Men should always be predators..and more than likely the ones interested in you will be...any man who wants to be a prey is no man at all...later on there will always be trouble..
My aunty said the other day "I can't believe how women are these days, running after one man or another begging for their affection..back in our courting days, men were lucky if they even got a glimpse of us alone and that always kept them chasing, wanting more..men should always chase..women are to be pursued, not be the pursuer.."..
I agree with decan that wood work i like to tell people if they like a virgo just mirrior him back what ever he does mirror it back and he will be chasing u all over the place.
Both virgos that I have known started out casual then cold... and after I got bored and lost interest was when they became the persuers. But even now I still can't figure out if they really wanted to be with me or liked the boost of ego they got from knowing they had someone of the opposite sex who wanted to be with them.
I would have to disagree with that assessment. Virgo's want to relish in the constant and comforting stability of reliability, and would actually tend to shy away from a challenge when it comes to terms of endearment.
Virgo's like everything in order ... especially the terms of their heart as it's shared with another. I'm unclear why people think Virgos would want a challenge when it comes to their love-life?
They are the complete opposite, actually ... they want it to be firm, solid and reliable ... not competitive.
25thDecan: You need to give some sort of hint. I.E. a REAL hint, like a smile. Otherwise for a virgo, you're just a flirt and possibly a liar.
Amen!
Most of us are Nice Guys, not whore-hoppers. You have to let us know if there's a chance, or we won't approach you as more than just friend - even if we have stronger feelings than that - we're CAUTIOUS...
P-Angel: I'm unclear why people think Virgos would want a challenge when it comes to their love-life?
I don't mind a challenge, but I'm not going to compete if the odds are too much against me! If a woman hints that's she's interested in me, and I feel the same towards her, I will compete against any other guys who are also interested - let her decide who the best man is... I did that with the Taurus back in college. She had several guys hitting on her before I nabbed her!
Yes, we want a stable reliable partner in a relationship. But, us mature ones know from experience that the start of things is going to be crazy, and we can't expect perfection from day one. We don't like it, but we'll tolerate it if we see something solid developing from the pain & suffering.
Doesn't matter though, some women do not listen and will never learn. I've never seen a scenario where the woman chased the man work out to the benefit of the female in the long run.
In terms of who makes the first move....Women always make the first move...
the smile or lingering eye contact... it gives the man, well a nice guy, the confidence to approach.
But yes, I believe the guy should do the chasing. BUT unfortunately the world is not made of women like myself and a few others, which only makes it harder for me and my kind...*le sigh*
I always make the first move with the guy I deem worthy...subtle indeed, but always gets the ball rolling. Then the chase ensues; by the time their done they dont even remember how it all got started.
😢 I think I've blown it with my virg...after such a great day on Saturday..It's too personal to mention here but I could've been a little more understanding..we both didn't know how to deal with the situation..and I don't think he's coming back from it..too much of a pride issue..
For such a short time..it really hurts..I really liked him. He was a good un...I know if I chase, he will just distance himself further..so it's best if I leave it..
MissMorals: Sorry to hear 😢. I hope he's worth it to just to talk it over (and I mean TALK, not chase)
You guys had me thinking about this thread for awhile this morning. For me, the challenge isn't about competing with other guys for a ladies affections. I'm with Dy in the fact that its about winning a gal over, not about proving you're better than "Other Guy X". There's a difference, perhaps subtle, but it's there.
The "Challenge" for me is about that gal that has the ability to get under your skin and influences who I am as a man. Its not that she's perfect, in fact she's probably the biggest pain in the ass but for that same reason alone, it keeps bringing me back to her. She's challenging because she's an individual, her own self, different from who I am, but yet compliments who I am and inspires me to be better. Its the difference between having a girl who needs a Knight in Shining armor, and that girl who is your Partner in Crime.
The following song lyrics may sum it up best: Though my views may be wrong, They may even be perverted She'll hear me out, and won't easily be converted To my way of thinking, In fact she'll often disagree But at the end of it all, She will understand me
Now a few of you have commented about how the Virgo man does not seek the challenge. Keep in mind that if we're going off the old pre-conceived notions that the Virgo man seeks absolute perfection...
Then for me, having a "challenging" girl is.... perfect.
(Note: None of this changes the fact that the Virgo man is usually a PAIN IN THE ASS 😛)
I am not going to chase but I don't want it to end. I think we can sort this out by talking...I just don't know whether to phone him and ask to meet or what. It's been 3 days..he used to be in contact every day.
I don't like drama, neither do I like causing it. In this instance both of us need to tell each other something..and that doesn't mean declaring love..no way..too early for that..I do really like him and don't want it to end so abruptly..but I don't know whether he as a man can come back from it or even wants to. But silence is often miscontstrued..and he is a firm believer of if something is wrong, talk it out and move on from it. His last words were I will analyze the situation and get back to you with my decision...that's why I have left it for 3 days..but my virgo friend (known her for 3 years) says, that's his way of saying "you've overstepped the mark and go away basically"....Not sure what to do.
I don't want to forget about him because he means something to me...I can easily move on but don't want to in this instance. I think this is worth the fight. Or at least a talk. If he thinks i've overstepped the mark, then I will gladly apologise and move on if thats what he wants. 😢
Sort of difficult to judge the outcome based on a "personal thing" that happened to hurt his pride. Honestly some guys just want time along after a misconstrued argument or discussion as he said and being a Virgo, to analyze and get back to you with a decision.
Would help to know the severity of the statements you made to him in this situation before drawing conclusions. There is no assumption that he just wants to break it off instead of trying again after if there is a sincere apology.
Can't call it without all the info. To go away may just mean he needs his Virgo alone and analyzing time. Silence can be golden sometimes, especially when a man needs his cave time.
Won't ask you to elaborate if it's truly personal.
My aunty said the other day "I can't believe how women are these days, running after one man or another begging for their affection..back in our courting days, men were lucky if they even got a glimpse of us alone and that always kept them chasing, wanting more..men should always chase..women are to be pursued, not be the pursuer.."..
Oh yeah, totally agree with your aunty -- if I have to beg than theres no point. Theres just no way, I can't even picture that really.
Thanks guys..I needed reassurance..I don't think he's ended it..because he would've said it..I am sure of it. He needed analyzing time so I am giving him that..I don't mind waiting..although as you know, patience is NOT my strength..but am learning..Wish I had some calming influence in my chart but oh boy..all the planets are in house 1..I do come off very fire..not water..but hikoro..I shall defo watch that tongue..it's viscious.
The problem is too personal unfortunately so I won't/can't say and I know for you guys how difficult it is to predict the outcome based on such a small amount of information. But if he talks, then I will be very understanding about it..and I know we can overcome it. I hope he is analysing and not giving up. I hope he respects the fact that I am leaving him to it..and not thinking that I don't care..cos I do..if he deduces the information, he'll know that even in the rant, it was because I cared.
He has a venus/mars in Scorpio..so must be feeling the intensity..I don't know. He is sooooooo stubborn!! Rarrrr. But oh I could eat him.
Bella thanks for your suggestion. I am giving it a week. That is long enough to analyze the situation. I will text him on Sunday. I am sure he will respond. I am prepared if he decides to end it. It will be sad but I have to move on I guess. Time is important to this guy in all sense of the word. So I don't want to waste his neither will he want to waste mine.
1. If HE is the Problem, he should make the first move. 2. IF YOU are the Problem, he might make the first move
It's a combination of both. But I could've been more sensitive towards the problem..a lot more sensitive..I didn't handle it well simply because I have not come across it before..I didn't say anything malicious was just inquisitive..I just flew off the handle about another issue the following day..should've let it go not add salt to the wound. My virgo friend said it's 70/30 my fault..
The KEY: How powerful is the attraction between you? I would say very..we are really affectionate with each other and barely keep our hands off each other..very touchy/feely..He was the first one to tell me about this and declare it as well.
Also: How long were you A Couple? Not long, just a couple of months..but we have been in contact continuously and seen each other many times despite his absence for a while for work. He was in touch all the time he was abroad..
VirGuy will invest more effort if either of those two factors is BIG.
** I would text him this weekend -- not call & put him on the spot. **
Thanks Dy..that's exactly what I intended to do. I don't want to phone because if he doesn't pick up then well I can't say what I have to. With a text, I know he will read it..whether he chooses to respond or not then is his decision..but I don't think he will ignore it..whatever the outcome he will text I am sure of it.
Not sure what to say in the text..don't want it to be a heavy one..
Not to worry, normal services resume...he got in contact himself last night...and several texts today (unlike him as he never texts during the day). Wanted to meet up last night..yeah right..at that hour!..I don't think so..We are both busy at work..
Shall see what happens after our little talk next week...just need to lay down a few ground rules in a civilised manner of course and I am sure things will be just fine again.
🙂
The snow has started again..gosh!
The venus retrograde is doing things...an old Capricorn got in contact today out of the blue...I haven't spoken to him in like a year..weird..
Missy: I could've been more sensitive towards the problem & I just flew off the handle about another issue the following day & My virgo friend said it's 70/30 my fault
Now... he got in contact himself last night & just need to lay down a few ground rules in a civilised manner
Okay, he made the first move towards a reconciliation. My advice: Tread lightly when y'all meet and talk, because in my experience, S & V suck at communicationing strong emotional content - especially in the beginning. It gets better, but words tend to get in the way - even after 3 years!
Your body language & tone will matter more than what you say. You can hurt each other more than either of you will let on, but the pain will still be there below the surface...
Remember: If He cares about You, your opinions / attitudes / beliefs matter - he will take them seriously...
Debra can shut me down with a glance, and I can put her in a moody brood with one stupid comment.
But on the bright side: We talk more than we argue, and we laugh more than we fume...
No I don't have any intention of being disloyal..as I really like the guy but he has to know that he can't just disappear without notice..if he needs downtime, he's more than welcome to it..but don't disrespect me by just disappearing and reapparing when you feel like it..I don't work to his schedule..we both have lives..
Of course I am not going to be confrontational just in the most loving way. He called again last night..was sulking that I didn't go to see him...but come on..I am not going to get out of my bed and go see you at that hour..that's just ridiculous..then I couldn't meet with him tonight as I am not at home..he's called twice already. I am not playing any games with him..but he has to realise, just as he tries to slot me into his busy schedule..I will do the same..
I am hoping things will smooth over next week..I am utterly charming to him always..Will keep all posted...glad he's back..although a little pissy..lol
Will call him in a bit...going for a cigarette..awwww my baby...I am not going to do any kind of emotional outbursts until he's comfortable..I will do what I do best..be goofy..he likes that..we have such a blast when we are both being silly...bless him..I feel like kissing him now!..arrrgh..but I must go have fun..
Ciao
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do they prefer to pursued, or to be the one doing the chasing?
i don't wanna come on too strong and scare him away (;