standoffish and this makes it even harder for people to get us.
I believe more than half the time Scorps make there own issues just bc of the layers of depth within!

Then how do we handle people not getting us. To have lower expectations?

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At some point you just realize that some people will never get you. Lower expectations can help but that really sucks! However with some people it is kinda necessary. I tend to pull back from people if I've been let down - seclude myself to refocus on me. We Scorps tend to give too much of ourselves and expect the same back but that rarely happens. Give more of yourself to YOU!

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

that's what happens exactly.

Giving too much of myself too deeply and people don't get it.

But its hard for me to NOT care and refocus on me.

I wouldn't even know what that looks like because I don't think I've ever learned how.

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@TrueScorp12
11 YearsScorpio

Posted by thisiscrap2
that's what happens exactly.

Giving too much of myself too deeply and people don't get it.

But its hard for me to NOT care and refocus on me.

I wouldn't even know what that looks like because I don't think I've ever learned how.

I'm not saying don't care - that's hard. Maybe refocus your care onto yourself. It takes practice and patience but can be done. It is so hard bc we have so much to give and truly want to give it to others but giving yourself the love and care first betters you and the people you do care for later.
It isn't easy but worth the struggle. Helps to see things clearly as well.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by Gemi9

Posted by thisiscrap2
that's what happens exactly.

Giving too much of myself too deeply and people don't get it.

But its hard for me to NOT care and refocus on me.

I wouldn't even know what that looks like because I don't think I've ever learned how.

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I've given examples THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TIMES. Read the entire thread.

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@VanillaShake
11 Years

You sound like me from years and years ago. I finally learned to love myself for who I am. I can get butt hurt from time to time But that doesn't last long. If you don't like how u are treated by that person don't spend time with them. We have a great gift of compassion and love but spend it on those that need it. Who cares what others think about u just be a good person and all is well. Take up some hobbies or volunteer. Its not about hardening yourself out where to invest ur love. If They don't appreciate it then they are not worthy of it. And u move on.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by VanillaShake
You sound like me from years and years ago. I finally learned to love myself for who I am. I can get butt hurt from time to time But that doesn't last long. If you don't like how u are treated by that person don't spend time with them. We have a great gift of compassion and love but spend it on those that need it. Who cares what others think about u just be a good person and all is well. Take up some hobbies or volunteer. Its not about hardening yourself out where to invest ur love. If They don't appreciate it then they are not worthy of it. And u move on.

Well i care about everyone. I can't just shut it off. I like seeing people happy and being appreciated so I show appreciation.

It's not in my biology to NOT do that stuff.

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@TrueScorp12
11 YearsScorpio

Posted by thisiscrap2
@TrueScorp what do you mean by giving myself love and care. Give examples of what you mean.

I mean i pursue my hobbies if that's what your referencing.

I mean think of yourself first. Hobbies are good but more than that I mean before you think of doing something for someone else think about you. Seems selfish but to please others you need to please yourself first. It is so hard! I am still learning and every once in awhile someone comes along that makes me forget myself. I am always needing to refocus/regroup.
If someone doesn't appreciate what you do for them stop doing it or if close relationship speak up.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

The ironic thing I get into these situations where I stop doing it, then some how some way I get accused of being being uncaring, its happened before.

I'm honestly done. I mean i pursue my hobbies and interests, I put myself first honestly and I don't drop everything for everyone. I'm not a pushover. But once in a while, when there's a special occasion like someone finished grad school I'll do something nice.

But it's really F U C K E D UP when they don't acknowledge it.

That is really c r a p p y.

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11 Years

Posted by FrostAndBite
But if you really enjoy loving and caring for others for itself, then why would you be upset when there is no thanks to follow? Wouldn't that be more along the lines of you enjoy the praise and thanks of others rather than caring for them?

I mean I get it, I love appreciation and validation myself. But it cannot always be the outcome I expect, as then I'm chaining my interactions with the other person.

A lot of old fashioned manners have died out these days. Which tbh, I think I like better in some ways. People express with more sincerity, less pomp.

People show appreciation in subtle ways. A smile, small relief, that look of joy on their face for a split second. They might not be reply with the same manners you would, but that doesn't necessarily mean they lack appreciation.

Because the unappreciators seem to be like this whenever its coming from me. I'm not doing anything overly creepy. Geezus. But whatever I give up.

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@VanillaShake
11 Years

We are a powerhouse sign I don't get why you are so upset— Or are u in self stinging mode? Venting can help get it head back but I think I'm confused

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by VanillaShake
We are a powerhouse sign I don't get why you are so upset— Or are u in self stinging mode? Venting can help get it head back but I think I'm confused

I'm in a self pity mode becuase i'm fed up.

Dude its like I am nice and caring. Not overly caring in a creepy way, but not in a "whatever" way either. Normal human caring and I do nice things when they matter and when its appropriate.

Do those receivers care? No.

That is why I'm upset. I'm tired of people not giving a shit! The world is a bad place in itself, and when people stop appreciating goodness in others...then people stop caring...the world will turn into a shit hole if we stop being human.

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Posted by thisiscrap2

Posted by VanillaShake
We are a powerhouse sign I don't get why you are so upset— Or are u in self stinging mode? Venting can help get it head back but I think I'm confused

I'm in a self pity mode becuase i'm fed up.

Dude its like I am nice and caring. Not overly caring in a creepy way, but not in a "whatever" way either. Normal human caring and I do nice things when they matter and when its appropriate.

Do those receivers care? No.

That is why I'm upset. I'm tired of people not giving a shit! The world is a bad place in itself, and when people stop appreciating goodness in others...then people stop caring...the world will turn into a shit hole if we stop being human.

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Did you text your ex-boyfriend to congratulate him because it

was a special occasion, and he never responded?

Not even a Thank You?

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11 YearsCancer

its funny, because i kinda feel like i know scorps even more than they know themselves. at least that is whats happening with me and my scorp friends. but i love them all with all their shit...

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by Nicole99
its funny, because i kinda feel like i know scorps even more than they know themselves. at least that is whats happening with me and my scorp friends. but i love them all with all their shit...

That's great you have a fantastic friendship.

Honestly it doesn't take much to make us happy.

- Be Honest
- Show Appreciation
- Be Supportive

I mean seriously. That isn't even tough.

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Posted by thisiscrap2

What's important for me I guess more than anything else is respect, validation....

Someone is nice because that is how one demonstrates kindness.
Someone helps you out because it's the right thing to do.
Someone compliments you, accept the compliment with grace.

How hard is that.

Fixed it for you.

Sounds like you're looking for brownie point and validation. What you're talking about has nothing do with "human connection" and "empathy". If that were true, you wouldn't be focused on what you can get out of your interactions with others, especially the lack of validation or respect. You would also be willing to accept people on their own terms. As long as someone is not going out of their way to disrespect or hurt you, how does the lack of a "thank you" becasue you've bless them with your time and attention (let's be real that is what this about) offensive? Meh.

Perhaps I just one of those people that don't understand "us".

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Posted by FrostAndBite
...if you really enjoy loving and caring for others for itself, then why would you be upset when there is no thanks to follow? Wouldn't that be more along the lines of you enjoy the praise and thanks of others rather than caring for them?

I mean I get it, I love appreciation and validation myself. But it cannot always be the outcome I expect, as then I'm chaining my interactions with the other person.

People show appreciation in subtle ways. A smile, small relief, that look of joy on their face for a split second. They might not be reply with the same manners you would, but that doesn't necessarily mean they lack appreciation.

This.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by thisiscrap2

What's important for me I guess more than anything else is respect, validation....

Someone is nice because that is how one demonstrates kindness.
Someone helps you out because it's the right thing to do.
Someone compliments you, accept the compliment with grace.

How hard is that.

Fixed it for you.

Sounds like you're looking for brownie point and validation. What you're talking about has nothing do with "human connection" and "empathy". If that were true, you wouldn't be focused on what you can get out of your interactions with others, especially the lack of validation or respect. You would also be willing to accept people on their own terms. As long as someone is not going out of their way to disrespect or hurt you, how does the lack of a "thank you" becasue you've bless them with your time and attention (let's be real that is what this about) offensive? Meh.

Perhaps I just one of those people that don't understand "us".

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Valid points. I appreciate them. I'm not really looking for "brownie points." but damn, it's frustrating when I do something nice and people can't even say thanks.

Thanks is ONE syllable word. Gosh that would be enough.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

it's not even thanks verbally...it could be the smile, the blushing the wink...something to indicate they get it.

They get IT.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Etiquette isn't a privilege and people should stop seeing it as one.

But then again I can't force people to not be douchebags

So I give up like I said. I'm not being nice and kind anymore.

Besides I solved the problem anyway, I ripped the douchebags new assholes today.

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@thisiscrap2
11 Years

Posted by FrostAndBite
OP, leave this thread, come back in 3 months or hell 3 days, and you'll see what EVERY other Scorpio who has commented so far can see. You're taking something most likely minor and over personalizing it.

Its okay. We all do it. We know, because we understand.

^Also my cult slogan.

LOL i realized that in the middle of the night.

No one gets our over involvement but us 😢

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16 Years1,000+ PostsScorpio

Posted by Gemi9

Posted by TrueScorp12
We can't be truly understood - we run too deep for others to get.
We care so much and bc of that we have huge expectations of others when we really shouldn't. This causes let down so often.
Also despite our deep levels of compassion we usually don't show that outwardly and can seem uncaring and standoffish and this makes it even harder for people to get us.
I believe more than half the time Scorps make there own issues just bc of the layers of depth within!

However you have to understand that 90% of the people on Earth give no damn about astrology
and had never heard of Scorpio's 'issues'? And even though some have heard - they are still
have no idea whether you are a Scorpio or whoever else. So you guys need to get over yourselves.

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Funny YOU say that... You can't get over a scorpio and you're married to someone else. Lol

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@Eris
16 Years1,000+ PostsScorpio

You are really hard to make sense out of... Not sure what is going on with the way you put your words together, but it sure is confusing. Makes it hard for me to even give you a proper reply.

I found it funny you told scorpios to get over themselves/ourselves when you are all hung up on one. That is all.

As for you saying your thread has been beaten like a dead horse... How come it's back at the top again? Was it you bringing it back to the top? Hmm? Probably...