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I didn't listen to all of it so, I'm not sure if he explained this. I just head that he was dropping out in swing states to not pull from Trump and let Kamala those electoral votes. And I was thinking why suspend and not drop out? and I remembered what Nicole Shanahan said earlier this week.

I don't know if a certain percentage of votes are needed, but I think this way they can create a new party. And I think that is now the priority.

And if thats the case, as Californian I will 100% vote for him.

Because she said they have two options, stay in and help Kamala win but create new party, or drop out so she doesn't win. But this strategy creates an opportunity for the best of both outcomes. I think this is their best FU to the DNC.
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Posted by Lostthoughts
We need a 3rd party very very badly.

RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.


That is a deceiving statement. These people are very good at their jobs, and have 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay them.
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by Lostthoughts
We need a 3rd party very very badly.
RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.

That is a deceiving statement. These people are very good at their jobs, and have 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay them.
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I'm sure they do. If you keep your mouth shut and let the deep rooted corruption continue to spread, of course you will have a 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay you.
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Posted by Astrobyn
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We need a 3rd party very very badly.
RNC and DNC is like coke and pepsi, they compete only in name yet instead of friendly competition they are complacent and incompetent as a whole. There is no real pressure to perform thier job, it's just playing real life house of cards.

That is a deceiving statement. These people are very good at their jobs, and have 100% satisfaction rate from the people who pay them.
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Lmao 🤣

Well said.

Which means it's a real solution. I'd be up for putting REAL EFFORT in supporting a 3rd party.

Which means ignoring the whole spoiler candidate and other forms of disenfranching and undermining efforts.

There are enough people with actual attention spans and intelligence to get something started.

The more people asking for it the more confidence in people trying to fill that whole.
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what

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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?



Unrelated to the above comment...



and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?

Unrelated to the above comment...

and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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This is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.

It's his commentary and then clips into:

"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."

"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."

"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."

"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."

We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.

And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
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I would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.

Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.

Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)

As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.

Congo.... lithium

Etc etc etc...

If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!

As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!

US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.

For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.

Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!

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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?

Unrelated to the above comment...

and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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This is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
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I would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.
Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
Congo.... lithium
Etc etc etc...
If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!

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So this didn't really expand on anything except Iran, potentially. His video didn't really show what it's titled or what he claimed she was saying. Should we let Russia bully Ukraine because we have also done poor things? The topic wasn't about materials. What is bad about what she said in his video? There's nothing there. We know the US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new.

If you're gonna propose something as showing what you want, you should probably vet it a bit lol. Or else you run the risk of this situation. I don't have a reason to really believe anything he says because he showed that blatant lie.

Can you show me a way to verify the LMT stock going up when everything else went down? I can't seem to find a way to see it next to other stocks and have their last 5day-7day+ charts percentage change.
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"Should we let Russia bully Ukraine becuasewe have also done poor things?!"

What? What are tou on about?! See, right there tells me how little you really do know about the conflict which is why I am not even going to attempt explaining because a) i do not have the necessary time b)) the desire as Ive already done soo while back as I clearly stated earlier nor c) becuase you drank that cooling and no matter how much actual proof I provide, you would not listen with an open mind.

I am uncertain which part of the video you have an issue with but what I do know is that he told no lie in stating the obious that she is an absolute neocon! Though, to be fair, she is in excellent company on both sides of the isle!

"What is bad about what she said!?" ...you jest surely!

"We know US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new" ... so i guess you're OK with it keep on keeping on...same old same old. Right! Got it! 👍

As far as the stock goes, if I have the time I will try and find it for you. Won't be today however!
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We need a 3rd party very very badly.

Our problems can't be fixed by voting.


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A course it can. It's not a "I think" or " I believe"

It's part of the game those asshats are playing to remain seemingly legitimate. In a essence, a critical part of the game. All relationships are 2 way streets.

In this case, a 3rd party will trigger competition for said votes, influence, and money. A 3rd party would disrupt the current game. They will actually have to do something in order to maintain thier standing. Enough people ignore the drama/propaganda to dismiss the usual bullshit and they will have to adapt.

So yes voting is still part of the game. Otherwise they would be putting so much effort and money to manipulate people into voting for them and thier bullshit👍
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I'm gonna try to respond to the bets of my abilities but I'm sure I'll fail because I do indeed have a kitchen renovation & tile laying on my hands as we speak which is why I do not have time to engage in a debate to the extend that I would like to. "Brushing of part" comes in part becuase you insist I clarify my views but you failed to afford me the same yesterday when I asked about DNC primaries (or the lack there of) and who actually voted for Kamala in said primaries?

As far as credible sites goes, I don't know one single one I would trust unequivocally 100% but I already provided quite a few names of indipendant (award wining) journalist in my previous post.

As for your question wether I belive we should be isolationist counrty? Absolutely not! I'm not even sure how you arrived at that conclusion based on what I was saying. What I *am* saying is that the US should cease and desist meddling in other coutries' business for starters. And perhaps, instead of flexing our military biceps, we should deploy more diplomacy. But we know that's a pipe dream becuase we know the most fundamental pillar of our economy IS/are in fact war(s). It's been like that since the ww2.

Example, CIA and MI6 created ISIS, funded ISIS to do our bidding but when it no longer suited our agenda, we made monsters out of them. Which goes back to what I was saying in my earlier posts where the US "manufactures" circumstances & enemies becuase every hero needs a villan, no?

On the subject of dictators, I'm not saying we have to be their bed fellows but we also need not constantly "police" the whole damn world, no? I guess we agree on as much. So the whole "should we capitulate to the dictators" is rather moot point when you realize that much, if not all, of that threat is fake news. 🙄

As for Russia Ukraine, I do hope you are aware that the two countries were on a verge of signing two peace treaties by now. Both times, US stepped in and subverted all peace efforts? Much like we do during security council meeting at the UN regarding Israel/Gaza sittuation. Were you aware that the crap was going on since 2014 in the Donbas region?

Did you know that Putin had nothing to do with blowing up the pipe line (you can begin to imagine who did) Also, did you know that Ukraine and Russia were jussst fine & dandy up until Zelensky came to power? If and when you do do the research on that subject matter, do look into how he came to power! Were you aware that when UUUSR fell appart, there was a "promise" US won't advance NATO closer to Russias borders? I say that with fair certanity because I'm old enough to remember that part of history! Yet here we are, literally knocking on their front door meanwhile, villy nilly ceasing billions of dollars worth of Russiann assets on the hush hush.

Are you also aware that Von Der Leyen (yet another figure whom no one elected) threatened Hungry with sanctions should they continue having civil relations with Russia!? Why?!

But sure, let's label all those who do not bend thir knee to US/western interests as dictators and savages! That way its easier to sell NEVER ENDING WARS! One giant money laundering, racketeering scheme!

With regards to the stock, once again, I don't know if he was right or wrong but that really doesn't change the fact that what she said IS in fact double talk in favor of wars. For crying out loud, we are set to send an additional 3.5 billion in foreign aid to Israel. Meanwhile, look at the street of Salt Lake City, Portland, beaches of Hawaii, and the list goes on!!!

No country in the world has been involved in more wars than the US!

Congo was not in regard to Russia but the fact how US has and continues to drain resources from countries 'across the globe. Create wars so that way its easier to syphone their resources for a penny on a dollar! Actually, you needn't go any further than Hawaii and Purto Rico. Ask native Hwaiian how they fell about Dole company or the US government for that matter!

I'm sure I'm forgetting sooo soo much, alas them and my focus are limited!

RFK.... *rolls eyes* to be fair, I can agree on many of his policies but there are some I just cannot!!!! Also, he is the embodiment of establishment soooo ... 💨💨💨
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?

Unrelated to the above comment...

and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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This is such a disingenuous video lol. That stock pic is showing purchases at 480? It was that low in July. Sooooo? And a bunch of few second clips with maybe not even a full sentence, is not a good showing lol.
It's his commentary and then clips into:
"(T)hat America, not China, wins the competition for the 21st century and.."
"(T)o defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists."
"I helped mobilize a global response, over 50 countries, to defend against Putin's aggression."
"I will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like Kim Jong-Un who are rooting for Trump. Who are rooting for Trump."
We could probably agree that the Israel/Palestine situation is a never-ending war.. that every single Congress has approved since the inception of the war. So it's really a moot point. It happened under Trump, it happened under Biden, it will likely happen under Harris if she wins, it will likely happen under Trump again if he wins.
And I don't see anything wrong with 3 outta 4 of those statements. Lol, the only thing I could have any problem with is Iran stuff (I don't know what the issue is in recent time). I think helping a country defending themselves from being invaded isn't the worst thing. I wouldn't realistically advocate for ever attacking Russia or China or any of that personally for no reason. It's a keep your hands to yourself situation, to me.
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I would looove to address soo many points of yours. Unfortunately, I honestly do not know were to begin. Not for the lack of inormation, but the exact opposite! I will, however, try to briefly address the point of Iran! The "issue" with Iran is that they are 4th ranking in terms of oil reserves. As a matter of fact, it has always been about oil! It goes back as far as 1909, if not earlier, when Britsish Petroleum (BP) wanted to bet their sticky fingers on it.
Even the shit show happening in Palestine is about oil. You can easily check how many drilling licenses has Israel issued since in the last 9-10 months.
Venezuela has suffered similar fate, once again, thanks to having had oil reserves (rumors has it they are depleted now but who knows)
As far as Russia goes, I've already shared a damn near dissertation of stuff few months back so I honestly don't feel like repeating myself.
Congo.... lithium
Etc etc etc...
If the general populace fails to make the connection as to how the imperialistic attitude of the ruling elite is in(directly) effecting us here in the states alone (never mind world at learge) we are in deep shit my dear!
As far as Lockheed Martin stock goes...I wasnt paying attention to his "diagrams". What I do know is that just few days ago, when all other stock plummeted, theirs went up... which in and off itself is quite telling!
US has always, throughout history, manufactured (emphasis on manufactured) enemies out of thin air so as to justify its bottomless greed! Sadest part in all of that, for a country that touts itself as the wealthiest nation in the world ( most certainly not) western as hell have a fuck ton of homeless people.
For as long as they can manipulate us and keep us emotionally charged, divided and fighting against each other, no one else is at fakut for our own demise but ouselfves. i mean that on the global as well as the local scale.
Last but most certainly not least... if you have not done it so far, I suggested reading stuff by Seymor Hersh. Glen Greewald, Aaron Matte, Kim Iverson and few other indipendant journalist! The more you know!!!
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So this didn't really expand on anything except Iran, potentially. His video didn't really show what it's titled or what he claimed she was saying. Should we let Russia bully Ukraine because we have also done poor things? The topic wasn't about materials. What is bad about what she said in his video? There's nothing there. We know the US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new.
If you're gonna propose something as showing what you want, you should probably vet it a bit lol. Or else you run the risk of this situation. I don't have a reason to really believe anything he says because he showed that blatant lie.
Can you show me a way to verify the LMT stock going up when everything else went down? I can't seem to find a way to see it next to other stocks and have their last 5day-7day+ charts percentage change.
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"Should we let Russia bully Ukraine becuasewe have also done poor things?!"
What? What are tou on about?! See, right there tells me how little you really do know about the conflict which is why I am not even going to attempt explaining because a) i do not have the necessary time b)) the desire as Ive already done soo while back as I clearly stated earlier nor c) becuase you drank that cooling and no matter how much actual proof I provide, you would not listen with an open mind.
I am uncertain which part of the video you have an issue with but what I do know is that he told no lie in stating the obious that she is an absolute neocon! Though, to be fair, she is in excellent company on both sides of the isle!
"What is bad about what she said!?" ...you jest surely!
"We know US is/can be imperialistic. This is nothing new" ... so i guess you're OK with it keep on keeping on...same old same old. Right! Got it! 👍
As far as the stock goes, if I have the time I will try and find it for you. Won't be today however!
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and no I don't jest about asking what she said is bad in that video unless you're gonna say world police stuff in which case I ask you what do you think the REALISTIC outcome of doing that is, backing out from everything?
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Are you saying our international policies overthe decades dug us into shit hole sooo deep that ceasing military activities, overthrowing gornements etcetc would land us in hot water. Perhaps! But the opposite is also .i,e.y!
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Yea.
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Independent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.
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I truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.
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Also, real quick, with all due respect, the reason why I said “you drank the koolaid” is because you keep repeating the same divisive narrative (dictators comment in particular) you’ve been fed by the main stream media. Yes that includes newspapers and magazines as well as movies and entertainment at large.

I mentioned this before in my exchange with someone else… just look into Pantagons budget size for movies. Marvel movies alone… it’s mind boggling!

Anyway, I better finally drag my ass out of here!
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Yea.
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Independent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.
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I truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.
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I don't understand this in relation to what I posted
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That doesn't surprise me tbh.
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Yea.
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Independent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.
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I truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.
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I don't understand this in relation to what I posted
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That doesn't surprise me tbh.
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Does it? Because what I posted was corruption, wasn't it? You can buy my endorsement? The only one you said that you'd endorse supposedly openly sold his endorsement for a job. "Free thinker"
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No, I actually agree with you. I just find it hard to not throw bait out there in these types of threads. I've been doing it the entire decade I've been here.
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Yea.
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Independent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants a deal with Donald Trump in which he endorses the Republican rival in exchange for a job in a potential Trump administration, a super PAC supporting Kennedy told Reuters on Wednesday.
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I truly feel anyone who can not only pick a side, but thinks their side is right, and the other side is completely wrong, is delusional. It's a real sign that a person can't be trusted. They lack the ability to be a free thinker, and a person that can't make good decisions. Other than blindly following corruption. Again, it's because those type of people are delusional, and completely untrustworthy.
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I don't understand this in relation to what I posted
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That doesn't surprise me tbh.
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Does it? Because what I posted was corruption, wasn't it? You can buy my endorsement? The only one you said that you'd endorse supposedly openly sold his endorsement for a job. "Free thinker"
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No, I actually agree with you. I just find it hard to not throw bait out there in these types of threads. I've been doing it the entire decade I've been here.
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I must be a masochist because I know better but still always engage lol
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I use to be much more intense about it too. I actually like you as an online persona, and don't really enjoy trolling people I like. You could feel totally indifferent about me too, I just like the way you think, and feel you aren't malicious. You just want a good logical debate, which God knows I can't give you when it comes to politics lmao!
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He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.

He supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
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All of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬
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Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
He supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
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All of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬
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sure. then i'll swap to anti science, no thanks. plus, isn't corruption typically viewed as a disqualifier? I mean, you're not in our system so it doesn't matter anyway, but if you were here would you be one of the people that says you're not voting for trump or harris because they're corrupt?
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I wouldn’t vote as they’re all a waste of space
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Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
He supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
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All of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬
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sure. then i'll swap to anti science, no thanks. plus, isn't corruption typically viewed as a disqualifier? I mean, you're not in our system so it doesn't matter anyway, but if you were here would you be one of the people that says you're not voting for trump or harris because they're corrupt?
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I wouldn’t vote as they’re all a waste of space
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Okay, as long as it's consistent. Do you vote where you live?
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No i don’t … as I said the whole political system is corrupt
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?


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Give a Tulsi Gabbard and Vavik Ramaswamy ticket. You can give RFK Jr. a cabinet position, I just don't trust wat the Zionist have on him.
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Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
He supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
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All of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬
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sure. then i'll swap to anti science, no thanks. plus, isn't corruption typically viewed as a disqualifier? I mean, you're not in our system so it doesn't matter anyway, but if you were here would you be one of the people that says you're not voting for trump or harris because they're corrupt?
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You should legit, stop watching 👀 mainstream media news. This is a propaganda machine and you just repeat all of their talking points. I don't think anyone even cares about debating you, it's a waste of time, it's not like your using your own critical thinking skills anyway.
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So yes voting is still part of the game. Otherwise they would be putting so much effort and money to manipulate people into voting for them and thier bullshit👍

Through out history all human problems were solved with violence.

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You are implying we are not capable of evolving.

Granted that option we are good at but really thats all we are capable of?

Nah some of ya'l are being lazy. And ya we have evolved to more of that, at least some of our species.
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I think we should all gather at a park I've booked for a great event. Everyone is invited and the best part is there will be free food and delicious sweet Koolaid. Perfect for cooling off from a heated political debate on a hot summer day.

Are we gonna have a Jonestown Mass?
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Na, na. Nothing like that. Just a genuine group of people meeting up where we all just kindly debate, then eat free food and drink some delicious Koolaid I made in my basement. Nothing more, nothing less.
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You are implying we are not capable of evolving.


We are. But we evolve over millions of years. "Our issues" are in different time span. In the 90's no one was politically awaken except few nut cases who felt what is coming. Now everyone is awaken. Only way to calm down the planet is nuclear bomb. Then we start over, otherwise I doubt anything will change. Maybe total collapse of the West could also calm things down, which I would not rule out.

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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?


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That person doesn't exist right now politically. And the type of political party that we really need is not feasible with the current atmosphere, yet.

Truth be told, good, smart, and honest Americans don't want to be involved in politics because it's a dirty game. And because of that stigma, nothing's going to change anytime soon. But I definitely know this: RFK, Jr. is NOT the solution. 🤣
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Posted by Solo
Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Solo
Posted by MyStarsShine
He’s an anti covid jabber
And conspiracy theorist (well conspiracy being the misleading word when the theories come true)
He’d blow the whole system apart
Make him President 😂
Cap sun/Cap, Sun, Earth Dom
Intuitive and grounded
Perfect leadership material.
He supposedly sold his endorsement for a job. He's corrupt just like everyone claims everyone else is. He's not perfect leadership material in the slightest.
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All of them are corrupt, you have to be in that job 🥴😬
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sure. then i'll swap to anti science, no thanks. plus, isn't corruption typically viewed as a disqualifier? I mean, you're not in our system so it doesn't matter anyway, but if you were here would you be one of the people that says you're not voting for trump or harris because they're corrupt?
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You should legit, stop watching 👀 mainstream media news. This is a propaganda machine and you just repeat all of their talking points. I don't think anyone even cares about debating you, it's a waste of time, it's not like your using your own critical thinking skills anyway.
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Says the person who's "evidence" is "stuff she wasn't supposed to see." I use real sources. It's not that any of you "don't care about debating" me, it's that you've tried and have nothing left. *yawn* insult, have it back.
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So weird... Look at me seeing some more information that I wasn't supposed to see in Mark Zuckerberg's letter...

https://preview.redd.it/in-2021-senior-officials-from-the-biden-administration-v0-8gab7s36g4ld1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=bbdee252b9cf178d8a47155bf9aeb00fc3ce10c0
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@Solo



Honestly, I contemplated whether to respond or not, in no small part due to the impression that you are either, not reading what I am saying, ooor you are just blatantly trolling my ass at this point & you are arguing for the sake of arguing?!

You keep asking question, answers to which have already (preemptively) been given to you! Example, I clearly stated that there is no one journalistic source I trust unequivocally 100% .

While on the subject of journalism…Do I trust Reuters and/or APnews? I’d say they are more center than CNN, MSNBS, FOX etc though I am definitely more inclined to trust AlJazeera than them and that says a lot.

As for my sources, once more, they are varied. They range from independent journalist to TimesOfIndia, African Diaspora, RadioFreeEurope and the list goes on.

Moving on, you argued that one of my earlier posts explained the issue of Iran but did not do the same with other countries followed by some additional question on your part.

Thinking you are genuinely interested in a conversation, I then proceed to go a bit deeper into the topic of Russia as an additional example of how our government & its greatest ally media are heavily distorting our reality/perception.

I then proceed to use North Stream pipeline explosion as evidence of how said event has been used to fear monger & portray Putin intentions as bloodthirsty imperialist who wants to conquer all of Europe and so we ( the US) must act or else while pumping billions into wars that have been artificially manufactured only to be accused of veering off the subject! What gives, son!?

Again, Seymour Hersh wrote an extensive article on the subject of Nord Stream back in 2023 for which he was accused of being Putins sympathizer. Ironically, not long after, Ukraine arrests a military officer who they claim acted on his own volition. Mkayyy!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/11/nordstream-bombing-ukraine-chervinsky/ (note the date is from last year)

Uh oh, now suddenly, a year later, Germany is issuing an arrest warrant for a man wanted in relation to the same incident…

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/14/europe/nord-stream-explosions-suspect-arrest-warrant-germany-intl

Whaaaat?

What’s more, I gave my answer on the potential outcome should the US pull out of all the wars! If you can honestly answer me why we are involved in so many wars & why the US has over 800 military bases across the globe (but no other country has theirs in the US soil) then perhaps we can begin to have productive conversation (should that be something you are genuinely interest in.)

Hint, it has little to nothing to do with actual dictatorial regimes or terrorist threats. Instead, it all boils down to economics, resources & US dollar slowly loosing dominant status, hence why I keep mentioning BRICS! Just look how the free grain exchange agreement between BRICS countries.

In terms of being worlds police, correct me if I’m wrong, but shouldn’t that be UNs job as useless at they are currently are!?

Briefly on the subject of spreading divisive narrative… I did not infer that you do/did so on the National but rather global scale. Furthermore, I also didnt say *you* were creating it, but merely repeating it … just for clarification purposes.

That being said, if you fail to see how our foreign policies are affecting us immediately in our own proverbial back yards, well… then 🤷🏻‍♀️

To tie all of the above back to my original commentary regarding Kamala… LOL

to save myself a whole lot of typing, just refer to what @MadHatter said on that subject. Agree to the T!

I will also add the issue of Florida where the DNC pulled a fast one & suddenly moved up primaries so that those who had intentions of putting their names on the ballot were literally SOL! DNC did EVERYTHING in their power to subvert Marianne Williamson, Dean Phillips etc

There were 0 primary debates!!! No air time! Nothing!!!

Current administration lied to the ppl to the very end about Bidens condition like ppl are blind & can’t see for themselves!!! What a fucking insult!

They then throw him under the bus & anoint Kamala like she somehow earned the nomination. Say I turned a blind eye to the shadiness of it all & accepted that she is a legit nominee, someone plz explain to me what her policy is!? Really…what platform is she running on?

Even during the DNC convention they handed out the policy handbook they did so as Joe Bidens 2nd term! Not Kamalas! Bidens! Whaaa?! Why?

AOC blatantly lied when she said Kamala was working tirelessly, around the clock, to secure cease fire deal in Palestine/Israel yet that shit ain’t even under her preview!

Brief reminder of our conversation from 2-3 nights ago in the comment section during which I brought subject of Bernie Sanders. Robbed of his nominations twice! I suggested you look into the lawsuit filed against DNC after he ran against Hillary.

Judge then ruled in favor of DNC stating it’s a private corporation & they can do as they please. For fuck sakes, even Warren said “Yes” when asked if she believed the primaries were rigged.

For a party that touts itself to be so damn democratic, they damn sure are acting dictatorial! Lesson in hypocrisy at its finest! Their lies & excuses keep mounting to the point you literally have to be blind not to see it!

Party for the workers unless they attempt to strike (amazing how fast we forget railroaf workers) then that shit is shit down realll fast!

And No! Sorry to disappoint, I am not Trump supporter! Quite to the contrary. Been Bernie supporter to the bitter end. Happily disillusioned, thank you very much!

Something tells me though that the counter argument will be but… but … TRUMP & project 2025! To which I say, aspects of project 2025 have already been implemented. Heritage Foundation has been at it for decades & most of their agendas have successfully been implemented regardless of the ruling party so plz explain to me what Kamala is going to do to stop it & how!? Plz enlighten me coz I’m really curious!



Bottom line is, no matter whom you vote from the Uniparty as they all serve same masters, shit ain’t ever gonna change. At least not for the better!

At this point, I think I’m happy to stop beating a dead horse right here. I shall conclude by saying that I am pleased to see young people getting more involved in politics. That said, I also think you should turn your vpn on when doing your research! You’d be surprised how much our internet is censored!

P.S. Nikkei fell 12 points if I recall correctly on the 5th of this month shortly followed by Dow Jones & S&P. Same day LMT went up! And it steadily keeps rising!
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?

Unrelated to the above comment...

and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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That person doesn't exist right now politically. And the type of political party that we really need is not feasible with the current atmosphere, yet.

Truth be told, good, smart, and honest Americans don't want to be involved in politics because it's a dirty game. And because of that stigma, nothing's going to change anytime soon. But I definitely know this: RFK, Jr. is NOT the solution. 🤣
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Fair enough!
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?

Unrelated to the above comment...

and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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Give a Tulsi Gabbard and Vavik Ramaswamy ticket. You can give RFK Jr. a cabinet position, I just don't trust wat the Zionist have on him.
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Initially I found Tulsa appealing until she called pro Palestinian protestors terrorist at which point I was like … ehhhh next !
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I am aware you feel exhausted of the back and forth so I'm not gonna expect a response (frankly I'm typed out myself) so I'm just gonna leave this here for you to go read if and when you feel like.

You think I have no interest or I'm trolling because I'm still responding? That's buns.

Not initially but by the time you asked if I trusted sources I peruse unequivocally when I previously volunteered that I did/do not, that's when I cocked my head & squinted my eyes .... glad to hear my suspicions were unfounded!

About AP etc, more center? What about more credible?

Sad reality, none of them are 100% credible! Even The Intercept is increasingly loosing journalist like crazy due to heavy censoring. I suppose I have the advantage of speaking 3 languages which makes my pool of information/sources greater. What I do in fact is, if there's a topic I'm interested in, I keep cross-referenceing diversity of different sources. Where they all overlap, I can safely assume it's the closest to the truth!

I can't remember where it was and maybe I got what he said wrong, but what I remembered was that he said he only wanted to be a 1 term president so to me, I was expecting that.

Oh, you need not go any deeper past press conferences during which the staff, specifically Karrine J.P. would come up with all kinds of fantastical excuses for Biden. Funniest one was after Trump-Biden's debate. Next day they were trying to say that the reason for Bidens poor performance was that he had a cold. 🤦‍♀️ Oh and Morning Joe...oh em Gee! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Interesting! I never heard Biden say he'd run for only 1 term. If that is in fact true, then I do not understand why he did not simply step aside in time for the primaries and give Kamala his blessings and let the chips fall where they may. That would be the most democratic process i can think of given the circumstances. By doing what they did and they way they did it, they alienated great deal of their supporters. Alas.

I'm pleased you are doing the research. I know it can be overwhelming. Just remember, the internet is heavily censored. Trying to find the 1st link I posted in my last post was all but nearly impossible. I knew I saw the information last year but took me forever to unearth it. For a moment I thought... Mandela effect 😱

Also, here is one more link related to Russia /Ukraine ....

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/buried-trial-verdict-confirms-false-flag-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine-2024?__im-GHOVNdMQ=12886454715426142089&__im-sRPBobdk=10765491434439948828

Your may also look into Azov battalion!

BUT if it came between Him and Trump, obviously I'm choosing him.

And that is entirely your prerogative. I, on the other hand, cannot possible reconcile voting for someone who not only is tone deaf but pledging unwaving support to what now has widely been acknowledged as genocide. But beyond the emotional or moral dilemma, I am also heavily considering all those billions of dollars being syphoned out of our conrty into the pockets of various private entities.

Ppl keep saying now its not the time coz Trump because we're held hostages with cleverly crafted fear mongering narrative. If anything, NOW it's the time to choose 3rd party. Alas...

What’s more, I gave my answer on the potential outcome should the US pull out of all the wars! ----- I'm lookin' through stuff right now and I don't see one? You 100% say that we should stop meddling in foreign affairs. Will all be peaceful if we?

Perhaps my answer got drowned by my diatribe... in a nutshell, I clearly cannot predict exactly what would happen if we did, though I am willing to wager that it would be far less dramatic than what we are led to believe. I also proposed we ease the widrawal of troops & replace it with fair economic trade. Encourage strong economic ties and diplomacy.

Jan 6th... ugh... that's a whole other can of worms I realllly shouldn not oppen. Let's just say, things do not add up!

I will leave you with the thought of ... depending on your state... there are 7 elections we should be participating in! I find ( and I think you'll recall me saying this in the comment section) where we all could make most impact is on the local and state level!

I'd say the back and forth was fun but typing novels on my phone is a grand pain in the 🍑 😭😭😭 lol



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There is soooo much input here I can't even pinpoint anything tbh.

My question is do you people truly believe you have any pull or push in anything? Like I feel people who can 100% pick a side are truly delusional, and I will forever think that. But do you think you debating and arguing will actually a change anything, or is simply arguing within your delusional personal echo chamber more fun? Like I'm on the completely non delusional outside looking in, and it seems all you people are truly fucked at this point.
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He is the only Democrat ...
lol what
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Shhhh, let them think what they want. Most sane people (majority of the US) already know candidates like RFK Jr don't have a shot in hell ever of becoming a leader of a third party that's viable come election time. It needs to be somebody else.
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Genuine curiosity... whom would you propose as a 3rd party leader? Or which party for that matter?

Unrelated to the above comment...

and no, the channel is not republican leaning/affiliated!
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Give a Tulsi Gabbard and Vavik Ramaswamy ticket. You can give RFK Jr. a cabinet position, I just don't trust wat the Zionist have on him.
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Initially I found Tulsa appealing until she called pro Palestinian protestors terrorist at which point I was like … ehhhh next !
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I did not clock that. I think I have a harder time reconciling that with RFK. Because he's stance on it is so opposite of everything he wants you to perceive about him, it comes off as an outlier very much the vibe of one of these things is not like the other.

And its not that I agree with her statement, but her statement does align with her background and who she is, as a person dedicated to military service.

This is very much a war of propaganda. One side Hamas is the terrorist, and the other side they are resistances fighters. But in western culture islamophobia has been peddled to us to dehumanize we want to exploit for the good of western dominance since really the 70?.

So the perception in American Culture of a Radical Islamic man is difficult for most people empathies with. We've dehumanized them, "they treat women like animals" "they want all white people to die". I have really seen little "actual" evidence acting without honor, where in contrast Israelis will brag about their atrocities.

So know the propaganda so much gray area in our culture. If you want Palestine to succeed, you support Hamas and their goals, there is a perception of what happen on Oct 7th was a terrorist attack rather than act of retaliation in an on going illegal occupation.

Idk these are just some thoughts, i have more but now I have to take my kid to the bus stop. and I honestly am not sure what my conclusion is besides, its designed intentionally to confuse and conceal.
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You are implying we are not capable of evolving.

We are. But we evolve over millions of years. "Our issues" are in different time span. In the 90's no one was politically awaken except few nut cases who felt what is coming. Now everyone is awaken. Only way to calm down the planet is nuclear bomb. Then we start over, otherwise I doubt anything will change. Maybe total collapse of the West could also calm things down, which I would not rule out.


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Yaaaa no. Honestly really really dumb.

First off, no one says we will or deserve to survive. That's earned. Many eras come and go and we know zero about. They failed and got wiped. Plenty of stuff we have found that we can't recreate ourselves that predates our known history.

Other eras changed and advanced. However, what is unique about us, we have access to truely genocidal planet wipping armaments. So nukes and resl war...extinction a real possiblity.

Secondly, this era is ending without a doubt. It's not politically awakened. It's real awareness of what is happening around us. Games not over yet. A lot of great things happening right now that don't make the news. Because negative shit sells. We will see which outcome wins. What definitely isn't helping is attutudes like yours.
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