Need help with Virgo woman:Pisces sun/Aquarius moon/ Sagg Rising

Hi, so I am having some trouble with a virgo woman. We met around 5 months ago and then I sort of asked her out but she was going through a bad break up and thus declined. However we kept talking and became good friends. After a while when she got over her breakup she asked me out herself and I naturally complied. After this we became pretty close to each other, we hug each other when we say goodbye and she is touchy towards me, feeds me things with her hands and stuff. Also when we are together she always uses one spoon or plate or whatever and there have been a couple of times we discussed some naughty things which were just between us.

Recently we were talking about ascendants and descendants and she has a pisces descendant(my sun sign) and I have a gemini descendant(her moon sign). She went on to a calculator and read about me and kind of gave me all the hints necessary to find out hers. The descriptions fit us perfectly I am what she wants and she is what I want(from the descendant descriptions) and she was kind of embarrased and shy about it.

Later in the evening when we said goodbye I felt awkward and didnt hug her while saying bye and she had a really weird expression on her face. After which she kind of gives me attention but I know that something is bothering her and we're kind of not directly asking each other to meet or whatever.

This now has me totally confused. Should I power through and ask her out or should I keep playing this stupid mind game that i going on. As a pisces I can play mind games, I dont particularly like them though.

Maybe it has nothing to do with astrology.. Maybe something happened in the day or she might be dealing with something "personal" and that could be bothering her...

Not everything is an astrological issue.. Some things are just basic human issues...

So I suggest that you find out if something is bothering her at work, etc...

Spoken like a true pisces. The thing is I dont know if I should ask or not. I dont really understand virgo's but they have been attracted to me and vice versas.

Posted by btboy1111
Spoken like a true pisces. The thing is I dont know if I should ask or not. I dont really understand virgo's but they have been attracted to me and vice versas.

I understand, sometimes when we don't know something we can turn a little pessimistic...

But you don't have to ask directly, during y'all conversations try to ask indirect things...

Is Virgo your 10th house??

SUN IN YOUR PARTNERS TENTH

You may see your partner like a “mini-me,” and desire to make them like you. In fact, your partner is likely to look at your as an authority figure. Be careful to not be too overbearing, as your partner may become resentful over the power you have over him/her. You stimulate your partner’s desire for career enhancement, public recognition, and social status. Your partner greatly admires you and looks up to you. You exhibit the qualities your partner wants to be known for. You make your partner want to work hard to achieve greatness in their life. Your partner has a great desire to impress you. With you, your partner is far more disciplined, responsible, and patient. You provide a great amount of support and encouragement to your partner. Your partner feels that you are shining a light on their potential for success.

Let me see if I get this right.

This Virgo does all this:

Posted by btboy1111
After a while when she got over her breakup she asked me out herself and I naturally complied. After this we became pretty close to each other, we hug each other when we say goodbye and she is touchy towards me, feeds me things with her hands and stuff. Also when we are together she always uses one spoon or plate or whatever and there have been a couple of times we discussed some naughty things which were just between us.

...then she looks for you to lead things further and she picked up you were feeling awkward so she backed away and now THIS is seen by you as a mind game SHE is playing? Pisces delusion is real.



Maybe you should back off all the way and keep partaking in this imaginary mind game you're into...and leave her for someone who actually can pick up on things that are more than obvious. She is pretty straight up which by Virgo standards is a lot...she's warm, she talks to you, she asks you out, she feeds you from her hand. I know you probably want to sit pretty and have her throw herself at you but that isn't happening. Man up or move on.

Posted by DeeLovesRed
I understand, sometimes when we don't know something we can turn a little pessimistic...

/dead @ a little.

Understatement of the century.

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Posted by btboy1111
Spoken like a true pisces. The thing is I dont know if I should ask or not. I dont really understand virgo's but they have been attracted to me and vice versas.

I understand, sometimes when we don't know something we can turn a little pessimistic...

But you don't have to ask directly, during y'all conversations try to ask indirect things...

Is Virgo your 10th house??

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I dont know how you knew this but yes my virgo is in my 10th house. What does this mean though?

Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
I don't get what there is to be confused about, she seems to be interested and is making that clear.

I feel like you're overthinking things here and are sending her mixed messages as a result, withholding something as simple as a hug because she got shy after telling you she liked you essentially.

She opened up to you and where you should have taken charge as a man you backed off instead and decided to focus on her shyness. She probably felt rejected by you and as a result withdrew.

As a man you need to take charge and pursue her/vocalise how you feel about her, that is if you want to get anywhere with her.

I just didnt want to come on too strong. Also yeah I agree I am overthinking but that is essentially what being pisces is about and hence I needed your help wonderful people. How do I show her that my interest is genuine and that I just had a semi awkward moment of avoiding PDA. Time is ticking I feel...

yeah I just realized that she was being pretty obvious and I was assuming that she wasnt, as I do with most other people. Its just that we pisces always kind of look at things pessimistically.

I think its just a communication issue with the pisces virgo match. Well whichever way this goes, im gonna try not to think too much and just do it. Its just that like since the hugging thing happened she did come share my space and she did that by herself without me asking but it felt like she was holding back. (pisces read body language well).

So im just worried about if she changed her mind cz i sort of micro rejected her.

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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
I don't get what there is to be confused about, she seems to be interested and is making that clear.

I feel like you're overthinking things here and are sending her mixed messages as a result, withholding something as simple as a hug because she got shy after telling you she liked you essentially.

She opened up to you and where you should have taken charge as a man you backed off instead and decided to focus on her shyness. She probably felt rejected by you and as a result withdrew.

As a man you need to take charge and pursue her/vocalise how you feel about her, that is if you want to get anywhere with her.

I just didnt want to come on too strong. Also yeah I agree I am overthinking but that is essentially what being pisces is about and hence I needed your help wonderful people. How do I show her that my interest is genuine and that I just had a semi awkward moment of avoiding PDA. Time is ticking I feel...

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Didn't want to come on too strong?? I'm sorry but please cut the pretention. You initiated first and then waited for her.

After all of the obvious signs that she's into you and you taking full advantage of those gifts, no sooner than she gives in than you pull the bait and switch. You said it yourself...you play mind games. The reason you're doing this is to break her so you can gain complete control over her emotions and have power over her. That's your intent.

It's sad. This woman just got out of hell and it looks like the beginning of you putting her right back in it. Right now, she's probably analyzing over and over again where she messed up and it ain't even her fault. I hope she wises up and moves on.

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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
I don't get what there is to be confused about, she seems to be interested and is making that clear.

I feel like you're overthinking things here and are sending her mixed messages as a result, withholding something as simple as a hug because she got shy after telling you she liked you essentially.

She opened up to you and where you should have taken charge as a man you backed off instead and decided to focus on her shyness. She probably felt rejected by you and as a result withdrew.

As a man you need to take charge and pursue her/vocalise how you feel about her, that is if you want to get anywhere with her.

I just didnt want to come on too strong. Also yeah I agree I am overthinking but that is essentially what being pisces is about and hence I needed your help wonderful people. How do I show her that my interest is genuine and that I just had a semi awkward moment of avoiding PDA. Time is ticking I feel...

Didn't want to come on too strong?? I'm sorry but please cut the pretention. You initiated first and then waited for her.

After all of the obvious signs that she's into you and you taking full advantage of those gifts, no sooner than she gives in than you pull the bait and switch. You said it yourself...you play mind games. The reason you're doing this is to break her so you can gain complete control over her emotions and have power over her. That's your intent.

It's sad. This woman just got out of hell and it looks like the beginning of you putting her right back in it. Right now, she's probably analyzing over and over again where she messed up and it ain't even her fault. I hope she wises up and moves on.

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Dude... I was there with her when her boyfriend left her. I was there with her when she cried. when she got sick I got up early to make tea for her and I did these things not to fuck with her but because I actually liked her. Playing mind games is my boon/bane but when it comes to relationships Im sorry it doesnt sound right to most people, but I played those to get with her and not take advantage of her. I actually care for her and spend almost as much time as she does overthinking. Im pisces not scorpio dude :p Love is life.

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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
I don't get what there is to be confused about, she seems to be interested and is making that clear.

I feel like you're overthinking things here and are sending her mixed messages as a result, withholding something as simple as a hug because she got shy after telling you she liked you essentially.

She opened up to you and where you should have taken charge as a man you backed off instead and decided to focus on her shyness. She probably felt rejected by you and as a result withdrew.

As a man you need to take charge and pursue her/vocalise how you feel about her, that is if you want to get anywhere with her.

I just didnt want to come on too strong. Also yeah I agree I am overthinking but that is essentially what being pisces is about and hence I needed your help wonderful people. How do I show her that my interest is genuine and that I just had a semi awkward moment of avoiding PDA. Time is ticking I feel...

I'm a Pisces as well so I get the overthinking. 🙂

Virgo's overthink too generally but as damnata was saying this girl is being remarkably obvious for a Virgo that she digs you, which you don't always come by in Virgo women. Just don't leave her hanging when she does open up to you.

Why did you feel awkward about showing pda?

With Virgo's, being straight forward and honest will get you a long way. You need to let her know how you feel, not in a grand way necessarily but being open about that you dig her and where you'd like things to go. I know that might not always be easy but I don't see things going further if you keep holding back.

Also from what you've written so far, she doesn't seem like she's playing any games.

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Well there were a lot of common people in the building and one of them was walking across nearby and I just got paralyzed due to that for some reason. I usually dont freeze up but it was kind of an emotional moment for me too and another person just being there froze me up. Needless to say im subconciously thinking of how a situation appears to other people especially since that person was earlier close to her.

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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
I don't get what there is to be confused about, she seems to be interested and is making that clear.

I feel like you're overthinking things here and are sending her mixed messages as a result, withholding something as simple as a hug because she got shy after telling you she liked you essentially.

She opened up to you and where you should have taken charge as a man you backed off instead and decided to focus on her shyness. She probably felt rejected by you and as a result withdrew.

As a man you need to take charge and pursue her/vocalise how you feel about her, that is if you want to get anywhere with her.

I just didnt want to come on too strong. Also yeah I agree I am overthinking but that is essentially what being pisces is about and hence I needed your help wonderful people. How do I show her that my interest is genuine and that I just had a semi awkward moment of avoiding PDA. Time is ticking I feel...

Didn't want to come on too strong?? I'm sorry but please cut the pretention. You initiated first and then waited for her.

After all of the obvious signs that she's into you and you taking full advantage of those gifts, no sooner than she gives in than you pull the bait and switch. You said it yourself...you play mind games. The reason you're doing this is to break her so you can gain complete control over her emotions and have power over her. That's your intent.

It's sad. This woman just got out of hell and it looks like the beginning of you putting her right back in it. Right now, she's probably analyzing over and over again where she messed up and it ain't even her fault. I hope she wises up and moves on.

Dude... I was there with her when her boyfriend left her. I was there with her when she cried. when she got sick I got up early to make tea for her and I did these things not to fuck with her but because I actually liked her. Playing mind games is my boon/bane but when it comes to relationships Im sorry it doesnt sound right to most people, but I played those to get with her and not take advantage of her. I actually care for her and spend almost as much time as she does overthinking. Im pisces not scorpio dude :p Love is life.

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And hence you've proven my point. After sitting with her and watching her cry and doing those things, those "noble" actions are now called into question. It appears that your "martyrdom" was for your own ends and less about her welfare because if you truly cared for her you wouldn't put her through the same thing she left or want to bring her harm through mind games. Honor and integrity wins the day sir...not manipulation. Thus isn't about Scorps, Pisces, or Virgos. It's about showing the maturity true love demands from the very beginning.

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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
I don't get what there is to be confused about, she seems to be interested and is making that clear.

I feel like you're overthinking things here and are sending her mixed messages as a result, withholding something as simple as a hug because she got shy after telling you she liked you essentially.

She opened up to you and where you should have taken charge as a man you backed off instead and decided to focus on her shyness. She probably felt rejected by you and as a result withdrew.

As a man you need to take charge and pursue her/vocalise how you feel about her, that is if you want to get anywhere with her.

I just didnt want to come on too strong. Also yeah I agree I am overthinking but that is essentially what being pisces is about and hence I needed your help wonderful people. How do I show her that my interest is genuine and that I just had a semi awkward moment of avoiding PDA. Time is ticking I feel...

Didn't want to come on too strong?? I'm sorry but please cut the pretention. You initiated first and then waited for her.

After all of the obvious signs that she's into you and you taking full advantage of those gifts, no sooner than she gives in than you pull the bait and switch. You said it yourself...you play mind games. The reason you're doing this is to break her so you can gain complete control over her emotions and have power over her. That's your intent.

It's sad. This woman just got out of hell and it looks like the beginning of you putting her right back in it. Right now, she's probably analyzing over and over again where she messed up and it ain't even her fault. I hope she wises up and moves on.

Dude... I was there with her when her boyfriend left her. I was there with her when she cried. when she got sick I got up early to make tea for her and I did these things not to fuck with her but because I actually liked her. Playing mind games is my boon/bane but when it comes to relationships Im sorry it doesnt sound right to most people, but I played those to get with her and not take advantage of her. I actually care for her and spend almost as much time as she does overthinking. Im pisces not scorpio dude :p Love is life.

And hence you've proven my point. After sitting with her and watching her cry and doing those things, those "noble" actions are now called into question. It appears that your "martyrdom" was for your own ends and less about her welfare because if you truly cared for her you wouldn't put her through the same thing she left or want to bring her harm through mind games. Honor and integrity wins the day sir...not manipulation. Thus isn't about Scorps, Pisces, or Virgos. It's about showing the maturity true love demands from the very beginning.

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To be honest, I feel what you are saying is right from your point of view.. However I do not agree with it cause you're casting doubts on my character just taking into account one incident that I have shared with you. I respect your viewpoint but dont agree with your judgement.

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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
I don't get what there is to be confused about, she seems to be interested and is making that clear.

I feel like you're overthinking things here and are sending her mixed messages as a result, withholding something as simple as a hug because she got shy after telling you she liked you essentially.

She opened up to you and where you should have taken charge as a man you backed off instead and decided to focus on her shyness. She probably felt rejected by you and as a result withdrew.

As a man you need to take charge and pursue her/vocalise how you feel about her, that is if you want to get anywhere with her.

I just didnt want to come on too strong. Also yeah I agree I am overthinking but that is essentially what being pisces is about and hence I needed your help wonderful people. How do I show her that my interest is genuine and that I just had a semi awkward moment of avoiding PDA. Time is ticking I feel...

I'm a Pisces as well so I get the overthinking. 🙂

Virgo's overthink too generally but as damnata was saying this girl is being remarkably obvious for a Virgo that she digs you, which you don't always come by in Virgo women. Just don't leave her hanging when she does open up to you.

Why did you feel awkward about showing pda?

With Virgo's, being straight forward and honest will get you a long way. You need to let her know how you feel, not in a grand way necessarily but being open about that you dig her and where you'd like things to go. I know that might not always be easy but I don't see things going further if you keep holding back.

Also from what you've written so far, she doesn't seem like she's playing any games.

Well there were a lot of common people in the building and one of them was walking across nearby and I just got paralyzed due to that for some reason. I usually dont freeze up but it was kind of an emotional moment for me too and another person just being there froze me up. Needless to say im subconciously thinking of how a situation appears to other people especially since that person was earlier close to her.

That's your reason? "Common people in the building"? Someone else being there? So what.

If I'm to believe you and you "freeze up" HERE, then what happens when she *really* needs you, whether in a public or private venue? Woman's been FEEDING you stuff from her hand, ffs.

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Dude, we're both Indian and you have no idea how judgmental and nosy the community generally is. Also I've been manipulated like this by girls before and thus Im not going to be sorry for taking a step back and analyzing all of my routes.

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Posted by btboy1111
Hi, so I am having some trouble with a virgo woman. We met around 5 months ago and then I sort of asked her out but she was going through a bad break up and thus declined. However we kept talking and became good friends. After a while when she got over her breakup she asked me out herself and I naturally complied. After this we became pretty close to each other, we hug each other when we say goodbye and she is touchy towards me, feeds me things with her hands and stuff. Also when we are together she always uses one spoon or plate or whatever and there have been a couple of times we discussed some naughty things which were just between us.

Recently we were talking about ascendants and descendants and she has a pisces descendant(my sun sign) and I have a gemini descendant(her moon sign). She went on to a calculator and read about me and kind of gave me all the hints necessary to find out hers. The descriptions fit us perfectly I am what she wants and she is what I want(from the descendant descriptions) and she was kind of embarrased and shy about it.

Later in the evening when we said goodbye I felt awkward and didnt hug her while saying bye and she had a really weird expression on her face. After which she kind of gives me attention but I know that something is bothering her and we're kind of not directly asking each other to meet or whatever.

This now has me totally confused. Should I power through and ask her out or should I keep playing this stupid mind game that i going on. As a pisces I can play mind games, I dont particularly like them though.

You get the ball thrown to you and then you run in the opposite direction.

This isn't about ridiculastrology or pisces or whatever else. It's about what on earth is messing with your testosterone and preventing you from just easily closing with her. How is it you've never asked her out? How is it that you even have questions about this? Everything is laid out right in front of you (including her, practically, or at least she *was*.) If you were playing games deliberately then you'd *know* what you were doing and what your results would be, so you wouldn't have created this thread unless it was purely to troll everyone.

As it stands I can only assume you're totally oblivious.

Intention is everything. Do what you should have done and ask her out and leave no room for confusion.

Did you never intend to take it further? You could have put the brakes on any time before during *all those other* clear signals. In this case, are we really to believe it was her astrology checking (which, by the way, was in *your* favour) that got you spooked and not all those *other* times?

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care to explain more about problems with closing. Thank you for noticing that and Id appreciate if you help me improve it.

I was always interested. I was just afraid of rejection. Now that I read all of this and my own post its obvious to me that she reacted positively and I just didnt know how to man up and handle it. I think it stems from the fact that she said no to me earlier.

Update: Asked her out, had food, hugged her when we got back. I feel good and love how virgos appreciate a "nice" guy. Just need some more "wisdom" as you said to close and get on with it lol.

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I was always interested. I was just afraid of rejection. Now that I read all of this and my own post its obvious to me that she reacted positively and I just didnt know how to man up and handle it. I think it stems from the fact that she said no to me earlier.

Update: Asked her out, had food, hugged her when we got back. I feel good and love how virgos appreciate a "nice" guy. Just need some more "wisdom" as you said to close and get on with it lol.

Good. 🙂

And "wisdom" here isn't something bought cheaply, nor is it something in ample supply, even when you're older. Always a fool, but with a better memory! I learned more from being an idiot than I ever did from the convenience of watching others (unfortunately; but we learn by doing.)

At any rate, the more you put in your time tripping over your feet, the steadier you'll walk later on. Just remember to remember the lessons. 😉

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I get that im gonna tell her that I like her soon enough cause I know she wont. Kind of anxious about how things will go down but Ill get on with life one way or the other.

Posted by btboy1111
Hi, so I am having some trouble with a virgo woman. We met around 5 months ago and then I sort of asked her out but she was going through a bad break up and thus declined. However we kept talking and became good friends. After a while when she got over her breakup she asked me out herself and I naturally complied. After this we became pretty close to each other, we hug each other when we say goodbye and she is touchy towards me, feeds me things with her hands and stuff. Also when we are together she always uses one spoon or plate or whatever and there have been a couple of times we discussed some naughty things which were just between us.

Recently we were talking about ascendants and descendants and she has a pisces descendant(my sun sign) and I have a gemini descendant(her moon sign). She went on to a calculator and read about me and kind of gave me all the hints necessary to find out hers. The descriptions fit us perfectly I am what she wants and she is what I want(from the descendant descriptions) and she was kind of embarrased and shy about it.

Later in the evening when we said goodbye I felt awkward and didnt hug her while saying bye and she had a really weird expression on her face. After which she kind of gives me attention but I know that something is bothering her and we're kind of not directly asking each other to meet or whatever.

This now has me totally confused. Should I power through and ask her out or should I keep playing this stupid mind game that i going on. As a pisces I can play mind games, I dont particularly like them though.

lol you're my complete opposite, i just realized that 😄