Do you prefer your woman who

Is high-maintenance or low-maintenance?

High-maintenance like basically use pricey products that serve the better qualities of skincare or make-ups, go to salon many times for hair-do/coloring, or spa for facial/body care, basically guaranteed to look prime at most times.

To do those things can cost a lot, btw!

Or low-maintenance who don't take those things above mentioned to be a priority so she will be fine going to salon and have a basic hair-cut or creambath, and have facial once every 2 months perhaps and buy skin or make up products that don't cost much.

Tell me your reason why.

Do you think it's necessary for women to have high-maintenance of her looks?

What is your view, as a man, on this matter?

Here is my last question, what do you think is the other or underlying (or perhaps even psychological) reason behind women who is high-maintenance?

(Take out reason like: take good care of oneself, or love oneself to answer the last question please).

As a man I like to say I'm a high maintenance one except I don't frequent beauty salons but feel I need to. I like lotioning up myself for a nice soft clean golden caramel skintone and talk about face, I'm high maintenance on that so therefore I like a woman to like a high maintenance man such as myself but I like low maintenance women who's not ashame to be seen in public clean with no make up and powder. Tattoos and pierced jewelries is a-ok as long as they ain't too pierced up like all holey up.

I like mid maintenance.

I don't honestly care what people want to do to feel secure and happy about themselves. Assuming its legal and somewhat moral. Like I don't mind if a woman wears minimal to no make-up, or if she wants to go all out. Personally I prefer little to no make-up, and deeply like woman who are comfortable and secure when looking natural, but I won't pretend like make-up and stuff doesn't look appealing.

I probably couldn't be with a woman with 0 maintenance though. I'm sure that could be defined in many ways, but to me 0 maintenance would be a woman who doesn't shower, have any type of hygiene, and doesn't care about appearance or health whatsoever.

I'm a very minimalist type of person. I've also been single for so long that people in general don't need to do anything special to please me. Just be a human with decent morals, and not fully gullible to all the world's nonsense. I don't expect people to be perfect, but just human. In fact I actually like specific flaws in people. It makes them unique and different in a good way imo.

It really depends if you have the financial means. If you have that, you have the choice, if you don't you only have 1 choice and that is low-maintenance.

I value authenticity above anything.

Honestly if its just us, there is nothing sexier to me than a woman in a sweatshirt, no bra, sweats, no makeup at all, hair in a ponytail, just comfortable. But the main thing is the comfortable part, so if they need to fix their hair, or cover something up to feel comfortable, im cool with that too.

Im not into high maintenance all the time. But I really dont mind either. Id say what I love the most is a woman who changes her look fairly often.. she doesnt have a trademark look, she experiments on herself. I view it as confidence. Theyre not all going to be winning looks, but they're willing to try. Going from a grunge look and Misfits shirt, to a white cotton dress or something innocent looking is kinda sexy in my eyes.

At the end of the day, happiness is the sexiest thing a woman can wear. It can light up the room.

Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
As a man I like to say I'm a high maintenance one except I don't frequent beauty salons but feel I need to. I like lotioning up myself for a nice soft clean golden caramel skintone and talk about face, I'm high maintenance on that so therefore I like a woman to like a high maintenance man such as myself but I like low maintenance women who's not ashame to be seen in public clean with no make up and powder. Tattoos and pierced jewelries is a-ok as long as they ain't too pierced up like all holey up.

Hygiene is a must. Yes, I understand how being high maintenance requires having another person being one too. Men who have for example, nose hair reflects low to no maintenance and they don't have much appeal. Same goes with men who have braids, sideburns or beard but they look unwashed, or trimmed regularly don't look good at all.

Posted by Soul
I like mid maintenance.

I don't honestly care what people want to do to feel secure and happy about themselves. Assuming its legal and somewhat moral. Like I don't mind if a woman wears minimal to no make-up, or if she wants to go all out. Personally I prefer little to no make-up, and deeply like woman who are comfortable and secure when looking natural, but I won't pretend like make-up and stuff doesn't look appealing.

I probably couldn't be with a woman with 0 maintenance though. I'm sure that could be defined in many ways, but to me 0 maintenance would be a woman who doesn't shower, have any type of hygiene, and doesn't care about appearance or health whatsoever.

I'm a very minimalist type of person. I've also been single for so long that people in general don't need to do anything special to please me. Just be a human with decent morals, and not fully gullible to all the world's nonsense. I don't expect people to be perfect, but just human. In fact I actually like specific flaws in people. It makes them unique and different in a good way imo.

Mid maintenance sounds good, not too much nor too little. Just being neat and clean. But it doesn't hurt either to go have treatments with budget.

I don't necessarily think women with high maintenance do it because of any social norms but more so to take a really good care of themselves. Appearance can help with confidence, I must say.

High maintenance.

Nah.

Insecurities, usually many.

Posted by SadHatter
I value authenticity above anything.

Honestly if its just us, there is nothing sexier to me than a woman in a sweatshirt, no bra, sweats, no makeup at all, hair in a ponytail, just comfortable. But the main thing is the comfortable part, so if they need to fix their hair, or cover something up to feel comfortable, im cool with that too.

Im not into high maintenance all the time. But I really dont mind either. Id say what I love the most is a woman who changes her look fairly often.. she doesnt have a trademark look, she experiments on herself. I view it as confidence. Theyre not all going to be winning looks, but they're willing to try. Going from a grunge look and Misfits shirt, to a white cotton dress or something innocent looking is kinda sexy in my eyes.

At the end of the day, happiness is the sexiest thing a woman can wear. It can light up the room.

I think sweat won't cause too much odor if the food intake is good.

So for you it's less about maintenance but more so what make your woman feel comfortable with.

Posted by Whynn
Is high-maintenance or low-maintenance?

High-maintenance like basically use pricey products that serve the better qualities of skincare or make-ups, go to salon many times for hair-do/coloring, or spa for facial/body care, basically guaranteed to look prime at most times.

To do those things can cost a lot, btw!

Or low-maintenance who don't take those things above mentioned to be a priority so she will be fine going to salon and have a basic hair-cut or creambath, and have facial once every 2 months perhaps and buy skin or make up products that don't cost much.

Tell me your reason why.

Do you think it's necessary for women to have high-maintenance of her looks?

What is your view, as a man, on this matter?

Here is my last question, what do you think is the other or underlying (or perhaps even psychological) reason behind women who is high-maintenance?

(Take out reason like: take good care of oneself, or love oneself to answer the last question please).

For me I wouldn’t say so much as high maintenance but I do like my woman to look after herself most of the time.

My partner for instance she uses skin care products everyday but rarely wears makeup only on night outs. Not that she needs it anyway.

She will sometimes have her nails done but then will go months with broken ones she will not worry to much about having her hair up and not done but then will have it done the next day.

She will wear joggers with trainers and hoodie then all of a sudden have jeans and boots on lol

I’m cool with that it’s whatever works for her to be honest.

Posted by Whynn

Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
As a man I like to say I'm a high maintenance one except I don't frequent beauty salons but feel I need to. I like lotioning up myself for a nice soft clean golden caramel skintone and talk about face, I'm high maintenance on that so therefore I like a woman to like a high maintenance man such as myself but I like low maintenance women who's not ashame to be seen in public clean with no make up and powder. Tattoos and pierced jewelries is a-ok as long as they ain't too pierced up like all holey up.

Hygiene is a must. Yes, I understand how being high maintenance requires having another person being one too. Men who have for example, nose hair reflects low to no maintenance and they don't have much appeal. Same goes with men who have braids, sideburns or beard but they look unwashed, or trimmed regularly don't look good at all.

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Now see that's the biggest problem I suffer greatly from. Fucking nose hair. I have to keep cutting my nose hair with a nose trimmer seem like every other day or so. It gets frustrating. I been cut off my sideburns long ago. I even had some facial hair but it didn't last long before I decided to go clean shaven again. Beards are hard to maintain I swear.

Also when I say I like low maintenance women I don't mean I like em with no class and don't mean I like em dirty who don't take care of themselves. I just don't like women who get too carried away with it and put more attention to themselves while ignoring our relationship which suppose to be 50/50 from what I always thought. Like let's say for instance they put in too much work on their physique when in actuality their body weigh and size already look splendid. Don't women know men like plus size women?

Posted by VenusStellium7
It really depends if you have the financial means. If you have that, you have the choice, if you don't you only have 1 choice and that is low-maintenance.

Yeah but there are ways like body scrub or hair creambath at home you can do yourself.. but like 7 steps nighttime face care routine can be cut down (or at least it's just me)

Posted by WarAngel79
High maintenance.

Nah.

Insecurities, usually many.

Insecurities may be a factor but it can also reflect self-respect too right for you to treat your body very well.

It's just perhaps since high-maintenance can cost a lot, just do with what you can afford.

But really food and level of happiness can do more too.

Posted by Archer12

Posted by Whynn
Is high-maintenance or low-maintenance?

High-maintenance like basically use pricey products that serve the better qualities of skincare or make-ups, go to salon many times for hair-do/coloring, or spa for facial/body care, basically guaranteed to look prime at most times.

To do those things can cost a lot, btw!

Or low-maintenance who don't take those things above mentioned to be a priority so she will be fine going to salon and have a basic hair-cut or creambath, and have facial once every 2 months perhaps and buy skin or make up products that don't cost much.

Tell me your reason why.

Do you think it's necessary for women to have high-maintenance of her looks?

What is your view, as a man, on this matter?

Here is my last question, what do you think is the other or underlying (or perhaps even psychological) reason behind women who is high-maintenance?

(Take out reason like: take good care of oneself, or love oneself to answer the last question please).

For me I wouldn’t say so much as high maintenance but I do like my woman to look after herself most of the time.

My partner for instance she uses skin care products everyday but rarely wears makeup only on night outs. Not that she needs it anyway.

She will sometimes have her nails done but then will go months with broken ones she will not worry to much about having her hair up and not done but then will have it done the next day.

She will wear joggers with trainers and hoodie then all of a sudden have jeans and boots on lol

I’m cool with that it’s whatever works for her to be honest.

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So she is not taking it overboard. That sounds nice. But tbh I don't get it with having nails done other than manicure and pedicure. Especially those decorated long nails, makes it hard to grab something with your hand lol

Posted by Whynn

Posted by Archer12

Posted by Whynn
Is high-maintenance or low-maintenance?

High-maintenance like basically use pricey products that serve the better qualities of skincare or make-ups, go to salon many times for hair-do/coloring, or spa for facial/body care, basically guaranteed to look prime at most times.

To do those things can cost a lot, btw!

Or low-maintenance who don't take those things above mentioned to be a priority so she will be fine going to salon and have a basic hair-cut or creambath, and have facial once every 2 months perhaps and buy skin or make up products that don't cost much.

Tell me your reason why.

Do you think it's necessary for women to have high-maintenance of her looks?

What is your view, as a man, on this matter?

Here is my last question, what do you think is the other or underlying (or perhaps even psychological) reason behind women who is high-maintenance?

(Take out reason like: take good care of oneself, or love oneself to answer the last question please).

For me I wouldn’t say so much as high maintenance but I do like my woman to look after herself most of the time.

My partner for instance she uses skin care products everyday but rarely wears makeup only on night outs. Not that she needs it anyway.

She will sometimes have her nails done but then will go months with broken ones she will not worry to much about having her hair up and not done but then will have it done the next day.

She will wear joggers with trainers and hoodie then all of a sudden have jeans and boots on lol

I’m cool with that it’s whatever works for her to be honest.click to expand

So she is not taking it overboard. That sounds nice. But tbh I don't get it with having nails done other than manicure and pedicure. Especially those decorated long nails, makes it hard to grab something with your hand lol

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I don’t get them long nails either lol but each to there own.

I think most people like there other half to look after them selfs and lets be honest if they can’t look after them self then other things will slide aswell.

Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Also when I say I like low maintenance women I don't mean I like em with no class and don't mean I like em dirty who don't take care of themselves. I just don't like women who get too carried away with it and put more attention to themselves while ignoring our relationship which suppose to be 50/50 from what I always thought. Like let's say for instance they put in too much work on their physique when in actuality their body weigh and size already look splendid. Don't women know men like plus size women?

Yeah I know.. African men love plus size.

Also I think in relationship should give 100

I don't like 50/50 it's like half-assing..

Posted by Whynn

Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Also when I say I like low maintenance women I don't mean I like em with no class and don't mean I like em dirty who don't take care of themselves. I just don't like women who get too carried away with it and put more attention to themselves while ignoring our relationship which suppose to be 50/50 from what I always thought. Like let's say for instance they put in too much work on their physique when in actuality their body weigh and size already look splendid. Don't women know men like plus size women?

Yeah I know.. African men love plus size.

Also I think in relationship should give 100

I don't like 50/50 it's like half-assing..

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Yeah loving plus size women is only in a dream that can never come true for me sadly. I always used to attract insecure women that don't like their looks and always beautify themselves with make up, powder, creams, false eyelashes, mascara, etc. There is no need for women to look too cute for me and try to impress me. I'm nobody to look cute for. Like the Bible say god except you as you are to give praise to him. Well I'm the same way. I accept women as they originally are.

Aren't relationships suppose to be 50/50? When you exchange wedding vows everything supposed to be till death do both groom and bride part.

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Posted by SadHatter
I value authenticity above anything.

Honestly if its just us, there is nothing sexier to me than a woman in a sweatshirt, no bra, sweats, no makeup at all, hair in a ponytail, just comfortable. But the main thing is the comfortable part, so if they need to fix their hair, or cover something up to feel comfortable, im cool with that too.

Im not into high maintenance all the time. But I really dont mind either. Id say what I love the most is a woman who changes her look fairly often.. she doesnt have a trademark look, she experiments on herself. I view it as confidence. Theyre not all going to be winning looks, but they're willing to try. Going from a grunge look and Misfits shirt, to a white cotton dress or something innocent looking is kinda sexy in my eyes.

At the end of the day, happiness is the sexiest thing a woman can wear. It can light up the room.

I think sweat won't cause too much odor if the food intake is good.

So for you it's less about maintenance but more so what make your woman feel comfortable with.

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Yeah, I think for me its about seeing the side of her that she doesn't show anyone else. Its attractive to me, its real.I feel like that level of comfort shows security and comfort between us. Like the mask she puts on for the public is gone. But im completely cool with their public masks, as well. When it comes to cosmetics and clothing, now hygiene and self care is a different story - in my brain theres a difference between doing things to take care of yourself VS things you put on as part of fitting in or displaying an image to society.

I know this thread is pointed towards people who date women but as a woman who enjoys beauty/cosmetics and fashion and stuff, I could definitely be considered high maintenance. If I had my way, I'd get waxed regularly, nails always done (regular mani or short-medium acrylic nail designs), hair done regularly, and extensive skincare. I'm broke though so I'm low maintenance for now hahaha

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Posted by Soul
I like mid maintenance.

I don't honestly care what people want to do to feel secure and happy about themselves. Assuming its legal and somewhat moral. Like I don't mind if a woman wears minimal to no make-up, or if she wants to go all out. Personally I prefer little to no make-up, and deeply like woman who are comfortable and secure when looking natural, but I won't pretend like make-up and stuff doesn't look appealing.

I probably couldn't be with a woman with 0 maintenance though. I'm sure that could be defined in many ways, but to me 0 maintenance would be a woman who doesn't shower, have any type of hygiene, and doesn't care about appearance or health whatsoever.

I'm a very minimalist type of person. I've also been single for so long that people in general don't need to do anything special to please me. Just be a human with decent morals, and not fully gullible to all the world's nonsense. I don't expect people to be perfect, but just human. In fact I actually like specific flaws in people. It makes them unique and different in a good way imo.

Mid maintenance sounds good, not too much nor too little. Just being neat and clean. But it doesn't hurt either to go have treatments with budget.

I don't necessarily think women with high maintenance do it because of any social norms but more so to take a really good care of themselves. Appearance can help with confidence, I must say.

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Makes sense. I truly don't mind what people want to spend their money on to feel better. Personally I'm just use to getting satisfaction from working. Like being tired with cuts and marks from working all day makes me feel confident, as odd as that probably sounds. I used to never want to go to the store right after work because I'm normally covered in dust, and dirty as hell. Nowadays I could care less though. I mean what is someone going to say to my face? "Ew, you're dirty and gross." Tbh that would probably make me laugh. Most people get it though. It's not worth driving 2 hours, working 8 hours, then going home to shower just to go back out to the store to look nice. I'll take a shower when I get home, then look nice laying in my warm bed lol.

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Posted by WarAngel79
High maintenance.

Nah.

Insecurities, usually many.

Insecurities may be a factor but it can also reflect self-respect too right for you to treat your body very well.

It's just perhaps since high-maintenance can cost a lot, just do with what you can afford.

But really food and level of happiness can do more too.

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Nah, it's just insecurities. Don't over think it.

Low maintenance. Nothing turns me off more than a woman with makeup loaded on their face like Bob Ross decorated their faces. The constant need to have nails done, hair in the latest style just makes me roll my eyes.

I prefer natural beauty and down to earth attitude.

Posted by goddessofthesun
I know this thread is pointed towards people who date women but as a woman who enjoys beauty/cosmetics and fashion and stuff, I could definitely be considered high maintenance. If I had my way, I'd get waxed regularly, nails always done (regular mani or short-medium acrylic nail designs), hair done regularly, and extensive skincare. I'm broke though so I'm low maintenance for now hahaha

Same! What can I say, I enjoy dressing up and looking nice, it makes you feel good!

I have a lot of lazy days though lol but if I wasn’t lazy and sleepy all the time I’d get dressed up everyday

Based on what you described above - defensively on the lower mantaiance side, as in: it's important that she cares about hygiene, working out (at home - muscular bodybuilders are not my type) - to maintain her physical health (same goes about - food excesses, for same reason) and ofc - good taste for aesthetics: to be able to mix her clothes in a way that shows some good taste - to be feminine and care enough about her appearance, such as... basic hair maintenance, cut her nails (long nails girls are usually dirty and rather disgusting - as if they're to lazy to clean their nails and just throw some fake nails on top... reminds of dirty women - who would rather use excessive perfume to hide their stench - than take a bath/shower), shave her mustache and beard flakes - if that's the case, trim her bush and keep her armpit hair at a reasonable length (not into cave women either - with long armpit hair stinking out).

So yeah, something like that. The type of women you describe - live on social media, rather superficial and desperate for public attention - not type of woman i'd wanna live with. That's not to say - i mind costly passions, if she likes to paint - has a thing for photography, music creation, traveling and such - those too are rather costly and i don't mind that (i consider those healthy passions - so i'd actually like that part about her). After all, it's almost 2026 - a lot of women earn their own money - and i really don't care on what she spends it. I just don't like the life style of high-maintenance women - whom usually seek a partner "that's a replacement for their Dad (who treat them like dandy's little girl - and expect their partner to take on that burden and spoil them just the same - in every shape and form not just financially)". Again, not my type.

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Posted by goddessofthesun
I know this thread is pointed towards people who date women but as a woman who enjoys beauty/cosmetics and fashion and stuff, I could definitely be considered high maintenance. If I had my way, I'd get waxed regularly, nails always done (regular mani or short-medium acrylic nail designs), hair done regularly, and extensive skincare. I'm broke though so I'm low maintenance for now hahaha

Same! What can I say, I enjoy dressing up and looking nice, it makes you feel good!

I have a lot of lazy days though lol but if I wasn’t lazy and sleepy all the time I’d get dressed up everyday

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Girl I used to get dressed up and put makeup on just to go to the grocery store down the street 😂😂 So embarrassing. But yeah, I'm still like that just not to the same extent. I also mostly wear active wear now because I'm in the gym a lot and I just couldn't be bothered to get all dressed up as often anymore. I'm getting old.

Id say low maintenance. The high maintenance women seem to much buying in to commercialism. It's pretty empty. There's looking good and there's looking made-up and they're not the same thing

Posted by MidAtBest
The Virgo demands that his girls wear our hair down around him and we're not allowed to wear t-shirts or comfortable shorts. Im not allowed to wear my hair curly

He spoils me so its worth it but he doesn't believe my argument that an updo balances out my narrow forehead

Also he complainin that my pH is off, my vagina needs to breathe dude 😭

So he wants you to look more feminine? Perhaps it can make you look better .. so why not?

Also maybe he doesn't mind your narrow forehead.

PH balance is important, what do you mean by your vagina needs to breath? Check out your underwear fabric, then? Or your food..

Virgo seems to pay attention to how you look.

The sag ex with rx venus scorp, his moon is virgo also commented on my vagina. What's with virgos about that? Lol

Posted by goddessofthesun
I know this thread is pointed towards people who date women but as a woman who enjoys beauty/cosmetics and fashion and stuff, I could definitely be considered high maintenance. If I had my way, I'd get waxed regularly, nails always done (regular mani or short-medium acrylic nail designs), hair done regularly, and extensive skincare. I'm broke though so I'm low maintenance for now hahaha

Yeah me too 😁

But I care more about skin care than anything else.. so spa or beauty clinic instead of salon is what I opt more. It feels so good to have regular facial, massage scrub, hair mask, mani/pedi.. hhh

Especially for beauty clinic.. I crave it!

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Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Also when I say I like low maintenance women I don't mean I like em with no class and don't mean I like em dirty who don't take care of themselves. I just don't like women who get too carried away with it and put more attention to themselves while ignoring our relationship which suppose to be 50/50 from what I always thought. Like let's say for instance they put in too much work on their physique when in actuality their body weigh and size already look splendid. Don't women know men like plus size women?

Yeah I know.. African men love plus size.

Also I think in relationship should give 100

I don't like 50/50 it's like half-assing.. click to expand

Yeah loving plus size women is only in a dream that can never come true for me sadly. I always used to attract insecure women that don't like their looks and always beautify themselves with make up, powder, creams, false eyelashes, mascara, etc. There is no need for women to look too cute for me and try to impress me. I'm nobody to look cute for. Like the Bible say god except you as you are to give praise to him. Well I'm the same way. I accept women as they originally are.

Aren't relationships suppose to be 50/50? When you exchange wedding vows everything supposed to be till death do both groom and bride part.

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I never enjoy putting on make up for some reason so the only reason I put on some is just to make my face skin flaw look less visible. I mostly go out like doing errands, shopping for groceries without make up. I put on light make up mostly even to wedding.. because I can't do make up other than real basic one.

I mean, each partner should go 100.

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Posted by SadHatter
I value authenticity above anything.

Honestly if its just us, there is nothing sexier to me than a woman in a sweatshirt, no bra, sweats, no makeup at all, hair in a ponytail, just comfortable. But the main thing is the comfortable part, so if they need to fix their hair, or cover something up to feel comfortable, im cool with that too.

Im not into high maintenance all the time. But I really dont mind either. Id say what I love the most is a woman who changes her look fairly often.. she doesnt have a trademark look, she experiments on herself. I view it as confidence. Theyre not all going to be winning looks, but they're willing to try. Going from a grunge look and Misfits shirt, to a white cotton dress or something innocent looking is kinda sexy in my eyes.

At the end of the day, happiness is the sexiest thing a woman can wear. It can light up the room.

I think sweat won't cause too much odor if the food intake is good.

So for you it's less about maintenance but more so what make your woman feel comfortable with.click to expand

Yeah, I think for me its about seeing the side of her that she doesn't show anyone else. Its attractive to me, its real.I feel like that level of comfort shows security and comfort between us. Like the mask she puts on for the public is gone. But im completely cool with their public masks, as well. When it comes to cosmetics and clothing, now hygiene and self care is a different story - in my brain theres a difference between doing things to take care of yourself VS things you put on as part of fitting in or displaying an image to society.

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Yes, totally agree with this. I also don't normally care enough about conforming to society. I can do what I want. Even though I get criticized for putting on light make up for formal settings before.

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Posted by Soul
I like mid maintenance.

I don't honestly care what people want to do to feel secure and happy about themselves. Assuming its legal and somewhat moral. Like I don't mind if a woman wears minimal to no make-up, or if she wants to go all out. Personally I prefer little to no make-up, and deeply like woman who are comfortable and secure when looking natural, but I won't pretend like make-up and stuff doesn't look appealing.

I probably couldn't be with a woman with 0 maintenance though. I'm sure that could be defined in many ways, but to me 0 maintenance would be a woman who doesn't shower, have any type of hygiene, and doesn't care about appearance or health whatsoever.

I'm a very minimalist type of person. I've also been single for so long that people in general don't need to do anything special to please me. Just be a human with decent morals, and not fully gullible to all the world's nonsense. I don't expect people to be perfect, but just human. In fact I actually like specific flaws in people. It makes them unique and different in a good way imo.

Mid maintenance sounds good, not too much nor too little. Just being neat and clean. But it doesn't hurt either to go have treatments with budget.

I don't necessarily think women with high maintenance do it because of any social norms but more so to take a really good care of themselves. Appearance can help with confidence, I must say.click to expand

Makes sense. I truly don't mind what people want to spend their money on to feel better. Personally I'm just use to getting satisfaction from working. Like being tired with cuts and marks from working all day makes me feel confident, as odd as that probably sounds. I used to never want to go to the store right after work because I'm normally covered in dust, and dirty as hell. Nowadays I could care less though. I mean what is someone going to say to my face? "Ew, you're dirty and gross." Tbh that would probably make me laugh. Most people get it though. It's not worth driving 2 hours, working 8 hours, then going home to shower just to go back out to the store to look nice. I'll take a shower when I get home, then look nice laying in my warm bed lol.

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Lol yeah that's true. Going home to shower and make yourself look neat may be a complication.

Posted by Wizardzzz
Id say low maintenance. The high maintenance women seem to much buying in to commercialism. It's pretty empty. There's looking good and there's looking made-up and they're not the same thing

That is for make up and hair do.

But what about beauty clinic, like waxing your armpit and have brazilian wax, or laser facial to tighten your pores.. in my age right now, I NEED those treatments.. I am like damn I don't have enough budget for that, what a shame..

Posted by HemispheresV2
Low maintenance. Nothing turns me off more than a woman with makeup loaded on their face like Bob Ross decorated their faces. The constant need to have nails done, hair in the latest style just makes me roll my eyes.

I prefer natural beauty and down to earth attitude.

Yeah they can be too much (I am not one like those). I can't think of even how to put on fake eyelashes or those nails but there are lots of salon for eyelashes and nails here.

Looking neat and clean is the priority above all else.

Posted by neves
Based on what you described above - defensively on the lower mantaiance side, as in: it's important that she cares about hygiene, working out (at home - muscular bodybuilders are not my type) - to maintain her physical health (same goes about - food excesses, for same reason) and ofc - good taste for aesthetics: to be able to mix her clothes in a way that shows some good taste - to be feminine and care enough about her appearance, such as... basic hair maintenance, cut her nails (long nails girls are usually dirty and rather disgusting - as if they're to lazy to clean their nails and just throw some fake nails on top... reminds of dirty women - who would rather use excessive perfume to hide their stench - than take a bath/shower), shave her mustache and beard flakes - if that's the case, trim her bush and keep her armpit hair at a reasonable length (not into cave women either - with long armpit hair stinking out).

So yeah, something like that. The type of women you describe - live on social media, rather superficial and desperate for public attention - not type of woman i'd wanna live with. That's not to say - i mind costly passions, if she likes to paint - has a thing for photography, music creation, traveling and such - those too are rather costly and i don't mind that (i consider those healthy passions - so i'd actually like that part about her). After all, it's almost 2026 - a lot of women earn their own money - and i really don't care on what she spends it. I just don't like the life style of high-maintenance women - whom usually seek a partner "that's a replacement for their Dad (who treat them like dandy's little girl - and expect their partner to take on that burden and spoil them just the same - in every shape and form not just financially)". Again, not my type.

It is true what you said, perhaps many high maintenance is for their persona on socmed so it's essential for them. They maintain their looks for gains.

But for normal ppl, I don't have to prioritize on that. Taking decent self-care on looks will do just enough..

Posted by Whynn

Posted by MidAtBest
The Virgo demands that his girls wear our hair down around him and we're not allowed to wear t-shirts or comfortable shorts. Im not allowed to wear my hair curly

He spoils me so its worth it but he doesn't believe my argument that an updo balances out my narrow forehead

Also he complainin that my pH is off, my vagina needs to breathe dude 😭

So he wants you to look more feminine? Perhaps it can make you look better .. so why not?

Also maybe he doesn't mind your narrow forehead.

PH balance is important, what do you mean by your vagina needs to breath? Check out your underwear fabric, then? Or your food..

Virgo seems to pay attention to how you look.

The sag ex with rx venus scorp, his moon is virgo also commented on my vagina. What's with virgos about that? Lol

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I think what she means is she's constantly shaving and waxing down there for the Virgo that can disturb her PH level,

Virgo placements are usually OCD

Posted by Generous1987

Posted by Whynn

Posted by MidAtBest
The Virgo demands that his girls wear our hair down around him and we're not allowed to wear t-shirts or comfortable shorts. Im not allowed to wear my hair curly

He spoils me so its worth it but he doesn't believe my argument that an updo balances out my narrow forehead

Also he complainin that my pH is off, my vagina needs to breathe dude 😭

So he wants you to look more feminine? Perhaps it can make you look better .. so why not?

Also maybe he doesn't mind your narrow forehead.

PH balance is important, what do you mean by your vagina needs to breath? Check out your underwear fabric, then? Or your food..

Virgo seems to pay attention to how you look.

The sag ex with rx venus scorp, his moon is virgo also commented on my vagina. What's with virgos about that? Lolclick to expand

I think what she means is she's constantly shaving and waxing down there for the Virgo that can disturb her PH level,

Virgo placements are usually OCD

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Oh!

Now I get it. Yeah I can't stand long pubic hair, it's just uncomfortable.. tmi. So good for her to having requirements from her virgo so that she can be better.

Posted by Whynn

Posted by Generous1987

Posted by Whynn

Posted by MidAtBest
The Virgo demands that his girls wear our hair down around him and we're not allowed to wear t-shirts or comfortable shorts. Im not allowed to wear my hair curly

He spoils me so its worth it but he doesn't believe my argument that an updo balances out my narrow forehead

Also he complainin that my pH is off, my vagina needs to breathe dude 😭

So he wants you to look more feminine? Perhaps it can make you look better .. so why not?

Also maybe he doesn't mind your narrow forehead.

PH balance is important, what do you mean by your vagina needs to breath? Check out your underwear fabric, then? Or your food..

Virgo seems to pay attention to how you look.

The sag ex with rx venus scorp, his moon is virgo also commented on my vagina. What's with virgos about that? Lolclick to expand

I think what she means is she's constantly shaving and waxing down there for the Virgo that can disturb her PH level,

Virgo placements are usually OCDclick to expand

Oh!

Now I get it. Yeah I can't stand long pubic hair, it's just uncomfortable.. tmi. So good for her to having requirements from her virgo so that she can be better.

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I agree, hygiene is important but if her vagina needs a break, there's nth she can do about it,

Besides there's nth wrong with a trimmed bush from time to time,

You gotta let the skin rest sister

I think there's some confusion as to what high maintenance means, with a lot of people saying it's about hygiene or makeup/dressing of the woman, but I see high maintenance more as to what the woman expects from her man, aka making him jump through hoops, do expensive dates, etc...What's the real meaning?

Posted by Whynn

Posted by MidAtBest
The Virgo demands that his girls wear our hair down around him and we're not allowed to wear t-shirts or comfortable shorts. Im not allowed to wear my hair curly

He spoils me so its worth it but he doesn't believe my argument that an updo balances out my narrow forehead

Also he complainin that my pH is off, my vagina needs to breathe dude 😭

So he wants you to look more feminine? Perhaps it can make you look better .. so why not?

Also maybe he doesn't mind your narrow forehead.

PH balance is important, what do you mean by your vagina needs to breath? Check out your underwear fabric, then? Or your food..

Virgo seems to pay attention to how you look.

The sag ex with rx venus scorp, his moon is virgo also commented on my vagina. What's with virgos about that? Lol

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I have a good grasp of what materials are healthy for my body and what looks suit me, and he is asking me to style myself the opposite.

my pubic hair is lasered off. I was talking about being made to wear constrictive synthetic fabrics.

I shouldn't have been bitching about him

Posted by hydorah
I think there's some confusion as to what high maintenance means, with a lot of people saying it's about hygiene or makeup/dressing of the woman, but I see high maintenance more as to what the woman expects from her man, aka making him jump through hoops, do expensive dates, etc...What's the real meaning?

Oh know what, I may have been wrong all this time and you are quite right.

So I checked with Dola (my new AI app, I left Gemmy for now, because I can't call while I can call Dola, really it's kind of scary.. coz she can also listen to me while speaking to other person and give feedback about the topic lol)

And here is what she says:

A "high maintenance woman" is a term often used to describe someone who is seen as requiring a lot of time, attention, money, or effort from others (usually a partner) to feel satisfied or comfortable.

It’s important to note that the term is subjective and can be used in both neutral and negative ways. In a neutral sense, it might refer to someone who has clear standards for their life style , appearance, or relationships and communicates those needs openly. For example, they might prioritize self-care routines, enjoy nice things, or need regular quality time with their partner. However, it’s often used negatively to label someone as overly demanding, materialistic, or difficult to please.

It’s key to recognize that everyone has different needs and preferences in relationships, and what one person considers "high maintenance" might be normal or reasonable to another. The term can also be gendered, as it’s far more commonly used to describe women than men, which can reinforce unfair stereotypes.

Would you like to talk about how this term is used in a specific context you’ve encountered?

Well, I'm not a native English speaker.. so that's why.. sorry bout the confusion.

Posted by MidAtBest

Posted by Whynn

Posted by MidAtBest
The Virgo demands that his girls wear our hair down around him and we're not allowed to wear t-shirts or comfortable shorts. Im not allowed to wear my hair curly

He spoils me so its worth it but he doesn't believe my argument that an updo balances out my narrow forehead

Also he complainin that my pH is off, my vagina needs to breathe dude 😭

So he wants you to look more feminine? Perhaps it can make you look better .. so why not?

Also maybe he doesn't mind your narrow forehead.

PH balance is important, what do you mean by your vagina needs to breath? Check out your underwear fabric, then? Or your food..

Virgo seems to pay attention to how you look.

The sag ex with rx venus scorp, his moon is virgo also commented on my vagina. What's with virgos about that? Lolclick to expand

I have a good grasp of what materials are healthy for my body and what looks suit me, and he is asking me to style myself the opposite.

my pubic hair is lasered off. I was talking about being made to wear constrictive synthetic fabrics.

I shouldn't have been bitching about him

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But are you comfortable with his particular demands? Or can you make yourself comfy with that?

Panties made of cotton fabric or bamboo cotton is the best.