An other problem with a taurus man (Page 2)

Posted by AgentP911


Meanwhile, that same mind continues to think about that amazing Scorp woman that he so smartly turned down...

Aside from the 2 or 3 times she's murdered me, she's much less of a bitch in my dreams....but just as exciting....lol.

And its not about a guarantee really; its about risk minimization. A pledge of devotion/commitment doesn't guarantee anything. But I would rather roll the dice with that than someone who is just like "whatever will be, will be". And I'm not even saying all or any Scorps are like the latter, but if our word or pledge in love meant nothing, we probably wouldn't start off our most binding life-long commitment with this very act. My main point is not so literal in the dialogue I manufactured - its simply that with bulls reasoning will often weigh in more heavily, over feelings. And I think the opposite is often true of Scorps. Scorps seem to just catch that feeling and they "know" they can be true/loyal, and it is in their basic nature, but don't seem to be so verbal/contractual about it.

Moon and Venus?

Who gives a toss about OP's Taurus with no balls bloke and his placements... We're amidst a revolution here!!

Yeah, that was sooooo yesterday... No really, it was yesterday... It's 02:26 here...

Posted by AgentP911


Anyway, if you didn't want to assist you could have just been DIRECT and said so. Use the many emails to shove up your arse so I don't have to hear you whinge about it...

LOL, well at least I understand *your* sarcasm. *sigh*

Posted by AgentP911


I will interrogate him sufficiently enough before landing killer question and then we'll wallow in awkward silence together while I wait for him to shrink backwards in absolute fear and terror before he runs away to escape!

Sounds like a plan. Just make sure you yell "grow some balls!" on the way out the door. LOL!

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by AgentP911
So... Totally off topic... Whatever the topic was anyway!!

Genuine moral dilemma here, need assistance...

Turned up to my physiotherapist appointment on Monday. Cute dude alert. Have booked second appointment for this Tuesday.

How inappropriate of me would it be to compliment him on his nice arms and then follow it up with asking him if he's single?

Naturally I'll make some form of effort with self to be presentable.

I will interrogate him sufficiently enough before landing killer question and then we'll wallow in awkward silence together while I wait for him to shrink backwards in absolute fear and terror before he runs away to escape!

Yup, I think I've got this dating lark sorted!!

uuuuuhhhh... NO! Don't say anything. Feel him out first! What is he feeling/his behaviour towards you? I speak with my body before I ever utter a word. Talk about everything under the sun EXCEPT what you just mentioned above!

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I know FUCK ALL about him!

How cool is that!

I know his first name and he works at the clinic place on Mon and Tues, I think he's reasonably new, well that's what my personal trainer said as he's the one who recommended me the clinic but the main dude is on holiday so I got Callum, the nice arms dude!

Usually, and partly due to my work, I research the shit out of any prospective new subject.

Which is what I want to step away from doing. Seriously, I can present a dossier on most people. I'll know everything about you before I've even met you. It's scary as fuck but it pays well.

Vibe wise, well, I'm usually incredibly fussy about touch, which is a bastard at the physio, but he did put his hands on my waist and I was like 'ooooooh that's quite nice' and then he had to kinda put his arm round me, a bit like a hug from behind and I actually caught myself thinking 'oh that feels nice, just stay there a bit longer' and I almost kinda subconsciously wanted to hold his arm there a bit longer but I refrained, obviously!

I was just a bit surprised by it. Clearly I need to get out more!

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio

Posted by AgentP911


Meanwhile, that same mind continues to think about that amazing Scorp woman that he so smartly turned down...

Aside from the 2 or 3 times she's murdered me, she's much less of a bitch in my dreams....but just as exciting....lol.

And its not about a guarantee really; its about risk minimization. A pledge of devotion/commitment doesn't guarantee anything. But I would rather roll the dice with that than someone who is just like "whatever will be, will be". And I'm not even saying all or any Scorps are like the latter, but if our word or pledge in love meant nothing, we probably wouldn't start off our most binding life-long commitment with this very act. My main point is not so literal in the dialogue I manufactured - its simply that with bulls reasoning will often weigh in more heavily, over feelings. And I think the opposite is often true of Scorps. Scorps seem to just catch that feeling and they "know" they can be true/loyal, and it is in their basic nature, but don't seem to be so verbal/contractual about it.

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Yeah I would agree with that last bit.

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Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio

Posted by AgentP911


Meanwhile, that same mind continues to think about that amazing Scorp woman that he so smartly turned down...

Aside from the 2 or 3 times she's murdered me, she's much less of a bitch in my dreams....but just as exciting....lol.

And its not about a guarantee really; its about risk minimization. A pledge of devotion/commitment doesn't guarantee anything. But I would rather roll the dice with that than someone who is just like "whatever will be, will be". And I'm not even saying all or any Scorps are like the latter, but if our word or pledge in love meant nothing, we probably wouldn't start off our most binding life-long commitment with this very act. My main point is not so literal in the dialogue I manufactured - its simply that with bulls reasoning will often weigh in more heavily, over feelings. And I think the opposite is often true of Scorps. Scorps seem to just catch that feeling and they "know" they can be true/loyal, and it is in their basic nature, but don't seem to be so verbal/contractual about it.

Yeah I would agree with that last bit.

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Then it is settled. LOL.

I'm starving and am off to go eat something that I will barely enjoy. My Sag is cooking something downstairs from our new gluten-free/paleo diet, and the odor is so foul I was literally checking the carpet for large puddles of dog urine a second ago. Should be scrumptious.

Posted by Infinite8

😕 I'm surprised you didn't marry another Taurus, TLS. Wouldn't that have been the most stable decision? Guarantee of very little movement.

That is why this can rarely get started...lol. Neither side wants to move, so the other is always out of reach.

His behaviour towards me was:

Professional not flirty - as expected. I wouldn't have thought he was ok if he had been flirty as such.

He was a little nervous but if he's new then it's to be expected. Although sometimes people are nervous around me especially when I look directly at them which I try not to do.

I was stood up while he was looking at me and drawing my spine and making notes etc. I turned round, leaned in a little and said 'nah, that's rubbish, it doesn't look anything like me!' It took him a moment but he did laugh a little. Always a good sign if they laugh at my shit jokes!

He fluffed up the pillows for me... He's house trained... He's a keeper! 😉

Actually, two comments I noted:

One was during the paper consultation, I wrote zero in the 'children' box. For some reason he thought or read 'two' as in I have two kids. I said 'hey, don't be giving me any babies!' As a joke. Not actually referring to sex but he went a little red.

The other one was interesting, I was stood up, he was behind me. I was saying something about doing personal training to get fitter and he said 'you look fit to me'. However, it was said like the words left his mouth before engaging brain. I thought it was quite amusing and I paused before saying 'I'm banking that as a compliment!' The poor bastard probably regrets saying it now and he's probably thinking 'fuck, fuck, fuck, she probably thinks I like her now!' Ha ha!

Actually I don't know his moon and venus sign .. 😢

Oh and By the way, is this a taurus thing the fact that he lack of self esteem ? He was like "I don't understand why you love me, I have nothing special, except saying idiot things" "i'm ugly"
As if he doesn't deserve me or something like that ? O_O

Dang OP so young...But just be careful... I think you should really think about goals, birth control, and your life..Yes T/S are our polar opposites supposedly either we are going to hate or love each other. And if you guys have the connection now maybe go for it, support each other, and be friends first.

Good luck though keep your head up.. And his too.. Support each other and communicate..I really hope this is that happily ever after kind of story... Find true love and live life together..

@scorpiaa: no, thats more of his own issue due to what he has experienced in life. Do you know how to find his venus+moon sign? u have to know the place he was born, the birthdate+the year and timing would be nice. Just look up "natal chart astrotheme" and fill in the info

No, unfortunately, I have no way to know this !

Posted by Scorpiaaaaassss
Oh and By the way, is this a taurus thing the fact that he lack of self esteem ? He was like "I don't understand why you love me, I have nothing special, except saying idiot things" "i'm ugly"
As if he doesn't deserve me or something like that ? O_O

Yeah, its pretty common with Taurus men I feel, age is a huge factor, so is the connection. He feels unworthy/intimidated, like you are too good for him, too hard to hold onto, etc. I think you're right about all that.

Posted by LentoBull91
@tls but wouldn't you agree that if there was one zodiac sign that could actually rise above the ashes with Scorpio it would be us?

Maybe...I don't know. The Scorps I know really seem to have big ambitions from early on in life. Not that bulls don't, but we seem to take more of a straight path. Scorps seem to have more of that drive to explore/investigate/"see the world", and the darker side of things - even test those powers of seduction a bit, lol. Its a lot of power to have. I'd be terrified to be with one who hadn't exercised it, explored its limits a bit, etc. I can see a young Scorp very easily getting bored with the slow/steady pace, and narrow path of a young bull. I just think its more practical to date a Scorp who is at least past their 20's - ideally maybe late 30's, after they have gone through some of those early stages. I think this is true for more than this sign though for different reasons (e.g. Sag - they settle down a good deal after mid-30s IMO).

(cont.) As far as what you said about life testing our strength/will, I think that is part of the reason I even resist(ed) this connection. As much as its amazing to feel so much, it is also (for me) completely unnerving to have someone have that much *power* and *control* over your emotional state. It felt like it could destroy me if I didn't resist it. It was just too much. My ego told me I had to withstand this, just to survive. To allow yourself to feel that much, you'd have to be able to trust the person 100% . Its horrifying really. And I have talked to a lot of Scorps, particularly with Scorp Venus, who have felt that way. When they finally fall, it can really shake them because they lose that control. I probably have more control issues like this than the average bull though....Anyway, I enjoy reading your more optimistic perspective, and you really seem to understand the connection perfectly. You should help more of these Scorps that come in here...lol.

OOOh ( I know that your comment isn't for me but haha it's interesting me) !
Actually you are right about "investigate, explore the world" this is soooooo truuueeeee
But I think, or at least personnaly, we are really loyal, and if I want to explore the world, it doesn't matter if my bf doesn't want to explore with me : I'd love him the same and it will change nothing !
Because we (or I I don't really know, I would love to hear an other scorpio point of view) have ambitions for ourselves, only ourselves and other with people/boyfriend

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
(cont.) As far as what you said about life testing our strength/will, I think that is part of the reason I even resist(ed) this connection. As much as its amazing to feel so much, it is also (for me) completely unnerving to have someone have that much *power* and *control* over your emotional state. It felt like it could destroy me if I didn't resist it. It was just too much. My ego told me I had to withstand this, just to survive. To allow yourself to feel that much, you'd have to be able to trust the person 100% . Its horrifying really. And I have talked to a lot of Scorps, particularly with Scorp Venus, who have felt that way. When they finally fall, it can really shake them because they lose that control. I probably have more control issues like this than the average bull though....Anyway, I enjoy reading your more optimistic perspective, and you really seem to understand the connection perfectly. You should help more of these Scorps that come in here...lol.

isn't that the same for everyone though? how can you have a successful relationship without 100% effort, feeling, emotion, intention, devotion? and on order to feel and show 100% there is no choice but to be vulnerable. it's horrible to lay yourself bare but if you win it is worth every risk and every heartbreak. the lows are bad but they are eclipsed in the shadow of the highs.

Posted by jeane


isn't that the same for everyone though? how can you have a successful relationship without 100% effort, feeling, emotion, intention, devotion? and on order to feel and show 100% there is no choice but to be vulnerable. it's horrible to lay yourself bare but if you win it is worth every risk and every heartbreak. the lows are bad but they are eclipsed in the shadow of the highs.

Its different for me with the connection I felt to her. And that is a lot of what I hear from the male bull's side of this connection - a feeling of "You will ruin me.", "I couldn't handle losing you", etc. I've been in love a few times, and I've never felt that, except w/maybe the 1st love, which I think is common. With my Sag right now, its easygoing, fun, lighthearted - not that super in-depth connection that really digs into the core of you. I *LIKE* that light-heartedness for many rasons. LOL. I know if I find out my Sag cheated or something, it will hurt, but I will recover and be fine. For a VinScorp, anything like that probably just is not real love. The "true" love for you is that soul-merging. And I *do* understand that, and crave it at some level. VinGem love is not naturally like that though we're also very adaptable. If I had to choose an *ideal* - if I had the power to say love should be like X, rather than Y, I would choose the way a VinScorp loves. I feel it *should* really be like that. I think it really resonates with being a Taurus.

I feel I can never trust someone fully anyway, bc I cannot trust myself fully, and we are all human. BUT, with that VinScorp love, it really has to be 100% the way you say it - *both* ways. And I can tell that right from the vibe of her. I don't need astrology at all to see that. I can tell that the connection is so deep, faithfulness is actually just a prerequisite and maybe not even difficult, but at the same time, if there IS a rift or a breach, its going to be devastating. I also know the darker traits of my bull nature - the possessiveness and jealousy, are going to really come out much stronger because of all the feeling there. Its really a burden to feel all that stuff.

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio

Its different for me with the connection I felt to her. And that is a lot of what I hear from the male bull's side of this connection - a feeling of "You will ruin me.", "I couldn't handle losing you", etc. I've been in love a few times, and I've never felt that, except w/maybe the 1st love, which I think is common. With my Sag right now, its easygoing, fun, lighthearted - not that super in-depth connection that really digs into the core of you. I *LIKE* that light-heartedness for many rasons. LOL. I know if I find out my Sag cheated or something, it will hurt, but I will recover and be fine. For a VinScorp, anything like that probably just is not real love. The "true" love for you is that soul-merging. And I *do* understand that, and crave it at some level. VinGem love is not naturally like that though we're also very adaptable. If I had to choose an *ideal* - if I had the power to say love should be like X, rather than Y, I would choose the way a VinScorp loves. I feel it *should* really be like that. I think it really resonates with being a Taurus.

interesting. i just thought that the soul merging, profound and uncontrollable love was like that for everyone. and yes, my bull has said those things too me too (ruin me etc) although to be honest, i never truly believed it...oops...perhaps i should!

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
I feel I can never trust someone fully anyway, bc I cannot trust myself fully, and we are all human. BUT, with that VinScorp love, it really has to be 100% the way you say it - *both* ways. And I can tell that right from the vibe of her. I don't need astrology at all to see that. I can tell that the connection is so deep, faithfulness is actually just a prerequisite and maybe not even difficult, but at the same time, if there IS a rift or a breach, its going to be devastating. I also know the darker traits of my bull nature - the possessiveness and jealousy, are going to really come out much stronger because of all the feeling there. Its really a burden to feel all that stuff.

sometimes what is great is not trusting yourself but trusting them instead. it truly is a sort of self annihilation. it is the destruction of self for the birth of something beyond you. it a kind of the whole is greater than the sum of it parts. god knows i don't trust myself at all, but i trust him without reservation. i long learned to let go of the illusion that i had of control over my feelings. the only option is surrender.

i do understand what you are saying though about the depth of feeling and being enveloped by it...but argh! without risk comes no reward! why be happy with mediocrity? faithfulness isn't even an issue. every other mans face is a blur to me. i have facial blindness when it comes to them. his darker nature never need rear its head. i am his.

Posted by jeane


interesting. i just thought that the soul merging, profound and uncontrollable love was like that for everyone. and yes, my bull has said those things too me too (ruin me etc) although to be honest, i never truly believed it...oops...perhaps i should!

I would say definitely not, especially for men. LOL. Maybe we *see* love that way the first time around, or as children, or get that impression from all the surrounding media, but how many of us see that in our own family we were raised in? Not too many I would suspect. I would suspect not too many even experience it, even in the infatuation phase of relationships which eventually fades, though emotions run high. Its a great ideal but doesn't seem to be the reality. I'm an idealist so I can appreciate it, but I think with most couples they settle in to something a lot less intense and intertwined than the way a VinScorp sees love. I think for VinScorp that kind of all-consuming/encompassing/full immersion in the other is just a requirement. For others, its more like something we fantasize about, or see in the movies occasionally...lol. In fact, until I had her set her sights on me, I had really never felt that way in my life, or believed I could. Up until that point, I would avoid romantic movies just because I wasn't interested/they bored me. Now I avoid them because they cause me to feel too much, and I'd have to sit there and yearn for that ideal. I'd rather ignore it....lol. I think there is something in Scorp in general, and especially Venus in Scorp placement, that fuels that fire - to use all the clich?s at once, the deep emotionally intense passionate world that they can pull you into. I think that's real....

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio

I would say definitely not, especially for men. LOL. Maybe we *see* love that way the first time around, or as children, or get that impression from all the surrounding media, but how many of us see that in our own family we were raised in? Not too many I would suspect. I would suspect not too many even experience it, even in the infatuation phase of relationships which eventually fades, though emotions run high. Its a great ideal but doesn't seem to be the reality. I'm an idealist so I can appreciate it, but I think with most couples they settle in to something a lot less intense and intertwined than the way a VinScorp sees love. I think for VinScorp that kind of all-consuming/encompassing/full immersion in the other is just a requirement. For others, its more like something we fantasize about, or see in the movies occasionally...lol. In fact, until I had her set her sights on me, I had really never felt that way in my life, or believed I could. Up until that point, I would avoid romantic movies just because I wasn't interested/they bored me. Now I avoid them because they cause me to feel too much, and I'd have to sit there and yearn for that ideal. I'd rather ignore it....lol. I think there is something in Scorp in general, and especially Venus in Scorp placement, that fuels that fire - to use all the clich?s at once, the deep emotionally intense passionate world that they can pull you into. I think that's real....

it wasn't present in my family but then again, i choose not to use my family as a barometer for anything! those people could compete in the Dysfunction Olympics—.

i don't know tls, no doubt your sag is just lovely but even as a libra i can't help but feel you are missing out.

damn you venus!

Nah,

I hate to say this but Immature Taurus - risking his dignity and family.

Gosh, My ex Taurguy at work in my previous job. he is engineer. he was 34 that time and I was 33 that time

his married life now is not good. he is now involved with other women. If only I knew this would happen.

I might not retreat and left him all alone.

He loved me deeply like he used to tell me in his birthday but I kept on

talking to him more privately that I love him enough that I chose to leave him and find other job, for me to

move on. I'm single and not married eversince..I was thinking I was too bad If I take a married man even I was

in love with him. Now what? lol. gosh it hurts me most when he left his family and find somebody else.

It was my first time to fell in love with a Taurus man in my life - the rest are just not so sweet as him.

He is more expressive and kinda sentimental guy. I saw his courage to tell me how much he loved me and I find

it very admirable about him - he is not kind of other taurus men - who is manipulating me and trying to see

my reactions . nah, I can sense in a million miles away and smell those B.S before it hits me, so for me, I

know who's real.

That engineer taurus I am referring - 2 yrs we worked together in 1 company.

we had almost the same task

He is the Engineer of the Project and I am the accountant of the project - we worked together - The owner said

we are compatible in those projects and we were successful - oh the owner cried when I left...

The day after I left the company - gosh he called me and asked if there is vacancy in the company where I

worked because he wanted to see me everyday and work together.

I can't even hold back my tears but telling him - I'm going to miss him but I'll be fine and he will be fine

soon...after 1 month he left the company and I know what company he is now - lol.

I hate this sentiments. Tls is contagious. lol

Posted by jeane

it wasn't present in my family but then again, i choose not to use my family as a barometer for anything! those people could compete in the Dysfunction Olympics—.

i don't know tls, no doubt your sag is just lovely but even as a libra i can't help but feel you are missing out.

damn you venus!

I guess I've just accepted that life is a bit of a tragedy. We're all going to die and whatnot, right? LOL.

Posted by M143


Now what? lol. gosh it hurts me most when he left his family and find somebody else.

Oof. That is a tough one, BUT at least you have your integrity, and you don't have to live with having taken another woman's man. I would not be able to live with that personally. And if you had chosen to be with him, what is to say he wouldn't have then left you for this new woman he is with, and obviously feels strongly about?

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio

Posted by M143


Now what? lol. gosh it hurts me most when he left his family and find somebody else.

Oof. That is a tough one, BUT at least you have your integrity, and you don't have to live with having taken another woman's man. I would not be able to live with that personally. And if you had chosen to be with him, what is to say he wouldn't have then left you for this new woman he is with, and obviously feels strongly about?

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I was thinking I deprived myself just for the sake of his family now I realized it wasn't worthy after all.

I was dreaming last week - that he kissed me. We haven't kissed before even the Hot temperature goes

650 Farenheit to 343 degrees Celsius in our body when we were together. and I miss it. I didn't get a chance.

I kept joking around him that there was a luxurious hotel nearby so if he wanted I'm free and was willing to

give him a free service.. and then he said - it's not 1 night stand M.not 1 day.. I want for life.. gosh.

I was like - look sir, you have family. I don't want to hurt your 2 sons and wife. I wanted too but it's very

difficult for me..

and I don't think he's going to fall in love again.. that woman. I don't know. I don't have idea.

All I know his wife is such a jealous and a nagger.

Hello ! 😄
So I thought it will be a good idea if I give you some news !
So, on saturday it was his birthday, so I send him a text like "Happy birthday!🙂" and he replies "Thank you! 😄"
So you probably be like "nothing special" BUT I don't know why but this simple "😄" makes me so happy, and by the way, I send this text and I thought he wouldn't reply because he makes 1 hour to reply and at the same time I was on facebook and I saw him replying to other people so I was thinking "he doesn't care blablabla" AND THEN HE REPLIES 😄
And one day I was eating at school and I was very close to a guy, and this guy is GAY so I don't really care because there's nothing ambiguous
AND I SAW HIM looking at him like the all lunch and when he go out, he looks at me but like "you're mine" with a very IN LOVE eyes..
So I want to start smiling to him so we will see tomorrow..