my on/off Virgo again wants to have baby with me.

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My on again off again Virgo??_..might make me slits my wrists. xoxox Taurelle

Has asked me to have a baby. What is a girl to do? The man that I love and hate at same time has asked me to have his child. We are both in our 30s, have no children.
We have been friends for 17 years.
We had a relationship in my early twenties??_.but I didn't know I was his girlfriend??_lol or of he loved me??_ He was cold and dismissive at times??_.unless we were having sex or sitting watching tv. Never took me anywhere??_Never showed me off??_made me feel like something was wrong with me. Didn't even know of we monogamous or not. I never felt special. So I began to date a Cancer, in addition to my Virgo??_??_an older man cancer??_.He swept me off my feet, fed my ego and my indulgent nature and then gave me an ultimatum. Either him or the Virgo??_..So I went to Virgo??_.I told him I loved him, wanted him but he needed to give me something, I am his??_does he love me? And I wanted him to really be my boyfriend.
At the time, he didn't give me anything, so I told him it was over??_I date the cancer??_I become enamored 3months later. I get the call??_??_
I LOVE YOU!!~ from my virgo??_.what was I supposed to do with it then. I married Cancer , assumed Virgo just didn't want me enough I swallowed it and moved on. My cancer made me feel secure??_not the wondering that goes on with Virgo??_ Side note: Virgo called my house on my wedding day and my mother told him I wasn't home??_.lol
I always have been drawn to him, my Virgo. I used pray that he would get married or at least get someone pregnant so I could erase him from my mind. I was drawn to him while I was married??_I never called or cheated on my husband??_. I just would hear word down the pipeline on the occasionally about him??_
I leave him after 5 years??_.the year I turned 30. What was my birthday gift??_I called Virgo??_ We got together and that first kiss back was amazing??_sex.always beyond??_ I start seeing him but he wont commit to me??_no boyfriend??_etc. So we on again off again for 2 years., you know you virgos??_hot and cold. During the last year, I tried my best??_.but it just wasn't happening so at the beginning of the year I made an active decision to stop seeing him??_.I'm looking for a long term partner and this man cant even give me boyfriend, spend time with me or treat me right. I got to go.
We remain friends??_but I know the deal??_.he has time for his friends and his businesse
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lol...didnt realize this got cut off...my madness continues...

businesses but not for me. 7 mths later..he tells me he wants to make me his woman??_.wife??_. during sex of course??_Then the baby talk??_which he had texted/called me about before over the last months but I just looked at him like hes crazy. So he says all of those things??_Im still undecided??_Ive been here before??_but somehow its different. So I go to his birthday party and treats me like gen pop??_.nothing special ??_cold as ice??_this is within 2 days of the baby request.. I have a meltdown...Im over it??_WTH is he doing this??_

Hes selfish, inconsiderate, cold ??_??_..but he —s still here??_.He's always here WTH is he still here??_..We have a million coincidences??_ After I left my husband, I lost my dog??_.he found it and he wasn't looking trust me amongst other things.

I have no idea what Im going to do??_.I love him??_.but I don't think I can at this stage in the game take the heartbreak??_Hot and cold with baby is no fun.. But baby with stable man sounds good??_im 33 and scared shitless that I wont find anyone else in time. I love him and would love to be the mother of his children??_ I always envisioned that ??_But I am too sensitive for him??_He doesn't call??_He doesn't do xmas??_holidays etc??_ How do I know if he wants me for more than uterus??_I know we have great potential??_.but I want him to want me too??_or at least show it more??_ give me something??_.any thoughts??_sorry for long winded post??_lol

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"I know we have great potential??_.but I want him to want me too??_or at least show it more??_ give me something??_.any thoughts??_sorry for long winded post"

Do you really want to have a baby with a selfish, inconsiderate, cold man? He sounds like a sociopath, no emotions, NOTHING. Do you really want him in your life as a boyfriend and potential father of your child AS HE IS? Not as you want him to be.

This guy seems like a nightmare story waiting to happen for a loving feeling woman with emotions, he's not even coming off the minimum of love between 2 people, you'll end up being a love starved needy emotional mess around this kind of man, go and find another loving cancer or maybe even a fire sign like leo or aries whom will DEMONSTRATE the kind of love you need to feel grounded with a man.

If you really want to know beyond a doubt, date him for another 2 or 3 years FIRST before dragging a child into this NOTHINGNESS with which you live, having a baby won't resolve anything least not for you it won't, it'll only exasperate and magnify every issue you share with him.
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Taurelle18 .Lust can fill your bed,love can fill a home.Spend a day with a few single moms,not the single moms that her mother watches her children when she wants to go out.Talk to a single mother that has no village,that has no support at all.A mother lving in a homeless shelter.

If he doesn't show up for the holidays and birthday now,explain that to your child when he is missing for their birthday.
Latest figures say it costs 250,000 to raise a child these days.

How is he holding a job?Not doing so well?Kiss your child support good bye.If he can't manage his finances now, other than doing stuff for himself,that's not good for any family her has.

Go price baby stuff,diapers,clothes,daycare and toys.(times 25).The average child comes back home after college and can't find a job).

Yeah sure everyone supports you at first until they get bored.

Your baby didn't ask for 1 and a half parents.

Women are having children into their 40's,so you have time.Just take folic acid to keep your health up for pregancy.

Is this what you want for yourself? What if he gets bored with playing daddy?He is playing if he is not there full time.

He is not the only man out there.

I didn't say you wouldn't be a great mother or wouldn't love you baby at all.It isn't about that.

Having a child will change your life forever.
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This an manipulative thing done by men in general, we are super horny sometimes and we feel like saying stuff like that will increase our chances significantly of that happening. He really doesn't want a kid, trust me

Also some men can say their wife "I think our toddler needs a playmate now ", just so u can get a woman super horny subconsiously. for some reason that actually works on women LOL.
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Taurelle18
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Thanks all for your responses...Its just difficult... Im just tired....plain old tired... I think I may just start to ignore him...again lol
Nothing new , this baby request was additional to some serious birthday getting old talk. Which triggered my getting old anxiety....
On a side note, unfortunately my baby window is slightly limited..had myomectomy in December. Literally, I go to the gyn and they ask me if Im ready to get pregnant...not a fun md visit.
At the single mother stuff. trust me I am not a fan...I work with children and I know how it turns out.. I believe in a two parent household. ETC. Job security wise we are both good for the most part..clinicians but... shit I just dont know.. and another cancer...hell no... Im still paying bills for all the BS he did...crazy..Not a secure man at all.


I'm usually on some ..."I love you...but I love me more" when it comes to him, as I know I can become a mess, but I just was having a shit moment...heres to hoping it will pass.
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If you can't decide whether or nots it's a good idea to have a baby with a man who you're not 100% sure you are in love with and want to marry, having a baby is the last thing you should do. Period.

1. Having a child isn't about making your relationship stronger. most times it won't IF you're not committed to each other and hopefully married.

2. Having a child without having a foundation of 100% unconditional love between two parents is not fair to the child, period. he/she deserves a stable, safe and loving set of parents who can provide the emotional stability for that child throughout their young life.

3. Having a child based on a urge will only result in 3 things: and in normal cases, two of them imho are bad.

4. Having a child without an established plan of care, support system, and set of core values that you raise the child with will only result in undermining the child's ability to be raised and nurtured in a safe, secure and balanced environment that promotes natural psychological and physical development.

5. Having a child without knowing the direction of your lives first and foremost isn't wise nor is it in the best interest of the child.

6. Having a child for the sake of having a child, because you feel like it at this time, or your half on, half off, BF suggests it; is simply crazy if you're not prepared to be a FT mother and he's not prepared to be a FT father. Any man can make a baby. Any woman can get pregnant. It takes much more to be a father and much more to be a mother. It's hard work. It's dedication. It's loving that child so much that you're willing to give up many things you want to do and love and sacrifice for the betterment of your child.

Can you honestly say you're in a good position to have a baby at this time and in the scenario you described?

I am not judging you, but being completely honest. I was adopted, my brother was adopted, and one of our boy's is adopted. Thank God this option existed for my parents and for my husband and me. I realize not every one choses this route, or grew up with two parents. However, in your case, if you really want to give your child the best opportunity to succeed in life and be a whole person, you will wait until you unconditionally love your BF, chose to be fully committed, and be in it for the long haul. Children are a life long commitment, not a shiny new toy that you can discard when your tired of it and inconvenienced.
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Thanks all for your responses...Its just difficult... Im just tired....plain old tired... I think I may just start to ignore him...again lol
Nothing new , this baby request was additional to some serious birthday getting old talk. Which triggered my getting old anxiety....
On a side note, unfortunately my baby window is slightly limited..had myomectomy in December. Literally, I go to the gyn and they ask me if Im ready to get pregnant...not a fun md visit.
At the single mother stuff. trust me I am not a fan...I work with children and I know how it turns out.. I believe in a two parent household. ETC. Job security wise we are both good for the most part..clinicians but... shit I just dont know.. and another cancer...hell no... Im still paying bills for all the BS he did...crazy..Not a secure man at all.


I'm usually on some ..."I love you...but I love me more" when it comes to him, as I know I can become a mess, but I just was having a shit moment...heres to hoping it will pass.



Sorry to hear about your medical condition.I hate when "the professionals" pressure you into having a child like that,it's like they are scaring you into a pregnancy.They don't have to live with your decision.As medical professions they should just present you with the facts.Not twist your emotions like that.It should be just their job to say it's a matter of science,not pressure.If you really want children ,you can foster or you can always adopt.

You must be strong if all these weak men see you as an answer to their prayers.Are they the answer to yours?So take that strength and do some good decision making for yourself.Good Luck