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I really shouldn’t be asking this because both my brothers are decent people. One, Aqua with Pisces moon, married his high school sweetheart and despite that she’s abusive, he stays by her side and doesn’t even cheat on her. My other bro, a Cap with Sag moon, when he slept around, he was in a relationship with those women or if he was single, then he had a consistent fling with someone he knew, no ONS. I’m highly discerning as well as sex isn’t end all-be all for me and can’t have sex with someone for the sake of needs. There needs to be more and plus I don’t want to contract STD.

Lately I’m coming across all these guys that sleep around with anything that has a heartbeat. I frankly don’t care about body count nor ask people about it because both men and women lie about it anyways. However, careless sex will almost always result in STDs and so I just resort to getting them tested before I engage. The question is do men discern who they have sex with? Any standard or nah? I don’t want a guy who has no standards. It’s such a turn off for me.
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I guess I would be discerning (whatever that means) if I sleep with anybody. I wanna be careful this time around unlike before in my young youth days when I didn't give a damn.

And how is she abusive to your brother? Cus it sound kinda hot to me. I'd like a woman to treat me bad, demand me to do something and if I don't do it right I pay the consequences for it. Especially if this is all done in the bedroom.

And all these sex treads. You guys need to get laid
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I guess I would be discerning (whatever that means) if I sleep with anybody. I wanna be careful this time around unlike before in my young youth days when I didn't give a damn.

And how is she abusive to your brother? Cus it sound kinda hot to me. I'd like a woman to treat me bad, demand me to do something and if I don't do it right I pay the consequences for it. Especially if this is all done in the bedroom.

And all these sex treads. You guys need to get laid


It’s not a sex thread. It’s a thread asking people if they are vigilant or just recklessly having sex, where you clearly fall in the latter category.

As for abusive, you clearly have issues. When people have these kinds of weird fetishes, you know they have childhood issues. She’s isolating him from his loved ones (fam and friends) and harming the kids in the process as well since she’s possessive over the kids even though she’s not a good attentive mother. I don’t mind mothers being possessive of their kids if they actually caring and attentive to their kids. She’s a triple Virgo and that should give some idea what I mean.
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I guess I would be discerning (whatever that means) if I sleep with anybody. I wanna be careful this time around unlike before in my young youth days when I didn't give a damn.
And how is she abusive to your brother? Cus it sound kinda hot to me. I'd like a woman to treat me bad, demand me to do something and if I don't do it right I pay the consequences for it. Especially if this is all done in the bedroom.
And all these sex treads. You guys need to get laid

It’s not a sex thread. It’s a thread asking people if they are vigilant or just recklessly having sex, where you clearly fall in the latter category.

As for abusive, you clearly have issues. When people have these kinds of weird fetishes, you know they have childhood issues. She’s isolating him from his loved ones (fam and friends) and harming the kids in the process as well since she’s possessive over the kids even though she’s not a good attentive mother. I don’t mind mothers being possessive of their kids if they actually caring and attentive to their kids. She’s a triple Virgo and that should give some idea what I mean.
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There there let's not get out of line here. That kind of abuse is just straight up torture. Especially if there's kids involved. I'm not at all for that. And a triple Virgo lady? Oh hell no! Nevermind.
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I guess I would be discerning (whatever that means) if I sleep with anybody. I wanna be careful this time around unlike before in my young youth days when I didn't give a damn.
And how is she abusive to your brother? Cus it sound kinda hot to me. I'd like a woman to treat me bad, demand me to do something and if I don't do it right I pay the consequences for it. Especially if this is all done in the bedroom.
And all these sex treads. You guys need to get laid
It’s not a sex thread. It’s a thread asking people if they are vigilant or just recklessly having sex, where you clearly fall in the latter category.
As for abusive, you clearly have issues. When people have these kinds of weird fetishes, you know they have childhood issues. She’s isolating him from his loved ones (fam and friends) and harming the kids in the process as well since she’s possessive over the kids even though she’s not a good attentive mother. I don’t mind mothers being possessive of their kids if they actually caring and attentive to their kids. She’s a triple Virgo and that should give some idea what I mean.
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There there let's not get out of line here. That kind of abuse is just straight up torture. Especially if there's kids involved. I'm not at all for that. And a triple Virgo lady? Oh hell no! Nevermind.
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Have you ever been with a triple Virgo? 😆 Share what you know about these placements.
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I guess I would be discerning (whatever that means) if I sleep with anybody. I wanna be careful this time around unlike before in my young youth days when I didn't give a damn.
And how is she abusive to your brother? Cus it sound kinda hot to me. I'd like a woman to treat me bad, demand me to do something and if I don't do it right I pay the consequences for it. Especially if this is all done in the bedroom.
And all these sex treads. You guys need to get laid
It’s not a sex thread. It’s a thread asking people if they are vigilant or just recklessly having sex, where you clearly fall in the latter category.
As for abusive, you clearly have issues. When people have these kinds of weird fetishes, you know they have childhood issues. She’s isolating him from his loved ones (fam and friends) and harming the kids in the process as well since she’s possessive over the kids even though she’s not a good attentive mother. I don’t mind mothers being possessive of their kids if they actually caring and attentive to their kids. She’s a triple Virgo and that should give some idea what I mean.
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There there let's not get out of line here. That kind of abuse is just straight up torture. Especially if there's kids involved. I'm not at all for that. And a triple Virgo lady? Oh hell no! Nevermind.

Have you ever been with a triple Virgo? 😆 Share what you know about these placements.
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Nahh Virgo being in just the sun alone is enough to make a man go bonkers. I'll pass. Hard pass at that. It's a bad experience that's all I have to say on that.
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I guess I would be discerning (whatever that means) if I sleep with anybody. I wanna be careful this time around unlike before in my young youth days when I didn't give a damn.
And how is she abusive to your brother? Cus it sound kinda hot to me. I'd like a woman to treat me bad, demand me to do something and if I don't do it right I pay the consequences for it. Especially if this is all done in the bedroom.
And all these sex treads. You guys need to get laid

That's called bdsm buddy lol
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😄 What's called bdsm?
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We have no discerning until we met a crazy one and then we have standards.

Plus it’s depend on the man.if its guys who doesn’t have options he will fuck whatever and if it’s a guy who has options he will still fuck a lot but he will choose. Sex is fun


Women are like that as well, so then why do men (don’t want to generalize) concern themselves with their body count? They polluted the pool themselves and then where are gonna be the discerning fishes?
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It really depends.

There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.

Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."

This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.
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It really depends.

There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.

Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."

This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.


I appreciate your honesty. So not even remotely concerned if she has anything down there if she has a nice body?
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.

I appreciate your honesty. So not even remotely concerned if she has anything down there if she has a nice body?
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Personally, I am concerned, and I will take a sniff while fingering. Anything off is a PH imbalance and that's where the buck stops.

Not all men do that though. There was a tiktok video or something circling like two years ago saying "gots to see it through my boy." The context was in the event that she smells unpleasant or that she had a stain in her panties. The guys are chatting in the car about a previous date of them had and he mentions the stains.
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.

Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.

My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.

I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
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What’s your Venus and mars? I believe you’re Aqua with Pisces moon, right?
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.

Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.

My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.

I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
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We're talking collectively here.

If this were true then all these butter-faces on IG wouldn't behave the way they do.
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.
Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.
My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.
I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
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What’s your Venus and mars? I believe you’re Aqua with Pisces moon, right?
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I'm aqua with Scorpio moon. Venus in Capricorn, Mars in Taurus. Virgo Asc.
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I notice water moons and Cap placements playing it safe and taking face into account. I think men who care about nice face are the most discerning in my experience. Both my bros are like you and care about face before body.
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.
Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.
My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.
I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
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We're talking collectively here.
If this were true then all these butter-faces on IG wouldn't behave the way they do.
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O yes that makes sense. That is true majority are like you mentioned. Basic bros. But then you got the equivalent for the females.
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How do you differentiate basic men from quality discerning men? Key indicators because basic men pretend they are discerning too. I have my full proof test to weed out the trash but I want your take.
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.
Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.
My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.
I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
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What’s your Venus and mars? I believe you’re Aqua with Pisces moon, right?
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I'm aqua with Scorpio moon. Venus in Capricorn, Mars in Taurus. Virgo Asc.
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I notice water moons and Cap placements playing it safe and taking face into account. I think men who care about nice face are the most discerning in my experience. Both my bros are like you and care about face before body.
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Face is important but at the same time I’ve met dosen of women with pretty face and a totally fucked up personnality, legit crazy

So now I analyse the whole package but I think a feminine attitude with a sweat voice and a fit body is a killer, face can be average/cute with that

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Most conventionally attractive women are jaded, crazy and damaged (from bouncing around from men to men) as they usually aren’t discerning either due to the significantly high number of suitors they have.
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.
Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.
My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.
I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
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What’s your Venus and mars? I believe you’re Aqua with Pisces moon, right?
click to expand
I'm aqua with Scorpio moon. Venus in Capricorn, Mars in Taurus. Virgo Asc.
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I notice water moons and Cap placements playing it safe and taking face into account. I think men who care about nice face are the most discerning in my experience. Both my bros are like you and care about face before body.
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Face is important but at the same time I’ve met dosen of women with pretty face and a totally fucked up personnality, legit crazy
So now I analyse the whole package but I think a feminine attitude with a sweat voice and a fit body is a killer, face can be average/cute with that
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The crazy ones are the 👍🔥🥵 if you can handle it.
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They are but there is nothing to handle

Pass 30 if you are still crazy u are just not interesting, grow the fuck up, society won’t hold ur hand
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Indeed the most Cap answer ever! Very practical and ain’t no Cap have time to handle a child.
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.
Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.
My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.
I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
click to expand
We're talking collectively here.
If this were true then all these butter-faces on IG wouldn't behave the way they do.
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O yes that makes sense. That is true majority are like you mentioned. Basic bros. But then you got the equivalent for the females.
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How do you differentiate basic men from quality discerning men? Key indicators because basic men pretend they are discerning too. I have my full proof test to weed out the trash but I want your take.
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I'm not sure. I can only tell from observation and little bit from my male friends. My long term close friend has been with his gf for over 10 years so no help there.

I've always wondered myself, also about the females. I am leaning towards social conditioning. Cause sexually I think we (males) all have similar needs.

Cause if you think about it people will make dumb decisions about everything, usually following and not thinking on their own. That is why there's almost always that one person that will be the one that breaks them (true love)

I've seen players fall for some unattractive (imo) people.

So basically to sum it up, we think we know what we want but in the end we go for what we need.

Also that why you will see some old players in loneliness after their prime, confused, having learned nothing except maybe sexual positions.
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Indeed very sad. Being a meretricious playboy and playgirl is being short-sighted because you’re operating on a superficial level that is fleeting. Ultimately, it’s substance to a person that wins in the end that one can potentially build while fooling around, but that is seldom the case. Love, sex, drugs in excess will naturally make you lose focus from worthy pursuits, which will ultimately make you win in the long run.

While men and women have their differences in how they approach and view sex, they aren’t all that different in how they bond via sex. There are men who get attached through sex and same goes for women. The person who gets attached is usually the one who sees the other as a catch. The decision isn’t made solely on good sex and if it does, you couldn’t be a bigger fool!
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It really depends.
There typically has to be some sort of attractive feature about her. Whether it's the butt, breasts etc. Men will then focus that specific part and block out the butter-face.
Men and women are different at the end of the day, complimentary opposites. Men don't invest into sex as much as the average woman does. There doesn't always need to be a connection and sometimes it's "she has a nice body and that's where I draw the line. I don't want anything more."
This also reflects the large population of men that can't even get a woman to orgasm. Lack of investment overall.
Na I look at face first. Facial expressions, personality.
My satisfaction comes from emotional and or romantic connection and control so physical will always be 2nd.
I like romancing and inspiring, then seeing reactions, injecting energy that way into them, then you inject the other energy.
click to expand
What’s your Venus and mars? I believe you’re Aqua with Pisces moon, right?
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I'm aqua with Scorpio moon. Venus in Capricorn, Mars in Taurus. Virgo Asc.
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I notice water moons and Cap placements playing it safe and taking face into account. I think men who care about nice face are the most discerning in my experience. Both my bros are like you and care about face before body.
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Face is important but at the same time I’ve met dosen of women with pretty face and a totally fucked up personnality, legit crazy
So now I analyse the whole package but I think a feminine attitude with a sweat voice and a fit body is a killer, face can be average/cute with that
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The crazy ones are the 👍🔥🥵 if you can handle it.
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They are but there is nothing to handle
Pass 30 if you are still crazy u are just not interesting, grow the fuck up, society won’t hold ur hand
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Indeed the most Cap answer ever! Very practical and ain’t no Cap have time to handle a child.
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yep at 30 you arent a child anymore, it's isnt cute or sad. it's just a weird way of narcissism;
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I have no Cap in me but I find that equally cringy when I see 30 plus men behaving like Peter Pan and don’t have their shit together and going after juvenile kids. I can’t imagine a level-headed practical man going after a younger childish woman.
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yeah i’m discerning. i can’t bring myself to sleep with just anyone cuz i feel like if i sleep with someone who has a bad reputation around town for example (promiscuous, party girl, no manners etc) that shit is gonna reflect badly on me. i dunno if that sounds stuck up i hope not but yeah. i’m a leo rising so i care about my image a lot. also, i’m just not attracted to people who are “easy”. like, i don’t see what’s so flattering/exhilarating about bedding someone who sleeps with pretty much anyone or bedding someone that nobody really wants at the end of the day.
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yeah i’m discerning. i can’t bring myself to sleep with just anyone cuz i feel like if i sleep with someone who has a bad reputation around town for example (promiscuous, party girl, no manners etc) that shit is gonna reflect badly on me. i dunno if that sounds stuck up i hope not but yeah. i’m a leo rising so i care about my image a lot. also, i’m just not attracted to people who are “easy”. like, i don’t see what’s so flattering/exhilarating about bedding someone who sleeps with pretty much anyone or bedding someone that nobody really wants at the end of the day.


I said it before but you’re a male version of me except nicer. Lol
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.

But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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Real niggas shouldn’t be trying to find a good girl when they have been bad themselves. It boggles my mind when I see a guy who slept around (because we’ve learned in this thread that men are not discerning and sleep around a lot) asking for a woman who hasn’t slept around that much. As a woman who hasn’t slept around that much and has discerned quite a bit, why would I want all these non-discerning entitled and hypocritical trash buckets? Why is a woman who is just like them and slept around isn’t good enough? Please, save the hypocrisy for someone who cares. Ultimately, entitled philanderers end up with undercover promiscuous woman.
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Because most likely the girls who sleep around odee most likely will stay that way. She not bout to become a housewife. That's why the saying can't turn a ho into a housewife exists. I don't care about a girl's body count and real dudes don't care about a girl's body count that's not what I was getting at but I hear you..
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Same applies to a philandering scumbag. He ain’t changing either. Can’t turn a scumbag into a prince.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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And no real niggas ain’t trying to find a good girl. Rather, they are trying to bang as many chicks irrespective of anything. Guys and girls who discern are far and few. People would be happier if they stop finding people who behave just like them beneath them.
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That's not a real nigga. That's someone else like a real dude is a real dude plain and simple. I'm not talkin about promiscuous people.
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The real dudes, as I said, are far and few and they know who they are.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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And no real niggas ain’t trying to find a good girl. Rather, they are trying to bang as many chicks irrespective of anything. Guys and girls who discern are far and few. People would be happier if they stop finding people who behave just like them beneath them.
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That's not a real nigga. That's someone else like a real dude is a real dude plain and simple. I'm not talkin about promiscuous people.
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The real dudes, as I said, are far and few and they know who they are.
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Rare gems

Although I’ve been blessed to know a few
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When I was overwhelmed with emotion and trying to "get back" at someone is when I was being the most reckless with sex. I would ask if they would be okay getting tested before we did, and if they said yes that was pretty much as much trust as I needed to have sex raw.

Fucking almost whoever I could. Didn't make me feel better. Made me feel worse.


Yep! Aimlessly having excessive sex all because it’s fun and inconsequential also makes one distrustful and resentful of the opposite gender. This goes both for men and women. Hence the jaded and bitter folks.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
click to expand
You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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Real niggas shouldn’t be trying to find a good girl when they have been bad themselves. It boggles my mind when I see a guy who slept around (because we’ve learned in this thread that men are not discerning and sleep around a lot) asking for a woman who hasn’t slept around that much. As a woman who hasn’t slept around that much and has discerned quite a bit, why would I want all these non-discerning entitled and hypocritical trash buckets? Why is a woman who is just like them and slept around isn’t good enough? Please, save the hypocrisy for someone who cares. Ultimately, entitled philanderers end up with undercover promiscuous woman.
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its not about hypocrisy, if he has options he took the best one.

i'm lazy i'm full blackpilled atm
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I don’t care what pill you’re on. It is hypocrisy when you want and seek what you aren’t yourself. It’s about wanting something good. Almost everyone is guilty of it but it’s straight entitlement. If you get it, it’s sheer luck. Otherwise you’re ending up with what you are yourself.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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Real niggas shouldn’t be trying to find a good girl when they have been bad themselves. It boggles my mind when I see a guy who slept around (because we’ve learned in this thread that men are not discerning and sleep around a lot) asking for a woman who hasn’t slept around that much. As a woman who hasn’t slept around that much and has discerned quite a bit, why would I want all these non-discerning entitled and hypocritical trash buckets? Why is a woman who is just like them and slept around isn’t good enough? Please, save the hypocrisy for someone who cares. Ultimately, entitled philanderers end up with undercover promiscuous woman.
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its not about hypocrisy, if he has options he took the best one.
i'm lazy i'm full blackpilled atm
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I don’t care what pill you’re on. It is hypocrisy when you want and seek what you aren’t yourself. It’s about wanting something good. Almost everyone is guilty of it but it’s straight entitlement. If you get it, it’s sheer luck. Otherwise you’re ending up with what you are yourself.
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its not luck if a guys has options he take he best options thats it, its neither hypocrisy or whatever you mad at reality idk
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It happens all the time but it’s entirely luck where the person gives that entitled person a chance because of some deficiency like low self-esteem or desperation. Anyone with self-awareness and who knows their worth wouldn’t.
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When I was overwhelmed with emotion and trying to "get back" at someone is when I was being the most reckless with sex. I would ask if they would be okay getting tested before we did, and if they said yes that was pretty much as much trust as I needed to have sex raw.
Fucking almost whoever I could. Didn't make me feel better. Made me feel worse.
Yep! Aimlessly having excessive sex all because it’s fun and inconsequential also makes one distrustful and resentful of the opposite gender. This goes both for men and women. Hence the jaded and bitter folks.
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sex is fun when well performed and when the two partners are adult, but very very rare when someone doesnt catch feelings i feel only pornstar can achieve that and i'm not even sure
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Fun at the expense of your mental wellness is not worth it!!! But who really has that kind of foresight? People usually burn their hand and then learn. Some never learn.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.

how a theory can be a revenge ? no sense. most of the good looking guy are blackpilled.

the real question is does she deserve a better man than Dave ?
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Becky in her scenario is also entitled but if Dave gives her a chance because of some lack of worth or he wants to base his marriage entirely on the looks factor and some redeeming quality of Becky’s, then she can get Dave. It applies both ways. Brandon can get a good woman too if the good woman is lacking in something and is willing to make that compromise for Brandon’s redeeming qualities.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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Real niggas shouldn’t be trying to find a good girl when they have been bad themselves. It boggles my mind when I see a guy who slept around (because we’ve learned in this thread that men are not discerning and sleep around a lot) asking for a woman who hasn’t slept around that much. As a woman who hasn’t slept around that much and has discerned quite a bit, why would I want all these non-discerning entitled and hypocritical trash buckets? Why is a woman who is just like them and slept around isn’t good enough? Please, save the hypocrisy for someone who cares. Ultimately, entitled philanderers end up with undercover promiscuous woman.
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its not about hypocrisy, if he has options he took the best one.
i'm lazy i'm full blackpilled atm
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I don’t care what pill you’re on. It is hypocrisy when you want and seek what you aren’t yourself. It’s about wanting something good. Almost everyone is guilty of it but it’s straight entitlement. If you get it, it’s sheer luck. Otherwise you’re ending up with what you are yourself.
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its not luck if a guys has options he take he best options thats it, its neither hypocrisy or whatever you mad at reality idk
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It happens all the time but it’s entirely luck where the person gives that entitled person a chance because of some deficiency like low self-esteem or desperation. Anyone with self-awareness and who knows their worth wouldn’t.
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a dude who fucked a lot kind of doesnt care, he wants a family and he will take a girls who wants kids early there isnt something crazy about low self esteem or self awareness, the dude want a family

he doesnt even have fun picking hot chick and yes most of the time she'll be younger than him or wtv
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Then, this newly reformed fuckboy ends up miserable because his priority was “young fertile woman who will give him kids” and no companionship. My point was if the young 20 yr old gives the 40 yr old fuckboi a chance, it will be because she’s lacking in something: maturity, self esteem or needs money which the 40 yr old would have. Otherwise, she wouldn’t consider someone that much older. It’s all transactional; hence the misery.
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When I was overwhelmed with emotion and trying to "get back" at someone is when I was being the most reckless with sex. I would ask if they would be okay getting tested before we did, and if they said yes that was pretty much as much trust as I needed to have sex raw.
Fucking almost whoever I could. Didn't make me feel better. Made me feel worse.
Yep! Aimlessly having excessive sex all because it’s fun and inconsequential also makes one distrustful and resentful of the opposite gender. This goes both for men and women. Hence the jaded and bitter folks.
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sex is fun when well performed and when the two partners are adult, but very very rare when someone doesnt catch feelings i feel only pornstar can achieve that and i'm not even sure
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Fun at the expense of your mental wellness is not worth it!!! But who really has that kind of foresight? People usually burn their hand and then learn. Some never learn.
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u way too dramatic, its called a lover. u can have sex with someone without being destroyed mentally, like a love on holiday? it wont change anything u'll just experienced pure fun
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How old are you? You’re pretty juvenile for simplifying and romanticizing sex and implications of frivolous sex. Kinda like getting your holiday fling pregnant or attached. LMAO. 🤣
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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Real niggas shouldn’t be trying to find a good girl when they have been bad themselves. It boggles my mind when I see a guy who slept around (because we’ve learned in this thread that men are not discerning and sleep around a lot) asking for a woman who hasn’t slept around that much. As a woman who hasn’t slept around that much and has discerned quite a bit, why would I want all these non-discerning entitled and hypocritical trash buckets? Why is a woman who is just like them and slept around isn’t good enough? Please, save the hypocrisy for someone who cares. Ultimately, entitled philanderers end up with undercover promiscuous woman.
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its not about hypocrisy, if he has options he took the best one.
i'm lazy i'm full blackpilled atm
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I don’t care what pill you’re on. It is hypocrisy when you want and seek what you aren’t yourself. It’s about wanting something good. Almost everyone is guilty of it but it’s straight entitlement. If you get it, it’s sheer luck. Otherwise you’re ending up with what you are yourself.
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its not luck if a guys has options he take he best options thats it, its neither hypocrisy or whatever you mad at reality idk
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It happens all the time but it’s entirely luck where the person gives that entitled person a chance because of some deficiency like low self-esteem or desperation. Anyone with self-awareness and who knows their worth wouldn’t.
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a dude who fucked a lot kind of doesnt care, he wants a family and he will take a girls who wants kids early there isnt something crazy about low self esteem or self awareness, the dude want a family
he doesnt even have fun picking hot chick and yes most of the time she'll be younger than him or wtv
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Then, this newly reformed fuckboy ends up miserable because his priority was “young fertile woman who will give him kids” and no companionship. My point was if the young 20 yr old gives the 40 yr old fuckboi a chance, it will be because she’s lacking in something: maturity, self esteem or needs money which the 40 yr old would have. Otherwise, she wouldn’t consider someone that much older. It’s all transactional; hence the misery.
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fuckboy is just a phase and at 40 i think he had way enough fun, but i mostly see 20/25 with 30/35.

girls who want a family early have low self esteem ? crazy statements.

the girls i've met who wanted a family very early where child of divorce and their revenge was to have a loving family and being a good mom, Very noble goal. she know herself, what she want. HIGH self esteem.

guys who want family in early between 25 and 30, are blue collars man. Very stable guy and respectable sometimes women disdain them, my friend is a truck driver and earn the same money than me as a dev CRAZY, FUCK coding tho.
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You don’t know how to read is all I realized from this. I never said women who want to settle down young have self esteem issues. I’m 100% certain you’re based in some 3rd world village based on your level of thinking to be promoting young marriages. It is a fact that people don’t know anything about what they want in their 20s, you’re still mentally developing. It’s actually a good time to discover yourself, not get married and have kids. Secondly, it’s a fact that most men and women have self-worth issues otherwise Snapchat, onlyfans and Instagram wouldn’t be swarming witj all these people. Truly confident people don’t seek attention like that. You also don’t understand the irony of men and women, they want what society feeds them rather than thinking independently and accepting their individuality. Society feeds one size fits all garbage hence why we can’t accept people who deviate from the norm. You have shown me what basic level thinker you are. Thanks but this convo is over.
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When I was overwhelmed with emotion and trying to "get back" at someone is when I was being the most reckless with sex. I would ask if they would be okay getting tested before we did, and if they said yes that was pretty much as much trust as I needed to have sex raw.
Fucking almost whoever I could. Didn't make me feel better. Made me feel worse.
Yep! Aimlessly having excessive sex all because it’s fun and inconsequential also makes one distrustful and resentful of the opposite gender. This goes both for men and women. Hence the jaded and bitter folks.
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sex is fun when well performed and when the two partners are adult, but very very rare when someone doesnt catch feelings i feel only pornstar can achieve that and i'm not even sure
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Fun at the expense of your mental wellness is not worth it!!! But who really has that kind of foresight? People usually burn their hand and then learn. Some never learn.
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u way too dramatic, its called a lover. u can have sex with someone without being destroyed mentally, like a love on holiday? it wont change anything u'll just experienced pure fun
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How old are you? You’re pretty juvenile for simplifying and romanticizing sex and implications of frivolous sex. Kinda like getting your holiday fling pregnant or attached. LMAO. 🤣
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you just indirectly said to me that u never had a lover during holiday.. you want make fun of me, but objectivly i just found your life sad tbh.


So you go on holiday there is that sexy italian dude greek or whatever talk to you,

your reaction whould be? NO DONT TALK TO ME, U WANT TO STEAL MY BODY AND IM MIGHT END PREGNANT ?

im 32 ? now my turn are you an actual virgin ? yes good sex without getting married or in couple exist,
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No, I don’t engage in reckless sex with a sexy stranger and that isn’t sad. That’s called prudence. You, however, are juvenile and are incapable of understanding the perils of engaging sexually with randos. It could also be men aren’t exposed to the same level of danger.
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I’ve only ever see men bring up hypergamy as some sort of revenge fetish fantasy against women who won’t give them the time of day. The truth is that we are hierarchical creatures. Becky might be a cashier at a grocery store but she doesn’t want Brandon the cashier, she wants Dave the store manager. It’s not that crazy. If she did pick the cashier and they end up in poverty because Brandon can’t support a family on a cashier salary people will say she should have picked a better man.
But the point is if there wasn't a hierarchal society that your people started in the first place there would be no need for girls to judge dudes for how much money they make so they can live good. The government has enough money to give food, water, and shelter to everybody and never go hungry and yet we have homeless people all over the world. We should be able to fly wherever we want and buy whatever we want and love healthy but because of you are people it's not like that so you gotta understand like, a girl will choose the hottest guy if money wasn't a factor I hope you know dat like fr and in a perfect world I would like to think they would even choose a guy based how good of a person he is but.. idk about the dat really...
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People who get into relationship for transactional reasons are the most unhappy couples. For example, men who marry solely for looks or men or who marry women good on paper and not the bad chick they had compatibility with over their shared bad habits are miserable in their marriages. Women who marry men solely for financial stability are miserable. Money doesn’t buy happiness. There’s just so much shopping you’re going to do or the well-off dude may not be good in bed so you’re thinking of your ex who had an average job but you ditched him for a better off guy. I’ve observed this in real life since I was a kid; and therefore I refuse to date/marry someone for transactional reasons.
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That's why I been tellin u and the girls kinda stressing to ya to not be so superficial because u might end up with a bad time just because a dude has the ability to do stuff and have their shit together which is bare minmum anyway..
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You don’t need to give me wisdom. I’m light years ahead and know that people should be marrying for compatibility and not the garbage society is feeding them. Most men and women are equally dumb and marry for superficial reasons. As for as I’m concerned, they deserve their misery because it was their choice. Reddit is filled with stories like “I married her because she was good on paper and ditched that girl who used to smoke with me and sleep around and now I miss her because my wife is boring and I have nothing in common with the good girl wife.”
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But it really depends on the maturity of the dude. That's not gospel that a dude gets with a good girl will think she boring and want to cuff the whore. I don't know like Im from the Bronx. we love women fr that seem like more like regular dudes you know? like college frat boy type dudes they be heavy on that she gotta be a certain way and shit.. real niggas we be tryna find a good girl fr that's wat we on
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Real niggas shouldn’t be trying to find a good girl when they have been bad themselves. It boggles my mind when I see a guy who slept around (because we’ve learned in this thread that men are not discerning and sleep around a lot) asking for a woman who hasn’t slept around that much. As a woman who hasn’t slept around that much and has discerned quite a bit, why would I want all these non-discerning entitled and hypocritical trash buckets? Why is a woman who is just like them and slept around isn’t good enough? Please, save the hypocrisy for someone who cares. Ultimately, entitled philanderers end up with undercover promiscuous woman.
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its not about hypocrisy, if he has options he took the best one.
i'm lazy i'm full blackpilled atm
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I don’t care what pill you’re on. It is hypocrisy when you want and seek what you aren’t yourself. It’s about wanting something good. Almost everyone is guilty of it but it’s straight entitlement. If you get it, it’s sheer luck. Otherwise you’re ending up with what you are yourself.
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its not luck if a guys has options he take he best options thats it, its neither hypocrisy or whatever you mad at reality idk
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It happens all the time but it’s entirely luck where the person gives that entitled person a chance because of some deficiency like low self-esteem or desperation. Anyone with self-awareness and who knows their worth wouldn’t.
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a dude who fucked a lot kind of doesnt care, he wants a family and he will take a girls who wants kids early there isnt something crazy about low self esteem or self awareness, the dude want a family
he doesnt even have fun picking hot chick and yes most of the time she'll be younger than him or wtv
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Then, this newly reformed fuckboy ends up miserable because his priority was “young fertile woman who will give him kids” and no companionship. My point was if the young 20 yr old gives the 40 yr old fuckboi a chance, it will be because she’s lacking in something: maturity, self esteem or needs money which the 40 yr old would have. Otherwise, she wouldn’t consider someone that much older. It’s all transactional; hence the misery.
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fuckboy is just a phase and at 40 i think he had way enough fun, but i mostly see 20/25 with 30/35.
girls who want a family early have low self esteem ? crazy statements.
the girls i've met who wanted a family very early where child of divorce and their revenge was to have a loving family and being a good mom, Very noble goal. she know herself, what she want. HIGH self esteem.
guys who want family in early between 25 and 30, are blue collars man. Very stable guy and respectable sometimes women disdain them, my friend is a truck driver and earn the same money than me as a dev CRAZY, FUCK coding tho.
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You don’t know how to read is all I realized from this. I never said women who want to settle down young have self esteem issues. I’m 100% certain you’re based in some 3rd world village based on your level of thinking to be promoting young marriages. It is a fact that people don’t know anything about what they want in their 20s, you’re still mentally developing. It’s actually a good time to discover yourself, not get married and have kids. Secondly, it’s a fact that most men and women have self-worth issues otherwise Snapchat, onlyfans and Instagram wouldn’t be swarming witj all these people. Truly confident people don’t seek attention like that. You also don’t understand the irony of men and women, they want what society feeds them rather than thinking independently and accepting their individuality. Society feeds one size fits all garbage hence why we can’t accept people who deviate from the norm. You have shown me what basic level thinker you are. Thanks but this convo is over.
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do fucking paragraph, its just horrible to read.

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I’ll do paragraphs when you learn to write properly and use punctuation.
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When I was overwhelmed with emotion and trying to "get back" at someone is when I was being the most reckless with sex. I would ask if they would be okay getting tested before we did, and if they said yes that was pretty much as much trust as I needed to have sex raw.
Fucking almost whoever I could. Didn't make me feel better. Made me feel worse.
Yep! Aimlessly having excessive sex all because it’s fun and inconsequential also makes one distrustful and resentful of the opposite gender. This goes both for men and women. Hence the jaded and bitter folks.
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sex is fun when well performed and when the two partners are adult, but very very rare when someone doesnt catch feelings i feel only pornstar can achieve that and i'm not even sure
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Fun at the expense of your mental wellness is not worth it!!! But who really has that kind of foresight? People usually burn their hand and then learn. Some never learn.
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u way too dramatic, its called a lover. u can have sex with someone without being destroyed mentally, like a love on holiday? it wont change anything u'll just experienced pure fun
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How old are you? You’re pretty juvenile for simplifying and romanticizing sex and implications of frivolous sex. Kinda like getting your holiday fling pregnant or attached. LMAO. 🤣
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you just indirectly said to me that u never had a lover during holiday.. you want make fun of me, but objectivly i just found your life sad tbh.

So you go on holiday there is that sexy italian dude greek or whatever talk to you,
your reaction whould be? NO DONT TALK TO ME, U WANT TO STEAL MY BODY AND IM MIGHT END PREGNANT ?
im 32 ? now my turn are you an actual virgin ? yes good sex without getting married or in couple exist,
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No, I don’t engage in reckless sex with a sexy stranger and that isn’t sad. That’s called prudence. You, however, are juvenile and are incapable of understanding the perils of engaging sexually with randos. It could also be men aren’t exposed to the same level of danger.
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your life is ruled by fear, it's horrible.
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Just LOL @ your careless perception on life. I’ve seen first-hand what recklessness gets people. My life wouldn’t have turned out as stable and solid as it is if I was living the careless life. “Live a little and get yourself killed or raped. One or the other. At least you would have lived and had fun.” You make it sound like living a prudent life = unhappy and boring/knitting a sweater in a corner. So juvenile at 32. You were criticizing women acting childish in their 30s but meanwhile look at your thinking. Goes to show your double-standards. Very typical Capricorn again.
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You’re good looking, so what? What do looks have anything to do with opportunity? You think unattractive people aren’t getting laid or married? Just LoL.

I’m so baffled! How do you possibly have such childish and juvenile thinking at 32? I legit thought I was talking to some 20 yr old who would be fine saying these things. Damn shame!

“Go get your heart broken, jaded and bitter” said no level-headed person. Go assess why there’s so many jaded and bitter folks out there. Hint: ironically, these people lived by your philosophy of carefree. All my carefree player friends are the most bitter and resentful about the opposite gender. Sex is fun but if it’s coming at the expense of your physical, mental and emotional well-being, hellllllllll noooooo!
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When I was overwhelmed with emotion and trying to "get back" at someone is when I was being the most reckless with sex. I would ask if they would be okay getting tested before we did, and if they said yes that was pretty much as much trust as I needed to have sex raw.
Fucking almost whoever I could. Didn't make me feel better. Made me feel worse.
Yep! Aimlessly having excessive sex all because it’s fun and inconsequential also makes one distrustful and resentful of the opposite gender. This goes both for men and women. Hence the jaded and bitter folks.
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sex is fun when well performed and when the two partners are adult, but very very rare when someone doesnt catch feelings i feel only pornstar can achieve that and i'm not even sure
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Fun at the expense of your mental wellness is not worth it!!! But who really has that kind of foresight? People usually burn their hand and then learn. Some never learn.
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u way too dramatic, its called a lover. u can have sex with someone without being destroyed mentally, like a love on holiday? it wont change anything u'll just experienced pure fun
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How old are you? You’re pretty juvenile for simplifying and romanticizing sex and implications of frivolous sex. Kinda like getting your holiday fling pregnant or attached. LMAO. 🤣
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you just indirectly said to me that u never had a lover during holiday.. you want make fun of me, but objectivly i just found your life sad tbh.

So you go on holiday there is that sexy italian dude greek or whatever talk to you,
your reaction whould be? NO DONT TALK TO ME, U WANT TO STEAL MY BODY AND IM MIGHT END PREGNANT ?
im 32 ? now my turn are you an actual virgin ? yes good sex without getting married or in couple exist,
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No, I don’t engage in reckless sex with a sexy stranger and that isn’t sad. That’s called prudence. You, however, are juvenile and are incapable of understanding the perils of engaging sexually with randos. It could also be men aren’t exposed to the same level of danger.
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your life is ruled by fear, it's horrible.
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Just LOL @ your careless perception on life. I’ve seen first-hand what recklessness gets people. My life wouldn’t have turned out as stable and solid as it is if I was living the careless life. “Live a little and get yourself killed or raped. One or the other. At least you would have lived and had fun.” You make it sound like living a prudent life = unhappy and boring/knitting a sweater in a corner. So juvenile at 32. You were criticizing women acting childish in their 30s but meanwhile look at your thinking. Goes to show your double-standards. Very typical Capricorn again.
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Life is unfair and full of double standard, i accept them and i dont care. U mad at reality and u have weird fear.

Yes going outside having fun meeting people, having sex or not having sex is fun. life is about people.

U knitted a wonderful pullover? great so what ? u have nobody to shares it ?


and stop being mad, i'm not mad at you i dont care' i'm not even arguing with you, just take your time and stop writing walls of text paragraph plz


why are you so scared about life ? like whats wrong with you ? talk to me what happened ? u so affraid its crazy for real'

yeah if u are a women of 30 and you actually want a family marriage or whatever having sex with an escort boy is tottaly crazy.

but its legit the same for man, i dont even recommand to fell in love with your escort, tottaly braindead move.

yeah that virgal perfectionist is crazy stupid to me

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What are you picturing about me because I choose to live a prudent life? Unhappy, sad, sitting in a corner crying, not meeting new people, not travelling, complaining or whining?

Getting raped, getting killed are all real fears. Stop minimizing real life dangers. I also happen to care about my health, which is my greatest wealth and the only thing that makes me unhappy is when I get ill. You think someone who cares about their health will engage in frivolous sex with strangers/ONS.
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