pain

When pain speaks to you, do you listen? Or do you suppress it's cry, banishing it to some remote region of your mind and body?

One should listen to it insted of ignoring it.

Listening it helps in ventilating while suppressing it saffocates us.

Pain of any kind, whether emotional, physical or mental. Pain is the messenger. Is it helpful to shoot the messenger?

Shooting the messenger is a STUPIDITY.

For Physical pain I try to IGNORE. Emotional pain if I ignore it some one else gets screwed up as I get angry.

Mental pain - do not know about it.

Mental pain..:

According to the ancient Indian scripture Patanjali' Yogasutra, people suffer from five types of mental pain -- false knowledge, egoism, attachment, contempt and fear of death.

False knowledge (Avidya)

Spiritually false knowledge is a belief in that which does not exist or which is untrue. Whatever one sees in the world can be divided into two - consciousness on one side and inert matter on the other. Where there is life there is consciousness. Consciousness and life are eternal and everlasting. On the other hand, our material body and the material world surrounding us, imaginary Gods and Goddesses, hell and heaven, ghosts and angels have no real existence. Matter is a form of energy and both scientifically and spiritually it has no real existence. Matter does not know that it exists; it exists in the consciousness of a living being only. A dream is an imagination of a single being; similarly the world is the imagination of all living beings. So to believe in that which does not exist is false knowledge or ignorance. It gives only pain, sorrow and depression to a believer.

Egoism (Asmita)

False knowledge is the mother of all other subsequent pain. When people are in false knowledge they develop false pride over money power, muscle power, people's power or military power. This makes a man egotistical and even a tyrant. Whatever one sees and feels is not real and not one's own. The real thing for a man is his true self and nothing else. It is where a man resides, it is where God resides. It is the source of life, mind, bliss and true wealth and power. So it is foolish to develop egoism over wealth and power lying outside.
Attachment (Raga) - When a man develops unnecessary fondness for worldly objects or enjoyments he suffers from the pain of attachment. Due to ignorance one develops attachment to alcohol, call-girls, gambling or drugs thinking that they are the real source of pleasure. Ultimately a person suffers and does not find lasting pleasure.

Contempt (Dvesh)

Similarly if one develops dislike or contempt for life or for truly wise and benevolent people or for near and dear ones, one shall suffer from the pain of contempt.

Fear of Death (Abhinivesh)

Fear of death is highly dreadful to all. Even wise and mentally strong people start shivering with this fear, because even wise people looking at the natural flow of events -- the cycle of sunrise and sunset, cycle of seasons or flow of a river into the sea -- and believe in them and remain in fear of death. However, natural laws can only govern the material world. The Sun can only rise in the east, whereas a man can rise at 6 a.m. or 8 a.m. This is because man has life and mind. He can think and decide. Natural laws cannot bind a thinking mind. So a man with his will power can bring the cycle of birth and death under his control. Death is dead and lifeless and so how can it take away life?

All those pains can be adjusted with ?pain killers? of any sort..!

But my question is still remains..

When pain speaks to you, do you listen? Or do you suppress it's cry, banishing it to some remote region of your mind and body?

when i am in pain especially when it comes to "relationships" .. romantically, friendships and family .. i speak .. i listen to that cry and let the people around me know that i am hurting .. in this manner, it "somehow" eases the pain ..

although it depends on every situation if i want people to learn more about me of what's hurting me, what i really don't care about .. so if i choose to have you and be a part of my life .. then you're lucky to know that i am hurting .. by showing you the real me .. if a person don't have any idea of what's hurting me .. it only means one thing .. that you're not that important to me ..

it's still better to let someone know that you're hurting than expecting people to know what you're feeling when they're totally ignorant on what's the problem is ..

surpressing one's pain til it goes away only teaches us to care less and lessens the love we have for another but only is for one's own self ..

this holds true .. that when there is pain there is more love ..

that when there is pain there is more love ..

Right on the spot?!

Thank you..

Still, I don't want to hear it from the (VIRGOS).. (for know reason..) 🙂

Kahlil Gibran once said..

"Your joy is your sorrow unmasked. And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears. And how else can it be? The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain"

Sorrow=pain..??

If it is then, is it ?mental? or ?emotional?.??

know=known

Hi Q! How are you my friend?

Great question! For me, I truly believe that when pain shows up, it is an opportunity to love more - an opportunity for healing. When physical pain in the body makes itself known, I quietly send love to this pain for healing and send it my gratefulness for making its presence known for it has shown up to tell me something - usually it is in regard to a thought and once my thought is corrected, the pain leaves.

Love heals all. Love is our true essence.

I think with me (and maybe some other virgos as well) that mental pain and emotional pain are very much the same thing. I always consider virgos to have sort of an airy, mental quality to them (despite being an earth sign) due to being ruled by mercury.

when I have emotional pain it's usually because I spend so much time dwelling upon certain ideas, theories, the way my life is shaping up, etc. I usually never express these to anyone except very and trusted friends (I find that other virgos and scorpios are great people for me to confide in). I think this might have something to do with the virgo "black moods" - we slip into periods where we feel dissatisfied and ill at ease with our current philosophies and ethics and work and feel like a change must be made.

as far as physical pain goes, I usually ignore it until it interferes with my everyday abilities and production ...

All pain comes from our thoughts.

I don't have emotional pain, unless I choose it to be so. Physical is a little harder to send packing, but, not impossible.

As for embracing pain for love growth, I disagree with .. that sounds like martyrdome to me .. which is a destroyer of REAL self-love. It's a mask to wear to make yourself believe that if you sacrific, then this has to be proof to yourself that you would suffer on behalf of love ...

"that sounds like martyrdome to me .. which is a destroyer of REAL self-love."

Well, we each have our own beliefs and thoughts and nothing wrong with that - let me ask you P-A...what is REAL self-love to you? If you don't mind answering - I am just a bit curious...

"Most emotional pain or mental pain is self inflicted."

Indubitably .. that's why I choose not to suffer.

For me growth comes from understanding the process in life is there for the experience .. not the pain because of a disappointment which resulted from an expectation I placed unjustly.

How about the ?logical and moral pain—?

Something that you know it is ?not right? but you are participating in it anyway.

Really..??

Ahh

Identify and eliminate the source.

Is that the Virgo thing..??

Read the damn topic again..! and think about it.

hmmmm .. speaking of unrequited love .. interesting ..

in my own opinion and experience unrequited love is not love at all but merely an illusion .. especially when two people can't be together for some realistic reasons such as material differences -financial differences, career differences, stability, distance, life style , or if they're being inlove with a married/non-single person .. this kind of love comes from the mind and not from the heart ..

realistically and idealistically speaking we all know that love is something that is real and is within reach by anybody .. yet most fear to grow in love and is just contented losing it .. love may be given to us not exactly the same intensity as we are giving/expecting .. it may come in different form/approach yet it still has the same essence ..

it really doesn't need to be that complicated and painful when it comes to loving .. it's only good and bad feelings .. we choose it ..

when one has bad feelings towards something then you're definitely on the wrong track ..

Ehhh

You take it personally..??

Read the damn post carefully..

And? one more thing... I wasn't talked about the interpersonal relationship.

re- read the damn post..

dude

My lovely archer..

different signs may have a different valid reason..

I don't believe on ?different signs may have a different valid reason..? what I believe and respect is a different minds? no matter signs as long as they are legitimate and reasonable with the facts and not ?assumptions? or ?seems to be? stances or eve ?heard of? some thing.

Pain is pain? there is no level to describing it.. be it psychological or physical

I love to be in (grammatical failure), that is my politics since 1998.. but I am sure you know what I mean..

virgos wont breathe easy unless they have a good reason for the next breath.

Hmmm?.. oh well..! like the statements above..!

I agree with Roxi on this point:

"feel it as much as is possible, allow it to consume you and then you can begin to understand your responses to it.....or what it is telling you should be your response."

My problem is that I'll allow it to consume me, then get lost in it.
It took me a long time to realize that pain is there to let you know that *something is WRONG*! I used to just get overwhelmed by it and then want to avoid it.

Now I feel it and have learned to trace it back to where it began, see why I have it, then figure out what I can do about it - if anything.

If I can do something about it, then I start to feel better because I know I can fix it which always makes me feel better.
If I can't do something about it, I try to let it go since there's nothing I can do about it, so there's no sense in being all upset over it.

🙂

There's really no point in "embrassing" the pain but if you feel you're in pain then why not just let it be? If you ignore it completely then you are in denial. But if you just accept it, but not force it, you will see it pass as well.

"emotional pain can motivate us to achieve much more proactively than being in a state of contentment can."

That statement is so very true.

hahahhaha

what an incredibly gay thread topic! lmao