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Seems that Elle is racist also .... she cannot even hear a truth without putting her fingers in her ears and going la-la-la-la-la


Just because you sleep with black men, doesn't give you a right to speak for my white ass


This black lady was wrong, full stop .... by her own admission she said that she is friends with this Cappy and has let it get swept under the carpet.

If a black really was discriminated against ... REALLY ... they wouldn't go out for drinks with the fucking cracker .. you dumb fucking ass.



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Posted by scorpiopics
Posted by P-Angel
Why should I care if you think I'm wrong?

What?

Because your lovers are black .......






Ohhhhhhhhhhhh.... ( ScorpioPics's mouth forms a perfect circle "O" saying that )

It all makes sense now.

Thank-you, P-Angel



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Yes, that is why Elle is being discriminative .... because she fucks black men so she is going to be biased based on her lovers ... rather than be unbiased and think in terms of people being the same.
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@Lovebucket exactly that is when the drama started when everyone started reassuring me, I don't need that I also have a thick skin but I have a mouth and I will speak my opinion regardless of what drama may start. Just like she spoke the truth maybe I spoke the truth of how I felt at that moment so there you have it, I don't mind being the token black person if you want to call it that I always get the job it hasn't been one interview I have been on that I didn't get the job so I am cool believe me. I still go with it's the principle and just a general respect for people regardless of race for instance if I work in an all black office and a non-white person was hired why would I say that to them that yeah you were hired for this or that reason like you said they probably already know that so what make it so obvious, every one has their own opinions and some should be kept to yourself espically if the other person may feel disrespected so once again it's the PRINCIPLE and the issue of RESPECT. Do you all need these words define for you?
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Posted by scorpdiva


my skills speak for themselves......



EXACTLY.

I assume that you were born & raised in your country
and are a 3rd or 4th or 5th generation ( or more ) American,Brit or Canadian
and so you have a handle on the cultural norms ( see "Asians in the Library" on YouTube )
and know and speak the PREDOMINANT LOCAL LANGUAGE as well as the average person in
your area ( complete with local accents lol )and are TOTALLY FUNCTIONAL in society.

If this is true, you got everything you have on your own personal merit
REGARDLESS of your racial attributes.

Until people began to speak about diversity, this was never CHALLENGED.

Can you see how THE VERY MEETING about diversity is A THREAT TO YOU

See ... planned diversity means that on your resume
your hire a "known diverse" employer MAY BE passed off
as a "token hire". That is very, very bad for you.

Banks though hire Harvard grads ( same bunch who mismarketed GM into the ground )
who tell them that "people" want to see a Chinese immigrant who can't speak or
HEAR English very well working as a teller. ( Intelligence aside - because there
are also some real dingbats who are as white as snow at my bank. I don't care
if someone's skin is BLUE as long as they process people quickly and get it right
and THAT ( eg. good fit for job ) is the only kind of attribute that should matter. )










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The original post was very explanatory and scorpdiva told a very informative story.

From what I gathered she showed us a very civil way everything got handled. I am glad it all got worked out.

As for those who are blaming scorpdiva for any wrongdoing, consider the fact she didn't open the discussion, some coworker opened up with a comment about diversity.

As for those who believe the world has evil people who want to reject white people from positions because they are white, ughhhh that doesn't happen. You may think the world is out to get all white people in America, but that is a message broadcast on the radio and now by television political commentators that are trying to scare up some division.

If you want answers as to why America and several city and state governments have "diversity" programs, try researching why they were implemented in the first place, and why race is discussed in politics. Don't just stop at the story of one white man who didn't get a job.

As far as politically correct, that is a term used to divide people between those who try to come up with solutions, and those who want people to be angry and stop any action to fix issues in America.

Stop thinking a white man is superior at work! Nobody is asking you to think they are inferior, people are trying to say that a whole world is out there that is just as good at all the jobs out there. The world isn't fair, but adding to the problem by saying you hate women or hate people of color because you heard of a story of a white person complaining about how unfair their situation is, is only saying you care for problems that affect white people and that you don't want to consider that this world is about all of us in this world, not just who you consider at the current time.

By the way, for the longest time and I know this as a man, that when there are buddy buddy type guys who have the hiring power, they choose people that fit their buddy system and hire friends who may not know how to do the job, or reject candidates that would do the job well, but are too gay-seeming, or are a woman, or who might not like hearing racist jokes at work etc. These things all must change for the good of all of us. Fight for everyone's right and you will be amazed at how you get better results rather than feeding into the divisive hysteria that only each kind of person must fight alone.
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I am confused and maybe I don't understand the grammar used in scorpiopics to know what they believe.

You are linking to racist and ignorant people, and I am not sure if you agree with their wrong statements or using them as examples of what is wrong.

Either way, you cannot live in a bubble and read and hear only information that comes from a broadcaster giving you incorrect information. And if you believe in all information you have selected to read, then you aren't doing yourself service of any kind. A report by any commentator or news source, can paint a total picture of panic and quote something that isn't true and still call it "news", you can't consider it fact because it was spoken on tv or radio. In fact you should be wary of this, because that is how people get misinformed.

Immigrants aren't taking over America. They can't steal jobs. Jobs come from corporations and those corporations have been closing down plants in all of america for decades, and those same corporations are making jobs in other countries. A majority of the products we buy are made in other countries and we are buying away products that could be made by you here in america. These corporations if you look closely are paying the executives higher earnings and reducing the wages of their workers or even firing them so they don't have to pay them what they promised.

Tax dollars and money you are concerned about in America is statistically going to the small percent who are rich and control media, politics and decisions over how we do business in america. Those same people pay LESS taxes, and discriminate on what to do with their money that you would be amazed at how that problem is worse than anything you can think of.

I think you should be upset at LOCAL BUSINESSMEN or HUGE LABOR TEMP AGENCIES that set the wages so low at or below minimum wage and hire a lot of illegal or recent immigrants because they know they can convince them to do the work for such a low amount.

I think you should be upset that nobody is worried about what you see as unfair to you but instead ask you to be upset about random stories they spread on tv and radio that don't involve you, or involve one random guy or gal in another state, making you anxious about something so you get more confused and outraged and decide to not vote or to vote on something that further breaks the system.

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Yes I agree about reactions.

Scorpdiva I know we may disagree because we are from different signs about how to handle situations, but I strongly believe you handled yourself perfectly and what suited your good nature. I definitely agree with ARIES7733 that I would have reacted differently and probably what wouldn't be good for you. I admire how you handled the situation and believe I learned a lot about what I would do in the future from your post.

I have been in tough situations at work and it seems these things continue to happen, I hope in the future I think rationally and respectfully about myself and others as you have, and I say if you reacted in anyway to this situation I would still automatically side with you because anyone who drums up bad work environments with their loose mouth or anything that isn't production I would trust you reacted to an disturbing situation and I couldn't fault you for that without first going the source of the issue.
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I wouldn't have snapped on her, but I would have corrected the mess out of her young behind. To say they ONLY hired you to add diversity is very insulting, and she needed to be put in her place regardless of her position with the company. She stated her OPINION not a fact, which should have been brought to her attention, and makes me wonder what's the reason they hired her?!
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Posted by Skylark
What the hell happened here? Clueless or not, the Cap was wrong for saying that. I would have been pissed too. Scorpdiva handled it very well I thought. She isn't holding any grudges which shows she is better than all that racist shit. Things always seem to get all twisted and interpreted wrong when it comes to race. Everything is fine now it seems. No hard feelings from the Cap or Scorpdiva. Why does this kind of thing always have to get blown way out of proportion?



Well - because Britney Spears, Madonna, Paris Hilton, and whoever else have not done anything interesting to gossip about.

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Posted by ellessque
"I just don't want them in my neighborhood"

hey scorpiopics, the klu kux klan-circa 1958 called, they want their hood back.



hey elle, the hood called, they want you to stop taking their manfolk. lol

But seriously - Dude -
YOU started talking about "brown" - not me.
YOU assumed that when I talk about "a boat" it is full of Negroids ( actual scientific term )

What MY rant was about was that "diversity trining" for the sake of diversity is the most harmful modern prejudice.

It means:

A boss can't send out an X-mas card to it's 99% Christian employee base
because he might offend or exclude THE Muslim or Buddhist ...even if the boss is Jewish.

BEING straight, gay, bisexual, transexual, TRYsexual or that other thing ..uh ...PANsexual
( which "really" should not be a big factor where you are being paid to be there to WORK
except in the NAVY where you and others are kinda captive )

It means they can't hold an annual family field day with "races" as it may offend staff
who have physical disabilities ( I mean SERIOUSLY - they won't be offended or embarrassed
UNTIL someone makes such UNREASONABLE considerations for them - they have an impairment
of their body, not their rational thinking! )

If we are TRAINED about diversity and "how to handle it"
then everyone is trained to think SOMETHING is unfair or biased against them.

FUCK IT ALL, I'm sick of all of it.
You get hired based on compatibility - you REMAIN based on compatibility- that's IT.

When you have diversity "training" it tells you what of yourself to RECIND/give up
for the sake of someone else, and usually the MINORITY ( and note that this does
not read RACIAL minority nor "blacks" - JEEZE. )




















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Posted by ellessque
the funny thing is, the two of you could not seperate my opinion from my relationships. what does....who i sleep with, been married to or any association whatsoever have anything to do with this topic?





It seems it may have " a lot " to do with the topic
if more than one of your former companions was not
of the same genetic/racial group/subspecies as you.

I had no conscious idea that this may have been the case
until P-Angle mentioned it. It means that you have a
bias in the matter. ( And bias does not mean something
negative, necessarily - but does make you likely to
"champion" a certain side of the cause. )

Me - I don't really care if any of your lovers were black.
But if many or most have - and things have not worked
... what advice would you give me if you were me and I was you?

( of course, I wouldn't LISTEN to the advice right away , but...
you should tell me anyway. Of course, only if there is a
TREND with my past relationships. 2 or more would qualify it. )
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Well of course it's going great .... do you honestly think they are going to be so stupid that they let you know that they have to watch for the eggshells you threw on the floor.

If they let you know they have to be careful of this ... then it's the very reason for you to cry discrimination.

You are going to be treated so well now that you might even begin to think you're a superstar there .... but, it's an act.
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Wrap this around your head, instead of being insulted .. I'm trying to tell you something.


When this whole thing began and you thought it was going to be someone else they would hire to meet this quota (before the girl blirted out the scene you two could go laugh over later) ... when you thought it to be someone else, didn't bother you at all that another person would be regarded as if they are inferiour ... because it was that other person and not you ... so, who cares if they are the diversity quota.

You didn't mind at all, did you?

Now, it gets to be you .... because you made a stink about it ... so now you have the honor.


Bet you mind now, don't you?


Think about that .... if you all did hire a person who was only there for diversity, then don't you think this person will be treated differently? Because they are different?

And YOU would participate in this other treatment of another human being?


Yes you would if wanted to keep your job.


Welcome to our world !!!
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Everyone would have to walk around on eggshells with this other person there ..... now they don't have to.


Now it's you .. it wasn't .... but, you wanted it to be you therefore you took it personally to mean you .... now it does.



NOW that you did that .... you are being discriminated against .... because NOW they HAVE to walk on eggshells around you because they know if they don't YOU will make a case out of it.


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Posted by P-Angel
Everyone would have to walk around on eggshells with this other person there ..... now they don't have to.


Now it's you .. it wasn't .... but, you wanted it to be you therefore you took it personally to mean you .... now it does.



NOW that you did that .... you are being discriminated against .... because NOW they HAVE to walk on eggshells around you because they know if they don't YOU will make a case out of it.


She says its cool and you keep milking a dry cow. People argue and have differences all the time...that dont mean they "loss" love for one another.
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The cow isn't dry so long as there are people out there who look out for themselves, while pretending it's a cause.


The only reason she snapped is because she thought she was the one who was the diversity quota .. and that's just not right .. just because she's black doesn't mean she's a quota, damn ya.


But, then no conviction whatsoever that there actually IS A PERSON who will hired to fill this quota.


So, it's not about the black cause at all .. she couldn't give a rats ass about her whole bitch because if she did, she'd still be on the rampage proclaiming this shit isnt' right.


She's not ... she doesn't mind at all that one of her fellow miniorities is being thrown under the bus ... just so long as it isn't her.


That's not a dry cow ...
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Posted by P-Angel
The cow isn't dry so long as there are people out there who look out for themselves, while pretending it's a cause.


The only reason she snapped is because she thought she was the one who was the diversity quota .. and that's just not right .. just because she's black doesn't mean she's a quota, damn ya.


But, then no conviction whatsoever that there actually IS A PERSON who will hired to fill this quota.


So, it's not about the black cause at all .. she couldn't give a rats ass about her whole bitch because if she did, she'd still be on the rampage proclaiming this shit isnt' right.


She's not ... she doesn't mind at all that one of her fellow miniorities is being thrown under the bus ... just so long as it isn't her.


That's not a dry cow ...


She said why she snapped. Fact.
You assuming you know more than what shes saying.
She said at work its cool like the incident didnt happened.
You milking a dry cow hoping to get one more drop.
So Ill believe the person that works there over the people that heard the situation.
Process of elimination: you dont work there.
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FebruaryFish .. I'm talking about a principal, that the actual deed done, in itself.



I'm talking about the Black Man being hired because he fills a quota, instead of because his talents, or skills, or even being a person for that matter.

He's hired as an object, to fill a spot.

That filling of a spot, to meet a quota, is what was proposed .... and nobody cared that the Black Man was being treated that way.

They only cared when the possibility existed that it might be them, personally.


That's like saying ... you don't care if President Bush starts a war, just so long as you don't have to go fight. You don't care if people are losing their houses to forclosures because of the economy, so long as you have a roof over your head.


This lady didn't care then, doesnt' care now .. and you, FebFish even make the implication that no care should be in place by saying all is forgotten .... that the Black Man is being objectified and treated less than human, just like they were treated 200 years ago.


And you don't care.


I care goddam all of you .. I care.