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Long Distant Lady:

I can tell you when I was younger, and I was in Houston (for career) and my Love was in Washington DC for graduate school...She had indicated that she could get in a program that would allow her to be in Houston, and I told her that I did not think Houston suited me very well and discouraged her from moving there. It was not that I did not want her with me, it was that I wasn't too happy there, and I would not want to share that place with a person I really loved. She came to see me twice during those years and I just did not get up to see her. When I look back on that now, I can see that she probably thuught I did not want her to be with me. Eventually, our relationship fell apart. Now, I can tell you if even I find myself in a slime pit, I would rather take that sort of thing with a love by my side than to try to "spare someones" feelings about it. People have needs and feelings that have to be experienced
sooner or later. Just make it sooner, if the love is that strong.

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As a Scorpio gal who has been with two different Tauruses..I believe that a relationship between the two signs can either be really good or terribly bad. I felt an instant connection to both my bulls, yet time pulled us apart. My intensity and jealousy were too much for the guys to handle. Tauruses are some of the most gentle loving people on the planet, but I as a Scorpio I always want more spice than they usually offer. If the Scorpio can reign in their drama and fiery intensity, and the Bull can be less stubborn it makes a great combo!
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Scorpio ladies, I see where you're coming from (fellow Scorp lady here). I have *quite* the situation right now with a male Taurus that is complicated to say the least. And believe it or not, I am one of those Scorps who dislikes complication--I feel life is complicated enough without any extra relationship additives. If that makes sense. I really hope that someone, anyone, can help me out without being judgemental about certain elements of my story. I will give you the VERY bare outline (to do otherwise without being asked for details would make me feel self-absorbed and annoying...lol).

I am 20, this Taurus I'm dealing with is 21. He is Taurus with Gemini rising, I am Scorpio with Libra rising. I have "known" this guy off and on for about seven years. I put "known" in quotation marks because we shortly after our first (chance) meeting my freshman year in high school, we started up a relationship of sorts. Meaning, we went out a few times, kissed but went no further than that, and then broke up. If memory serves, I broke up with him because his seriousness with me and his intensity scared me off a bit. It wasn't all to heartbreaking for me at the time, and after a while we started talking again and remained "friends".

I put "friends" in quotation marks for many reasons. When we started to become friends after this breakup, I was probably in my softmore year at school. I had, since him, several other boyfriends (normal, not too serious relationsips)...and all the while he had continuously tried (and sometimes failed) to talk to me. On the phone, at my house, he even attended almost all my dance performances. Mind you, this was when we were long over as bf/gf.

So although I was touched by all of that, I had made it quite clear to him that I couldn't see a relationship working out for us. He never, ever seemed to get the hint. Actually I suspect he did, and didn't care about what I wanted. But anyway...

This off again/on again friendship also sometimes delved into different areas, such as a few occasions on which we admitted to each other that there were definite feelings there. The problem was that I was always able to see the bigger picture, which is that just because 2 people have romantic feelings for each other, does not mean that they would be good for each other as a couple. Also, I my love life was all over the place in high school, and I was never sure of WHO I should really be with.

To make matters worse during that time, my parents developed a strong dislike of this Taurus, because they felt he was too persistent in trying to get back together with me. Eventually (I think it was my junior year), they forbade me to ever see him or speak to him again. They even encouraged me to get a restraining order against him, because he was coming over ALL the time when he knew they didn't want him to, and becuase I didn't want conflict I even told him I didn't want him to. He stopped coming over, but continued to drive by my house, call over and over again, stuff like that. Now, I know that he wouldn't have, and never will hurt me physically. I knew that then, but everyone around me seemed to strongly disagree. There were a couple scary instances when he came over at 2 o'clock a.m. as my boyfriend was pulling into my driveway to take me home, and proceeded to get out, threaten my boyfriend with a bat and generally cause a quiet but disturbing scene, as well as the time when he sat in his parked truck outside my house and across the street for like an hour trying to watch my boyfriend and I. Those were the only times when I really questioned his stability. So...

As a result of those two instances and the havoc they were wreaking in my life, I finally told him off one day, and not very nicely. He called, and for me that was the last straw as he had been calling and hanging up over and over again. I told him never to call my house again, and to get l
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Heather,

Listen to your parents they have your best intrests at heart!

I would dump both of them and find someone that has all of the qualities you are looking for. The Taurus sounds dangerous and has proven it! The Leo is boring and is only going to get worse as time goes by! You're only 21; you have plenty of time to find the perfect mate. If you must, have a wild summer romance with the Taurus, but be prepared for the consequences later on. Look how hard it was to get rid of him the last time!

PS: You can always give him to me and I'll straighten him out! LOL
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Hi Heather,

I agree with the post above and your parents. This Taurus guy is VERY (yes in bold) possessive and has proven that he can be dangerous. Do you know how far he will go to have you? Do you think it's love or obession? He reminds me of the type that says "if I can't have you, no one else will" and you know how that ending goes. This situation is very erie. If numerous people have told you to get a restraining order on him...should I say more. I feel for your safety. I'm a taurus female and I know how charming, loving, wonderful, etc Tauruseans can be, and we are exactly those things, but it has gotten to the point in the past of him stalking you. This is totally disrespect and lack of better judgement on his part. He is/was so obsessed with the idea of getting /having you that he lost all self control and where's the stabilty in that. I admit that you are probably bored with your Leo, and you want some type of "spice in your life". but you're still young (20 I believe) and you have plenty of time to meet someone who you will 1) have stabilty with and he will have respect for you and your wishes and concerns (in other words have your best interest at heart). 2) you will enjoy his company and want to be around him because he'll give you that "spark". I'm not saying that you have to get rid of this guy because you contacted him first, but at least watch out for yourself and don't jump the gun with this relationship. I have two sayings for you that I think you'll understand. 1) The grass always looks greener on the other side. 2) Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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Heather,

One other thing, don't hurt your Leo! I'm sorry for getting on you for this because you already feel bad enough; you should have never informed him that you were sneaking behind his back and having conversations with the Taurus! Put yourself in his shoes, and he is a man! I'm sure it must be tearing him up inside! He rescued you from disaster and you're right back in danger again! Slow down and get your wits back again, and get I-sun to help you! He is smart and he can give you good advice. Sounds like you have great people around you, almost like a protective wall.

Don't be like Lott's wife who was told not to look back at disaster and she was sooo tempted and did it anyway against the word of God and was turned to stone!
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What are you talking about 65.195......etc? I know the original topic is about Scorpio/Taurus can it work? But damn have you even read the last couple of entries regarding Heather's situation? I agreee with the other posts above. Please take cre of yourself and don't hurt others for the quest for fun and exciteent. Because you just might end up alone without Leo or Taurus. Or you'll end up dead from Taurus's hands. If you love this man and he honestly loves you, you wouldn't have painted a bad picture of him. Think about it!
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Taurus Male here:

Now let's get off that "dead from a Taurus hand" stuff. Scorpios are sexy and mysterious. And it seems to me that perhaps the sexiness and mysteriousness has gotten to the Taurus's head. When love starts making one feel really bad, then what, pray tell, has it become. If you offer a true love, and someone abuses it and knnows it, you then find yourself protecting your heart. That usually means that it is definitely time to find another. I know this is easier said than done, but once the transition is made, the sooner happiness can be found.

Sticking around for payback seems to be a waiste of time.
Scorpios, just know that you do have some strong stuff, and if other signs feel confused by that, just realise that you may have planted that confusion.

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Wow you guys....it's taken me this long to respond because I keep coming back and reading/re-reading all your posts. Because every single one of you have said at least one thing (in some cases more than one thing) that had never crossed my mind; that I had never thought about. I didn't think that was possible; I really believed I had thought about every possible aspect of this situation! I have been given a lot of interesting things to think about from you guys and ladies. Thank you so much!

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You are completely right. I should never have told the Leo, my problem is that I hate lying. I hat consciously keeping major things from people. So somehow, I justified telling him in my mind by telling myself that it was a "less bad" lie if I at least told him something that was going on (while leaving out the especially hurtful stuff). And thanks for offering to "straighten" him out! lol. And I don't mind you getting on me about things because I know you are being sincere and not inflammatory.

Taurus Lady (203.128.215.120:

Your post really put things in a different perspective for me. Definitely gave me a whole lot to mull over. And you are right, where is the stability in someone who has the POTENTIAL (though I still think I'm pretty much safe with him) to get violent. I do know that if I see him out in public (I live in a relatively small city) when my bf and I are together, he would definitely try to start something in some way.

Oh gosh everyone, please keep them coming. Truly, all of your perspectives are helping me calm down and THINK about what I'm doing. And it feels good to be comforted by friends, even if over the net! I have this wonderful internet friend named i-sun who, besides you guys on this board, is the only soul who knows anything about this thing I'm going through. You see, I can't tell any of my friends here at home because I know most of them would freak out on me for even dealing with this guy.

Anyway, I sincerely thank you and can't get enough opinions!

Love,
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Taurus Male

I want to tell you something. Do you have any idea of what you wrote? When I mentioned "dead by hands of Taurus" I meant literately! Not for it to sound awful or hurtful to anyone. Because you MUST understand that love is a precious thing as us Tauruseans know, but when it comes down to being a PAIN, CAUSING HAVOC, STALKING someone else in the "NAME OF LOVE" it's no longer good. Yes I know that YOU persay and other CIVIL individuals are SANE to know the difference between love and obsession, but DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE CRAZY PEOPLE OUT IN THE WORLD. You don't live in a bubble where you perceive everyone to act and think like you, so you can't underestimate someone who shows those kind of actions towards another human being. Don't you read the newspapers, watch the News on TV. The world is complex with strange and troublesome people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not fussing at you because I love all your posts. So don't get offended because I mentioned that a FELLOW TAURUS would actually KILL someone. I guess it went against your grain to hear that. But reality is that TAURUSES and OTHER signs DO INDEED KILL people, that's why it's a thing called MURDER!!! You can't even suggest that just because he's a Taurus, he wouldn't do such a thing as if I was saying something ridiculous. And don't SUGARCOAT the fact that Scorpio's have a MYSTERY about them and that's why he's doing those things to Heather. That's crazy. I'm sure everyone and anyone has MYSTERY about them! Did you not read the part about her family/friends suggested to get a restraining order on him? I mean I don't live/know Heather or her situation really except what she tells us but Bottom line is there's no reason for anybody to hang-on, harrass, etc. someone for the name of love.

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I'm not defending anyone but please allow me to say that if someone is stalking someone to the point of being harmful -- and willing to do something harsh to anyone, then steps should be taken. Yes there is a thing called murder but I wonder why you generalized someone's sign in their determination to kill. A person being obsessed and ill -- getting to that breaking point has nothing to do with someone being a Taurus, Scorpio -- or any other sign. Just my opinion.

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Taurus Female:

Yes, I do have an idea what I wrote.
and I do read the newspapers and know of all the insane stuff that happens in this world. (and in the name of Love).

When one finds ones self doing negative things in the name of Love...IT JUST AINT LOVE ANYMORE...

AND I WILL TELL THAT TO ANYONE WHO ASKS ME (INSIDE MY "BUBBLE" OR OUTSIDE).

It is a "Not seeing the forest for the trees" sort of thing. I have learned that all things boil down to the bottom line....and I am just a bottom line type of guy. So, please just understand that when you read my opinion.

Again, I say that people do things that are indeed strange in the name of Love, and I just think Love never should be taken to these "strange places".

Please let me know if that is not clear.

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Crystal clear Taurus Male,

Thanks for clarifying for me your past post. From what I had gotten from the post was that he's doing those crazy things because scorpios are sexy and mysterious and that she bought it on for him to behave irrational which we all know that isn't an excuse to harrass someone.

and you are absolutely right that when things like that are done it's no longer love (restraining orders, I mean come on). Actually it becomes obsession and you know how Tauruses "Claim" things and have possessive traits.

I guess Heather has to deal with it and take into consideration what she may be getting into. It's her call because if she contacted him again after he had left her alone, well I really don't know what to say to that one especially if she had a new man in her life. Maybe she should think back to the times of him being around unwantedly and how she felt at those times (riding past her house, threatening her bf with a bat, calling her home 2 in the AM, sitting in his car watching her, calling then hanging up, showing up unexpectedly, etc.). Who would want to get involved with that again. I certainly wouldn't just because you feel bored with your current bf).

I mean she's young and has plenty of time and energy to find someone who she will love in a way like no other. I wish you luck Heather.

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Wow taurus male, you certainly hit the this subject right on! I stayed with my taurus for 4 years before ,ffinally and gratefully I realized no matter what the relationship would never be a loving and growing one, it cost me a great deal too, when he broke my ribs I realized it was more about power on both sides, Not worth losing my life over though and he started telling me if I didn't watch myself he would kill me. Still am trying to heal from all of the madness, thank you for your honesty and candor. Scorp Lady
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"Yes there is a thing called murder but I wonder why you generalized someone's sign in their determination to kill."

Aries female?

No one is accusing an entire group of people for the actions of a few! You are distorting the seriousness of this situation with BS. If you can't offer anything better than that, then don't offer anymore insipid remarks! It's just a coincidence...all of these people have the same thing in common-- their lovers were the same types of men!
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Question for Scorpion:

(and then I will follow up with the rest of you)

It is slightly possible that you know these people...but who are you and which one of them do you think you might know? Then again, all of this could be a weird coincidence...but you never know. Sorry for not answering directly, but I need to know who I'm dealing with before giving out any more information, for many reasons.

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Taurus Male here:

The great thing about these boards is it's Stealthness. There is always that doubt about anyone's identity. There are millions of avenues from anywhere comming through here, so that is what makes it simple to "spill the ole guts" sort of speak. (because no one knows you).
Don't see how you would know the same people unless you pre-planned it on the outside to discuss it here.

Just a thought...

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Aries Female 64.12 what are you talking about? You said that I was generalizing on a sign or that I wasn't taking the Heather situation serious? I beg to differ with you!! Did you even read what I had wrote to Taurus Male and comprehend it? I was trying to explain to Taurus male that it seemed that he generalized her situation by thinking this man Heather was involved with wouldn't harm her because he was a Taurus. Me and Taurus Male discussed this further in our messages and it was cleared up. So where do you get off stating that what I said was BS. Can you clarify that for me—??
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Aries Female I think you need to read this again! Get it together

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I want to tell you something. Do you have any idea of what you wrote? When I mentioned "dead by hands of Taurus" I meant literately! Not for it to sound awful or hurtful to anyone. Because you MUST understand that love is a precious thing as us Tauruseans know, but when it comes down to being a PAIN, CAUSING HAVOC, STALKING someone else in the "NAME OF LOVE" it's no longer good. Yes I know that YOU persay and other CIVIL individuals are SANE to know the difference between love and obsession, but DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE CRAZY PEOPLE OUT IN THE WORLD. You don't live in a bubble where you perceive everyone to act and think like you, so you can't underestimate someone who shows those kind of actions towards another human being. Don't you read the newspapers, watch the News on TV. The world is complex with strange and troublesome people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not fussing at you because I love all your posts. So don't get offended because I mentioned that a FELLOW TAURUS would actually KILL someone. I guess it went against your grain to hear that. But reality is that TAURUSES and OTHER signs DO INDEED KILL people, that's why it's a thing called MURDER!!! You can't even suggest that just because he's a Taurus, he wouldn't do such a thing as if I was saying something ridiculous. And don't SUGARCOAT the fact that Scorpio's have a MYSTERY about them and that's why he's doing those things to Heather. That's crazy. I'm sure everyone and anyone has MYSTERY about them! Did you not read the part about her family/friends suggested to get a restraining order on him? I mean I don't live/know Heather or her situation really except what she tells us but Bottom line is there's no reason for anybody to hang-on, harrass, etc. someone for the name of love.

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"I'm not defending anyone but please allow me to say that if someone is stalking someone to the point of being harmful -- and willing to do something harsh to anyone, then steps should be taken. Yes there is a thing called murder but I wonder why you generalized someone's sign in their determination to kill. A person being obsessed and ill -- getting to that breaking point has nothing to do with someone being a Taurus, Scorpio -- or any other sign. Just my opinion."

Sorry I hate to have to do this to everyone again. Read your own post again. Then go back and re-read the ones before your reply and tell me why you would bother to make the statement you did. You seemt to be offended when anyone says anything bad about any Taurus. You need to stop taking everything like it is a personal attack on you. Nobody is attacking you personally! How this clears it up for you.

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Hi Heather!
Well just to make sure we're talking about the same Mike,God, I'd feel stupid if I was wrong and it was all a coincidence, but the one I'm talking about has a last name that starts with "A"(hint-"Ace") and I know him from the sakting rink.
Hope these are some good clues.
Now we'll see...

PS: But if this is who ur talking about I would be more comfortable telling u in private, then letting the rest of the world know some pretty personal details.

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Hi Heather!
Well just to make sure we're talking about the same Mike,God, I'd feel stupid if I was wrong and it was all a coincidence, but the one I'm talking about has a last name that starts with "A"(hint-"Ace") and I know him from the sakting rink.
Hope these are some good clues.
Now we'll see...

PS: But if this is who ur talking about I would be more comfortable telling u in private, then letting the rest of the world know some pretty personal details.

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Ah, Scorpion, there you are! lol, I was waiting in much anticipation to hear more ; ) Wow, first of all no, you are not stupid, however it is not the same Mike. (Whew!!) That was going to be really crazy though. And that was very respectful of you to not give out too many details--that shows a lot of good judgement on your part. Even though it isn't him, thank you for offering to help just in case it was! : )

To everyone else: the reason I haven't updated you guys on what's going on at the moment is because I've got so much on my mind to think about, and I truly haven't had a quality chance to sit down and write something of meaning yet. But, I will! Until then, thank you all again for your advice and insights...I guess the libra in me needs to look at EVERY side of EVERYTHING before making a decision...so everyone has helped a lot in that way. Talk to you all soon.

Love,
Heather

P.S. I'm sorry to have made some of you argue; that wasn't my intention at all! : ) Peace, my brothers and sisters...
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I have a question for Taurus Male, You are the same age as the man I am semi involved with and you sound very wise. Im a Libra with Scorpio in Venus and my friend is a Taurus. I have heard conflicting statements and wonder which is true. Taurus falls in love quickly, then I've heard that Taurus's take their time to know their heart and when they do, they ponce. Im wondering which is more characteristic. My friend has quietly persued me for about 4yrs. We have always been friends and we would do things together like shoot pool and hang out. I was married at the time and had no idea that my Taurus was interested in me like that. Well now, I am single and Im not so sure where he is at. Taurus's dont give off the signales like most zodiac signs. We see each other but things are moving very slowly and Im just wondering what your thoughts are on this subject. I am 10yrs younger than him, we have a great time together and the sex is fantastic. But I cant read him— Help— lol......I have read alot of what you have posted and I respect your advice..

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