Taurus mood swings...

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Posted by phEnyxBull876
Taurus sun, Gemini Venus, Libra moon.

Do any of you fellow Tauruses deal with frequent mood swings? If so, do you also suffer with any sort of depression?

How has this affected your relationships?



Hell yes. Glad someone said something...lol. I woke up miserable this morning.

I have battled with depression since my childhood. There's a lot I do to deal with it, and that changes all the time too. Right now, I am focusing on just living in the moment, not really thinking about the future or the past at all. *Accepting* what is, trying to enjoy all the good that *does* exist in my life, but is often eclipsed by these foul moods.

Exercise helps. Music helps me SO MUCH. I cannot live without music. I listen to music first thing in the morning, and all throughout the remainder of the day to adjust my moods. Also, various aspects of spirituality and psychology have helped me a ton...

I've always wondered if other bulls struggle with depression. I can't imagine that too many bulls are as negative as I am though, with this Capricorn Ascendant, and Pluto squaring it. Life itself disgusts me when I fall into these moods, and I see no meaning in it whatsoever, and literally look forward to dying.
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In relationships, its definitely done damage. When I'm in the low mood, if someone hurts me (with something slight like not giving me full attention when I come home feeling down), I bottle it up, and in my head I am SO cynical. I isolate myself. I can't believe for a minute that they actually care about me, and I put them in a category of someone who is just "there" that doesn't really understand me. I can easily go cold to them. I've learned NOT to do that and am way better now than I used to be.

What I have found for *me* personally, is that it CAN be more unhealthy for me to be with a deeply empathic or empathetic person. When with Cancers, they will try to nurture/mother and empathize, and its bad for them and me. I find that there is a quality in myself where I want others to feel my pain, so they know what I'm going through. No one is ever going to feel it like you do though, and they shouldn't have to literally do that, in order to help you. When I'm with a partner who really wants to get in there and feel me out, I find I relive the pain in describing it to them, maybe even make it worse. Its almost like I am outsourcing DEALING with it myself, which I no longer think is healthy. I caught myself doing this with my mother first. She'd call and I'd be in an ok mood, then she'd ask how I'm doing and I'd describe the WORST of everything to her - knowing she cares, knowing she feels my pain, etc. By end of convo, she's depressed, I'm now depressed, etc.

With the Sag, her energy is so positive, and she is so utterly clueless to my internal states. I could be so sad that storm clouds are forming in the living room and raining in her face, and she will just open and umbrella up and keep watching TV. She WILL listen to me if I ask her, and empathize, but I give her the cliff notes now bc there is no point. Talking does help, but you can't really externalize the pain like I used to. I used to do that, because *I* didn't really want to face it or deal with it myself - only complain about it bitterly in an endless philosophical diatribe, the goal of which is to convert someone to my temporary hopelessness. We are so stubborn, no one can reason us out our personal apocalypse so I always drag them down....If I do that to my Sag, and she loses her optimism for like 3 seconds, she will try to jump out the window, so its just easy not to do it.
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I'd like to contribute to this post and see if anyone has any helpful insights etc.

The Taurus Sun guy I'm seeing/getting to know suffers with depression and anxiety. I'm still getting to know him so it's very early days.

He has Venus in Gemini, Mercury in Aries, and Mars in Leo. His moon is either in Cancer or Leo and I don't know his time of birth for rising sign. Very similar placements to TLS.

He's not where he'd like to be right now in his life so he's finding that hard to deal with. He quit his teaching job in June and as a result had to move back in with his parents. He's 34. He went to college. He has never married and doesn't have kids. He's currently been doing odd jobs to keep money coming in while he re-thinks his life.

From what I gather, most, if not all his friends and his two sisters are married, settled down, have kids or are starting a family, they have their own places either rented or mortgaged, they have jobs or careers etc. So on paper everyone is doing well. He is not.

I can appreciate that, as a man, and as a Taurus man (Aries cusp) that this is affecting how he feels about himself right now. He's making plans to get his life back on track and he has the 'omph' to do so which I like but it seems that one small thing can really knock the wind out of his sails and send him on a downer.

I am learning and seeing the 'negative' Taurus traits such as not dealing well with change and being stubborn/bull headed. Equally I'm learning and seeing 'positives' too such as his openness and directness, and his ability to cut through and see a situation rationally and logically rather than emotionally is fucking incredible. I won't provide examplesas they're unnecessary.

I'm Scorpio so I know all about having issues! 😉

I don't really have any specific questions but I felt I could kind of relate to some of the posts here and I'm interested to learn more about how the situation my Taurus finds himself in really affects him inside and how I can offer the right kind of support in the right way without pissing him off!

As I said, this is very early days, the earliest of early days and it might be a case of bad or wrong timing but I'm just looking to spend some time with him and get to know him more without the pressure of it going anywhere as such. He's open to things in the future but knows he needs to get his stuff sorted first. I have to say, he does have his head screwed on which is nice, despite the circumstances he fi
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TLS,

Your last post was very interesting about it actually being worse when with an empathic sign.

As a Scorpio Sun and Venus with Moon in Pisces I can be far too empathic at times. However, with a Sag rising and Mercury I have that more positive 'snap out of it' optimism going on too.

My Taurus is currently on a downer right now and I don't know him well enough to know how I might deal with it.

Half of me wants to be empathic and understanding but I kinda feel it makes me a little on the sappy side. The other half wants to not focus on his shit and just say 'fuck it man, let's just do something fun and forget about it all'.

He's put off our lunch time date from today to tomorrow as he's not feeling well anyway but he had a run in at his bank today.

I feel like saying 'awwww baby come here, I wanna hug you better' along with 'snap the fuck out of it, it's just a bank account, you managed to play football last night and now you wanna blow me off, I go home to the UK on Tuesday!'

Jesus, he's hard work!!
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Posted by phEnyxBull876
Taurus sun, Gemini Venus, Libra moon.

Do any of you fellow Tauruses deal with frequent mood swings? If so, do you also suffer with any sort of depression?

How has this affected your relationships?



Taurus Sun, Gemini Venus, Cancer Moon and Mars

I have VIOLENT mood swings. I suffer from depression, and bi-polar disorder. I have a short/bad temper, get annoyed easily, and I don't really like to talk to anyone. I've been like this since I was a child. I think it's my Cancer Mars lol

My family suffers from this the most... I lash out on everyone for no reason I really can't help it 😢

My ex dealt with this too for 4 years... I could tell he was suffering... I feel horrible for being like this, but I really can't help it. I know how to control it more, but there are times when I just can't.

My Taurus bf has horrible mood swings and a violent temper too from what I've heard. I've only seen him have mood swings when I get mad at him for something.
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Posted by phEnyxBull876
Taurus sun, Gemini Venus, Libra moon.

Do any of you fellow Tauruses deal with frequent mood swings? If so, do you also suffer with any sort of depression?

How has this affected your relationships?



I've always wondered if other bulls struggle with depression. I can't imagine that too many bulls are as negative as I am though

Life itself disgusts me when I fall into these moods, and I see no meaning in it whatsoever, and literally look forward to dying.
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I'm on the same page as you
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I did this to my ex taurus without feeling guilty. I don't know maybe I'm not just too emotional as he.


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In relationships, its definitely done damage. When I'm in the low mood, if someone hurts me (with something slight like not giving me full attention when I come home feeling down), I bottle it up, and in my head I am SO cynical. I isolate myself. I can't believe for a minute that they actually care about me, and I put them in a category of someone who is just "there" that doesn't really understand me. I can easily go cold to them. I've learned NOT to do that and am way better now than I used to be.

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Oh yeah it was like *you don't hug me when you come home from your work* * you don't kiss me either*.

I was speechless...and the following day it was like. Volcano erupted!!!. He sent me to my home.

and the following day, it was like an email from him saying he was alone proceeding his project.

what the heck is that!!! lol. pity? sentimental? confused? I don't know.

We are adult so sometimes we have to think first before we act or regret the outcome.

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Let me elaborate on one thing -

The contempt that I have is for myself. I'm the source of it. When I choose to deny myself of this it travels outward, externalizes onto others. Most of the time though, it stays within me. I carry it, calmly and silently.




*selfish and stubborn* does it taste good after? oh yeah some people drink the poison to think they can burn
the other, when in fact, they are the one sinking.
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Hm a Gemini diagnosed me a clincial depressed person. I don't feel like I am depressing. I feel I do get moody, cause I am a Taurus with Aquarius moon. So double whammy. I get moody when I am tired, or fears come to play, or controlled. And I have to work hard and zaps my energy away and I feel I try so hard to accomplish a better situation. I listen to music all the time. Keeps me sane. and watch movies. I love to go out and do things when I am not tired or not working. But I don't think I am depressed and very peaceful and happy.
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Half of me wants to be empathic and understanding but I kinda feel it makes me a little on the sappy side. The other half wants to not focus on his shit and just say 'fuck it man, let's just do something fun and forget about it all'.





Its good to have both sides - some empathy, but also be able to distract him. We take our moods way further than we need to. For a lot of people prone to depression, that void actually is comfortable. Its like its calling you - you actually feel very drawn towards being sad, will listen to sad music that makes you even more depressed, etc. People are a great distraction. When I have my daughter, it really helps my depression. Its hard to be sad around her.
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Half of me wants to be empathic and understanding but I kinda feel it makes me a little on the sappy side. The other half wants to not focus on his shit and just say 'fuck it man, let's just do something fun and forget about it all'.





Its good to have both sides - some empathy, but also be able to distract him. We take our moods way further than we need to. For a lot of people prone to depression, that void actually is comfortable. Its like its calling you - you actually feel very drawn towards being sad, will listen to sad music that makes you even more depressed, etc. People are a great distraction. When I have my daughter, it really helps my depression. Its hard to be sad around her.
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Sad music is actually my happy place (I.e. The National). I tend to despise any music that reminds me of that mental place I don't want to be. THAT is my sad music.

Totally agree with the depression curtain sort of listing when my son is around. Can't let him see me that way. Although the little Leo bugger is incredibly intuitive for an 8 yr old and I both adore and hate that lol.
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As for me, my mood swings are always an issue in my relationships. Well, my bitchiness to be specific.

However, my cancer told me he is having a hard time handling my moods. And maybe its just me, but I find that hilarious! Especially because my moods reflect his so much, and are often very reactionary. And I just don't know how to counter this comment without sounding like a child. "You did it, so why can't I?"
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Am I moody?

Sometimes.

I'm a loner, so I have a lot of alone time to reflect, meditate, listen to soft music. I write poems, and I love painting, reading, and watching the Golden Girls. Soft scents also lift my spirits.

When this time isn't utilized when I need it....

I'm a complete and total BITCH!

Why do I need this time?

To think, to plan, to focus, to internalize, to reflect, to make a decision.

I'm a Bull, so if my money is funny, read the sign and KEEP OUT!

A healthy relationship with the perfect balance of required space while still being my rock is greatly appreciated.

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I'm pretty sure that most Bulls are introverts, and our other placements (specifically our rising) can affect how far into that spectrum we go (I.e. extreme introvert vs middle of the road) and how we act around others. But Taurus just seems to be a naturally introverted sign... Because everything TaurusBull1977 just said is us...and it's also the description of an introvert. We need our personal time to do what we need to do. We PREFER to be loners, we manage our emotions by keeping it in, working through it on our own, because nobody is going to do that better than us. And then when we are good and full, we'll release/share some of that energy and bless the people around us with our presence. But if you intrude on our space, or push us into that space before we choose...look out!
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PhenyxB-

You're right.
Bulls are introverts.
We're simplistic but yet, quite complex creatures.
We mean what we say.
But never share what we're thinking.

Example.
Other person: Do you want to be left alone?
Bull: Yes.
Other Person: You seem annoyed.
Bull: I am annoyed, I told you I want to be left alone, and yet, you're still here.

*Bull scratches head, wonders why they haven't heard from the other person in several days*

Now questions this person's sincerity.

"A healthy relationship with the perfect balance of required space while still being my rock is greatly appreciated."

^^^^This can be rather difficult to accomplish.^^^
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I notice that a lot of you replying are Gem Venus. Do you think it has any connection with your moodiness, or just a coincidence?



I don't have Gem Venus but this Taurus I'm seeing does and OMG he can be like a petulant child! Moody is an understatement. I swear he does or says things just to get a reaction, or to see if he can control something or me, I think he thinks I'm a bloody puppet or something! I'm not sure if it's related to other placements or he's just being a dick...
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I notice that a lot of you replying are Gem Venus. Do you think it has any connection with your moodiness, or just a coincidence?



Honestly, the word moodiness doesn't even scratch the surface. I go through really dark phases of depression. They last for long periods of time. I've been in one lately. I'm taking the next week off of work, and unless I have something specific and urgent planned for each day, I will sleep 12-14 hours, just basically because I see no reason to get out of bed. I will even stay in bed after I wake up, for several hours - it is like being in a waking coma. I lose all drive, all ambition, all sense of meaning and purpose....I actually like it. lol.
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PhenyxB-

You're right.
Bulls are introverts.
We're simplistic but yet, quite complex creatures.
We mean what we say.
But never share what we're thinking.

Example.
Other person: Do you want to be left alone?
Bull: Yes.
Other Person: You seem annoyed.
Bull: I am annoyed, I told you I want to be left alone, and yet, you're still here.

*Bull scratches head, wonders why they haven't heard from the other person in several days*

Now questions this person's sincerity.

"A healthy relationship with the perfect balance of required space while still being my rock is greatly appreciated."

^^^^This can be rather difficult to accomplish.^^^

I am such a fan of yours TB77! I love Taurus people, my guy is one too. But back on your comment above, yes there will come a time or plenty of times that I am sure Bulls wonder why they have not heard from that other person but isn't that fair? I mean how can you expect (some) people to understand and want then to come back with open arms? I'm only playing devil's advocate here. I've asked my best friend of more than 20 years which she has explained but I'm curious to your thoughts and everyone else. Me being a Capricorn, I get it and I will back off and give you space but I may not be available for your return right away for whatever reason but I'll get back to you.🙂
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I notice that a lot of you replying are Gem Venus. Do you think it has any connection with your moodiness, or just a coincidence?



Honestly, the word moodiness doesn't even scratch the surface. I go through really dark phases of depression. They last for long periods of time. I've been in one lately. I'm taking the next week off of work, and unless I have something specific and urgent planned for each day, I will sleep 12-14 hours, just basically because I see no reason to get out of bed. I will even stay in bed after I wake up, for several hours - it is like being in a waking coma. I lose all drive, all ambition, all sense of meaning and purpose....I actually like it. lol.
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My friend! I knew you had to be depressed or something. I noticed that you suddenly disappeared. I'm sure you'll come out of this darkness soon. I too suffer from depression and just recently came out of it and I'm glad it didn't last as long as I thought. Some Caps can relate.
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I do find peace and happiness. When I see people I don't know Happy, or my co workers come to me for advice, or keeping secrets that your friends are telling you. Makes me happy. I am introverted and a loner. I don't have many friends like some other signs. I pick Nd choose. When my virgo mother drinks and smokes weed together. we argue. I get really moody, sensitive, and depressed. Because why are you so fucking critical and a hypocrite, and two faced. I do have a heart and emotions.

But I do things to keep busy and I actually moved out of my mother's house because. I stress easily and dont like fake people and drama. Now I am much better and lively. I can't stand Virgo people sometimes. Who said Taurus is compatible with Virgos. Not I. Maybe males are different than females.But if males are like my mom than fuck no. I had the experience already.
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My friend! I knew you had to be depressed or something. I noticed that you suddenly disappeared. I'm sure you'll come out of this darkness soon. I too suffer from depression and just recently came out of it and I'm glad it didn't last as long as I thought. Some Caps can relate.



I hear Caps get pretty gloomy as well, but may be even less likely to talk about it. I've been reading a lot about Cap lately as its my Ascendant. Trying to figure out how much I can blame on it....lol.
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@Agent911. Just be patient. 🙂



I'm trying to be patient and understanding, I have been for the last six months since we first met, meanwhile all he's trying is my patience!

I can't be arsed to put the three main examples from yesterday up on this board.

I've come to visit him in the USA from the UK. I wanted to spend some time with him to see how we got on and get to know him more as we can't do that from 5000 miles away over text. It was a risk and a chance I took as I thought it might be worth it but if he wants to be a dick head then so be it. I go home on Tuesday and my life will continue.
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@Agent911. Just be patient. 🙂



I'm trying to be patient and understanding, I have been for the last six months since we first met, meanwhile all he's trying is my patience!

I can't be arsed to put the three main examples from yesterday up on this board.

I've come to visit him in the USA from the UK. I wanted to spend some time with him to see how we got on and get to know him more as we can't do that from 5000 miles away over text. It was a risk and a chance I took as I thought it might be worth it but if he wants to be a dick head then so be it. I go home on Tuesday and my life will continue.

I just reread your previous posts and I see your dilemma. Yeah I think he should compartmentalize his issues for a few days and try to enjoy your company while you're here. That's what I would do as a Pisces anyway. Sounds like he's just not in tge right head space right now for anything romantic. If you want to build something with this guy, use the long haul approach.
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Yeah I'm considering doing the long haul thing. It's been six months already so another six months to see how things are isn't going to make much difference.

I'll keep my options open for now but I'm not particularly interested in anyone else (I've done the dating thing for a while) but I can't wait indefinitely as I'm getting old!

I've invited him to the UK to see what it might offer so it's up to him. He isn't in a romantic frame of mind right now which is a shame but that's just how it is. Once he moves out from his parents house and gets his own space again he can clear his head and think about things.

He's still a moody little f u c k e r though!! I thought I was moody but from what I'm reading from other Taurus folk, you guys really get into this moody depression thing and take it to a whole new level... Seriously, if it were an Olympic sport then you'd win gold every time!!
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Posted by PVandJellay
I notice that a lot of you replying are Gem Venus. Do you think it has any connection with your moodiness, or just a coincidence?



Honestly, the word moodiness doesn't even scratch the surface. I go through really dark phases of depression. They last for long periods of time. I've been in one lately. I'm taking the next week off of work, and unless I have something specific and urgent planned for each day, I will sleep 12-14 hours, just basically because I see no reason to get out of bed. I will even stay in bed after I wake up, for several hours - it is like being in a waking coma. I lose all drive, all ambition, all sense of meaning and purpose....I actually like it. lol.
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Agreed! Mental health days/vacations FTW.
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and you are SENSITIVE bull like my ex. who kept raising stupid topics and get hurts.



Don't mind M143; she's on the outs again with her bull, and she always comes here to release a little excess venom from her stinger when that happens....lol.
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hahaha. this made me laugh. really. I just sometimes, I can't deal with him and yes you are right I'm always
looking an outlet to release because I can't just talk to him directly because of his sensitive emotions that
drives me out again. lol. I don't want to hurt him. I knew him. His moon is in Taurus.
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PB876,

I am not interested anymore. That attitude I can't deal. done. we're moving forward. Playing? as if you knew

my ex bull and you need to conclude that assumptions.

TLS,

Again, Maybe I just don't love him very much. I don't need to sting people I'm just

reading between the lines how they react.. topic they started and can't stand the opinions from others.




Sweet M, you're one of those Scorpio chicks that thinks everybody gives 2 fucks about them. Go ahead and sting all you want. My spirit animal is honey badger. After I take this nap (induced by your lackluster attempt to call me out), I'll finish what I started. If this isn't LOUD enough for you, might I recommend a good hearing aid?

It's clear you've taken a liking to me, so I'll be polite and say I'm flattered! When you actually have an unselfish opinion that's not based on your singular failed personal experience with a Taurus male, please do point me in that direction. I'm still unsure what any of your comments have added to this post, but it's worth a try, eh?

Toodles!
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AgentP911,

hahaha. Bulls are really that difficult. That's why my ex bull and I had always back & forth thing. lol.

That is their behavior. All we can do is to set our boundaries sometimes. I'm just glad that my ex pampered

me during those tough times we had. But all of his exes were complaining about him and end up a bitter person

instead of being better.



M,

Total disaster! The guy is a waste of space and so full of crap. Issues doesn't begin to explain it...

Next!!