Aquas are stupid!!!

I cant help saying this. This is the main group which carries the ultimate potential to change the world for better and still wasting their life without realizing how amazing they can be if they can stop being stubborn with many of their current convictions. When will you all stop being so insecure and begin to use your brain to its maximum so it could make some necessary changes to this world?? Do you all really need to be pushed by others?

Failing to realize ones true potential can be called as stupidity right— And now since i have said this, personally I do expect many of you to go ahead and kick some a $ $ and make things better around you. And if you dont do it, that makes u stupid as well as useless. 😛

You lint licker!

hehehehehehe... there are so many motives behind my post. lemme see who can list out everything that i thought about while I was typing the OP. 😛

wow!!! u covered most of it.

((I'm not sure if you want an aqua to use his/her brilliant mind to full potential.))

That included. I was also trying to express my disappointment. If only a handful of aquas have made so much of brilliant changes in the past against all odds, I keep wondering what can happen if 10% of total aquas think abt changing things further around them. Libras have limitations. History says that all libras who tried to make some change went crazy or got assassinated. Aquas haven't. Or we dont know what happened with those not so successful ones. And we dont really like getting assassinated. Bcoz it put an end to our love for sleeping and having sex.

((^^ dude, I said DICK CHENEY.

case in point.))

He have stood next to bush and have successfully killed so many people thereby addressing the population growth problem we all are facing. If US economy goes down in the near future and those % $ ^% $ #@@ $ in wall street commit suicide or begin to sell peanuts for a living, then you can see the genius behind dick's decisions.

((So you first give them the crown, then you take it away?))

am not taking it away. It cannot be taken away. It belongs to them. But sometimes we got kick their a $ $ (spanking for females) and remind them of what they are carrying and the importance of it.

((Aquarian Abraham Lincoln?))

He was the president of US and A. Thats why he got shot. Its a major sport to shoot the presidents around the world. Not bcoz he tried to change things.

Its not yet time to judge dick or bush for their actions. We don't know how things will turn out in future even though it all looks pretty messed up right now.

Now, a decade later, people are still talking about the Age of Aquarius, but with a certain unease. It appears to consist now of things like terrorism, revolution of Iran, Arab-Israeli conflict, a diminishing supply of fuel for the world, and general malaise. Did the Age of Aquarius fall flat on its face? Did it ever arrive? And is Aquarius really about love, brotherhood and Flower Power?

Well, yes, in part Aquarius is about love and brotherhood. Or perhaps, we should say, with more accuracy, that it is about ideals - and the ideals of love and brotherhood are among many which are formulated in the forward-looking Aquarian mind. Particularly ideals about the group, the welfare of humanity, the future of society.

Aquarius is also, broadly, about science, and knowledge, and invention, and discoveries which will improve the lot of men in the generations to come. Fraternit?, egalit?, libert? - the cry of the French Revolution - is in many ways an Aquarian cri de couer. The noblest of human visions are spun from this last of the airy signs, which in its most profound meaning symbolizes the genius of human invention extended to its fullest limits, applied to the control of nature by the will of man and the structuring of humanity into a civilized society.

So what happened to the age of love and brotherhood? The same thing that happens to many Aquarians. The ideal was ahead of its time, as the ideals of many Aquarians all too frequently are. The ideal hit a head-on collision with the reality of human nature, which can't really be explained and governed by ideals alone. Without the ideal, no progress of any kind could take place. Yet the anchoring of an ideal takes time, and flexibility, and a sensitivity to the limitations of human nature. Aquarius is not overly gifted in any of these three things. He is usually impatient, and wants to see the ideal made flesh right this minute. He is not very flexible, although a great lover of

You can see here the dilemma, the gift and the curse of the Aquarian. His symbol is the Waterbearer. Notice carefully that the Waterbearer carries his jug to offer the water of life to humanity - but doesn't get his own hands wet. As an air sign, Aquarius finds his reality in his ideals. Because he is concerned with issues that pertain to the group rather than the individual, you can see the traditional Aquarian link with welfare and human rights. Fields like social work and education and politics are natural for the forward-looking Aquarian who wants to set the world to rights. It's truly the sign of liberty, democracy, and human equality. And Aquarius, as far as his ideals are concerned, is usually truly democratic. One of his nicest qualities is his sense of fairness and integrity. He has a pretty finely honed conscience, which is often so sensitive that it makes his life unbearable. He often has a horror of being what he calls 'selfish', which is very noble but not very psychologically healthy. Regardless of his personal likes and dislikes, his dedication to his beliefs is unshakeable. And this dedication is often to the objective perspective, the broad canvas, a code of ethics or principles by which he believes he should live. And, of course, he is often dedicated to Truth. Yes, it's capitalized, that word Truth. For Aquarius, there is generally only one Truth.

Never mind whether he hates you bitterly. Fair is fair. Aquarius will still deal with you with integrity, because, vile that you are, you're still a human being, and all human beings have certain innate basic rights. Sometimes you'd wish he'd show a little honest unfairness. But no. Fair is fair.

Look at some of the famous Aquarian figures of the past. Abraham Lincoln is one of the best known. Of course it would be an Aquarian who declared equality between black and white in an age of slavery, and abolished slavery with the result of the American Civil War. He was shot for his pains. Many Aquarians suffer the retaliation of the more conservative elements of society for their contributions, which are frequently suspected. You will also see among the distinguished Aquarian names figures like Thomas Edison - great thinkers and inventors whose discoveries are not intended for personal satisfaction or gain, but for the benefit of the human race. Their dedication is absolute; try to find out anything about their personal lives and you're astonished to discover that they seem to have no personal lives. All their energy and ability is taken up with the dedication to the goal, the ideal.

The list of noble, courageous, dedicated idealists is a very long when it comes to Aquarius. So is the list of scientists and philosophers. Can we say anything at all bad about this sign?

Of course we can.

I can think abt few more names without cross checking.
-Charles Darwin
-Nicolaus Copernicus
-Galileo Galilee
-Mozart

Yes ElectroAqua its from songsdomain.

I agree with both; I like the realistic perspective that each pointed out. I never got why we were referred to as idealists, because I am no way an idealists (only in my head).

The other paragraph I posted where it says aquas fail to take into consideration human nature also struck a cord with me. Even though I do realize human nature; I saw the point of the paragraph. When I do have my idealistic moments about society and my practical/realistic nature (used to see the possibilities and implement the idea) I realize its not really plausible or its just too much work to make it so. For example, my plight to reform the U.S. health care system. 😕




LOL @ Likebrad...I like you.

((^No, you're wrong. That's exactly why he got shot.))

It was about overthrowing the govt. he wasn't the sole target. So it wasnt personal.

Its more of a concern and disappointment. I think 99.99% from each signs are useless and only worried about living their life in some way or the other which includes being dictated by others. But that doesn't make them guilty. Bcoz they dont have the right set of capabilities to make major differences for the entire species. They all have different duties and none of them are fully capable of doing what an aqua can achieve. Aquas can think and see the various aspects in a more clearer manner without being influenced by prejudice, belief systems, authority and social psychology. Others simply cannot. They are at all times in some way or the other under the influence of various man made systems. The same systems they have designed and developed over the history to satisfy their major need - self importance.

There are so many things out there which are unproven. Laws that are complex which no human want to understand. Our species rather prefer some cheap belief systems than facing the reality. And who can find them and expose these fake belief systems? As far as i know, only an aqua can go through that. Few other zodiacs can take u close to the point. But only an aqua can put all those together and make sense to the masses.

Saving life is not a big deal. Its another form of expressing human insecurity and selfishness. Its only like healing a wound. Mother Theresa was only a flag carrier for catholic church. Cheap publicity stunt. What Virgos don't know is how to avoid inflicting wounds.

The shortest path towards achieving peace is by understanding every single aspect of this nature. There are other signs who can think about saving life, inventing new medicines, inventing new gadgets, controlling economics etc. those things can be achieved by people with lower brain power. So why is that aquas want to do the same job as what every ordinary people does for a living? Why cant they just think about doing what only they can do - Solving the nature?

"Why cant they just think about doing what only they can do"

Simple. Because no aqua cares about what others think, or we wouldn't be as intellegent and free spirited as we are. We know what we want, and that's to better life for humans...I don't know what the problem is I guess I came too late lol

thelibran: "Saving life is not a big deal."

Definitely an opinion to me, if someone saved me from dying I'd make it more than just a big deal believe that.

((So, let me get this straight. I should be able to sway you over to my "correct" belief system since (according to you) I am all-knowing and all-powerful?))

Its not an all knowing all powerful deal. Its like once you have right set of information in hand, you can process and discover things at a faster rate than others. I did explained the reasons why aquas dont always acquire those informations.
((...still wasting their life without realizing how amazing they can be if they can stop being stubborn with many of their current convictions.))

Aquas lack the capacity to carry themselves out of the existing mess they are in unless someone is going to take the pain to push them out of it. Your stubbornness holds you where you are. So till someone start to push them(which they hate), they dont move from the point where they are comfortable. You are not a cardinal sign to take initiative on your own. Thats our job. To identify the capabilities and push them towards the path you they are experts at. And thats exactly what am trying to do.

((We know what we want)) Its only a reflection of existing social system which have been set by others. Knowing what you want and doing what you are good at are two different things. You may not like doing what you are good at. but that doesn't change the fact that you carry exceptional qualities in that field. The moment you begin chasing what you want, it would begin to look like you are stroking yourself.

Your natural capabilities to make a change are your burden. You are like Frodo Baggins. gotta carry this burden and do what no one else can do. You will need some pisces take the role Samwise.

((Definitely an opinion to me, if someone saved me from dying I'd make it more than just a big deal believe that.))
Someone saving you from death and someone taking it as their responsibility to save everyone who are incapable of doing anything with their life are two different situations. The reason why human society produces so much of helpless people is simply bcoz we made a wrong social system. You can do a better job by changing that social system in a way it doesn't produce helpless people. Thats what you are better at. And thats something others cannot do.

((I have no fear of initiating something new, experiencing new opportunities and adventures.))

Whom does it benefit? Most of your initiatives are only meant to benefit you or its just a job you are doing. Its not going to reflect heavily on the world. Like george carlin says people are too fat and happy these days. They simply dont want to take much of an effort.

((I doubt seriously that anyone is pushing me for MY sake.)) Again its a self centered way of seeing things. Why does it have to be always for your sake? May be you will be learning more and achieving more in the long run if you think of doing something for others sake. How can you know if you dont try? These are basic issues aquas have to tackle. There is a point to which a libra can do things. But what we can discover in 10 years can be achieved by an aqua in 10 months if we both carry the same information and motivation. Thats my issue. If we can get someone to solve something in 10 months, why should we spend 10 years on it only to get shot at the end of the game? And is it just us going to benefit out of that?

What all this boils down to can be put into one rather unpleasant word: hypocrisy. This is the greatest danger, the greatest foible in the Aquarain temperament. He says one thing and often does another unwittingly. And it's frequently those closest that suffer for it. Take his ideals of equality, for example. You'll hear many Aquarians wax eloquent on this theme. Whether it's equality between races, or freedom to worship as one pleases, or equality of rights between the sexes, Aquarius can go on for hours on this theme, once he gets warmed up. But you'll often see a pronounced inequality displayed in his personal life - especially toward those who display the emotionalism or irrationality which he so fears and despises. His wife, often is given no real 'equality' - he simply can't be bothered to listen to anything which isn't presented in a logical form. His children are often given no real 'equality' - their demands are too selfish, too emotional, for his taste. His real equality is reserved for verbal debate, when he will always offer his opponent the right to speak. But equality of heart is often difficult for him, because his concept of equality is limited to the realm of ideas and intellect.

Another adjunct to this particular shadow side of Aquarius is his propensity to reform everybody. This, too, is contradictory to his belief that all people should be granted freedom of choice, so long as they agree with him. Watch a zealous Aquarian pursuing his pet subject - whether it is women's liberation, socialism, distribution of wealth, ecology, or whatever. Usually his hobby-horses always concern the benefit of some group or other. But if you don't happen to agree with him, you're given short shrift. No equality for you. You've disagreed; and of course there's only one truth, isn't there? Often Aquarius can't see the paradox in his behaviour. The epitome of it is in what Marx called Dialectic Materialism. Or perhaps in Democracy: government by the people, of the people, for the people. And if you don't agree with it, then, by God, you'll be made to. The

((Do you know what our personal accomplishments are?))

Who cares what you do for yourself? 😛 Everyone do things for themselves. And if you do something for others, obviously you are not doing enough. Bcoz outside world is still fckd up. And there have been so many generations of aquas who have died thinking they are doing their best like you do. Obviously they weren't. Bcoz if they had, then things would have been far better and we wouldn't have been facing a possible extinction of our own species. hell!! we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Only a few did and that alone have made so much of change. But thats not enough. We are still a threat to our own future. And how can you know for sure that you are utilizing the maximum of your brain? Now since things are way messier than it should have been, you all will have to think harder and faster to solve things before its late.

"Plus we need a shift in our selfish/materalistic way of thinking our current society kills a lot o humanitarian impulses and creative flair . We need everyone playing their part then aqua can play its part too."

aaawww! that's so true, kris. i am surprised to hear you say that but nevertheless i'm glad you recognize it.

((Now it's the Aqua's fault the world is effed up.))

yup yup. you all are so lazy. 😛 those materialistic earth and water signs have been screwing things up for centuries and we are not doing much to keep our ideals. we tend to bend a lot to their silly methods and ideologies.

((You are nuttier than the nuttiest nut tree. By using aquas as a scapegoat, you are proving that you are not using your brain to its greatest potential.))

Yes am crazy. and I would blame the older generation aquas for that. If they had done things properly, i wouldn't hv gone crazy thinking all these stuffs up. But am not using aquas as scapegoat. Instead am using my brain to its full potential and the best solution I figured out was to provoke and persuade aquas into thinking further so they can take things one step better. What you do for a living doesn't count as a contribution. Stop watching baseball and use that time to think about how to sort out every single problem in the best way. You are not that good in doing things but you are best in thinking and discovering. So do that whenever you get time. and Aquas dont have to worry about going crazy bcoz you all are born crazy. So one less worry. I know you will hate me for being so pushy. But i cant help it you see. The older generation have done very less. So we will have to work overtime and pay for their laziness.

lol!!!

awww, I knew kris had some sense.🙂

*sheds le tear*

lmao @ the temp

*nods* @ p-f e. now you're getting it. hahahahahahaha.

Those warnings are only meant for non air signs. Its always intellectually simulating for gems, aquas and libras to discuss anything. We dont take anything personal and dont attack anyone. We simply discuss with free flowing thoughts by dancing and floating in the air....

I appreciate your faith in us thelibran although your a bit dogmatic in your ways.

You werent like this before, when did it all change?

hahaha... A libra changes all the time. Most times we just dont let anyone see it. My ways would make more sense if you can begin to wonder what is it that am aiming at. None of these would benefit me personally. I am hoping for more and more intense exchange of ideas and thought provoking theories which would collectively contribute towards future. And someday it will all begin to make so much of sense to everyone if we all keep discussing.

Most people exhibit a reluctance towards new perspectives and theories even when they are capable of forming a lot of theories on their own. They are only scared to make themselves look ridiculous so they keep their mouth shut. They do that few many times and slowly they quit thinking and forming their own ideas. Its ok to make oneself look ridiculous if the motive and expected end result is good.

"I am hoping for more and more intense exchange of ideas and thought provoking theories which would collectively contribute towards future."

I kinda figured thats what you wanted, but your going about it all wrong. Can you not see your abrasive tactics arent working. You of all people should know we are stubborn 😉 You cant force us to do anything!

Like you said and air sign can discuss anything amongst other air signs with just free flowing knowledge and no problems/attacks, try coming to us again with that approach and see what happens.

hehehehe... certain posts are meant to ignite certain subconscious drives. Those who are meant to benefit out of this thread have already absorbed few points and that would remain in their brain for ages and when the time is right, they would begin to use it. You can never say who benefits from it in which way. You can tell the same thing again and again to a person for years and he may not understand or listen to it. But in a forum, the situation is different. You drop a bomb and let it explode. Most will run for cover but few will take the damage. and these damages will gradually change the course of their life. But if you dont say it out loud, no one would benefit.

People are too comfortable with their life's that they simply cannot be bothered with a normal talk. You can give them too much of a shock which would displace them off from their comfort zone of thoughts.

I had a fierce argument and a fight with my aqua friend few months ago. She yelled at me like anything. Didn't talked to me for weeks. But I did what I had to do to solve her problem. I pushed her off her comfort zone and made her do things which was essential for her future. She knew she wasn't doing anything about it and only whining and things wont change like magic with her current stand. But she did nothing. And I had to risk our friendship to make her do something.

I see.

Ive checked your site; you've added a bit to it. Good luck with your research.

my site? how u know I have a site? :-O

Well I dont hope to see perfection. Its more about the maximum possible stage of stability. World is made of various parts but as we can see, the only species which cause so much of trouble for themselves and other species is us humans. Rest everyone goes about with their own business. Though we lovingly label ourselves as intelligent beings, its quite clear that what humans consider as intelligence kinda looks stupidity from the natures perspective. And this humans are still living based on so many stupid belief systems and ideologies and major governing factor is ignorance. We as a species are still ignorant about so many things what control our life. Till we discover them all, we will continue to live based on our lousy assumptions and we will keep making errors. So if few more aquas can dig things further and explain every single thing the way it is than allowing the earth and water to keep lecturing their lousy orthodox assumptions about life and nature, things would begin to change for good. If you can prove things once and forever in an undeniable fashion, things would change and we will slowly begin to attain this intellectual stability. But till the day all the confusions are answered, we will be living in misery.

Honestly, imo, its not an impossible task to solve everything. Its easy if you try. But it takes so much of effort to find that out by experimenting with our own life. And it takes time. And its going to be quite hard to change the way current generation believes. But sooner or later, those people who prefer to believe things will be forced to face reality. may be with a couple of generations. Darwin said something. Its still not believed by majority of human beings even after few generations have passed. Why? Bcoz others haven't really cared to complete the picture. There are so many missing links which have to be addressed. Else the picture wont be complete and majority will hesitate to buy an incomplete picture as truth and would rather prefer to live with their existing belief systems.

When its truly balanced, people would find it impossible to find happiness by unbalancing it.

Im psychic. You didnt know?

I dont remember mentioning abt my never-updated website. anyway i recently uploaded whatever i hv written so far into my site. and once am done with my abstract edition, i would sure post it here to listen to all criticisms.

Hence my psychic abilities. 🙂

((Therefore, if we could make ourselves absolutely satisfied and complacent, we wouldn't survive, for the society would become stagnant.))

We all evaluate our amount of happiness by relating ourselves to the society around us and comparing ourselves with others on a constant basis. suppose we manage to elevate the amount of happiness slowly by removing few systems which are the main cause of misery, slowly it would become a normal state of mind for any human being. Reality is that humans carry the potential for being happy. All we have to do is to find out how nature have designed the system and use it to bring out that happiness. So far we have been trying to invent various belief systems and trying to compete with nature thinking it could make us happy. It wont work as we have seen its outcome.

((Hence my psychic abilities.))

am i suppose to get paranoid like gemini's— Actually only one of my friend have read whatever i hv written so far. And she is an aqua. I dont think you are her. 😛

Why would my abilities make you paranoid? I use my powers only for good. You are correct I am not your aqua friend...but then again anything is possible...

lol!!! Gemini's usually get paranoid for every innocent act which is no way going to trouble them.

((Yet at this moment I do not know any other Pisces (other than Einstein) with new visions. Can somebody help?))

That has made me thinking tat probably Einstein wasn't Pisces but an Aqua with a wrong birth record.

There are things which cannot be understood if you are a conformist. You will be going around in circles and making no attempt to see things in any different perspective than its known within the circle. You can try to build a fresh new way of seeing and comprehending this world. Every time u think you know something, its an error. bcoz you are seeing it for the first time. You need to start by finding methods to think accurately. All you know is that you cannot afford to make a mistake. And like that try to see if this human society and its actions make any sense to you.

Libran: you are quite the instigator? Although I do not have time for the finite details of your lengthy posts...most Aquarians are not into finite details.

my question to You, being a LIBRA, you are also CARDINAL. why arent you leading? why are you sitting there talking of a circus but never training the elephants?

I'm a Cancer- but Aquarius moon.
I too am CARDINAL as a Cancer. Take the bull by the horns instead of just talking about it.

The best way to lead aquas is to tell them what they can do, scold them midly if they dont want to do and then leave them alone and watch. They dont need to be directed. Only initializing like pressing a button to start the entire machine. And I think i have done it but I cannot be sure since its online world and none of us know each other personally. But in personal life I am getting certain supports from aquas whenever I am in need just by a casual chat. I can either hit one of the choices i had and then hope it would mature into something productive or I can run around and hit everyone I come across depending on my mood and hope the randomness within the group stands a better possibility for productive outcome in a natural fashion. By doing that, I am doing the best I can without wasting too much time.

I dont want anyone to waste their personal time and then contribute to the society. That sounds like politics and civil service to me. You will automatically begin to expect things back from the society when you are working for them. But everyone can contribute by thinking during every free time they get and sharing it across and then discussing and polishing their thoughts. While you are in the passenger seat, while you are taking a shower, while you are eating, while you go for a walk... all these activities doesn't need 100% of your brain power. You can do a lot of things using the unused brain and run a lot of thoughts in the back burner. It will all contribute.

stubbornness for a libra is only temporary. we can change our views the moment someone can prove us wrong. Else we stick to what we learned from experience. There is nothing like know-it-all. i hv been proved wrong so many times in past. And it only helps me reinvent the entire thing all over again. After u do it for years, you would naturally carry so much of information than anyone else. Saggi can see a bit deeper than libra once they know what the libra knows.

((Aquas cannot be another way than in opponent. So they don't need your trigger.))

I have 5 aquas in my office out of 14 staffs. I talk to one of them every now and then when we meet during lunch or while making a coffee. I start a subject and share my views. He mention his views and reasons and leaves me surprised. Its always one step better. But till i mention mine, he wont say his. His brain already might be knowing but not caring to speak it out loud. So after so many encounters i began to wonder what if he really think about sharing all his views with outside world than just discussing it with me? How much changes can it bring?
Most aquas know things but they wont use it or discuss it. Is aqua gaining out of that? no. Does this society gains something out of that? no. Once in a while some aquas try to use all these bcoz of various supporting factors and they all bring changes. But majority does abs nothing.

TL, according to most websites, Nicolaus Copernicus was a Pisces. =) ..gently scrapes him back off the aqua board.. 😉

lol... Its still a confusing thing. Long time ago it was mentioned that he was born Jan beginning - cappy. Then became Feb. I havent seen him under pisces though.

i know, i don't know where all the confusion is coming from, unless bad records were kept. Many sites say February 28, 1473, then a few say February 19 ..even still, depending on entry of the sun, there are pisceans born on the 19th, as well. Astrotheme, the big daddy of astrology sites, says February 19, Pisces. But ..at any rate, maybe nothing in stone. i've only known him as a Pisces, though.