Cajunspirit
@Cajunspirit
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Clash of the Virgos
I belong to the 3rd decan. 😄
My main idea behind this topic was to discuss my relationships with 1st Decans... this is not intended to offend anyone, as I believe all Virgos are capable of the characteristics mentioned thus forth.
My first 1st Decan ex-best friend [August 24th] and I were great going out buddies. He always had cash and had no problem sponsering our fun times. I come from a poor family and his is wealthy. I never asked or demanded him to pay for me, he did it of his own accord. So one can say, they are quite generous.
However, issues arised when I started to piece together the fact that I told him all of my personal stories and he hardly told me any of his. He had a knack for lying and exaggerating stories, which I never understood.
He would introduce me to his girlfriends, which equated to two Pisces[*shudder during our friendship. I befriended them and we all used to have good times.
Now being a Virgo, I noticed, males have problems with anger. So a lot of the times he would get pissed, they would look to me for answers.
I believe in the truth, my allegiance is to the truth and I trust in the truth.
So often time I would unwittingly "betray his trust" by telling them the truth.
He would tell them about family problems, mother's disapproval and all sorts of things that sounded far fetched. Though I can make no claim these were not true or some variation of the truth, I said what I knew to be the truth.
He abandoned me shortly after.
Now for the second seemingly best friend [August 31st], he too is quite generous and socially comfortable. We bonded during the difficult times of his ex girlfriend a Scorpio [November 11th] when I tried to be the counselor given my experience with Scorpion females.
Needless to say, after hearing both sides of the story I realised how often he shot himself in the foot. He too, was keen on deceiving and manipulating this girl. Openly entertaining other women and getting close to them in direct sight of his girlfriend at the time, despite his clear knowledge this drove his Scorpio up a wall.
When she grew tired of his games eventually and broke it off with him. He became very vile and spoke ill of her to all of his friends. He demanded that no one speak to her. My Mercury in Libra, just refuses me from taking such action, I must know both sides of the story before making such a drastic demand a reality.
She kept in contact with myself and one Cancerian guy friend. Mr. 1st Decan claimed this was her way of keeping "tabs" on him. That sounded realistic, but all the ills he spoke of her did not. He was very distraught at his loss of her thanks to his Moon in Cancer I believe and would not move on.
So we became close through my counseling him over what happened in the relationship and my pushing for him to seek closure so that he could move on. My gosh was he stubborn.
Eventually he paid her a visit and they talked things out. He came back and unwillingly gave me the story eventually. I recently got a hold of his ex and got her side of the story... I could see clear inconsistencies... Now my knowledge of both of them leads me to believe they both lie and manipulate.
He told me she would speak horrible things about me behind my back and she said the same of him. So I don't really know who to believe.
Needless to say, this relationship will not survive much longer.
Perhaps I will be accused of sticking my nose where it does not belong, and that has truth. But as I said before, what matters to me most is the truth, my allegiance is to truth. So why should I value a dishonest friend over the truth?
Needless to say, after hearing both sides of the story I realised how often he shot himself in the foot. He too, was keen on deceiving and manipulating this girl. Openly entertaining other women and getting close to them in direct sight of his girlfriend at the time, despite his clear knowledge this drove his Scorpio up a wall.
When she grew tired of his games eventually and broke it off with him. He became very vile and spoke ill of her to all of his friends. He demanded that no one speak to her. My Mercury in Libra, just refuses me from taking such action, I must know both sides of the story before making such a drastic demand a reality.
She kept in contact with myself and one Cancerian guy friend. Mr. 1st Decan claimed this was her way of keeping "tabs" on him. That sounded realistic, but all the ills he spoke of her did not. He was very distraught at his loss of her thanks to his Moon in Cancer I believe and would not move on.
So we became close through my counseling him over what happened in the relationship and my pushing for him to seek closure so that he could move on. My gosh was he stubborn.
Eventually he paid her a visit and they talked things out. He came back and unwillingly gave me the story eventually. I recently got a hold of his ex and got her side of the story... I could see clear inconsistencies... Now my knowledge of both of them leads me to believe they both lie and manipulate.
He told me she would speak horrible things about me behind my back and she said the same of him. So I don't really know who to believe.
Needless to say, this relationship will not survive much longer.
Perhaps I will be accused of sticking my nose where it does not belong, and that has truth. But as I said before, what matters to me most is the truth, my allegiance is to truth. So why should I value a dishonest friend over the truth?
I agree with the 2nd decan not being prone to lying. I am a 2nd decan scorpio trying to get with a 2nd decan virgo... wish me luck haha.
Posted by xo_scorpio
I agree with the 2nd decan not being prone to lying. I am a 2nd decan scorpio trying to get with a 2nd decan virgo... wish me luck haha.
Ooooo.... careful he falls deeply for you... that Scorpion charm and dresscode are hardly matched 😛
Posted by Jason2213
I fall under the 2nd decan.
I'd love to hear your experiences with other Virgos, Beergo85's as well.
Im The first decan of virgo mercury i'm not on the virgo cusp which is from the 23 to the 27 of august i'm born on the 29 so im a full virgo plus u have to apply aspect as well i have Venus square Saturn i don't believe in game playing with people i dont lie but if i have to spare someone feelings i will soften my tone to how i will tell the truth. the second decan have serious problems of letting go i kno dis virgo female friend who refuse to let go her relationship even tho dis people be playing her out like a game.lmao
Posted by Jason2213
:O My experience...I've only been aquaintances with August virgos...but...
Its really fun to have conversations with 1st decan virgos because they can talk, talk, talk, talk, and talk. And they're funny. I don't open my mouth anywhere near as much as they do so its like a breath of fresh air being around people who like talking so much on a daily basis every once in a while.
Yeah, I don't think 2nd Decan are bigshot talkers. We much prefer to listen and comment on what is being said.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
im a full virgo plus u have to apply aspect as well i have Venus square Saturn i don't believe in game playing with people i dont lie but if i have to spare someone feelings i will soften my tone to how i will tell the truth.
That sounds fair.
the second decan have serious problems of letting go i kno dis virgo female friend who refuse to let go her relationship even tho dis people be playing her out like a game.lmao
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Yeah, we're suckers a lot of the time. The most naive probably.
Posted by sortilege85
Hey canjun, I too am from the first decan and that fits me perfectly well. BUHAHAHAHAHA!
Booya 😛
Determines, who I am speaking too if its a guy who is a chatty kathey i keep the converstion to a simple one. If they are good friends who i can trust i'll tell them what it is i have in mind. Manipulative and controlling nope.
So you don't get in on the manipulative action? It's so much fun at times.
Sounds like a typical leo right there.
Haha, I don't have much Leo experience so I'll take your word for it.
I speak nicely about my ex's besides one... she screwed me over and left me with bad taste. I still keep in contact with a few ex's who are now married.
I just meet the bad ones I guess :\
Caj-They are not afraid of utilising lies and deceit.
Determines, anyone and everyone lies, but i do not do it unless the person who i've known for a while begins to explain exaggerated stories which i have heard before then i'll lie by agreeing with them and know that inside they are the liars and i simply follow along until they try to bring me down and then i'll usually use their stories against them.
I bet you can consider that manipulation, but i find it a great defense mechanism. I consider that a damn sag influence haha all my sag pals do that a lot with people who lie such as gemini's.click to expand
LOL
I don't consider it lying, I call it playing a long. Just to see what they have to say.
Posted by sortilege85
Whats manipulation i never heard of that term before...enlighten me. >=D
LOL!
It's no big deal 😛
*snicker*
Don't worry, once you start hanging out with more leo's you'll see what i mean haha.
I seem to have low tolerance for Leo and Sag men...
Its alright, theres good apples and then there's the rotten ones. In my experience, the good ones always fall for the bad boys while the crazy ones always go after the good guys. Strange how that works.
Paradox of life
Then were both on the same page when it comes to people lying.click to expand
Yuppersss
Very interesting post Cajunspirit.. and with regards to the first decan virgo's, I've had interesting experiences (none of them bad), but with regards to withholding their personal stories while I would let them in on mine... this made me start to pull away slightly, but eventually they trusted me enough to open up, and I was patient enough to let them reach a point in the "relationship" where they would feel comfortable with me to do so. I also agree with your post about 2nd decan's not taking any butter from anyone (very true!), and they can be a bit judgmental (but really who isn't), more importantly I think regardless of decans, virgo's are just fabulous! (I've said before) I think the world can never have enough virgo's! (I'm a 2nd decan taurus btw)
2nd Decan here born sept. 5th .. Smudged in the middle!
Posted by VirLeogurl09
2nd Decan here born sept. 5th .. Smudged in the middle!
wow dats cool Virgos thats born on sept 5 or Geminis born on June 5 are double mercury ruled which make them very intelligent like the the virgo first decan.
hey Legendary! I need to learn more about this and astrology as a whole, I am so unknowledgeable at this point lol
Posted by VirLeogurl09
hey Legendary! I need to learn more about this and astrology as a whole, I am so unknowledgeable at this point lol
maybe i can help u lol 🙂
Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirLeogurl09
hey Legendary! I need to learn more about this and astrology as a whole, I am so unknowledgeable at this point lol
maybe i can help u lol 🙂click to expand
yeah, I'll ask u questions whenever i need any, u seem to know a lot about this. not right now though.. I'm a bit tired lol just wisping through some of the topics as usual.
Posted by VirLeogurl09
2nd Decan here born sept. 5th .. Smudged in the middle!
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
wow dats cool Virgos thats born on sept 5 or Geminis born on June 5 are double mercury ruled which make them very intelligent like the the virgo first decan.
Does that mean they get as paranoid as Geminis too?
Posted by venusrules
Very interesting post Cajunspirit.. and with regards to the first decan virgo's, I've had interesting experiences (none of them bad), but with regards to withholding their personal stories while I would let them in on mine... this made me start to pull away slightly, but eventually they trusted me enough to open up, and I was patient enough to let them reach a point in the "relationship" where they would feel comfortable with me to do so.
Well I am talking about guy friends. They don't seem willing to let me "completely in the know".
I also agree with your post about 2nd decan's not taking any butter from anyone (very true!), and they can be a bit judgmental (but really who isn't), more importantly I think regardless of decans, virgo's are just fabulous! (I've said before) I think the world can never have enough virgo's! (I'm a 2nd decan taurus btw)click to expand
Yay! A Taurus that likes us!
If only they would stop making that Scorpio mistake, that everyone likes to try.
Posted by VirLeogurl09Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirLeogurl09
hey Legendary! I need to learn more about this and astrology as a whole, I am so unknowledgeable at this point lol
maybe i can help u lol 🙂
yeah, I'll ask u questions whenever i need any, u seem to know a lot about this. not right now though.. I'm a bit tired lol just wisping through some of the topics as usual.click to expand
who said now anywho im too lazy to answer any questions at tha moment anyway so wen u ask i would answer the best way possible.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirLeogurl09Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirLeogurl09
hey Legendary! I need to learn more about this and astrology as a whole, I am so unknowledgeable at this point lol
maybe i can help u lol 🙂
yeah, I'll ask u questions whenever i need any, u seem to know a lot about this. not right now though.. I'm a bit tired lol just wisping through some of the topics as usual.
who said now anywho im too lazy to answer any questions at tha moment anyway so wen u ask i would answer the best way possible.click to expand
sounds good 😉
Posted by CajunspiritPosted by VirLeogurl09
2nd Decan here born sept. 5th .. Smudged in the middle!
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
wow dats cool Virgos thats born on sept 5 or Geminis born on June 5 are double mercury ruled which make them very intelligent like the the virgo first decan.
Does that mean they get as paranoid as Geminis too?
Posted by venusrules
Very interesting post Cajunspirit.. and with regards to the first decan virgo's, I've had interesting experiences (none of them bad), but with regards to withholding their personal stories while I would let them in on mine... this made me start to pull away slightly, but eventually they trusted me enough to open up, and I was patient enough to let them reach a point in the "relationship" where they would feel comfortable with me to do so.
Well I am talking about guy friends. They don't seem willing to let me "completely in the know".
I also agree with your post about 2nd decan's not taking any butter from anyone (very true!), and they can be a bit judgmental (but really who isn't), more importantly I think regardless of decans, virgo's are just fabulous! (I've said before) I think the world can never have enough virgo's! (I'm a 2nd decan taurus btw)
Yay! A Taurus that likes us!
If only they would stop making that Scorpio mistake, that everyone likes to try.click to expand
they are super nervous people and probably a supa virgo lmao
not following.....what "scorpio mistake" Cajunspirit?
The virgo uses the ex's for sex? I am not sure of this. I was with Virgo, he stop communicate with me. He said he was unsure of feelings and need to clear his head. He tell me he will let me know when he is sure. He wants to resist the sex. I do not wanted relationship. I do not understand. This is very strange position I am in. Sorry for my english. 🙂
Posted by venusrules
not following.....what "scorpio mistake" Cajunspirit?
Let's just say I am tired of women complaining about dating some Scorpio man who became overbearingly possessive and controlling in their lives.
Posted by kim_star*55
The virgo uses the ex's for sex? I am not sure of this. I was with Virgo, he stop communicate with me. He said he was unsure of feelings and need to clear his head. He tell me he will let me know when he is sure. He wants to resist the sex. I do not wanted relationship. I do not understand. This is very strange position I am in. Sorry for my english. 🙂click to expand
You said he wants to resist it, which means he is interested.
From your description it sounds as though he has so much emotion for you that it scares him and makes him feel out of control. So what you hear about a lot on these Forums, is that a Virgo man suddenly runs away from the relationship.
What is your sign?
I notice the difference bettween aug virgs and sep virgs is that aug virgs need people and praise.. bc they are so close to leo the full power of virgo is not in them so they can't handle the lonelyness.. i don't care if i have friends in my world i am wat matters.. i will be nice to people but i will not kiss there ass or care if they leave me.. us sep virgs have i don't give fuck attitude i also notice 3rd decans don't like people that much us seconds decans are in the middle we like people but we don't care if they leave.. i notice the virgs that are sad or hate them self is aug virgs.. one example is micheal jackson.. i notice when women cum in here talking about how their virgo hates him self it is almost always augs virgs.. humm wat do u guys think..
Posted by CajunspiritPosted by venusrules
not following.....what "scorpio mistake" Cajunspirit?
Let's just say I am tired of women complaining about dating some Scorpio man who became overbearingly possessive and controlling in their lives.
Posted by kim_star*55
The virgo uses the ex's for sex? I am not sure of this. I was with Virgo, he stop communicate with me. He said he was unsure of feelings and need to clear his head. He tell me he will let me know when he is sure. He wants to resist the sex. I do not wanted relationship. I do not understand. This is very strange position I am in. Sorry for my english. 🙂
You said he wants to resist it, which means he is interested.
From your description it sounds as though he has so much emotion for you that it scares him and makes him feel out of control. So what you hear about a lot on these Forums, is that a Virgo man suddenly runs away from the relationship.
What is your sign?click to expand
I am Leo 1 and him Virgo 3. He is very stranger. I say I want sex, he says no more can not be. I say ok no sex but I still want, he says he is mixes up in the head. I am too attracting he says. If you attract to a person you let it connect. Am I incorrect? Now he stop communicate with me, we were close together now I am sometimes feel alone. He says he not can use each other and use will make feel him like nothing. This is why I find Virgo uses ex's strange. He says he will communicate when time is good. I not want to wait. I do not want to be bad to him or any one. That to brings the bad luck. Before I think he is the best person in the galaxy now like my country says I am like tiger. If he communicate with me I have big claws. But I am here for listen and comprehend.
Posted by sortilege85Posted by virgoking
I notice the difference bettween aug virgs and sep virgs is that aug virgs need people and praise.. bc they are so close to leo the full power of virgo is not in them so they can't handle the lonelyness.. i don't care if i have friends in my world i am wat matters.. i will be nice to people but i will not kiss there ass or care if they leave me.. us sep virgs have i don't give fuck attitude i also notice 3rd decans don't like people that much us seconds decans are in the middle we like people but we don't care if they leave.. i notice the virgs that are sad or hate them self is aug virgs.. one example is micheal jackson.. i notice when women cum in here talking about how their virgo hates him self it is almost always augs virgs.. humm wat do u guys think..
The only august virgo i knew who was like that was a girl who i use to hang out with back in high school. Sad girl she was, but i was there to help.click to expand
I dated an augs virg she was the same.. she look at love in a bad way and other things to very sad..
Posted by kim_star*55
I am Leo 1 and him Virgo 3. He is very stranger. I say I want sex, he says no more can not be. I say ok no sex but I still want, he says he is mixes up in the head. I am too attracting he says. If you attract to a person you let it connect. Am I incorrect?
As I said, he is a afraid of you.
He knows how much he likes you, wants to be with you and feels for you.
He knows if he lets himself connect, he will fall deeply in love with you.
Falling deeply in love with you means he loses control of defending himself.
He does not want to be lose his defense.
Now he stop communicate with me, we were close together now I am sometimes feel alone. He says he not can use each other and use will make feel him like nothing. This is why I find Virgo uses ex's strange. He says he will communicate when time is good. I not want to wait. I do not want to be bad to him or any one. That to brings the bad luck. Before I think he is the best person in the galaxy now like my country says I am like tiger. If he communicate with me I have big claws. But I am here for listen and comprehend.click to expand
Feel like nothing?
Hmm.... He just needs time I suppose... I am sorry but it sounds as though you really do have to wait.
Posted by kim_star*55
He says he not can use each other and use will make feel him like nothing. This is why I find Virgo uses ex's strange. He says he will communicate when time is good. I not want to wait. I do not want to be bad to him or any one. That to brings the bad luck. Before I think he is the best person in the galaxy now like my country says I am like tiger. If he communicate with me I have big claws. But I am here for listen and comprehend.
I agree with Cajun you should definately wait. I know Leos could be a tad bit impatient, but it'll be worth it. Trust me. 😉
hahaha I'm horrible at this quoting thing on my mobile! Don't copyright infringe me. ROFL
Posted by Jason2213Posted by VirLeogurl09
hey Legendary! I need to learn more about this and astrology as a whole, I am so unknowledgeable at this point lol
Same here. As of yet I can't say stuff like, "Oh your mars is ruled by venus." That stuff is still beyond me.
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OH yeah, there is still a lot to learn for us folks, we gotta start doing our research lol
i don't care if i have friends in my world i am wat matters.. i will be nice to people but i will not kiss there ass or care if they leave me.. us sep virgs have i don't give treetrunk attitude
yeah, that's exactly how I am. It wouldn't matter to me if someone had a problem (particularly with me) or not.. there are too many people in this world to make them important.
Posted by virgoking
I notice the difference bettween aug virgs and sep virgs is that aug virgs need people and praise.. bc they are so close to leo the full power of virgo is not in them so they can't handle the lonelyness.. i don't care if i have friends in my world i am wat matters.. i will be nice to people but i will not kiss there ass or care if they leave me.. us sep virgs have i don't give fuck attitude i also notice 3rd decans don't like people that much us seconds decans are in the middle we like people but we don't care if they leave.. i notice the virgs that are sad or hate them self is aug virgs.. one example is micheal jackson.. i notice when women cum in here talking about how their virgo hates him self it is almost always augs virgs.. humm wat do u guys think..
Nah not true i dont need praise well maybe cuz of ma leo moon i do sometimes but ma ego is it check wen i respect someone if i dont full tongue fiery lashing Lol.
it also depend on wats planets in chart if u have alot of virgo planets u would love to be alone planets in libra or venus i doubt maybe once and awhile.
check this out
THE Zodiacal Sign of Virgo commences on August 21st, but for seven days it does not come into its full power until on or about August 29th. From this date onwards it is in full strength until September 20th, and is then for seven days gradually losing its strength on account of becoming overlapped by the "cusp" of the incoming sign - Libra.
me born on the 29 owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
1st decan virgos can be very megalomaniacal, attention-seeking and obstinate (all of that Leo) but they sure are hilarious and adventurous. I adore their sense of humor and their grandiose sense of life. They are great company if you want to laugh and have fun. But, I can only take them in small doses. 🙂
Interestingly enough, the first decan is the Virgo decan. Thus, these are supposed to be the truer virgos.
2nd decan virgos can be very conventional, routine-oriented and introverted but I adore their sense of stability, work ethic and integrity. This is where my virgo falls under. I mistakenly wrote that he was a 3rd decan in another post. I find more comfort with this group as a whole, it matches more with my values and life style .
Just a note, if you really want to know your decan with greater accuracy, check the degrees of your sun sign and look for the decan degrees table.
2nd decan virgos can be from September 1st or September 2nd, the dates are just an estimate that some astrologers have but it is not the most accurate.
Well ur yea the first decan of virgo is virgo so we are the true decan double mercury ruled is its easier to be ourself were the other decan are sub-ruled meaning different personality from a normal virgo.
also virgos that born on sept 5 are double mercury ruled just like gemini born on june 5
Interestingly enough, the first decan is the Virgo decan. Thus, these are supposed to be the truer virgos.
2nd decan virgos can be very conventional, routine-oriented and introverted but I adore their sense of stability, work ethic and integrity. This is where my virgo falls under. I mistakenly wrote that he was a 3rd decan in another post. I find more comfort with this group as a whole, it matches more with my values and life style .
Just a note, if you really want to know your decan with greater accuracy, check the degrees of your sun sign and look for the decan degrees table.
2nd decan virgos can be from September 1st or September 2nd, the dates are just an estimate that some astrologers have but it is not the most accurate.
Well ur yea the first decan of virgo is virgo so we are the true decan double mercury ruled is its easier to be ourself were the other decan are sub-ruled meaning different personality from a normal virgo.
also virgos that born on sept 5 are double mercury ruled just like gemini born on june 5
Posted by sweat.lionessI agree with Cajun you should definately wait. I know Leos could be a tad bit impatient, but it'll be worth it. Trust me. 😉
You damn Leo Women are your impatience. BANE of my existence, I tell you! 😛
Hahaha 🙂
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