The Virgo Consensus : A Woman's Scorn (Page 2)

nice guys make it ;ast plain and simple..

Posted by sortilege85

Like you said women truly want a man who hurts them and doesn't give'em love that's why they stay for so long because once they do that it's like a drug that is needed and needed and needed. We only end up with women whom the real men can't handle which are the pyschos, but it is life man. It is inevitable, ignorant women whom think they can handle a player or a real man are always hurt and complaining and the good men are always on the side-lines, but it shouldn't matter to you... honestly.

How can there be hope for us, if that is the reality of things?
I knew this since I was 16, I believed it.
But the "chance" or "thrill" of some new girl being different often blinds me.
This makes me so angry and sick to my stomach.

I have grown up with players, cheaters and drug users, so i know it all like the back of my hand. Really it's just an attitude adjustment to get even the most faithful of women. It's all a game and all a joke for most people to reel others in.

*long sigh*

I don't like to be biased nor do i like to make it seem like life is all like this and of course there are women who will choose a guy like us, but that is only after they've been screwed over and that doesn't happen till their about 40 or older when they need a man to take care of them.

Bingo.

I forgot that i was going to private message you how to keep a good girl, but i might as well say it now. You just have to be ambitious with what you have, protective and possessive (but not to the extreme) to keep them wanting more. If somebody replies with a disagreement then they are bullshitting themselves.

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I'd have to find one first lol

well caj i see me and u are in the same boat.. ur problem is the same as mine and every other virgo i have seen.. i know the women who complain that there virgo is evil is going to get mad at wat im about to say but its the truth.. its not them thats evil its u.. virgo guys we are reallll lay back most things don't effect us.. at first women love this about us.. and than they get mad.. i guess bc we are not quote on quote mascline enough.. so i have to be an ass hole every once in a well.. to me thats fake and if aint bothering me im not going to be mad.. than they just keep pushing until we blow up than we virgos are the one who is crazy.. look i say hit and quit bc i like fucking.. really sum times i don't want to have nothing to do with women.. sum times they sicken me.. but i like fucking lol.. i have the same ideals as u i like to talk about my problems in a relastionship.. most women are not down with that.. they say they r but there not and that i don't like..

sorry for all the typos but i use my phone when im on here and it sucks lol

Posted by GeorgiaPeach
"once he taps into his masculine energy these kind of women won't come near him or at the most won't stay too long....psycho cookiemonsteres must rule and bully and push or she's not content."

My best friend who is a Cancer is like that. But she hooked up with a Cappy who takes none of her bull. She lives with him in his house and one day he sent her butt packing. She called me and said he kicked her out. Then she told me the story. She became angry with him when she told him to take the trash out and he didnt. She kept talking crap and he told her if she didnt like it she could leave. So she left and told everyone he kicked her out. lol

LOL@So she left and told everyone he kicked her out

oh a Cap man will check a woman real fast, he will not be pushed nor manipulated into doing anything...sounds like a Cap to me, he will make a bossy needy woman kick rocks real fast.

Posted by virgoking
well caj i see me and u are in the same boat.. ur problem is the same as mine and every other virgo i have seen.. i know the women who complain that there virgo is evil is going to get mad at wat im about to say but its the truth.. its not them thats evil its u..

It's plain and simple, we attract women who are treetrunking bonkers.
The ones that are good for us "want a challenge".

How utterly retarded 🙂

virgo guys we are reallll lay back most things don't effect us.. at first women love this about us.. and than they get mad.. i guess bc we are not quote on quote mascline enough.. so i have to be an ass hole every once in a well.. to me thats fake and if aint bothering me im not going to be mad.. than they just keep pushing until we blow up than we virgos are the one who is crazy..

We are what women "think" they want.
Not what they "need".

sum times they sicken me..

The state of affairs where they are concerned, always sickens me.

i have the same ideals as u i like to talk about my problems in a relastionship.. most women are not down with that.. they say they r but there not and that i don't like..

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It's the damned truth.

Posted by Cajunspirit

Posted by tiki33
he's attracted to psycho bitches because he secretly likes being bossed and pushed around probably won't admit it though, feminine is attracted to masculine so in his case he's embracing that part of himself and will most likely always end up with psycho bitches, once he taps into his masculine energy these kind of women won't come near him or at the most won't stay too long....psycho bitches must rule and bully and push or she's not content.

I believe in fulfilling each other, on the same level.
Sure I can lead all the time, but does she like that?

I have never been bossed or pushed around, I always hold my ground take some of theirs in the process.

I'm an Earth boy with a Capricorn Ascendent, immovable.

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A real woman wants you to lead all the time and allow yourself to be influenced by her when she understands you my not be strong in certain areas of the relationship, I want a man to lead me right into love and surrender and the only way he can get me there is to lead me with confidence and strength. Let that Capricorn ascendent LEAD, you will be much happier, gosh I love cap men too bad I'm too weird to keep one LOL

Posted by tiki33

A real woman wants you to lead all the time and allow yourself to be influenced by her when she understands you my not be strong in certain areas of the relationship, I want a man to lead me right into love and surrender and the only way he can get me there is to lead me with confidence and strength. Let that Capricorn ascendent LEAD, you will be much happier, gosh I love cap men too bad I'm too weird to keep one LOL

Haha, leading isn't a problem but the few times I gave into my "Masculinity" I felt very pushy and aggressive.
Internally I felt uncomfortable, so I hold back that part of me a lot.

Lead all the time huh? Haha.

Posted by sortilege85
Simple guideline...

Confidence, gentle personality, good humor, and the ability to say what is on your mind when being irritated to angered...

LV that is something many young virgos need to learn, unless they are already angry people (much like myself), and they have to learn how to say what ticks them off at the right time or they save it like taurus and me to give them a good kick on the ass.

I was a horribly angry Teenager, I let go most of it though 🙂
Still an angry person lol

This is a quote that a woman told me when she was with her man and that was,
"When there is no problems in the relationship then there is something wrong" this is how they think and when you hear that you just want to vomit out of your ass, but that is how they see it...

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CRAZY AS HELL MAN

Haha, leading isn't a problem but the few times I gave into my "Masculinity" I felt very pushy and aggressive.
Internally I felt uncomfortable, so I hold back that part of me a lot.

Lead all the time huh? Haha.

Oh gosh your exhausting, you wear me out emotionally and I'm not even dating you.....I guess that's why I deal with masculine men, they just don't do too much talking LOL

Posted by tiki33

Oh gosh your exhausting, you wear me out emotionally and I'm not even dating you.....I guess that's why I deal with masculine men, they just don't do too much talking LOL

LOL

You prefer to be the one doing all the talking?
Trying to figure out his emotions?
Enjoying him ignoring you?

Posted by Cajunspirit

Posted by tiki33

Oh gosh your exhausting, you wear me out emotionally and I'm not even dating you.....I guess that's why I deal with masculine men, they just don't do too much talking LOL

LOL

You prefer to be the one doing all the talking?
Trying to figure out his emotions?
Enjoying him ignoring you?

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LOL

Yep exactly...Let me be a girl sometimes, some women complain but we really do enjoy the drama until we tire of it and SEEK out more marriage mind type men.

Posted by tiki33

LOL

Yep exactly...Let me be a girl sometimes, some women complain but we really do enjoy the drama until we tire of it and SEEK out more marriage mind type men.

I am soooo screwed 😛

Posted by Cajunspirit

Posted by tiki33

LOL

Yep exactly...Let me be a girl sometimes, some women complain but we really do enjoy the drama until we tire of it and SEEK out more marriage mind type men.

I am soooo screwed 😛

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LMAO!! Nah your young, have plenty time to figure out what fits, once you hit your stride nothing will get in your way.

Posted by tiki33

Posted by Cajunspirit


I am soooo screwed 😛

LMAO!! Nah your young, have plenty time to figure out what fits, once you hit your stride nothing will get in your way.

I am a Marriage minded guy!!!

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom


Keep your condescending shit to yourself, little byotch..

Geez..someones got to keep this little kitty's jupiter-sized Ego in check.

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She's almost as annoying as Satori...

dont worry my dude u will get it ready when ur ready 2 get it lmfao

and thanks 85 i keep it 100% and simple.


yes virgos is a feminine sign so what ruled by mercury

and Taurus is more feminine cuz they are venus ruled they are just stubborn and dats what makes them look masculine virgo are mutable and go with that why very easy going lmfao

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
cajun, I have a slightly different take on this..

I expected no less.

The only type of women you can really bother about and give a genuine chance are women you have met through shared interests/hobbies/activities, etc, THAT in itself creates an automatic link between the two of you and lots of stimulating conversation, without things looking forced and giving time and opportunity for things to grow naturally. These type of women you can consider relationship material for the most part.

I KNOW, it's the true Virgo way.
But these stupid girls just friend zone me!
It's hard to know them well enough before being friend zoned. Learning to gauge when to be aggressive isn't easy.

I personally never bother with women who smoke or drink too much, its not only disgusting..it also gives a certain indication that they arent up to anything serious.

I could not agree more.

All you truly have to focus on is YOU, YOURSELF, when you know who you are, when you truly know what you are and what you are not and actually STICK TO IT, and play it smart, you'll automatically get respect from women, men, etc whether they share your ways or not, they'll respect you; thats because when you truly find out who you are, you naturally give off an aura of "I dont give a shit" that makes people take instant notice of you and give you a second look. When you truly know yourself, accept who you are and..LOVE who you are, in your mind you sort of feel invincible, you feel that whatever outcome of any situation is..you can always fall back on YOURSELF, YOUR LIFE, YOUR HOBBIES, YOUR WORK, YOUR FRIENDS, in other words YOU ARE THE PRIZE, not any woman, she should feel fortunate you give her even the time of day, thats the type of mentality any man with self-respect should adopt.

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*takes off his hat*

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
When you get at that stage of what I explained above, you dont even need to play games with women to keep them interested or act like a jerk, you'll naturally NOT pay them attention when they dont deserve it, and this will drive them mad (in a good way) to the point of asking themselves "why isnt he paying me attention? doesnt he find me attractive? maybe theres something wrong with me? they'll most probably try to get your attention because you have unconsciously sent the message "Im ok with or without you around me".

Thats the type of men most women want, someone who cares first and foremost about respecting himself more than respecting her.

Yep, totally agree

"But these stupid girls just friend zone me!"

Yeah they will always do that when your catering to her feelings sll the time, keep your feminine side but use it sparingly and the friend zone BS will most likely happen less and less...This is why I like some not all but some of the pick up artist techniques they teach men how to stay OUT of the friend zone day one, how to be confident and be themselves depending on the teacher of these techniques, I like the natural kind not the game playing kind...

all i can i say love ur self live life be happy be healthy and finally be you owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 🙂 lmao

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
When you get at that stage of what I explained above, you dont even need to play games with women to keep them interested or act like a jerk, you'll naturally NOT pay them attention when they dont deserve it, and this will drive them mad (in a good way) to the point of asking themselves "why isnt he paying me attention? doesnt he find me attractive? maybe theres something wrong with me? they'll most probably try to get your attention because you have unconsciously sent the message "Im ok with or without you around me".

Thats the type of men most women want, someone who cares first and foremost about respecting himself more than respecting her.

Hmmmm... this stands out the most. Thank you Shaka_laka_boomboom.

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom

I'll give you an example..

My current gf, I met her through shared interests (we are both at the same students association)

Do you know how much time went from the moment I first met her, to the moment I first kissed her?

2 weeks.

🙂

Tomorrow will be our first anniversary btw 🙂

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It was pretty much the same way with my ex Sag... and Aries... oh well.

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
ahh..no need to thank me dude 🙂 you're a cool fella.

You did not have to share your experience with me, let me appreciate ya holmes! 😛

wow, looking at all the info u were given, i'm calling bullshit on most of it.

u know what, cajun? u just be u. we live in a world of gray area. tiki and nyc show some truth in what they say... to an extent. they both sound like they have female issues to me. shit, nyc said that he makes sure he degrades women if they give him any lip. i'm not condoning their behavior but to go as far as degrading someone? not only is that unnecessary but it's fucked up and cowardly. straight up ghetto is what that is... how is that respectable again?

i don't often agree with what u have to say or the views u have. i respect ur right to have them and i only hope u grow from it. i'm not always right either.

i see u on here talking about relationships often. while u are mature in many ways, u are still only 21. u may have harnessed and collected the wisdom of an older man but u still lack in life experience which counts a LOT. especially in regards to interactions with others and interpersonal communication.

my biggest fear for u, on here anyway, is that u will invest too much thought into the information being given to u. i know u are smart and u analyze everything but u are still only human and fall prey to the human condition. when the same thing is told to u repeatedly, after a while u start to believe it.

u can, and will, achieve what u want in all aspects of ur life. learn to allow the process to flow. feel it out and embrace transformation. we are always growing and there are no right or wrong answers. only questions.

Cajun, by no means have I read this entire thread (sorry but i'm feeling lazy haha), but i'm going against what Tiki said in this case (page 3)...

Yes, it may be the way that things work for a majority of women, but you don't want that kind of woman do you— You want someone special... I completely understand you, because i'm very similar to you in this regard. I won't put on some act just to attract the kind of person that I don't want to be with anyway hahaha - that makes no sense to me, i'd wind up unhappy very quickly and i'm sure that the incompatibility would be GLARING as soon as the act was dropped. I don't do games or any of that shit lol...

Really, all you can do is keep meeting women until you find the right one. When you reach a point where you think a girl you're seeing isn't the right one for you, then give her the flick coz there's no point in wasting your time or hers - and it only leads to more hurt the longer you keep it going. If you feel that someone needs to change drastically in order to be with you (as I recall there being tones of this with your Sag ex with the whole smoking thing etc), then be careful taking that path because people can end up resenting you for it down the track (either that or the change will only last a very short period of time), and resentment is not something that you want festering in a relationship which you are contemplating for marriage.

I've been on the receiving end of some nasty and childish behaviour before from ex's, you just gotta keep being the mature one - don't "react", don't be petty, none of that shit... Even if you feel like responding harshly, it's always best to give yourself a little bit of time and soften it first because there is nothing to be gained from hurting another person, even if they are trying to hurt you - it's only destructive, and it only keeps the situation burning instead of snuffing it out. Be kind, but be firm in your position....If someone starts getting petty with me I simply stop responding to them - once they realise i'm not going to bend to their will, they usually leave me alone 🙂

Oh and as for the stuff about women liking and staying with men who treat them like crap...Again, that may work for alot of women, but not all. Don't resort to that stuff Cajun, you'll find yourself a nice lady one day who will be so appreciative of you!!

Any guy gives me that bad boy shit, treat em mean keep em keen or whatever, I flip him off coz that is a GAME and I want no part in it. I actually feel repelled by that kind of behaviour...So keep that in mind Caj, it may give you some hope that not all women are the same lol...

Good luck, I really hope you find someone who deserves you 🙂

Thanks all... I fear this will always be an on going issue in life though...

Posted by fourthwallbreaker
I'm on thr Legendary Virgo bandwagon

OOOOWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 1!!!11!!!! 😛😛

i turn my back and im missed already owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww lmao

thanks anywho its all good.

Posted by fourthwallbreaker
zing!
(no real offence meant btw, LV)
Shakalaka does make a good point though 🙂
And yeah, some Women try and be cruel when they can't have their own way, I think Cajun has worked that one out,I don't think he needs to fill his head with the nonsense on here outside of the compliments 🙂

none taking have ur fun homie.

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
*continuing on the LV's impersonation attempt* ..


LMFAO owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww cajun its ya leo moon, i know i have leo moon too LFMAO owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

EPIC FAIL OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW LMFAO

Now that's how its dun.

Posted by seavixen
yes, the girl will come along. I used to like those "badboy" types when I was young but imma big girl now and see beyond that shit you don't have to be a badboy to be a bad boy in the sheets..oooooooowwwww😉

LMFAO U LOVE IT OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW LAMO

Posted by DyTryin

You just haven't met your match yet.

Took me 30 frickin' years... oh wait! That's not good news, is it??

Haha, it just means the path is long and winding, with many bumps(bitches) along the way.

Posted by LeGendary ViRGo

Posted by seavixen
yes, the girl will come along. I used to like those "badboy" types when I was young but imma big girl now and see beyond that shit you don't have to be a badboy to be a bad boy in the sheets..oooooooowwwww😉

LMFAO U LOVE IT OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW LMAO

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She likes that Boom Boom PAW! lol

BOOM BOOM POW LMFAO I GOT THAT ROCK AND ROLL THAT FUTURE FLOW LMFAO

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