Work drama

Posted by oldskoolflavor
I was thinking that since OBAMA got elected, people would..

Posted by ellessque
GAWD I butchered that. let me try again....

scorpdiva, you know your self worth. you have to be one of the most confident scorp women that i've seen on this board.

just keep leading by example and they can do nothing but eventually follow or remain lost.

Posted by ImpressMe

Posted by scorpdiva
@impress me, you would think not I mean it's like 2011 and but she always says about how if she dates a black men or had a mixed baby her grandfather would be upset so it's defintely in her upbringing. We have hung out at the mall together and I wouldn't say she is racist I guess she doesn't know what is correct to say and what is not, we are pretty lax at our office and we talk about everything so she probably thought I would be cool but not when you are saying I only got hired for one reason. She also said it like the hiring lady said it straigh from her mouth so the hiring lady who I think is an aqua approach me almost in tears like I didn't say that, and I am not that type of person. So I just let them know I am honestly fine........

Trust me, she meant what she said. I don't care if she apologized and the boss apologized. The fact that she even had the thought is enough in my head. Thank god you are a lovely person because I feel like that is total disrespect, and a slap in your face. That means she has no respect for you, and you're not her cool black co-worker/friend.

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Posted by ellessque
well. hold on.

i deal with this crap all the time from girls just like her....and believe me, just because i'm white, they think they can be a whole helluva lot less candid then your co-worker friend was.

i believe, the people who are vocal are the ones "looking" for knowledge. it's the fake ass idiots that talk behind your back or remain silent that you have to look out for. those sneaky bastards try to undermind you or set you up to try to fail. i've seen that too and THOSE are the people I keep an eye on. they can destroy entire cities with their nonsense.

so, if she's shared personal opinions with you and brought up her family, i believe she's wanting to learn how to NOT be like her family. she's ignorant. that is all. you now that. now it's up to you.

Posted by scorpdiva
... But what made me more mad is how she was like diversity whatever, I don't care so when she said it the first thing I said was you can keep that to your god dam self I am not in the mood this morning. And I guess as her being an cappy she turn away like whatever but then she was all in my azz after she said it, she knew she was wrong. Like everyone was saying around the office, after you have tried to help her so much, she is kinda akward anyway so I was helping her join a dating site so she can start going out and I was only trying to get her out to have more fun.....

Posted by P-Angel
I would have to conclude that the reason why you snapped and brought this all to the attention of everyone to make a big deal out of it is because they were considering you among the majority and not the diverse.

Because there would be no reason for you to create this drama, and then act like you don't want it.

Posted by P-Angel
Once, in the mid 90's, I was carpooling for a while with a black man I worked with, in which he was a very mature and nice man.

I asked him one day .... "Do you get discriminated against?"

His answer .... "No"

Me: wow, cause I thought, um, people .....

Him: If you look for something to be there, you'll find it, Angie. I'm jsut a person and this is how I am treated.



He then went on to tell me about how a lot of black people look to be treated differently, they watch for it .... Brahn used to make whole threads about this.

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Posted by scorpdiva
@impress me, you would think not I mean it's like 2011 and but she always says about how if she dates a black men or had a mixed baby her grandfather would be upset so it's defintely in her upbringing. We have hung out at the mall together and I wouldn't say she is racist I guess she doesn't know what is correct to say and what is not, we are pretty lax at our office and we talk about everything so she probably thought I would be cool but not when you are saying I only got hired for one reason. She also said it like the hiring lady said it straigh from her mouth so the hiring lady who I think is an aqua approach me almost in tears like I didn't say that, and I am not that type of person. So I just let them know I am honestly fine........

Trust me, she meant what she said. I don't care if she apologized and the boss apologized. The fact that she even had the thought is enough in my head. Thank god you are a lovely person because I feel like that is total disrespect, and a slap in your face. That means she has no respect for you, and you're not her cool black co-worker/friend.

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Posted by scorpdiva

Posted by P-Angel
I would have to conclude that the reason why you snapped and brought this all to the attention of everyone to make a big deal out of it is because they were considering you among the majority and not the diverse.

Because there would be no reason for you to create this drama, and then act like you don't want it.

I didn't create any drama we all were talking and the cappy said her comment I said mine and it was over...... The next thing the scorp sent me an email apologizing and then she in the office with the manager and she told her what happen.

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Posted by scorpdiva

@ P angel- I did over react but so, She said something stupid and so did I but I didn't want her to get in trouble, the other scorp took it upon herself to take action and she witness the whole thing and that it, IT IS WHAT IT IS. It's over we are cool now and everything is basically back to normal I was just expressing my thoughts on here and thanks for your opinion.

Posted by scorpdiva

.... but still it's the principle and when she said it, it was early morning and I wasn't in the mood.

Posted by TheLadySagittarius
"Now - if you don't do that - may "diverse" people come and make your
office life hell and cause your two best friends to quit
... and be replaced by 19 year old Sagittarius women."

@Scorpiopics: WTH? What does a 19 year old Sagittarius woman have to do with it?

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Posted by scorpdiva

@ P angel- I did over react but so, She said something stupid and so did I but I didn't want her to get in trouble, the other scorp took it upon herself to take action and she witness the whole thing and that it, IT IS WHAT IT IS. It's over we are cool now and everything is basically back to normal I was just expressing my thoughts on here and thanks for your opinion.

So?

No, it's not back to normal .. it will never be normal .. now you have all the people walking on eggshells around you because they will be in fear of you screaming discrimination.

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Posted by scorpdiva

.... but still it's the principle and when she said it, it was early morning and I wasn't in the mood.

and that is the very point that was made about women having authority and control ... is the very reason why we should never allow a woman to be president of this country


Just because you were having a "mood" doesn't give you a right to be racist.

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Posted by DMV
how do u consider her to be a racist?

Posted by scorpiopics
See ... if you think that the NEW INITIATIVE for racial diversity in your workplace
will result in you having more "SISTAS" to clique with - you are sorrily deluded.

They've already GOT a black woman ( you )

They will be looking for people they can PAY LESS and who are
ROTB (RIGHT OFF THE BOAT) and you will all struggle after their hire
and will need to do more work to take up the slack.

WERE YOU hired FOR racial diversity?
50/50 chance it was a FACTOR in your hire IF you were among the last 2 hired.
If you were not among the last few hired - it probably wasn't a factor.

But if it was - BE SELF-AWARE so that you understand why people may be
unhappy about new hires of "visible minorities".

Eg.
You have your WHITE friend apply for a job there.
She is far better qualified than the MARTIAN they hire - who doesn't speak
a lot of English and results in you needing to do some of HIS work in addition to
your own load.

How do you feel about race diversity BY INTENTION then?

Posted by ellessque
you read it wrong.

scorpdiva didn't say anything.

she watched it all unfold around her.

scorpdiva CLEARLY stated that she "snapped on her" as soon as the comment was made.
( In her situation, I would have too - but in RETROSPECT would have understood it.


of course she said something afterwards...anyone would have. they would have been expected to.

Posted by DMV

Posted by scorpiopics
See ... if you think that the NEW INITIATIVE for racial diversity in your workplace
will result in you having more "SISTAS" to clique with - you are sorrily deluded.

They've already GOT a black woman ( you )

They will be looking for people they can PAY LESS and who are
ROTB (RIGHT OFF THE BOAT) and you will all struggle after their hire
and will need to do more work to take up the slack.

WERE YOU hired FOR racial diversity?
50/50 chance it was a FACTOR in your hire IF you were among the last 2 hired.
If you were not among the last few hired - it probably wasn't a factor.

But if it was - BE SELF-AWARE so that you understand why people may be
unhappy about new hires of "visible minorities".

Eg.
You have your WHITE friend apply for a job there.
She is far better qualified than the MARTIAN they hire - who doesn't speak
a lot of English and results in you needing to do some of HIS work in addition to
your own load.

How do you feel about race diversity BY INTENTION then?

wow, tell us how your really feel about people just off the boat.

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Posted by ellessque
people who think they understand but really don't understand will never really understand. *sigh*

Posted by ellessque
let's think about this....

let's think about how much social security is being collected from the government from undocumented workers and they will never have to pay a dime of their retirement, disability, medicare. who do you think funds it? really?

let's think about all the taxes collected from the paychecks of undocumented workers and how much the government will never have to give out via a refund check.

undocumented doesn't mean no social security number. an illegal immigrant can get a social security number courtesy of our government. if they aren't that savvy they can use someone elses.

not all of the 10 million illegal immigrants are working under the table at some back alley restaurant. there are professionals and middle class jobs as well. of which, they are fully experienced to fulfill. it is not our fault our public school system is for shit and we all have ever learned to only speak one language, which by the way has been twisted to such a degree you can hardly recognize it as english anymore.

so, lets do some numbers.

10 million workers probably contribute $ 50 a week out their paycheck for the same taxes you and i do...and that is being liberal and an easy number for the sake of math (i grew up in the american public school system).

so, that is $ 500 million a week collected from illegal immigrants. that is more taxes than the government collects from their own citizens.

so, let's make our people hate those people so nobody really pays attention to what is going on.

go pick on jose because it makes you feel better or justified somehow.

you are a sheep. your mother should have named you "oblivious"

sorry for hijacking the thread, scorpdiva.


NO problem, very well said.......

Posted by ellessque
you read it wrong.

scorpdiva didn't say anything.

she watched it all unfold around her.

of course she said something afterwards...anyone would have. they would have been expected to.

Posted by scorpdiva

... so needless to say I kinda got upset and snapp on her and then she shut up but it was too late and everyone heard so then the drama starts.

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Posted by scorpdiva

... she is a zero I guess since she doesn't make decision or control my future but still it's the principle and when she said it, it was early morning and I wasn't in the mood. I have a sagg rising and mer and mars in Sagg so I have foot in the mouth syndrome bad and I just can't hold my tongue.

Posted by ellessque

i worked as an immigration liason for several years. the statement you are making as them not usually able to pay taxes is a myth. 100% myth. their checks look like our checks.


another myth is they can apply for food stamps and welfare. they cannot.
well when they are ILLEGAL, I'd expect they CAN'T - but then they change that

another myth is they are taking our jobs. they are not.
Business 101 - EnoughSupply = Price Decrease due Buyer's Market;
Enough workers = Crap wages for all.
If illegal - most can't work a LEGIT job ( where INCOME taxes are paid )
but if legal - you bet your ass that imigrants employed ARE INDEED filling a job
that may otherwise have gone to a citizen ( unless the imigrant DOES that job
in another county - duh )


i've worked with 1000's of illegal immigrants. i've yet to meet ONE drug dealer.
Most people don't broadcast to their immigration liason that they engage in terrorist acts either though, eh?
You're just not seeing it. But I must ask:

Did any of those illegals see a doctor for free?
Did any of them later BECOME landed immigrants/citizens with benefits?
( If not, I'd say you're not very good at your job - but of course you made a living from these folks - so I can see how you are like a sealer who wants the seal hunt to continue, or someone in China who finds it ethical to sell a cat as food - I don't think either is a real problem - just not used to it.


however, i know several americans that have done it to "get by" or at least "get" that 52" flat screen tv.



you, my friend, need to educate yourself. REALLY educate yourself. volunteer and spend time with people who are different from you, pick up another language. TAKE OFF THE FUCKING BLINDERS.

YOU maybe need to be an independent business person and not an "employee" ( certainly not a govt appointed employee ) before you are QUALIFIED to state an opinion about whether or not immigration is a good thing. A cop, too, maybe.

hate ruins the soul. you are a scorpio and i'm ashamed that you don't know that.


Hate?
There was nothing hateful about my post.
I did not say "I hate" lions, tigers, elephants, mice or even cockroaches.
I just don't want them in my neighborhood
BECAUSE ...

They cost my govt money to administer and DO NOT put back in
and THAT costs ME money.

That is why they are ILLEGAL

Posted by P-Angel
Why should I care if you think I'm wrong?

What?

Because your lovers are black .......