The collapse of Mueller and his report (USA)

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The Mueller hearings were bad theatre, even by the low standards of US politics.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/07/25/the-collapse-of-mueller-and-his-report/

This part of the Hearald article was especially poignant:

"An epic disservice was done to the American people with the launch of the Mueller investigation and the selection of its namesake as the lead. The country has been burdened by a prolonged national distraction for nearly three years and the payoff is an inconclusive and now discredited report that its author cannot defend, explain or undergird whatsoever with his own words.

What’s more, Mueller made it clear that his investigation was never curtailed by President Trump.

Now, there are more questions to answer: Who really oversaw the investigators? By all appearances yesterday it is fair to speculate that Mueller’s own colleagues could have easily run roughshod over him or at least manipulated him adequately to satisfaction of their whims."

Now I don't go as far as saying poor Mueller. He was involved in the Uranium One fiasco that general media doesnt like to talk about. Just for fun, I used Google to search and yes, it's pretty obvious they're tinkering with the algorithm to skew results.

It was obvious Mueller was NOT the one who wrote the report. And although questions were asked, the hearings avoided anything about how the whole investigation got started, which is key.

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“the hearings avoided anything about how the whole investigation got started”

The whole thing started to appease the average American, nothing more, this kind of things happens every once in a while, the mainstream need to think they are progressive, the luminaire of the world, they have been like this since their manifest destiny BS, so the political overlords accepted some “investigation” that would shift the blame to the Russians, ofc cuz no way americans could have chosen someone like trump for president, I mean, they are the luminaires of the world after all

After vietnam, funding and protecting dictatorships over latin America, leaving the middle east all tittsups, the US is oh so mad that a bunch of Russians bots spread propaganda in social media, and the common hillbilly drank every word of it, and ofc, the whole hacking into Hillary servers, which’s certainly IS collusion.

But the problem can’t be that the average American is an uncultured monkey, or that Hillary shouldn’t be a crooked bitch like all politicians, oh no, is the Russians and their shady tactics (that happen to look a lot like what the CIA did over the years) that btw didn’t manage to get trump the popular vote mind you.

Anyway Trump DID try to mess with the investigation, why deny it, he’s that stupid and full of himself, there’s no question about it, probably no one ever though he tried something like that, but the guy is no politician, he doesn’t care about law, he is used to do what he want like most billionaires, and now no one want to prosecute the guy for it cuz is an awful precedent, lmao the president being impeached cuz he tried to stop some phony investigation by the DOJ? oh America…. You really outdone yourself this time.

Gods know what that mueller dude was told to appear with such a loss expression in that hearing, I bet it was something along the line of “hell nah, we aren’t impeaching the president are you nuts!?” lmao “go out there and say something, anything, but don’t fuck it up” 🤣
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“the hearings avoided anything about how the whole investigation got started”

The whole thing started to appease the average American, nothing more, this kind of things happens every once in a while, the mainstream need to think they are progressive, the luminaire of the world, they have been like this since their manifest destiny BS, so the political overlords accepted some “investigation” that would shift the blame to the Russians, ofc cuz no way americans could have chosen someone like trump for president, I mean, they are the luminaires of the world after all

After vietnam, funding and protecting dictatorships over latin America, leaving the middle east all tittsups, the US is oh so mad that a bunch of Russians bots spread propaganda in social media, and the common hillbilly drank every word of it, and ofc, the whole hacking into Hillary servers, which’s certainly IS collusion.

But the problem can’t be that the average American is an uncultured monkey, or that Hillary shouldn’t be a crooked bitch like all politicians, oh no, is the Russians and their shady tactics (that happen to look a lot like what the CIA did over the years) that btw didn’t manage to get trump the popular vote mind you.

Anyway Trump DID try to mess with the investigation, why deny it, he’s that stupid and full of himself, there’s no question about it, probably no one ever though he tried something like that, but the guy is no politician, he doesn’t care about law, he is used to do what he want like most billionaires, and now no one want to prosecute the guy for it cuz is an awful precedent, lmao the president being impeached cuz he tried to stop some phony investigation by the DOJ? oh America…. You really outdone yourself this time.

Gods know what that mueller dude was told to appear with such a loss expression in that hearing, I bet it was something along the line of “hell nah, we aren’t impeaching the president are you nuts!?” lmao “go out there and say something, anything, but don’t fuck it up” 🤣

Damn I thought I would never witness the day

you wrote something stupid

oh well
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you can always blame the mercury retro.

but by all means, is a big post, what is there that you hate so much? I'm willing to discuss it.
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“the hearings avoided anything about how the whole investigation got started”

The whole thing started to appease the average American, nothing more, this kind of things happens every once in a while, the mainstream need to think they are progressive, the luminaire of the world, they have been like this since their manifest destiny BS, so the political overlords accepted some “investigation” that would shift the blame to the Russians, ofc cuz no way americans could have chosen someone like trump for president, I mean, they are the luminaires of the world after all

After vietnam, funding and protecting dictatorships over latin America, leaving the middle east all tittsups, the US is oh so mad that a bunch of Russians bots spread propaganda in social media, and the common hillbilly drank every word of it, and ofc, the whole hacking into Hillary servers, which’s certainly IS collusion.

But the problem can’t be that the average American is an uncultured monkey, or that Hillary shouldn’t be a crooked bitch like all politicians, oh no, is the Russians and their shady tactics (that happen to look a lot like what the CIA did over the years) that btw didn’t manage to get trump the popular vote mind you.

Anyway Trump DID try to mess with the investigation, why deny it, he’s that stupid and full of himself, there’s no question about it, probably no one ever though he tried something like that, but the guy is no politician, he doesn’t care about law, he is used to do what he want like most billionaires, and now no one want to prosecute the guy for it cuz is an awful precedent, lmao the president being impeached cuz he tried to stop some phony investigation by the DOJ? oh America…. You really outdone yourself this time.

Gods know what that mueller dude was told to appear with such a loss expression in that hearing, I bet it was something along the line of “hell nah, we aren’t impeaching the president are you nuts!?” lmao “go out there and say something, anything, but don’t fuck it up” 🤣

Damn I thought I would never witness the day

you wrote something stupid

oh well

you can always blame the mercury retro.

but by all means, is a big post, what is there that you hate so much? I'm willing to discuss it.

Minimizing Russian influence on the 2016 Elections

Minimizing Trumps obvious criminality

if this was such a SHAM than why did Mueller indict 30+ individuals, 6 who are the closest to the president?
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not about minimizing the Russians, but if the people was educated enough to not believe every single lie that appear in ‘social media’ of all places, then there would be a good president, heck good politicians if that’s even a thing, but nope, and they believe those lies because they are already biased lets not ignore that, AND EVEN SO, trump didn’t get the popular vote.

also not minimizing trumps obvious criminality, in fact I said “Trump DID try to mess with the investigation” and that’s a crime, why would I deny it.

“why did Mueller indict 30+”

AFAIK, most are charged with “making false statements” aka LYING, like the coach roaches they are, which I think get along with the “closest to the president” thing, but besides the investigations revealing, tax frauds, money laundering and I think even identity fraud, most are not indicted for what the investigation original purpose was, the russian thing, so if anyone had taken the trouble to investigate before or after the campaign, they would have been charged, but ofc nobody cared until things got really messy.
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Mueller indicted everyone EXCEPT trump. That’s what’s funny

He can't indict a sitting president

he said its still possible after president leaves office

I meant......

He never specifically wrote just how he was involved OR about his knowledge. He can’t indict him but if he was involved......he could have included that. He didn’t and so.......
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He did give specifics. Loads of specifics.

Lemme guess...you didn't read the report just cherry picked passages by fox and friends. Typical.
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So apparently we both watch a completely different hearing. Not surprising cause all the op posts is fake news and articles written with political bias.

I found Mueller to be stoic, impartial, and measured with his responses...unlike the emotional diarrhea of both the republicans and democrats.

This report has far more reaching implications than just trump and co. This report is about how vulnerable our political system is to foreign influences.
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Notice under what category this was published:

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This is Fake News.

How so?

How so?

It's not news. It's an editorial. Opinion. Propaganda. Another snowflake middle aged white man passing off his opinions as facts.
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The editorial is talking about what was in hearings. That doesnt make it "fake".

I watched them.

Mueller could not answer basic questions on information contained in the report that bears his name.

And yes, there are real questions over Fusion GPS, how a FISA warrant was obtained and continued (the implication that elements within the government committed fraud), etc..

And the origins are substantial to the case.

After 3 years, this is what we get. Its pathetic.
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Conservatives seem to conveniently forget that Bill Clinton was impeached due to illegal activity by Linda Tripp (who actually was indicted). These crocodile tears they shed over how information obtained that led to Trump being investigated is just plain hilarious.

and bill clinton was acquitted during the impeachment and fulfilled his second term.

I don't understand why there is so much "impeach!" throw around, its stupid and useless.

god forbid that guy gets reelected 🤦
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Mueller indicted everyone EXCEPT trump. That’s what’s funny

He can't indict a sitting president

he said its still possible after president leaves office

I meant......

He never specifically wrote just how he was involved OR about his knowledge. He can’t indict him but if he was involved......he could have included that. He didn’t and so.......

He did give specifics. Loads of specifics.

Lemme guess...you didn't read the report just cherry picked passages by fox and friends. Typical.

You’re the queen of assumption

I read nothing in the report that said “Trump initiated, acknowledged, agreed to etc....”

Just a bunch of assumptions and guesses.....

As always with you.....guilty until proven innocent
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Because you didn't read it.

Based on the way you struggle to comprehend simple paragraphs here I find it highly doubtful you read through 450 pages of text. If you did you wouldn't be making such obvious false statements.

Lol @ you thinking sitting presidents can be indicted.
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Posted by ItsSupes2
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Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by ItsSupes2
Posted by Black-Mamba
Posted by ItsSupes2

Mueller indicted everyone EXCEPT trump. That’s what’s funny

He can't indict a sitting president

he said its still possible after president leaves office

I meant......

He never specifically wrote just how he was involved OR about his knowledge. He can’t indict him but if he was involved......he could have included that. He didn’t and so.......

He did give specifics. Loads of specifics.

Lemme guess...you didn't read the report just cherry picked passages by fox and friends. Typical.

You’re the queen of assumption

I read nothing in the report that said “Trump initiated, acknowledged, agreed to etc....”

Just a bunch of assumptions and guesses.....

As always with you.....guilty until proven innocent

It's plausible he had no real knowledge of what was happening with his campaign officials. At least nothing probable " not enough evidence" and he was not cleared. Again the issue with Trump is Obstruction.

My thing is.......if there was definitive evidence.......it would be in the report. However........it’s not
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Then why would he say he could be indicted once out of office? Wouldn't that mean there is enough evidence to support such an indictment?