my little bitty virgo insight

ok so i am a scorpio and i dated a virgo for a couple of months, and this is what i noticed about him:
had a lot of trouble talking about his feelings, never felt he was very deep in that department which was really disappointing to me since i am so full of emotions. he just seemed very flat in that area
very sensible, and grounded. knew what he wanted to do to make himself happy and had a 5 year plan or so (he was 23) he was in bands and hes always sort of like the central grounding force, i noticed
trusted people very easily, the opposite of me who is so suspicious of everyone. people depended on him, and he would always help people/ try to serve them
sort of annoying, he was just so sure of everything and never deeply questioned or probed ideas
hated art, other than his music. he was obsessed with music, and bands and related everything to some band or something. the gifts he gave me would always be related to some band. which was okay, but totally predictable.
he could get very boring, everything was always planned out ahead of time, he always wanted to be early if we were going somewhere. sometimes it was nice because this was kinda grounding to me as i am usually unorganized, messy, & late. but when i was jsut talking to him on the phone and not able to see him, our conversations got sooooo borring i couldnt believe he didnt think the same.

my mom is virgo, both of my roomates have been virgos. so i feel like i can recognize you guys the best out of all the signs

I have to ask this question are Virgo Girls and Guys different in expression?

Cause everyone says Virgo's are boring.......and I have been told I'm far far from boring...........I'm always on the move....and just doing things......kepping busy and people say they don't have bad things to say about me...which I'm proud of

Also I think with Virgo guys the emotions are hidden......it doesn't mean he doesn't have any feeling.......because everyone does have.maybe they are just harder to reach

Me I'm very emotional person and everyone knows this cause I wear my emotions on my sleeves and I have an intense relationship with another Virgo but she is on the cusp of Virgo/Libra........I don't know if this makes a difference.......but anyway I noticed the women of Virgo don't hide their emotions.....my sister is a virgo also and she def expresses her emotions lol

Ok Kiki, surely you understand that not all male Virgos are like the one you've just explained, Starblue this goes for you as well...

Sometimes, it seems as though the male Virgos and the female Virgos can get mixed up. What I mean by this; may be that many genders share the traits of a horoscope role. For instance, I tend to have a lot of emotions and feelings that I like to express on paper because I cannot express them in person, considering that my views or thoughts could sometimes be discriminating to a certain individual(like some people).

About 4 or 5 months ago, I dated this female Virgo, who infact was a lot like myself, the only difference that her and I had was the typical organization skills that Virgo perfectionists' had, she lacked that I contained. Everytime I would come to her house, she was always all over the place in terms of tidiness, I would always clean her room on an almost day-to-day basis.

Her and I were always battling for the dominent spot in our relationship but never actually mentioned it in the form of a discussion, we just knew this relationship would not last. We always got along when we had discussions about certain topics in our interests, because we both agreed on a lot of issues. The physical attraction was unstopable, yet, the only problem we had was always trying to go against each other of being right and wrong(who was more right). Many Virgo's are similar in expression, but some differ due to life changing events and just plain genetics like most people or "signs" do.

My experience with her in a relationship was not a regret, it was a dramatic life lesson learned. = )

As a Virgo Male, Kiki, I just subrogate my emotions. I don't hide them, I use my mind first, then I feel. If the situation only calls for me to use my mind, I will keep feelings out of it, if the situation calls for my heart you'll feel the fire. I can be hard to pin down, or to call on emotionally at first, becuase I'm a thinker, then a feeler, but I do have VERRRRRY deep feelings and am very sensitive. think of it like this; we value our feelings, our TRUE feelings, and keep them under lock and key.

I pretty detached, and can seem oblivious to certain things, but when you've got me, you got me!! 😛

also, I'm not very grounded; if a updraft comes along I'm gone with the wind....sorry!! lol I'd much rather wander through life than to figure it out in detail.....I'm a baaaaaad virgo....I just like surprise!! Firguring things out works for somethings but for life in general.....kinda boring don't you agree Kiki? 🙂

besides my name, could you REALLY recognize me Kiki? lol c'mon!!! I'm not that predictable just watch me!! I'll surprise you!!!!! 😛

Hey!! dya think there are two types of Virgos Kiki? Meaning, that our ruling planet is long-lost, and it influences me even as we speak!?!?!?, I mean type? lol....I like to think big, if only just to play around; I don't really take too much too seriously besides my love life, and work....I focus on the important things and leave the little things alone, unless a rare chance to improve it, or to take the idea to new heights is available, but if not I'll leave it alone. Although I can be a little irresponsibe, and get myself into some crazy type o' messes, but YOU'D love me still right Kiki!!?? lol 😛

I type too much jeez!!! I'm more wide-spanding, and just do alot of different things; I LUVE art, of any kind, and love all things romantic; (DON'T TELL NO ONE KIKI!! :O) life is too short to wake up, and eat count chocula every day!! Mix it up!! Roll outta bed instead of walking off!! Ya know?! Life is an once in a life time expereience so when you get a chance to do something fun, or crazy good, DO IT!!!!

yes yes you dont seem like a virgo, i wouldnt recognize you.
reading this again,
i realize i was venting more than actually giving insight, oops.

I hear where you're coming from, Kiki.

Virgo's are very disappointing people in most cases . . they have everything going for them, they could have the whole world . . sad, really.

It's a fear, I think. Terror of some sort that somebody would see them as weak, if they spread their wings too far . . the thing is . . this fear they have is what makes them weak . . not emotions, for they make you strong. Irony !!!

I'm realizing that the Virgo Males that I meet are the most unreliable and uncaring men I have ever met. It's always about them, their feelings and they don't seem to give a crap about other peoples feelings. I always have to tip-toe around their feeling so you don't hurt them. They are such pussies. Grow up. I have seem them use so many people and that act like they are god or something and that everyone owes them something. Then they act like they have been hurt so badly so, you should feel sorry for them. "NO MORE" Everyone has had tough times in their life and bad relationships so, "Get Over It" and stop wasting time manipulating people to get what you want. The Virgo Males that I know are just like that. It's poor me, poor me, I've been hurt and I'm afraid to get hurt again, you are too good for me and they leave you hanging. They are messy,lazy, dirty and never reliable. They will stab their friends in their back and somehow they will convince their friends to forgive them because of all the crap they have gone through. I am so done with ever getting involved with a Male Virgo again. They can go screw up someone elses life and leave mine alone. I don't even want one as a friend because you find out that they are really not your friend and they don't know how to be one. Friendship is give and take not just take and that's what I have come acrossed with Virgo Men that I have met. I'm not saying all of Virgo men are like that just the ones I have met and I'm apparently a fool for thinking anything good about them. Too much emotional drama that they have, too much baggage, too much of anything and the sex isn't even that great when you date them. They have to be trained to know what to do otherwise they are just like little bunny rabbits and their done. Get a clue will you.

I'm not saying all of them, just the ones I have met.

hehehehe, I'm not saying a word . . tons of stuff running through my head and my fingers are itching to post something in response to Sweethearts . . but, keeping my mouth shut . . for now, lol.

P-Angel.....when are you ever a lost for words?

Dyr I'm chuckling to myself, knowing you probably have me on your mind when you said the last comment.l..

sweethearts -- i am lovin your posts right now as i am in the midst of trying to get over my Virgo guy.... i am laughing and agreeing with everything you say.... well, mine was very neat, clean and would never take anything from anyone, Virgos don't like to be beholdin or obligated to anyone... they like to serve and help others... so your guy must have some other butter goin on.... but, i do like the rippin, it makes me feel a little better....

but why is it we all feel so sad and sorry for them....

my guy was like you Dy, he would say (at beginning) you must have men all over you, why are your interested in me -- i am a scorpio too! We're hot i guess and your not! Ha! i'm just being fun.... seriously, you are good people somewhere deep down.... but so much turmoil and anxiety and analyzying that you forget to enjoy life, the relationship your in, take and give the love you are feeling....

Hi Lindawin, day by day is all I can say. I'm saddened over my Virguy, Dyr has been counseling me off line, at least we dont have to use our healthcare for counseling... LOL... all of our troubled Virguy stories sound so similar, one minute they're positive upbeat (mine was even arrogant at times) the next minute I hear "You're the only one that wants me". I'm thinking do I sense security issues.. I'm not a Pisces but a Cancer, queen of emotions unfortunately for me... But everything happens for a reason, remember dont contact, or the rollercoaster will begin again. It'll be rough but thats what DXP is for.. I hadnt a clue until I met the Virguy..

yes, i am (so far!) sticking to my guns and NOT CONTACTING him.... i did send him an Xmas card (but only cuz i had already bought it and thot what the heck i'll send it -- but confirmed in card that i would not be "bugging" him again...) so, my plan is to not contact him.... i dont think he will contact me, cuz then he would be admitting and going against everything he said.... i dunno, it's hard..

lindawin :i dont think he will contact me, cuz then he would be admitting and going against everything he said.... i dunno, it's hard..

It's very possible he WILL contact you again. Above all of the analytical B.S.-ing we Virgo's do, we analyze ourselves the most. If he is on a life journey of self improvement and everything isn't riding on pride, he might get in touch.

thanks jwalker -- i think he has his 'moments' where he says i'm turning a new leaf, no more onenighters or no more seeing me (at least that what he said in past when in midst of 'relationship')... then when we wouldn't talk for awhile i would break down and contact him, then he would respond.... when i asked him once if he would have on his own, he said wasn't planning on it, i guess you got me at weak point in my life... i guess when he was miserable or something with his wife.. i dunno.... i want him to come after me now... i am tired of being the one to go back to him..... i NEED to be done and not contact him again.... maybe i will respond to HIM if he contacts me....

they aren't. I'm a good one. Mind you, I'm upfront, and honest, and won't back down from you, but I'm logical, and will be honest with you. not cold or cruel like you've suggested sweethearts....logically, you'd have to meet EVERY VIRGO MALE in order to slant them; untill then, you just can't do it. I can't hate every sag I meet just becuase my cousin can be a bitch when she's not leading the pack, or getting her way; people have the capacity to change, on a great scale even. they may surprise you OR dissapoint you. You girlz seem to really hate Virgos; why?.

I'm not really frightened by emotions or anything intense or a person whom just needs help. I'm just not a fan of people who are controling, self-destructive, self-serving, person whom thinks life is generally about controling someone, and domination; that sounds really bad, and unattractive. As a Virgo, I'm highly independent, and free-spirited, and can't stand a person whom wants to control me. I'm a very honest loyal person as well, but if you tend to get jealous over the drop of a dime, and aren't a logical type, and want to keep me on lock down.....well, this Virgo flys on. Life isn't like that, and it seems to suck in my opinion if you think it's all about controling another human being....you meet greet, and love but you can never possess another soul. just goes against what I believe in.

Virgoexalted: If you would of actually read what I wrote, I stated that it was about the Virgo Males that I HAVE MET. I don't hate every Virgo Male. I don't hate anyone actually. I just am pissed off at being screwed over by them and yes, it is my fault to allow it to happen. I'm not talking about the ones on here either. I really don't know the ones here and they have giving me very valid advice and I appreciate that. I'm just down right emotionally exhausted from the ones I do know personally. People can change their habbits, where they live, who the choose to date, how they dress but, they can never actually change the core being of who they are. They can only take what they have and try to make a better mold of it and grow. We wouldn't actually be on here if we hated Virgo's but, most of us have been through alot with them and we are trying to understand them for our own sanity.

"but at least I had the conscience not to get involved with a Fish Girl... All of the women I've been seriously involved with were strong enough to deal with my grumpy attitudes & acid tongue"

Thanks, Dyr . . in other words . . too weak to deal.

Actually, I don't believe that you really believe that. Certainly, it's obvious just from dealing with me, that being weak in the department of dealing with a Virgo is not an issue with a Fish Girl . . we can handle a hell of a lot more than you project here and you know it.

Really . . . the real truth as to why you don't get on with a Fish Girl is because you know full well in your heart that we would hold you accountable . . for everything you do and say. From talking to other Pisces in my world, it seems that most people steer away from Pisces because . . we're strong . . not weak.

We'll hold you to "it" . . whatever "it" is . . stand tall and firm and make you comprehend yourself and the part you played in any scenerio and that's scary to most people because usually people want to ignore their own faults and concentrate why it's the other person's fault.

Truly . . I believe most people fear us Fish Girls.

I hear ya on that, Dyr . . where did she go?

I miss her too.

I thought the typical Virgoan personality was a bit of a marker? The sign in my opinion isn't the most outgoing, or easy-going roxi, but is mostly logical, and understanding. I tend to use my head in all things. You'd never even know if I we're in a stew unless I told you becuase I am so in control over my emotions. I don't leak them out, becuase I personally am not comfortable with letting barriers down completely with a stranger, or even relative becuase I understand human nature all too well; humans tend to exploit, and manipulate people when they let their barriers down, and they take advantage of anyone whom was foolish enough to let their walls down; it's the dark side of human nature; and egolessly I must say, not everyone can be stereotypically virgoan. Perhaps this is just my personal experience interupting normal expression but I never truly do show emotion, except in the bedroom. I tend to verbalize them calmly, and rationally and I have no secrets so If you'd like to know something I'm an open book; maybe not a deep, and emotional book, but a knowledgeable, informative one. I am just detached.

sweets, virgos suck. What can I tell ya? It's a dirty job with low pay; but somebody's gotta do it 😛 It's like I said before; it's not the sign of easy-going, and sociality; that would be libra's job. Virgo is the sign of the lone wolf, or the lone falcon in the sky. It flys solo, and having another join the team, when she's used to her freedom is a hard transition for her because she takes no more than she needs, and tends to need nothing for no one; she is in definition, true to her name; "unbound, and free" Virgo means just free, and not possessed by any one earthly thing...I don't know it's not a sign for everyone to like. If the virgos in your life suck, would you consider dating another sign who suits you? We aren't easy to live with at all Sweets. I don't think that virgo is like the loud obnoxious friend who you let move in but ONLY untill they found a spot of their own, but just like the quiet mercenary. I speak usually when spoken too, not because I fear something, but becuase I don't care to speak on anything if it isn't important, so small talk doesn't come easy to this sign; I tend to stay general, and give you the most important parts of the day, and feel anything else is trivial, and a waste; details bug me.

Today, I am actually calm about everything.....finally feeling better. I guess I needed to release some stress by writing things out. Today, I feel that I don't give a crap about what has been going on with the Virgo's I know. They have there own misery to deal with and I don't have to be apart of it anymore....I really like that. Last night, I was actually thinking to myself and realizing that why have I let these men drive my emotions out of control. I have never let that happen before so, why now. Actions do speak louder than words and that is just common sense but, when mixed with emotions well, my common sense went out the window. It has taking me a while to get a clue and well, I have now. I actually feel so much better. I will not waste another minute on worrying about why they do this or do that and why they ignore or why they do anything or even why they try to come back because you know what, I don't want any of them back. I want someone who wants to be with me from the start and not act like a coward and have to think about things. If it's not there for both of us then they are wasting my time and I want to be happy and not feel like I did something wrong and don't even know what it is. I want someone who will make me feel secure in all aspects of our relationship and not just when it is convient to someone. You all have been great on here. Everyone here has helped me alot in realizing that sometimes we go through things that we can't talk to anyone we know about and it helps doing it on here with all of you. Thanks again 🙂

Virgoexalted - altho you are a woman, your description of your self sounds just like the Virgo guy i was 'with' - altho he described himself as a cat - but same difference as lone wolf....

it's amazing tho -- details bug him, didn't want long, drawn out emotional, emails, etc...

whatever, altho Virgos may be smart and feel they need no one and are content -- i kinda feel sorry for you all, i think it's pretty sad really - cuz in the end you are going to have a lot of regret....

sweethearts -- i feel as you do, it still hurts, but why am i wasting my time, energy and sanity over someone who obviously doesn't care or doesn't care to tell me he does.... i agree, talking on here has helped me to vent and be calmer and has been a great lifeline.... thanks!

Lindawin.....I've been male since birth 😛 I wonder if I should carry out that sex change op.....😛

It's not that I (as I can only spek for myself) feel I need nobody; like you, having someone in your space is annoying beyond belief for me; I love my freedom. having someone come along and steal your heart is great and all, but now I've gotta share my space!!!! *VE pouts* lol!! I've very generous, but having a so-called "companion" ALL THE TIME BY MY SIDE DRIVES ME NUTS!!! So no shacking up for me cuz I am a thinker, and having someone pry my head open irritates me immensely, but I love company all the same. I hear tell that Scorps don't like people nosing around in their private things; Just so happens that a Virgo doesn't care to find out or investigate about YOUR things/buisness (UNLESS YOU MEAN THEM HARM) which give peole the impression of emotional detachment on Virgo's part.

I tend to see the situation in ultimates; as in you ultimately DO or DO NOT. there is no in between for action, and inaction. I want the answer staight away, and don't like beatin' round the bush. becuase it's irritating. Don't need details, just want answers.

also about regreting it, I don't know. I tend to think having people in my immediate space as intrusive, and aggrevating unless I'm called. I've never been good with the 'cuddling' thing.....I'm a mind over heart dude, but sometimes you'll see me wince a tear! (moon in Cancer).

oh virgoexalted - LOL! Ha! I don't 'look up' users but obviously something i read thot you were a woman - sooorrry!

anyway, yeah, you sound almost exactly like guy i was 'involved' with... long distance relationship -- both of us not supposed to be even talking -- both married -- and yet -- both felt connection -- talked on email for 6+ months everyday!

but when feelings got too much - or i came on too strong with them -- he would back away, now he's backed away for good -- which is probably GOOD for me

cuz being a scorpio i am similar to virgos - like my privacy, don't like fake phony anyone/anything... like to have fun, be real, have stimulating conversation and other extracurricular activities, but also am jealous and possessive....

anyway, i'm getting myself over him, not thinking about him.... so want to hear all the bad, crummy stuff about Virgos so can feel better, ha!