
Greylatern, The Laughing Heart
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Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by HappenstancePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmaoclick to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by Happenstance
Geez it’s intense for you and haven’t yet been intimate. Tread carefully if you guys ever get to that point lol!!! I’m in pieces right now. Longing for him and thinking about him every second! 😩
People misunderstand the nature of Pluto. Their are different expressions giving different results.
Some times astrology can be detrimental in knowledge of it.
You can even change the original outcome by acting on a bad interpretation and creating that one instead . That video included, her perspective is limited.
So sometimes it's better not to dig into the why but instead to accept and explore it's effect on you on a personal/internal level. Such as what you have said about it's effect on you. Explore that.
When a child sees a rainbow they look at it in wonder and it's magical to them. Then you learn what it is and how it is created. The mystery, magicalness, and it's impact is lessened. It's just not the same anymore.
This is one of those instances that it rings true.
Stick with your introspection. Focus on exploring these new realizations
I like this a lot and I do think it’s important to explore a relationship for what it is rather than dissecting it with all the aspects. I will say that those videos have taught me a great deal about how Pluto affects me though, but in a positive way. It helped me understand why I was feeling so jealous or possessive even when it seemed ridiculous or silly. And once I recognize those fears or insecurities popping up im able to hone it in before I act like an unstable basket case and start a fight with him. Lol because BEING Pluto legit makes you feel crazy. 😂 so I’m glad that I have done the “homework” because it’s like any other self help book. Lol but I have Scorpio sun as it is, so I am all about self-improvement and checking myself first before I try to check someone elseclick to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by HappenstancePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊
"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.
Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉
You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.
I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.
Having something touched bring awareness to it.
For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?
I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?
Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?
It's like that in a way.
Some more fun examples:
How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?
Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?
Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.
There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.
Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.
If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.
Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.click to expand
Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄click to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by HappenstancePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars and my Pluto conjunct his NN.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmaoclick to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by HappenstancePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊
"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.
Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉
You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.
I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.
Having something touched bring awareness to it.
For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?
I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?
Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?
It's like that in a way.
Some more fun examples:
How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?
Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?
Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.
There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.
Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.
If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.
Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.click to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by HappenstancePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊
"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.
Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉
You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.
I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.
Having something touched bring awareness to it.
For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?
I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?
Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?
It's like that in a way.
Some more fun examples:
How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?
Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?
Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.
There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.
Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.
If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.
Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.
Can you orgasm with masturbation?
Yeahclick to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by HappenstancePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars and my Pluto conjunct his NN.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
Different guy...he was before the Venus-Pluto guy...
The healing happened when I met someone whom i was pushed to the brink sexually which hadn’t happened before. Ultimately it healed me of my addictive behaviour towards sex culminating In celibacy.
Scorpio extremes hey? 🥴
Did he heal you by hurting you first? Like was it a situation that scarred you to the point that you didn’t want to have sex anymore?click to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by HappenstancePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ImperfectStormPosted by MyStarsShine
Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars and my Pluto conjunct his NN.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
Different guy...he was before the Venus-Pluto guy...
The healing happened when I met someone whom i was pushed to the brink sexually which hadn’t happened before. Ultimately it healed me of my addictive behaviour towards sex culminating In celibacy.
Scorpio extremes hey? 🥴
Did he heal you by hurting you first? Like was it a situation that scarred you to the point that you didn’t want to have sex anymore?
Yes, I allowed my behaviour with him to hurt me. I have found this often happens with Scorpios.
Ok I can understand that. I think I went through something similar already but maybe not as extreme. I absolutely love sex but wouldn’t say I’m addicted. I can go long periods without it thanks to my Virgo Venus always talking my sag mars down 😂
I’m sorry I don’t mean to pry I just like asking questions because it helps me understand better. I think it’s interesting stuff.. the psychological aspect of sex.click to expand

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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus
I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.
@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao
My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.
Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.
Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....
Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
That is what the aspect is about in my experience
I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
Is the guy with the Pluto conjunct your Venus the same guy whose Pluto was conjunct your NN?
All of the synastry readings that I have read regarding me and the Pisces all mention a lot of healing for is both, and we have a few Pluto contacts.. his Pluto square my moon, his Pluto sextile my mars, his Pluto conjunct my ascendant, my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto trine his mars.
Pluto aspects left and right 😅 y’all make me kinda scared to meet him. It’s confusing though. We have a ton of harmonious aspects too though, which is what makes me want to continue to explore it to see where it goes. like trine/sextile moon/moon, sun/moon, moon/Mercury,
Sun/Mercury, Venus/Neptune, Venus/Jupiter etc. so it’s more than just physical attraction and passion, I genuinely like the guy. He just frustrates me because of how guarded he is. He sometimes reminds me of a male version of me.
So I thought it was interesting how you mentioned healing and wondered how healing is brought about by sex. Idk I’m just thinking out loud wondering if I should just run in the other direction of the Pisces or if I should want the healing. lmao
You hit on to something I've explored before and have a passion for. I can't help but over share. So bare with me here😊
"Sex"( not "fucking") connects 2 people beyond the physical. It can deepen and strength connections.
Intimacy = openness. With sex in the mix it can be bonding too, the strength of it depends on the level of sensitive of a person, as well as to reach other. What makes someone sensitive is there level of openness. Wounds count as opening too. Nor is this just limited to sex. Have you ever had the realization you wanted to be around someone because of what they bring out in you? Yup😉
You could also say that is why some people can't handle having sex with strangers or people they don't care about or fall for someone way too soon afterwards.
I'm sure you have heard of people breaking down during or after sex because personal trama coming to the surface.
Having something touched bring awareness to it.
For instance, do you feel the cloths on your body right now?
I bet you do now since I brought attention to it, but where you really feeling them before you read this?
Why do you suddenly feel a body part when someone touches it unexpectedly but not before?
It's like that in a way.
Some more fun examples:
How about what make-up sex really is. Is it really just about getting off?
Why do some people recommend that you sleep with someone else in order to get over someone? Why does that work?
Sexual healing. Even though the description sounds absurd, the concept is real. I can't be the only one to consider opening up something that was not meant to be closed or obstructed to be healing.
There are eastern religions that use and explore this. There is one in piticular but name escapes me right now. Kamasutra and tantra are watered down imported versions of this yogi. The popular versions of these leave out the spiritual aspects to make it more palatable.
Honestly not going to lie, I'm fully aware how spiritual concepts and practices do sound far fetched.. yet they work. They work because it's based on something that is real even if we don't quire understand what that is. It's also easier to explain things in spiritual terms then other points of views. A lot of the times it's tomato tomáto .Sexual healing is one of those.
If your ever really interested on this subject, I recommend exploring tantra and the original yogi( eastern religion) it came from who's name I can't remember. Yoga and Riki( massage therapy) are loosely related as well.
Thank you.. it does intrigue me. I have never broken down during or after sex but at the same time, I can see how or why that would happen. I know that I have blockages of some sort, after my ex of 10 years cheated, I have formed not only emotional blocks but also physical blocks (like not being able to orgasm during sex). The guy that I’ve talked about in this thread definitely brings out a certain side of me, it’s been easy to be vulnerable with him since he lives so far away, and also because he has shared his vulnerable side with me too at times. Now that you mention it, I would probably break down if we ever did reach the physical point. Lmao because it’s been 4 months that we’ve been talking. And it’s been 4 months of a slow burn, not only physical tension but emotional too.
Can you orgasm with masturbation?
Yeah
That’s good
The blokes you’ve been with need to go back to school lol
When I was with my sons dad I used to cum every time, but we were together so long so he really knew my body. I left him 3 years ago but I do think there is a block because I’ve received good head since then but still can’t cum. I just can’t relax it’s weirdclick to expand
Posted by saggurl88Posted by DonnaLibra
As a Scorpio Venus most of my relationships have been intense. How about other VIS's?
Yup! I enjoy it.
Did you?
I think most aspects that are Scorpio are used to intensity and don't have any problems with it at all. It's almost a normal feeling.click to expand
Posted by saggurl88Posted by HappenstancePosted by saggurl88Posted by HappenstancePosted by saggurl88Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by saggurl88
Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?
That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬
Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had
I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.
Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.
Edited to add this-
I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.
But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.
He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.
I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.
Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.
There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.
Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.
Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.
Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?
I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.
If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.
You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.
Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.
Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.click to expand

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I recently ended things last Wednesday with a Sagittarius man (Gemini Asc, Scorpio Venus, Virgo Moon, Aries Mars) and I (Aries Sun, Sag Asc, Taurus Venus, Libra Moon, Cap Mars) still can’t stop obsessing over him. His Venus conjuncts my Pluto in synastry at a tight orb of 0 degrees. He also has Venus conjunct Pluto natally.
He was enthralled by me first then as time went on, I felt like I was put under a spell. The sex and emotional connection was intense. He was not my type physically at all but I fell for his big personality and optimism. We only saw each other for 1.5 months but I let him in completely.
I felt him pull away the past two weeks and downloaded the dating app where we had found each other looking for a sign. We had both paused our profiles about two weeks into meeting. When I downloaded the app, I saw his profile had changed location. The only way you can change your location is if you go in and manually update it yourself. I also created a fake profile and matched with him, so there was proof that he was active on it again.
I didn’t tell him I saw him on the dating app. I was so sad. I just told him I wasn’t ready and needed to work on myself. He said he understood and told me that if I wanted to hang out sometime soon, to let him know.
Two days later, he texts me an article about his business venture closing a seven figure deal. That’s when I then tell him the truth, that I saw that he was active on the dating app again and that even though I know not seeing each other anymore was for the best, he made a huge impact on me and that I’m glad I met him. He responded that he really liked me but now after being single for the past several months for the first time in ten years and with everything going on professionally, he recognizes that it’s time for him to be selfish. He encouraged me to explore what’s out there because he says I should rebuild confidence in myself after focusing too much on my previous nine year relationship that I just got out of in March. He said he thinks I sold myself short from my previous toxic relationship. Then he offered to be friends with benefits but I turned that down because I have very strong feelings for him.
I’ve heard that Venus-Pluto synastry aspects are powerful, especially with the conjunction. Who feels it more? I feel like maybe both of us, especially after he sent me the article of his company. But it felt like a manipulation tactic. He was looking for other girls by getting back on the dating app but then he seemingly tries to dangle his business success to suck me back in or show me what I was missing? What gives?

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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?
That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬
Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had
I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.
Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.
Edited to add this-
I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.
But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.
He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.
I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.
Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.
There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.
Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.
Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.
Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?
I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.
If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.
You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.
Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.
Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.
He reached out to me last night around 10PM. Our convo went like this:
Sag guy: Would you be mad if I said I missed your head rubs?
Me: (sends angry emoji)
Sag guy: (sends crying emoji)
Me: I was actually thinking about you too
Sag guy: What were you thinking
Me: Giving you a head rubbbb
Sag guy: lol liar
Me: Just hoping you were ok
Sag guy: I feel like we go back and forth like this, in and out
Me: Why are you weird with me
Sag guy: You’re the one that’s weird with me! One day you don’t want to talk anymore and the next you change your mind and I’m like “okay” each time. Lol
Me: haha yeah. I don’t like how I feel but you started it
Sag guy: I just said let’s take it slow once…how do you feel?
Me: You said slow, casual, chill. I feel confused
Sag guy: I used poor words, namely casual. I just didn’t want to rush
Me: I’m also scared of getting hurt
Sag guy: (asks for picture of cake he custom ordered for me for birthday in April. He took me to a nice restaurant and gave me a birthday cake on our first date, which was the night of my birthday. He asks for me to send the picture I took of it because he never got to see it)
Me: (I send the picture)
Sag guy: Life is about risk, and you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. That night I took many many risks with you, like that cake. I could have gotten hurt in a million ways, but persistence always wins
Me: You have that natural burst of confidence though
Sag guy: Lol says who? The only thing natural about me is my desire for oxygen and food
Me: It’s when your Machiavellian side comes out to play (he told me that he is secretly Machiavellian in business)
My last message was sent at 10:22PM and he hasn’t responded yet. It’s 7AM where we’re at now.
This is the second time he’s reached out to me since I told him we should stop seeing each other. I’ve never initiated contact since I told him we should stop seeing each other last Wednesday. Is he trying to reestablish a connection again and was the cake picture just an excuse? I don’t know how to proceed or what to think about him.
It really bothers me that he went back on the dating app after we talked about pausing our profiles. I can understand the reasoning behind wanting to see what else is out there to find your most compatible match before making a commitment to be exclusive but it makes me feel inadequate.click to expand
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