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What?

This seems like a silly question to me. Any person who was led to believe something, when in reality, it was something else .. and then this person was left hanging, without any communication as to why, or what happened .. then wouldn't it be humanly natural to still be lingering onto having an answer?

Can you elaborate?

If not, then here's my thoughts .... the Virgo would likely react by attempting to open the bridge of communication with the person who left them hanging ... however, they would doso apprehensively with the sole intention of merely "hearing" what the other had to say, shrouded with utter doubt about the persons integrity. And knowing how Virgos are very begrudging people and rarely are capable of "letting go" anything someone does to slight them in some way ... I would suspect that after this person revealed to them their explanation, then a tyrade would immediately commence, and likely be a life-time event towards this other person.
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Below, these are both true statements.

P-Angel said: "with the sole intention of merely "hearing" what the other had to say, shrouded with utter doubt about the persons integrity."

MsA: I pretty much couldn't sleep without closure, some knowledge and explanation in some form. If it gets bad enough, I won't care who gives it if the subject person will not. Just need something that will help make sense of things. So, if the person comes back the above statement of P-Angel applies.

branh0913 said: "a Virgo just force themselves to ignore and forget about it. After awhile they will. In most cases a Virgo will not bother with someone trying to come back."

MsA: I believe we Virgos are forgiving when it's time but if someone consistently screws up you have nothing left to do but ignore and forget and not be bothered. I do this a lot and the final chance is never something I can give fair warning on. It's hard to get me back after I've forgiven and understood and accepted lies for truth because I was asked to. Many things have a life-span.

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P-Angel, I actually discovered that when I went to go look the word up because I wanted to know the meaning in it's true sense. Just wanted to cut out the math for others. 🙂

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well , I am the one ( libra female) who left virgo ( male) .And I am the one who wants to get him again.He answers my calls( our r. was long dist.) but he doesn t call . one day he is rude , cold , aloof another day he seems to be the man I loved.2 days ago I sent him an sms .but he didnt respond( he now doesnt respond sms as he used to). well my sms was lovely😢 . _t made me think that he doesnt love me anymore.he will not break down his walls for me again.and I am not as brave as I am before. I am tired but still love him even if I
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yes , it was always too hard to please him.but I love him.he is the first man who showed all in inside to me .I saw his heart , his soul ,his weakness ,his fears ;whats all inside. and this inspired me , impressed me too much .there are so many couples who only share their outside world , their physical existence , so I think it is a gift for a woman to be all into a man , to share his own world inside . _ just cant give up on him .and I cant give myself totally to him , it s impossible in my situation so our relationship has always been away from being complete despite it was so close on spiritual level.there can be a solut_on if only he wants but now he is vulnerable and doesnt trust my loveanymore cause _ left him . yes maybe he caused this ( made me all tired ) but he will always th_nk it ths way .
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"it s impossible in my situation so our relationship has always been away from being complete"


If this is the case, lbr, then why are you calling him again, trying to reel him back in?

You're not saying this, but, I'm assuming that after you and Virgo, you must have had another, and now you are alone again (not partnered) and so now trying to snare Virgo back.

Why though? If you know it is impossible to be complete because of circumstances, then why put both of you through so much torture?
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because I can not think of another man to be intimate with.he is the first man who I let touch me and the first man I touched .we never made love .Because I cant be with anyone that way before marriage I am against to premartial s.I am religious he is not . he wanted to move in together but wanted a few years for marriage because of his some personel financial matters .the problem is that _ can not move _n or l_ve with him before marriage.and he cannot have a relat_onship in the way I want only on spiritual level , no kiss no s.we know each other for 3 years. he never understands that it is my relig_ous belief wh_ch pretends me from having s. with him. he never undersatnds becuse he always lived his relat_onships that way , both psychialyyand other way. he always thought that it was a trust issue , _ never trusted him as to have s. with him before marriage. but it is not. he promised to marry me and _ bel_evedhim cause he always keeps his promises he never failed .he always thought that _ dont love him enough to believe him and trust him.
and there never had been anyone for me , just the virgo. I love him , but maybe the problem is that he doesnt love as much as _ do . _ bel_eve that we can marry despite the financial matters cause _ have a job and a good salary. maybe we can not l_ve a luxurious life but can surv_ve he has a job to for the last few months so if he loved me he would think about marriage , but he does noth_ng now and I feel helpless .
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I see, this situation is completely different then.

You will love again, with another, and I suggest that you try to let go of the Virgo .. stop thinking about him, try to turn your thoughts away from him .. so you will be able to love another, in the future who isn't so different from you.

Here's the thing ... if your religious beliefs are so strong and deeply ingrained that it's these very beliefs which have put your morals in total opposition as his ... then he isn't the right match for you, no matter how much you may love him.

You two haven't even made a commitment, and already these differences in spiritual beliefs have seperated the two of you. There's no magic in marriage, lbr.


To marrying him isn't going to create a situation where suddenly you two are matched perfectly .. and this is the impression I get from what you say. If he would just marry you, then all this would go away.

And it won't .. not unless you forsake your beliefs.

If you believe in God, and he doesn't .... and this is a sore spot enough for you that you two are at a crossroads now over it, lbr .. then a marriage isn't going to resolve this issue. The opposite in fact, because if you got married, then you would both feel stuck.

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I know all these things 😢 my mom and friends all tell me the same things.He believes in GOD but thats all , he has got no rel_g_on.but thats why becsuse his family didnt give it to him .His father died when he was 12 , his mother left the boy ,when he is 16 , for another man. he is lonely since he is 16 .I know all you tell above 😢 but I am not that young , I am 31 , he is 28 . I dont think I can love anyone else , I am not a social person and yet I can not date as not to make things against my relig_ous beliefs , this makes it impossible for me to meet new guys. he was the one who stayed patient to this situation for 3 years. I dont know what to do , I really love him but I do respect myse_f and my belief as much as love him.I DONT know and feel desperate about this situation. thank u for the answers.
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well, I am religious but not a fundemantalist.I am somekind like Jalal al-Din al-Rumi . I dont know if u know him ?I am somekind of a sufist.That means I believe in God and love him .religious customs and clothings forexample are not important to me. I am okey with his being deist and he is okay with my being religious to some extend. the only thing we can not solve is that I dont want to do one of the biggest sins in my religion , _ts that having s. with someone who u r not married with and he doesnt think that making love without a marriage commitment is not an adultery.I dont want marriage too much , I want marriage just to be able to give him a complete relationship which includes physicall intimacy as well as the other kinds of intimacy without being against to my belief.but he never understood the issiue this way.or I couldnt tell , dont know.
_ never want to change him I love him that way who he is . but G od he loves s. too much which I see as a sin 😢this makes him irritated.he never can see s. as a sin .I write s. for not that it sa sin 🙂 cause _ am at work at an open office so many colleagues and it is a taboo in my country.and my virgo just lives as if he is an A merican forexample , no taboos. _ AM ok with that but not with premartial s.

I sent him an sms today and maybe this will push him 😢
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not only for that , yes he blames me this way .but he is the one _ want to grow older with , and he said I am the best choice for a marriage that he couldnt find anyone better than me about anysubject . he told his mom that I am the woman he trustes he loved and who bel_evd taht _ was the one whom he wanted to be the mother of his unborn children. marr_age is just a time of matter for him , but _ can not be physically intimate with him till _ get married. not marriage for s. no . but he understands the situat_on from your view. _ just cant tell what I mean maybe . I loev him but yesterday _ decided to give up . _ sent him an sms and he didnt respond._ wrote '' _ love you , this fact will not change even if one day u or _ have to be with anyother one..''
now I am hopless 😢 thank u again.
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If this is your belief and he badgers you to have sex with him, disregarding your beliefs, simply because he wants to nut in you .. then this shows utter disrespect for you, and your values, and from my perspective means, he is last on the list of marriage material, because if he disrespects your values now, then he will be even worse after marriage.

If you would want marriage with him anyway, eventhough he doesn't regard you high enough .... then there's nothing anybody in here can tell you.
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leokitten :
''so stop sending him i love you texts. it is not going to change the man i know it is hard...but you really cannot change someones fundamental values.''

_ sent him the last sms just to convince myself _ did all that _ can and for not to regret in the future ._ must be able to say to myself in the future '' hey you lbr u did your best , you said everything , you told him that u love him despite everything , u said your last word but he did nothing ''. _ easyly forget all his bad side and always forgive him 😢 and then _ find the fault always to me , thats why _ need to make it clear for myself that _ did evrything😢not for him , not to change him .

_ love the cat picture too 🙂 _ love cats too much.he loves cats too 😢he was my panda 🙂and _ was his monkey 🙂love in the zoo🙂
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no . _ts correct. I have never dated anyone before and _ didnt date with him either. but I really felt so close to him. he is the first one whom _ hold the hand of.and we did sleep together ( not s. ) I mean we slept on the same bed holding eachother.It was the first in my life cause _n my rel_g_on it s also a sin to touch the opposite s. without a marriage comm_tment. so _ sinned , but _ am not regretfull about this . _ had been able to test myself whether I go further and _ didnt. that was all sleeping together hold_ng eachother. and was one of the best feeling _ hve ever had in my life. being that close to the one u love is someth_ng l_ke heaven 😢_ left him because _ can not do more than that . and it would be an outrage to him to be with him around him tell him _ love him and than not to let him touch me and not to let him get intimate anyother woman than me.
for example there is a man who is very hungry . you have a wonderfull dinner table delicious food on it. he is hungry and he sees how wonderfull it is but you tell that hungry man not to eat that food and not to go to other tables full of food . you tell him to die of hunger. it is not fair. and it would be credulity to expect that he will not go to other tables just becuse he loves u.
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''The point is not a one night test for sin. It is a three year test for losing trust in God.'' I cant undersstand what u mean here ? can u tell more . I am not a native englsh speaker ._ never lose my trust to God. I love him too much . I pray too much for evrything .this issiue is a very practical matter for me about sin cause _ never let myself in situations that may cause harm to me and to my relationship with G od thats how _ see sin ._ am not that kind ,,oh _ will not do this cause this is a sin
_ will do that cause its not. but the making love with someone without marr_age is really a big one . anyway I wont do that.
and the table example; ofcourse he wouldnt die from hunger 🙂 he would prefer to cheat probably. so that was the reosan why _ left him. but again _ say _ do really love him. his oneside was really wonderfull, a romentic guy he was.😢 he was the man _ wanted to love with all my love forever he still is but _ have to relax and wait as u tell.
and _ thank all of you guys here because _ always talk about mak_ng love as a sin which most of you see it and live it as a necessity as good , its your way and writing such things about mak_ng love may offend some of you but u all tried to see the situation frommy view tahnk u all and _ apologize about wr_t_ng all these which doesnt suit most of u. but _ said before _ am not a fundamentalist . belief is a very personel thing .so pls none of u get offended by th_ngs _ wrote.
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...Virgos are hurt when someone leaves them. However a Virgo just force themselves to ignore and forget about it. After awhile they will. In most cases a Virgo will not bother with someone trying to come back.

if they cared for the other person it can take a greate deal of time for the Virgo to come to terms with the breakup and heal from those wounds.



...he'll be mighty hurt that it wasn't him who's done the leaving. Virgos like to have the last word in everything. That's because, like scorpios, they'll try to control every last bit of their own life. Therefore, if you escaped from them, they sense they've lost control over some part of their life, especially if they feel they could've prevented it...

Oh that is so treetrunking true.
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Avalan i dont agree that virgos fall off the face of the earth to exlovers. My ex virgo is in touch with many of his exlovers although perhaps because (as i discovered recently) he is a player and players like to keep all doors open just in case they change their minds. He is however no longer in touch with me although he tried to control even that situation it was almost like he couldnt bear for me to win. He wanted to stay friends and I said I cant be friends with him i dont think we should be in contact for a very long time. Then he said "i dont think we should have any contact for a while". I was there thinking "hey that's what i just said to you!". He was still trying to get the last word on it, it did make me laugh inside. Anyway subsequently i have definitly had the last word because i have deleted all forms of communication from him and blocked him off a certain social networking site so he cant see what im up to or even find me. Maybe as a taurus I am stubborn, i hate for other people to get the last word too lol!

lbr you will still hold feelings for him for a long time, i think you are like me in that when you love someone you give your all and refuse to give up easily. However i learnt myself recently that sometimes when someone draws the line all you can do for yourself is to try and move on and change your thought patterns. Try to focus on something other than him, and it will become easier quicker than you think. I am going through this process at the moment and it is already becoming easier. As people on this board will know i was so focussed on a guy i felt i couldnt move on. I was like that for 3 months but finally I am moving on, ive arranged a trip to hong kong and australia with a friend and i am focussed on that now instead and it's helping me to look forward instead of backward. All the best sweety 🙂
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"Avalan i dont agree that virgos fall off the face of the earth to exlovers. My ex virgo is in touch with many of his exlovers although perhaps because (as i discovered recently) he is a player and players like to keep all doors open just in case they change their minds. He is however no longer in touch with me although he tried to control even that situation it was almost like he couldnt bear for me to win. He wanted to stay friends and I said I cant be friends with him i dont think we should be in contact for a very long time. Then he said "i dont think we should have any contact for a while". I was there thinking "hey that's what i just said to you!". He was still trying to get the last word on it, it did make me laugh inside. Anyway subsequently i have definitly had the last word because i have deleted all forms of communication from him and blocked him off a certain social networking site so he cant see what im up to or even find me. Maybe as a taurus I am stubborn, i hate for other people to get the last word too lol!"

Either way by some twist of fate Virgos most of the time tend to disappear into thin air whether its them who will it that way or someone else. I guess in your case u did the deed. This is similar to how Pisces and Gemini are. Its safe to say some signs are just like that. They're here one sec and then gone.
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Well, I as a Virgo (but not a guy) would very happily and in a friendly way welcome contact from any of my exes. And not like I was a whore, but there were several dozen at least, and those I have lost contact with, I've always regretted and wondered about. It's not wanting to keep them in reserve for starting another romance, or maintaining control - well, perhaps it is maintaining control, in that I simply HATE loose ends. And to the extent I ever saw something in someone, then I suppose I still could.

But I'm old... of an age where human contact of any kind is starting to be more appreciated.

As I read all the agonies of this board, I think that so many of them are age-related (when you're in your 20s or early 30s, everything is very dire, you are trying to figure out your future and it is a stressful time); or gender-related (guys of all signs will suddenly turn cold, or not call, or seem to be interested in sex only)... rather than sign-related. There is a certain behavior pattern of Virgos - we are perhaps more independent and loner than most. Even though we are in the middle of this world we somehow stand separate from it - the constant self-consciousness. I suppose it manifests in various ways. A lot of the questions here, I wonder how they are Virgo-related - how would ANYONE react when contacted by an old lover? They would wonder what she wanted...

Perhaps a Virgo would be more open to it than many.

Athena
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''all these virgos do is send us to trips for their .... inconsistencies. Bloody hell!.. as a very dear friend of mine would say.... Well bloody HELL! I AM in a trip to forget about virgo!'' 🙂 ure sweet lol ,fumingli_scop. rescueme thank u . yes _ can not give up and somehow _ love to love unconditionally 😢 _ dont know if its good or bad . many around me my mom , my friends sometimes tell me that _ dont have any pride . thats not true . sometimes pride is something different from honour and theres nothing not honourfull or pridefull at loving unconditionalyy .
and my virguy has a lot of exes as friends. _ think it s not easy to cut his ties from his past. he holds on his past , he cant let it go anyway ._ can see that some of his exes still love him as a human .cause he is really respectfull to females . _ never heart him talk_ng bad about woman kind.when we started to talk as friends there was an ex of him who was all trying to get him again , but he was too timid to think that . he asked me what his ex was trying to do. _ told him that she wanted to be with him again. but he didnt agree. 🙂 she was around him , coming his home , telling him sweetheart , had s. with him and he was still asking what she was trying to do 🙂 he was ironically unaware of her desire to get him again. yes _ send him _ love u texts sometimes and it s not a stronger action than having s. with him after the split up . so _ dont think that he will be able to think that _ want to get him again . ( when cpomared to the situation with his ex ).
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Because "taken" legally does not mean taken in our soul. I am married 25 years but it has nothing whatever to do with my inmost soul, even though I suppose to men it does, and that is fine. I accept the legalities, but I know who I am and "taken" is not who I am.

I am learning my way around this board and one thing is that words I write (even though I declined the "profanity filter" in my profile) turn in to other words. I will be more careful in future, I won't be censored.

So many who love Virgos, it is very flattering, there certainly do seem to be more of those than actual Virgos here. The actual Virgos are elusive as always as the butter flys.

Athena
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on monday morning _ called my virgo but he didnt respond . he always answers the calls if he hears the phone rang , he never misses. but he didnt return to my call later. one day passed . today in the bus while _ was going my job , _ felt love for him in my heart ,a kind of warm flow in the heart , u know when u think someone u love it happens , anyway _ send an sms , just to say _ love him, _ become happy when _ dream about the smile that he may have on his face when he read it( _ know that it makes him happy , somehow sure about this).and unexpectedly he respnd it. he called me but my cell phone was in my bag , _ couldnt answer , didnt hear._ am writing this cause _ also become happy that he repond.
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yes , _ think he has to leave her if he can not he must stop insisting on. but sometimes we cant stop loving even if circumsatences are not available . for example , _ can not stop loving him but yet _ can not give him the kind of relationship he wants and _ can t totally leave him either. _m there but not for what he desires and _ dont vanish 😢 ._ can not be with him and _ can not be without him 😢. _t sounds a little bit selfish of what _ am doing and what he is doing to u , but life doesnt always put us in easy situations .
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''people like me are not born to have a working happy partnership. I start believing in this.'' dont think like this .maybe only a very small percent of the worlds population have working happy relationships .u are not born to fail in rel. it s loves and rel. nature not ure bad destination or something like that ._ hope u will have a solution for ur problem .
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wheb _ last called him the dialog :
me- hi , there how are u
V_RG-fine , _ am watching tv . acually WE ARE watching tv?
ME-who are u watching tv wth?
V_RG-with ROBUST ( theres not such a female name in my language)
ME- _s that ROBUST a girl ?
V_RG- yes , she is.( _ asked couse she let me hear her voice)
ME-is she ur gf?
V_RG-yes
ME- are u living w,th her ?
V_RG-yes
ME- you re always saying yes to all the questions ?
V_RG- yes , yes to all your questions
ME- why is that?
V_RG- cause there can be only one answer to this sort of questions:
ME- ok
V_RG-and what are u doing ?
me- nothing at all._ dont have a REBUST _ can watch tv with 🙂
V_RG-(in an adviser tone )u are better than me in more aspects of life and _ am better than u in some aspects .( in s. matters _ think he says 🙂 ).u will never be able to get what u want in ur love life ( he implictly claims that his love life has always been better than me and _ know that it s far away from being truth)u will have an arranged marriage . u will never be able to live that passion ( cause _ didnt sleep with him )
ME - well , why did u need to say all these , _ couldt get the point ??
V_RG- hah , u told me that u dont have a rebust as me ?
ME - LOL , that was just a jocke .🙂
ME- doesnt ur gf get annoyed of my calling ?
V_RG-no ( the girl is shouting to the phone with a flighty voice - as if she is chewing while speaking-no but its late _ dont l_ke this )
ME - _ didnt like ur gf s voice ( girl shouts neither do _ yours )
ME-well , if ur gf asks u not so speak with me what would u do ?
V_RG- ofcouse _ will do what _ want
ME - Whats that?
V_RG - its obvious _ think isnt it ?
ME- well , did she see my sms ?
V_RG - SOME of them.
ME - u invited me to ur home ( we are living in different cities far away) and u say that ur living with this girl , what if _ want to come , would u delete ur invitation ?
V_RG - no _f u want u can come
ME- what sre u telling me will u , urgirlfr_end and _ stay at the same home ?
V_RG-( he got a littele bit annoyed)yes 3 of us , 4 of us, heh we can be 10 .
ME- do u love ur gf??
V_RG- BOTH yes and no
ME- love is love theres no yes and no in love . do u love her ?
V_RG- _ dont know
V_RG -( THE girl began to tell something and he got distressed.) I WANT TO close the phone it became a triad.
ME- ok , take care of u ( plural ) AND wish u( plural ) a good night.




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_ asked him if he is seeing someone or not and he said no . _ asked several times if he is annoyed or bored of my call,ng , he all got angry of my asking this question contin_ously. he said no _am not bored or annoyed. he never told me he got a gf. and one day _ call him and he wanted to make me aware of the girl near him.

its not fair to me , its not fair to the girl. its very very disrespectfull. he didnt say dont call me , dont send me _ love u sms , and one night he says ah _ got a gf for 2 months. god damn 2 months. _ cant believe this. is he a jerk 😢
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_ felt that she is not that into him . _ am sure about this. cause she knows me , she didnt ask him who was on the other side of the phone. he showed her my sms or she picked up the phone and looked _ dont know but it is clear that he doesnt respect her and she doesnt get jeaolous of him.maybe he told her _ was a boy and we were close friends and than _ changed my gender to female 🙂 she seemed to be very comfortable with my existence.
he wanted to give me the cut direct , but he is with a woman who he cant say that he is inlove with .he boggled with the quest_ons _ asked .anyway _ lost my respect to him . maybe not all the respect but too much of it.
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''He wanted you to be bothered and give up'' did he do this terrible dialog with me to stop me loving him? he is a guy that can easily say oh _ got a gf. he never hesitates a second to tell this o know him. he loves this k_nd of things , one of the things he l_ked most on me was my jealousy on him.he will not apologize . and this experience with him will help me not to call him or text him for a lifetime. _ hope. cause _ easily forgive him. _ am blind 😢 _ hope this will give my blindness an end.
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_ didnt text him or called him despite he is with another woman? he didnt tell me this till that call. so wasnt awaree of what was go_ng on his side. _ do noth_ng disrecpectfull to me. _ wont call him again. but the man _ knew was not that bad character _ can say that _ am schoked.yes both of them _ th_nk laugh_ng at me. how bad. his mom and his father in law were tell_ng me daughter , he fooled me , his family , everyone. _ had been near him a friend of him in the worst time of his life and the reward _ took had been a big laugh from thisman and his silly girl.
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V_RG-(in an adviser tone )u are better than me in more aspects of life and _ am better than u in some aspects .( in s. matters _ think he says ).u will never be able to get what u want in ur love life ( he implictly claims that his love life has always been better than me and _ know that it s far away from being truth)u will have an arranged marriage . u will never be able to live that passion ( cause _ didnt sleep with him )

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To tell you the truth, I see his words in this part of the dialogue as being the blunt and honest truth to you.

The reason why you are hung up here in life, is because you've found someone to whom you want to feel .. but, cannot.

You have to wait for an arrangement of marriage before you are allowed to feel.



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