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MsFiona
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Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...

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Posted by earlorg16
Posted by Scorpio123
She didn't say she's against sex, she's been having sex with him, but she doesn't want it to be JUST sex like it was.
She said in her post she told him she wants to withhold sex from him until they build a stronger foundation if they got back together. That can scare a bull away because they need consistency and the uncertainty of that aspect of their relationship or rather, the unknown amount of time for it to get there again, may be a bit much for him to handle especially considering he already waited 8 months prior.
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Dang! Eight months?! 😱 I ain't waiting eight months!!!!! You got me "thinking" Ear.......

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva
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Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...

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You need to read what you just posted.

Then ask yourself why you even what a second go at something that was clearly shit and fraught with problems.

I don't know why you are even thinking about it as if it's an option. He's clearly not keen.
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MsFiona
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Posted by AgentP911
Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...




You need to read what you just posted.

Then ask yourself why you even what a second go at something that was clearly shit and fraught with problems.

I don't know why you are even thinking about it as if it's an option. He's clearly not keen.

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I ask myself all the time 'why tf would do I even bother," but when you really love someone it sucks that you even think about going back...
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Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...




You need to read what you just posted.

Then ask yourself why you even what a second go at something that was clearly shit and fraught with problems.

I don't know why you are even thinking about it as if it's an option. He's clearly not keen.


I ask myself all the time 'why tf would do I even bother," but when you really love someone it sucks that you even think about going back...

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so what you're saying is that you love being treated badly? you love someone who makes you cry yourself to sleep, who lets you down, who you don't trust, who is disrespectful.

agentp is right in that you are trying to control the situation with your genitals. it's like you are trying to reward a puppy with a treat when he doesn't piss on your carpet.

that's just folly. stop wasting your time. you won't win here. yeah, you may get him under control for a bit while you dangle your carrot but he will get bored, he will continue to disrespect you, after all, you took him back, and you'll go back to thinking you've "wasted your vag" on him.
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MsFiona
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Posted by EvatheDiva
Posted by earlorg16
Posted by Scorpio123
She didn't say she's against sex, she's been having sex with him, but she doesn't want it to be JUST sex like it was.
She said in her post she told him she wants to withhold sex from him until they build a stronger foundation if they got back together. That can scare a bull away because they need consistency and the uncertainty of that aspect of their relationship or rather, the unknown amount of time for it to get there again, may be a bit much for him to handle especially considering he already waited 8 months prior.
Dang! Eight months?! 😱 I ain't waiting eight months!!!!! You got me "thinking" Ear.......

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva
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lol!
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Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...




You need to read what you just posted.

Then ask yourself why you even what a second go at something that was clearly shit and fraught with problems.

I don't know why you are even thinking about it as if it's an option. He's clearly not keen.


I ask myself all the time 'why tf would do I even bother," but when you really love someone it sucks that you even think about going back...


so what you're saying is that you love being treated badly? you love someone who makes you cry yourself to sleep, who lets you down, who you don't trust, who is disrespectful.

agentp is right in that you are trying to control the situation with your genitals. it's like you are trying to reward a puppy with a treat when he doesn't piss on your carpet.

that's just folly. stop wasting your time. you won't win here. yeah, you may get him under control for a bit while you dangle your carrot but he will get bored, he will continue to disrespect you, after all, you took him back, and you'll go back to thinking you've "wasted your vag" on him.
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Didn't say that, granted we did have good times. I fell in love with him before all that happened. Im not controlling any situation with my vag, holding off sex was just as hard for me. I love sex but I don't love being used for it...
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Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...




You need to read what you just posted.

Then ask yourself why you even what a second go at something that was clearly shit and fraught with problems.

I don't know why you are even thinking about it as if it's an option. He's clearly not keen.


I ask myself all the time 'why tf would do I even bother," but when you really love someone it sucks that you even think about going back...

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You need your head examined. I'd also recommend you look into what love and a good relationship looks and feels like because you don't have a clue. I wonder if you feel emotionally tied to this person because you invested time and energy into him and because you had sex with him bearing in mind you place (far too much) emphasis on sex etc.

I think you should move on to either have time on your own or date someone who is also willing to wait for sex such as a guy holding out for marriage etc but good luck in finding someone who matches your unrealistic expectations... temporary sex ban... oh my life... and a Taurean man too... I laughed so hard I nearly shit meself!!
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MsFiona
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Posted by AgentP911
Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...




You need to read what you just posted.

Then ask yourself why you even what a second go at something that was clearly shit and fraught with problems.

I don't know why you are even thinking about it as if it's an option. He's clearly not keen.


I ask myself all the time 'why tf would do I even bother," but when you really love someone it sucks that you even think about going back...




You need your head examined. I'd also recommend you look into what love and a good relationship looks and feels like because you don't have a clue. I wonder if you feel emotionally tied to this person because you invested time and energy into him and because you had sex with him bearing in mind you place (far too much) emphasis on sex etc.

I think you should move on to either have time on your own or date someone who is also willing to wait for sex such as a guy holding out for marriage etc but good luck in finding someone who matches your unrealistic expectations... temporary sex ban... oh my life... and a Taurean man too... I laughed so hard I nearly shit meself!!
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Thanks for the terrible advice!
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MsFiona
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Posted by Scorpio123
Reading the advice on sex from other women here make me cringe so hard. Smh.

So much for feminism. ? And I thought I wasn't a feminist.

OP, only YOU can decide when YOU want to have sex. Don't listen to advice from weirdos on the internet who are probably in a whole other age bracket than you are. Things change, now men can't force women to do anything they don't want.

I think your mind is already made, you don't need advice from anyone honey.
I agree with you. The women here gave me men advice smh ? Thank you so much for yours! ?
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Posted by MsFiona
Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...




You need to read what you just posted.

Then ask yourself why you even what a second go at something that was clearly shit and fraught with problems.

I don't know why you are even thinking about it as if it's an option. He's clearly not keen.


I ask myself all the time 'why tf would do I even bother," but when you really love someone it sucks that you even think about going back...




You need your head examined. I'd also recommend you look into what love and a good relationship looks and feels like because you don't have a clue. I wonder if you feel emotionally tied to this person because you invested time and energy into him and because you had sex with him bearing in mind you place (far too much) emphasis on sex etc.

I think you should move on to either have time on your own or date someone who is also willing to wait for sex such as a guy holding out for marriage etc but good luck in finding someone who matches your unrealistic expectations... temporary sex ban... oh my life... and a Taurean man too... I laughed so hard I nearly shit meself!!
Thanks for the terrible advice!

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It's great advice. You just don't want to see it as you're hung up on some bloke and you don't know why despite reeling off all that's bad about him and how you were together yet you want to go back for more. That's just dumb. Best advice is to leave him alone and find someone who matches what you want. That's common sense. Why run after someone who doesn't want you knowing it's never going to work and be more of the same.
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Reading the advice on sex from other women here make me cringe so hard. Smh.

So much for feminism. ? And I thought I wasn't a feminist.

OP, only YOU can decide when YOU want to have sex. Don't listen to advice from weirdos on the internet who are probably in a whole other age bracket than you are. Things change, now men can't force women to do anything they don't want.

I think your mind is already made, you don't need advice from anyone honey.
I agree with you. The women here gave me men advice smh ? Thank you so much for yours! ?

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You are trying to re-start a relationship with someone who isn't a good match for you, isn't looking for the same things as you, doesn't have the same values or outlook as you, who you say made you feel like shit, you cried after sex, he wasn't interested in you, and is basically a bit of an arsehole... and you roll your eyes and shake your head at people on here who have taken their time out of their day to read your thread to offer you opinions and advice in the hope that at least some of it might be useful to you. You asked for advice. You need men advice. You're mid 20's. I would think that some people in a different age bracket especially an older age bracket may have had more experience than you and may offer you valuable insight but you crack on barking up whichever tree you want. Just don't come here for assistance and then shit on our doorsteps because you may not agree with what others say.
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Posted by MsFiona
Posted by Scorpio123
Reading the advice on sex from other women here make me cringe so hard. Smh.

So much for feminism. ? And I thought I wasn't a feminist.

OP, only YOU can decide when YOU want to have sex. Don't listen to advice from weirdos on the internet who are probably in a whole other age bracket than you are. Things change, now men can't force women to do anything they don't want.

I think your mind is already made, you don't need advice from anyone honey.
I agree with you. The women here gave me men advice smh ? Thank you so much for yours! ?




You are trying to re-start a relationship with someone who isn't a good match for you, isn't looking for the same things as you, doesn't have the same values or outlook as you, who you say made you feel like shit, you cried after sex, he wasn't interested in you, and is basically a bit of an arsehole... and you roll your eyes and shake your head at people on here who have taken their time out of their day to read your thread to offer you opinions and advice in the hope that at least some of it might be useful to you. You asked for advice. You need men advice. You're mid 20's. I would think that some people in a different age bracket especially an older age bracket may have had more experience than you and may offer you valuable insight but you crack on barking up whichever tree you want. Just don't come here for assistance and then shit on our doorsteps because you may not agree with what others say.
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She wanted to hear she was 100% right. Any opinion that differed from that was met with resistance.

She's not the first, she won't be the last.
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Posted by tiziani
I wrote a bit and then I just backspaced most of it.

OP I just don't think I can tell you anything you want to hear. There are obvious small issues there between you both that having sex/not having sex wouldn't go anywhere to confronting either way.

You've said you have a high sex drive and that sex is a big thing for you so I get why you saw the "changes in behaviour" through the eyes of sex only, but that's your side of the story. His side may have been very different, with his own reasons and some of them probably not even linked to you at all. Most times when a man has no follow through and his life is a mess it's something he's got to kick his own ass and fix. Whether or not he gets to have sex with a girlfriend or not is never going to go anywhere near to building character.

You have some stuff you're not taking responsibility for either.

Not to mention you should never really wind up on the internet writing put downs about the person you say you love. Once you find yourself in that position it's just another nail in the coffin.

And really that'll end things a lot quicker than any talks about who's body it is, and who has the right do to what. Big speeches that deflect from how you both really felt, it's lame.

My 2 cents as a man.
Thanks tiz. Your views are always helpful.
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I wrote a bit and then I just backspaced most of it.

OP I just don't think I can tell you anything you want to hear. There are obvious small issues there between you both that having sex/not having sex wouldn't go anywhere to confronting either way.

You've said you have a high sex drive and that sex is a big thing for you so I get why you saw the "changes in behaviour" through the eyes of sex only, but that's your side of the story. His side may have been very different, with his own reasons and some of them probably not even linked to you at all. Most times when a man has no follow through and his life is a mess it's something he's got to kick his own ass and fix. Whether or not he gets to have sex with a girlfriend or not is never going to go anywhere near to building character.

You have some stuff you're not taking responsibility for either.

Not to mention you should never really wind up on the internet writing put downs about the person you say you love. Once you find yourself in that position it's just another nail in the coffin.

And really that'll end things a lot quicker than any talks about who's body it is, and who has the right do to what. Big speeches that deflect from how you both really felt, it's lame.

My 2 cents as a man.
Thanks tiz. Your views are always helpful.
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Good post Tiz.
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Posted by tiziani
I wrote a bit and then I just backspaced most of it.

OP I just don't think I can tell you anything you want to hear. There are obvious small issues there between you both that having sex/not having sex wouldn't go anywhere to confronting either way.

You've said you have a high sex drive and that sex is a big thing for you so I get why you saw the "changes in behaviour" through the eyes of sex only, but that's your side of the story. His side may have been very different, with his own reasons and some of them probably not even linked to you at all. Most times when a man has no follow through and his life is a mess it's something he's got to kick his own ass and fix. Whether or not he gets to have sex with a girlfriend or not is never going to go anywhere near to building character.

You have some stuff you're not taking responsibility for either.

Not to mention you should never really wind up on the internet writing put downs about the person you say you love. Once you find yourself in that position it's just another nail in the coffin.

And really that'll end things a lot quicker than any talks about who's body it is, and who has the right do to what. Big speeches that deflect from how you both really felt, it's lame.

My 2 cents as a man.
Sorry I'm so late (not use to getting on here yet), but thanks for your advice as I'm not here looking to hear "what I want to hear."

And I believe you’re right about his side of story is not linked to me. He's pretty much told me that he a lot of things going on with him personally that has affected us but will turn around and blame me maybe because it makes him feel better… idk. I believe we both have a lot to work on hence is why I wanted to wait on certain aspects. I know I am far from perfect & at the end of the day I'm coming to grips that we just aren't meant for each other...which is okay

I don't mean to write put downs about him in a negative way but I just needed advice regarding the negatives. Not to mention everything I shared on here, I've told him multiple times before and was hoping to get some male advice, which I believe you gave me...

Thanks again!
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Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
BEST RESPONSE on this board!

I couldn't have stated it better!

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Fiona,

Here is my assessment.

You're a host of contradictions playing the victim card.

Your sex driver is higher than his, but yet you felt compelled to feel ike you were having sex with him to suit his needs.

Funny, the 8 month waiting period was your idea.

You have grown as a person, and he is not much of a challenge.

Yes, I caught that one, too.



The Earth-Earth coupling can be a strong connection, but it can also hold a mirror.

The subtle pick-ups can be transparent, even with unspoken words.

You're evolving, with unrealistic high expectations, and he's not able to catch up.

He already senses you feel this way, or always felt that way, which explains the constant indecisiveness.

The coming in and out of your life.

Bulls are insecure...so are Virgos.

The only difference, we do not project our insecurities on to other people, we internalize it, work at improving it, unfortunately for us, we distance ourselves from our partners when we quietly assess.

Some Virgos, camouglage their own insecurities through nipicking and belittling.

You could be really feeling this way, or this could be your own defense mechanism.

But he's a Bull, and he's not where he wants to be in life.

So trust me, your criticism... it's hitting him like a ton of bricks.

And then making him feel like a child by withholding the va-jay jay.

Girl please.

Women make decisions with their head and their instincts...not with their vaginas.

He's not a man-child who needs to be reprimanded.

Just a man who needs to work on himself before he considers entering any relationship.

Stop acting as if your va-jay is some trophy he gets to win at the end.

You want the Bull to grow up?

Teach him how to love. Don't control him.
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Fiona,

Here is my assessment.

You're a host of contradictions playing the victim card.

Your sex driver is higher than his, but yet you felt compelled to feel like you were having sex with him to suit his needs.

Funny, the 8 month waiting period was your idea.

You have grown as a person, and he is not much of a challenge.

Yes, I caught that one, too.



The Earth-Earth coupling can be a strong connection, but it can also hold a mirror.

The subtle pick-ups can be transparent, even with unspoken words.

You're evolving, with unrealistic high expectations, and he's not able to catch up.

He already senses you feel this way, or always felt that way, which explains the constant indecisiveness.

The coming in and out of your life.

Bulls are insecure...so are Virgos.

The only difference, we do not project our insecurities on to other people, we internalize it, work at improving it, unfortunately for us, we distance ourselves from our partners when we quietly assess.

Some Virgos, camouglage their own insecurities through nipicking and belittling.

You could be really feeling this way, or this could be your own defense mechanism.

But he's a Bull, and he's not where he wants to be in life.

So trust me, your criticism... it's hitting him like a ton of bricks.

And then making him feel like a child by withholding the va-jay jay.

Girl please.

Women make decisions with their head and their instincts...not with their vaginas.

He's not a man-child who needs to be reprimanded.

Just a man who needs to work on himself before he considers entering any relationship.

Stop acting as if your va-jay is some trophy he gets to win at the end.

You want the Bull to grow up?

Teach him how to love. Don't control him.
I really love your response. Thanks.

I am going to continue to let him go until he gets his life together.

It just sucks when he keeps returning because he comes back so damn good & I will start missing him like crazy... until I'm reminded by the past and then my wall goes up. Maybe its something i'll never get over. He took me for granted which pushed me away & like you said, all of my criticism is hitting him hard. Idk what the future holds but I am going to stop being hopeful about it & if its meant, its meant, if not then I will continue to learn from it and move forward (all I can do).

As far as the sex thing goes, I never looked at it as some "trophy," but it is something I do hold very dear to me, I don't sleep around with just anybody & when things start changing negatively I eventually shut down physically and I couldn't force it anymore. I grew insecure because of it also. I loved him deeply, in fact I never loved anyone like this before and its scary sometimes which is probably why I am so indecisive/insecure about a lot of things because I want it to be perfect. But enough of me... Thank you again for your response.
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You're welcome.

I hope I didn't come off a little too harsh 😉

I can understand your frustration, we're not difficult, but we're not always easy either.

Bulls, at times, we assume that we are giving our partners EVERYTHING.

And that should be enough....

Not realizing at times we can be quite dogmatic, stubborn, inflexible, and unyeilding.

Always wanting things on our terms, forgetting there is someone else in a relationship with us, bending and sacrificing situations to suit our needs.

There is always room for improvement....not to mention compromise.

Bulls need to understand this.

Here is my advice.

Give yourself a four month break.

Tell him how much you love him, and sacrificed for him, but for some reason, it doesn't seem to be enough.

Advise him that he needs to work on himself, first before the two of you can continue with a reconciliation.

Love is given, it's not an obligation.

If he's not secure with himself, how can he be beneficial to any relationship.

Tell him what you want and what you expect out of a relationship.

It's OK to be a little selfish with Bulls about what you want and address those needs.

We can easily tap dance all over you.

He will be sad for a little while, may get a little angry, might try to change your mind (don't budge).

Practicality will eventually kick in....with time.

He will respect your love, dedication, honesty and convictions.

He will begin to ponder, and your words will gradually sink in.

If it's meant to be, and the two of you do reconcile, trust me, he will be a better man.
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Posted by MsFiona
Finally he broke up with me for good saying that I deserve better and that he needed to get his life together.

He told me that when he gets his life together (whenever that is) that I was going to be the woman he wants to marry. He also told me that he's dated other girls and none of them compared to me.
No pussy until he makes good on these promises.
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Exactly cuz we all know women don't like sex, they only use it as a weapon. I'd be running the other way too. I mean who the fuck do you think you are telling me what needs fixing in my life.... in exchange for sex? What a turnoff.

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Posted by AgentP911
OP,

I think your approach to this relationship seriously lacks any understanding of men, and human nature in general.

The predicament you're in or was in with this guy was an arbitrary, self-imposed one.

He courted you for EIGHT months. Eight fucking months. He waited until YOU felt ready AND on YOUR terms. This doesn't strike me as a relationship based only on sex. How can it be? You didn't have any sex for the first eight months!

Relationships will settle down after a while. There will be the rough times and the smooth times.

I think you use your fanny for control purposes but pass it off as being sweet, innocent, and almost virginal. As if your fanny is so much better than another's fanny!

I think the turning point for you in this relationship was when you felt you no longer held the upper hand. When he was no longer there to court you, bring you flowers every day and all that crap you decided to bring out the ultimate fanny padlock to teach him a lesson. Your constant control of sex, that loving, intimate act to share equally between two people, and your constant narcissistic, 'me me me, it's all about me, what are you doing for me, what do I get' attitude probably made him seriously question whether he wanted to be with you... or not. You changed the deal on him.

You cut off your boyfriend from having sex with you after he waited eight months. You cut off your boyfriend's way of feeling intimate and close to you and substituted it with even more hoops he had to jump through.

Who would want a relationship like that? Would YOU be happy if boot were on the other foot? No, you wouldn't be.

Why are you surprised that he finally cut you off in return? Was it because he’s a selfish prick? No, it was because he had a girlfriend whose actions and needs were not properly aligned with his own.
Thank you for your input...



But let me get a few things straight....

Yes we waited 8 months and it was something we mutually agreed to before we got together. After we had sex he slowly start turning into a person I didn't even know I was dating. The constant break ups for no reason, the random girls in his phone, him walking in and out of my life as he pleases... everything was mentally draining. I couldn't take it and physically shut down on him... There would be times we would have sex and I would either run to restroom or turn over right after and cry myself to sleep because there was no longer any meaning and I felt forced to keep sexing him because I was putting his happiness before mines. If anything hes the selfish one. The trust was gone. He took me for complete granted because he knew I would always be there. I compromised a lot in that relationship and all I ask for this 'second' time around is that we remove sex 'TEMPORARILY' until we build a stronger foundation & work on trust and communication. It's like going through hell and high water to him...but what about the times I had to cry myself to sleep, watch him leave and come back when it pleased him, the random girls, the lies, he made me look so stupid but I am putting all that aside (that's the reason I cut sex off) so that we can possibly start over but its a problem. All he tells me is that I love you so much and you are worth the wait but excuse after excuse after excuse. He is completely selfish because if he loved me so much sex wouldnt be such a problem until we get back on the right path... that's the reason I cut it off, I didn't just randomly wake up and told him no more sex...now that would be wrong...

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yet you question us

to see if he will wait.

why continue trying?

you two dont fit well.

leave him and go on.
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Posted by MsFiona
Finally he broke up with me for good saying that I deserve better and that he needed to get his life together.

He told me that when he gets his life together (whenever that is) that I was going to be the woman he wants to marry. He also told me that he's dated other girls and none of them compared to me.
No pussy until he makes good on these promises.
Exactly cuz we all know women don't like sex, they only use it as a weapon. I'd be running the other way too. I mean who the fuck do you think you are telling me what needs fixing in my life.... in exchange for sex? What a turnoff.



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Re-read the op.

She never told him how to live his life. She was content with the relationship. He was the one to break up with her saying 'I don't deserve you' and 'I will change for you'. But he still wants to fuck her, even though he dissolved the relationship.

So yes, she should absolutely respect her boundaries and refuse to give up the kitty until he recommits to her.
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Posted by SoulOfABird
You know, you shouldn't change your morals for anyone. If you feel strongly about waiting it out, and he can't respect you, than call it quits. Because if he cant respect your wishes what's going to happen if you guys marry? How the heck are you guys going to compromise if he cant even compromise with your virtue and morals? He's no the right guy. I dont care if he's a Taurus and they want consistency and need sexual intercourse, if he loves you he needs to respect that. He needs to have control , I swear people act like they're going to die if they dont have sex ? He aint going to die for crying out loud. Dont settle if you're uncomfortable. Only you make the decisions of your virtue. No one else should.
Thanks so much for your advice. I agree 100% with every word 🙂