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Geez it’s intense for you and haven’t yet been intimate. Tread carefully if you guys ever get to that point lol!!! I’m in pieces right now. Longing for him and thinking about him every second! 😩

People misunderstand the nature of Pluto. Their are different expressions giving different results.

Some times astrology can be detrimental in knowledge of it.

You can even change the original outcome by acting on a bad interpretation and creating that one instead . That video included, her perspective is limited.

So sometimes it's better not to dig into the why but instead to accept and explore it's effect on you on a personal/internal level. Such as what you have said about it's effect on you. Explore that.

When a child sees a rainbow they look at it in wonder and it's magical to them. Then you learn what it is and how it is created. The mystery, magicalness, and it's impact is lessened. It's just not the same anymore.

This is one of those instances that it rings true.

Stick with your introspection. Focus on exploring these new realizations

Thank you for this. A week later, after the intense longing and regret, I feel like I am coming out of this experience with fresh new eyes. Understanding myself better and knowing what I really want in a healthy relationship. It’s painful to part from him but he taught me so much about myself. I think I’ve been repressed for years and now I feel like I am open to other people and new experiences. Life is very interesting.
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It doesn't stop here.

Welcome to the "real" world.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
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You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊

"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.

Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉



You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.

I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.

Having something touched bring awareness to it.

For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?

I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?

Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?

It's like that in a way.

Some more fun examples:

How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?

Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?

Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.



There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.

Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.

If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.





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Geez it’s intense for you and haven’t yet been intimate. Tread carefully if you guys ever get to that point lol!!! I’m in pieces right now. Longing for him and thinking about him every second! 😩

People misunderstand the nature of Pluto. Their are different expressions giving different results.

Some times astrology can be detrimental in knowledge of it.

You can even change the original outcome by acting on a bad interpretation and creating that one instead . That video included, her perspective is limited.

So sometimes it's better not to dig into the why but instead to accept and explore it's effect on you on a personal/internal level. Such as what you have said about it's effect on you. Explore that.

When a child sees a rainbow they look at it in wonder and it's magical to them. Then you learn what it is and how it is created. The mystery, magicalness, and it's impact is lessened. It's just not the same anymore.

This is one of those instances that it rings true.

Stick with your introspection. Focus on exploring these new realizations

I like this a lot and I do think it’s important to explore a relationship for what it is rather than dissecting it with all the aspects. I will say that those videos have taught me a great deal about how Pluto affects me though, but in a positive way. It helped me understand why I was feeling so jealous or possessive even when it seemed ridiculous or silly. And once I recognize those fears or insecurities popping up im able to hone it in before I act like an unstable basket case and start a fight with him. Lol because BEING Pluto legit makes you feel crazy. 😂 so I’m glad that I have done the “homework” because it’s like any other self help book. Lol but I have Scorpio sun as it is, so I am all about self-improvement and checking myself first before I try to check someone else
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True. Can't say that about everyone though. I fell for this put trap early on. It was very costly.

There us one thing I can say for sure about astrology, it's a very useful tool for introspection then a external road map.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao

You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊

"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.

Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉



You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.

I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.

Having something touched bring awareness to it.

For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?

I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?

Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?

It's like that in a way.

Some more fun examples:

How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?

Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?

Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.



There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.

Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.

If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.

Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.
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That sounds like the perfect kind of relationship for someone afraid of intimacy.

You can feed your desire with the illusion of a relationship without actually having one.



I'm sure you have your reasons for not making the effort to meet him. Might even sound reasonable..yet you are still making a choice to not take the plunge on some level.

On some level you have chosen him and this situation to become attached to..rather then someone more accessible. Playing it "safe".

You know a way to overcome a free of intimacy from trust issues isn't finding someone you can trust enough to open up. It's accepting the fact it's impossible for it to be impossible to be hurt again and you will be ok if it does happen.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
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“He pursued me heavily”,

...but you haven’t met?

Wtf you playing at?
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars and my Pluto conjunct his NN.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
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Different guy...he was before the Venus-Pluto guy...

The healing happened when I met someone whom i was pushed to the brink sexually which hadn’t happened before. Ultimately it healed me of my addictive behaviour towards sex culminating In celibacy.

Scorpio extremes hey? 🥴
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao

You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊

"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.

Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉



You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.

I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.

Having something touched bring awareness to it.

For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?

I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?

Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?

It's like that in a way.

Some more fun examples:

How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?

Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?

Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.



There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.

Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.

If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.

Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.
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Can you orgasm with masturbation?
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao

You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊

"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.

Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉



You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.

I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.

Having something touched bring awareness to it.

For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?

I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?

Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?

It's like that in a way.

Some more fun examples:

How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?

Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?

Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.



There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.

Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.

If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.

Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.

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The blokes you’ve been with need to go back to school lol
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars and my Pluto conjunct his NN.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao

Different guy...he was before the Venus-Pluto guy...

The healing happened when I met someone whom i was pushed to the brink sexually which hadn’t happened before. Ultimately it healed me of my addictive behaviour towards sex culminating In celibacy.

Scorpio extremes hey? 🥴

Did he heal you by hurting you first? Like was it a situation that scarred you to the point that you didn’t want to have sex anymore?
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Yes, I allowed my behaviour with him to hurt me. I have found this often happens with Scorpios.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars and my Pluto conjunct his NN.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao

Different guy...he was before the Venus-Pluto guy...

The healing happened when I met someone whom i was pushed to the brink sexually which hadn’t happened before. Ultimately it healed me of my addictive behaviour towards sex culminating In celibacy.

Scorpio extremes hey? 🥴

Did he heal you by hurting you first? Like was it a situation that scarred you to the point that you didn’t want to have sex anymore?

Yes, I allowed my behaviour with him to hurt me. I have found this often happens with Scorpios.

Ok I can understand that. I think I went through something similar already but maybe not as extreme. I absolutely love sex but wouldn’t say I’m addicted. I can go long periods without it thanks to my Virgo Venus always talking my sag mars down 😂

I’m sorry I don’t mean to pry I just like asking questions because it helps me understand better. I think it’s interesting stuff.. the psychological aspect of sex.
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I was only addicted with that guy because the chemistry was so off the scale

I decided not to go there again until such time I trust myself not to be so extreme and I’m not so sure it won’t be a big deal?
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴

Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?

All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.

Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,

Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.

So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao

You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊

"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.

Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉



You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.

I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.

Having something touched bring awareness to it.

For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?

I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?

Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?

It's like that in a way.

Some more fun examples:

How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?

Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?

Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.



There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.

Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.

If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.

Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.

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That’s good

The blokes you’ve been with need to go back to school lol

When I was with my sons dad I used to cum every time, but we were together so long so he really knew my body. I left him 3 years ago but I do think there is a block because I’ve received good head since then but still can’t cum. I just can’t relax it’s weird
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Not weird, you’re just guarding your heart and it’ll happen when you learn to trust again..
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As a Scorpio Venus most of my relationships have been intense. How about other VIS's?

Yup! I enjoy it.

Did you?

I think most aspects that are Scorpio are used to intensity and don't have any problems with it at all. It's almost a normal feeling.
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I can't get turned on without it. But, I don't want another Pluto conjunct Venus obsession again.
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

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I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.

There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.

Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.

Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?

I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.

If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.

You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.

Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.

Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.
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He reached out to me last night around 10PM. Our convo went like this:

Sag guy: Would you be mad if I said I missed your head rubs?

Me: (sends angry emoji)

Sag guy: (sends crying emoji)

Me: I was actually thinking about you too

Sag guy: What were you thinking

Me: Giving you a head rubbbb

Sag guy: lol liar

Me: Just hoping you were ok

Sag guy: I feel like we go back and forth like this, in and out

Me: Why are you weird with me

Sag guy: You’re the one that’s weird with me! One day you don’t want to talk anymore and the next you change your mind and I’m like “okay” each time. Lol

Me: haha yeah. I don’t like how I feel but you started it

Sag guy: I just said let’s take it slow once…how do you feel?

Me: You said slow, casual, chill. I feel confused

Sag guy: I used poor words, namely casual. I just didn’t want to rush

Me: I’m also scared of getting hurt

Sag guy: (asks for picture of cake he custom ordered for me for birthday in April. He took me to a nice restaurant and gave me a birthday cake on our first date, which was the night of my birthday. He asks for me to send the picture I took of it because he never got to see it)

Me: (I send the picture)

Sag guy: Life is about risk, and you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. That night I took many many risks with you, like that cake. I could have gotten hurt in a million ways, but persistence always wins

Me: You have that natural burst of confidence though

Sag guy: Lol says who? The only thing natural about me is my desire for oxygen and food

Me: It’s when your Machiavellian side comes out to play (he told me that he is secretly Machiavellian in business)

My last message was sent at 10:22PM and he hasn’t responded yet. It’s 7AM where we’re at now.

This is the second time he’s reached out to me since I told him we should stop seeing each other. I’ve never initiated contact since I told him we should stop seeing each other last Wednesday. Is he trying to reestablish a connection again and was the cake picture just an excuse? I don’t know how to proceed or what to think about him.

It really bothers me that he went back on the dating app after we talked about pausing our profiles. I can understand the reasoning behind wanting to see what else is out there to find your most compatible match before making a commitment to be exclusive but it makes me feel inadequate.
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10pm?

He’s looking for a date and he’s being cheesy. To me it seems like romantic manipulation. Plus he blamed you.

Machiavellian in business? Okay he thinks he’s alpha.

He doesn’t want to be rejected.

Take it slow is fine, but then he’s telling you to take risks.

It looks like he pushes and pulls back for a reaction then twists it on you to be the one responsible for the course.

Just my guess from that post.

Forget about the synastry. Look at what he’s doing/saying.
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I recently ended things last Wednesday with a Sagittarius man (Gemini Asc, Scorpio Venus, Virgo Moon, Aries Mars) and I (Aries Sun, Sag Asc, Taurus Venus, Libra Moon, Cap Mars) still can’t stop obsessing over him. His Venus conjuncts my Pluto in synastry at a tight orb of 0 degrees. He also has Venus conjunct Pluto natally.

He was enthralled by me first then as time went on, I felt like I was put under a spell. The sex and emotional connection was intense. He was not my type physically at all but I fell for his big personality and optimism. We only saw each other for 1.5 months but I let him in completely.

I felt him pull away the past two weeks and downloaded the dating app where we had found each other looking for a sign. We had both paused our profiles about two weeks into meeting. When I downloaded the app, I saw his profile had changed location. The only way you can change your location is if you go in and manually update it yourself. I also created a fake profile and matched with him, so there was proof that he was active on it again.

I didn’t tell him I saw him on the dating app. I was so sad. I just told him I wasn’t ready and needed to work on myself. He said he understood and told me that if I wanted to hang out sometime soon, to let him know.

Two days later, he texts me an article about his business venture closing a seven figure deal. That’s when I then tell him the truth, that I saw that he was active on the dating app again and that even though I know not seeing each other anymore was for the best, he made a huge impact on me and that I’m glad I met him. He responded that he really liked me but now after being single for the past several months for the first time in ten years and with everything going on professionally, he recognizes that it’s time for him to be selfish. He encouraged me to explore what’s out there because he says I should rebuild confidence in myself after focusing too much on my previous nine year relationship that I just got out of in March. He said he thinks I sold myself short from my previous toxic relationship. Then he offered to be friends with benefits but I turned that down because I have very strong feelings for him.

I’ve heard that Venus-Pluto synastry aspects are powerful, especially with the conjunction. Who feels it more? I feel like maybe both of us, especially after he sent me the article of his company. But it felt like a manipulation tactic. He was looking for other girls by getting back on the dating app but then he seemingly tries to dangle his business success to suck me back in or show me what I was missing? What gives?


Who feels it more? Depends on the make-up of the individual natal charts.

My husband and I have alot of Pluto aspects to include, as you described, Venus Conjunct Pluto at O degrees with my husband having Venus Conjunct Pluto natally and in the 7th house though. That's the feels right there - he has Venus Conjunct Pluto in his natal chart in the 7th house. Not only that, he has Venus in Libra in the 7th. He felt it baaad. When I told some friends about my husband and my dating life, one male friend said, "you married your stalker." I clutched my pearls.

I'm a chill girl (in sex and love) no matter what. That's my natal chart - many air placement, many trines, Venus in the 1st, Venus forming two of three grand air trines. Super chill girl, even though Pluto. Had to think about that for years. Every Pluto person in a relationship has a certain pull (intensity). How can an air dominant person be "intense..." my pull was being super chill, love it or leave it, down for whatever.... I think it makes people sweat, chase, stalk you when you sincerely don't give a damn but like to have fun. I have several past romantic interactions that illustrate that. Seems your Sagittarius has a similar disposition.

I will say this, 1.5 months and he know all about your past "toxic" relationship. You shouldn't go there so soon. Makes you seem a bit damaged. The behavior you displayed may have confirmed it. Sag may have given you the right advice. Relationship of all kinds are a way to understand ourselves better. I am always amused by threads like this where the poster wants to examine "the other," when the examination needs to be with the poster. Take this as an opportunity for introspection and more self-awareness.
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

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I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.

There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.

Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.

Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?

I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.

If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.

You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.

Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.

Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.

He reached out to me last night around 10PM. Our convo went like this:

Sag guy: Would you be mad if I said I missed your head rubs?

Me: (sends angry emoji)

Sag guy: (sends crying emoji)

Me: I was actually thinking about you too

Sag guy: What were you thinking

Me: Giving you a head rubbbb

Sag guy: lol liar

Me: Just hoping you were ok

Sag guy: I feel like we go back and forth like this, in and out

Me: Why are you weird with me

Sag guy: You’re the one that’s weird with me! One day you don’t want to talk anymore and the next you change your mind and I’m like “okay” each time. Lol

Me: haha yeah. I don’t like how I feel but you started it

Sag guy: I just said let’s take it slow once…how do you feel?

Me: You said slow, casual, chill. I feel confused

Sag guy: I used poor words, namely casual. I just didn’t want to rush

Me: I’m also scared of getting hurt

Sag guy: (asks for picture of cake he custom ordered for me for birthday in April. He took me to a nice restaurant and gave me a birthday cake on our first date, which was the night of my birthday. He asks for me to send the picture I took of it because he never got to see it)

Me: (I send the picture)

Sag guy: Life is about risk, and you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. That night I took many many risks with you, like that cake. I could have gotten hurt in a million ways, but persistence always wins

Me: You have that natural burst of confidence though

Sag guy: Lol says who? The only thing natural about me is my desire for oxygen and food

Me: It’s when your Machiavellian side comes out to play (he told me that he is secretly Machiavellian in business)

My last message was sent at 10:22PM and he hasn’t responded yet. It’s 7AM where we’re at now.

This is the second time he’s reached out to me since I told him we should stop seeing each other. I’ve never initiated contact since I told him we should stop seeing each other last Wednesday. Is he trying to reestablish a connection again and was the cake picture just an excuse? I don’t know how to proceed or what to think about him.

It really bothers me that he went back on the dating app after we talked about pausing our profiles. I can understand the reasoning behind wanting to see what else is out there to find your most compatible match before making a commitment to be exclusive but it makes me feel inadequate.
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I'm not sure what you want me to say about it.

He likes you and wants to date you. He doesn't want to get rushed into a relationship, but that doesn't mean it will mean forever not wanting one with you. Start dating him again and bring up the topic in a about 6 months or so. Just because he doesn't want a relationship title right now, doesn't mean he won't see where things go with you.

He just needs to get to know you and he needs you to be consistent.

He admitted he used the wrong word when he said "casual"

Since it really bothers you that he went on the app, let him know that. Be direct and say "I would like to start dating you again, because we did have a good time together, but me finding out you were on that dating app while you pretended to delete it, really bothered me."- Or something along those lines.

Have you talked about how you found out he was on a dating app? Make up a story and lie if you don't want to admit to snooping. Tell him that you showed a friend of yours his pic and she ended up seeing him on the app and letting you know, and that she matched with him. Don't tell him a name though, if he asks.

But just to let you know, if you are going to be snooping like this in dating, you will always get hurt. He wasn't cheating on you, you don't even know if he had any dates. But he admitted to not sleeping with anyone else while seeing you.

So if you can't handle spending time with him, getting to know him, having lots of sex, communicating with him, and having fun- while NOT being in an established relationship for the next few months, then he probably isn't for you.

I've dated someone for years and never trusted them enough to have a title with them, because they did stuff to keep sabotaging the relationship. Things need to progress naturally. If I get rushed, I start thinking something is wrong with you and questioning what you're rushing for.

In the course of years being together. Dating for 6-8 months is a small drop in the bucket to build a solid foundation for a relationship.
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Just wanted to give an update on the Sagittarius guy with whom I have a Venus conjunct Pluto synastry.

Thanks to saggurl88 for the encouragement and insight into this guy. I persevered and things are going well *knock on wood.* He told me that I’m the most sexually compatible person he’s been with and he wants to take me to New York at the end of this month. He’s the first fire sign I’ve dated and I’ve been missing out…we get along so well and the intimacy is intense, probably thanks to Venus conjunct Pluto.

So for now, we’re still taking things slow but it’s been picking up a lot more lately and he said he wants to take the steps towards being in a relationship together. I’m happy with the way things are going and thanks everyone 😊
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Hey Happenstance, I kinda want to put a personal input in this considering I have experience with the energies presented here. The experience I have is with a Sadge man (Virgo Moon, Scorpio Venus), and I have a Libra moon like you. Ever watch AstroLada's video on Magnetic Attraction? Well Virgo Moon is magnetically attracted to Libra moon. You can also use Sun & Rising and cross examine the signs though it's a lesser degree than moon. I also have my Scorpio Pluto conjunct (within 1 degree orb) his Scorpio Venus.

Your Sadge's perspective isn't at all bad, it is VERY important for Libra moons to reacquaint with themselves alone (to rebalance our values). He's looking at this with his Virgo moon. Personally speaking, I'm a serial relationship kinda gal, and it's so hard... so hard... to get a chance to myself and work on me, and when I do I get bouts of depression in regards to my loneliness, HOWEVER... it's just growing pains. Growing stronger! 🙂

Regardless I will tell you about the attraction. It is a dual-sided obsession I feel. Pluto wants to consume, Venus wants to be loved and appreciated, and it's intoxicating. I was obsessed with my Sadge for awhile before we dated, and after a leaving town 3 years then returning, we reconnected and started a relationship for a good year. We broke up, but that's something not related to the energies we're talking here.

Regardless, I moved on, and ended up dating another guy... but Sadge and I maintained distant contact (a rare text, nothing too deep out of respect of r/s), and he's always been very supportive, and now he wants to meet up (now that I'm working on myself). However, now I am focusing on myself - and like I said it hurts, the loneliness- I think it's a part of the Virgo moon standards, that he now sees me as someone who is capable of working on herself. But we must be strong (or maybe just me), because too many relationships have failed, and not lived up to my own expectations, and the only thing I can control is myself. So maybe if you work on yourself, or him himself, you can reconnect. Because there is always going to be a faint attraction from both ends IMO. He will appreciate that you are working on yourself, and be proud for you, of you - but ultimately do it for yourself.

Best of luck on your journey 🙂