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I dont know about the astrology sites. In carl sagans cosmos, if am not wrong, it was mentioned as Jan beginning during the narration of his early life. But in most biographies, it was Feb19. Time is unknown so we can never be sure. Possibly pisces. But he was never recorded as a dreamer. And most of his friends were fire or air sign as per records. Then he expected to become a priest by his peers but he left spiritual path to pursue Astronomy. All these makes me think he is Aqua and not Pisces.
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((All are God's children. All are good.))
Who is this God?

Most people have some birth records. If not their character traits are explained by many people. All these are reflections of their zodiac.

((But, I'm glad to know we have such creative personalities like....))
There are more aquas. Benny Hill, FDR, Charles Dickens. Rasputin was born on 10th Jan as per old calender. As per new calender it would be 22nd Jan(12-15 days shift) making him aqua.

Libras look stubborn bcoz we dont like to follow others perspective unless there is a valid reason. We hate to make mistakes and listening to others is an easy way to get into trouble. We trust ourselves and our decisions though its often delayed due to various factors. So whoever says whatever, most times we know why they say it and whats the reason behind their thoughts and everything they failed to consider. So we ignore it even before they have finished talking. We carry a huge mental block against people who try to sell their belief systems to us and we would definitely say no without even caring to think about it. Mainly bcoz 99% it would be bs and we dont want to repeat the same mistakes they all are making.

However, I have figured out that we can blindly follow an Aries orders bcoz most times Aries makes exceptionally perfect decisions in split second due to their sharp instincts(even though there are some screwed up versions of Aries). The only other group who make such perfect decisions are libras but we cannot do it the way Aries does. We think everything and analyze it carefully. Aries can achieve the same perfection using their instinctual behavior.

Now can anyone guess what it means by perfection here? 😛
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((I just think that the possibilities for everyone are open-ended.

Overall, if you were just saying that Aquarians should work hard, then alrighty--I shall do my best!))

Well a humans possibilities are restricted by his brains capabilities to solve problems. There is no case like if person A can do it, then person B can also do it. Though thats what current field of psychology believes unless person B is diagnosed with some psychological or biological disorder. But in reality, its far different. bcoz their functionalities of brain is different. It can be easily established. In real life situations, we can try to advise a better solution to a problem a taurean is facing and see if he will listen to us. No he wont and he cannot. We can try to do the same thing with a libra and see how we react. And then ask libra to make a decision on his own and give him choice and give the same choices to a taurean and see how they both react.

So its constrained for each zodiac group in particular ways. And assuming that other planets also influence us, we can guess that each group has a set of common brain pattern and further sub patterns based on other planets.

I am not trying to make it work like in an idealized setting. and even if it looks so, its not what i personally think it have to be. Its what i think naturally it was meant to be if we never got carried away with ignorant assumptions since prehistoric times. probably that would be like to live like cavemen. I dont know. May be thats the only balanced state possible.

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((Combining intuition, intellect and common sense reason to achieve some creative goal without stepping on other people's toes.))

nope. if am not wrong, we sense nature and wait for the right time to take the action. its the timing which is most important to us to achieve that perfection - where every single thing will fall into its places surprising ourselves. This thing we learn it accidentally and next time onwards we are aware of the fact that we can achieve something more accurate if we can wait and listen to our instincts. We keep our choices and evaluations of the situations ready and start waiting for something. We dont know what would turn out to be best and we dont know when to do it. We can force ourselves to take a decision without waiting but it would never give us that ultimate perfection we prefer to achieve. So we wait till we feel the go signal from instincts. We get confused if we are hallucinating and doubt ourselves and sometimes continue to wait. This process keep going till we finally get rid of fear and act according to that timing.

Aries does the same in split second bcoz their brain is most times free from past patterns and its influences which would have scared them. They are most times in perfect sync with nature as long as they are truly themselves not living under pressure.

ok i gotta run now. hvnt chkd whatever i typed.
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and i used to be agnostic and saw myself as gods favorite child before LS posted this subject in libra board and we all had a discussion(Indecision or divine timing thread).

till then i used to think I am special. i must be having some purpose in life. god must be having some big plans for me bcoz all these amazing miraculous things which happen to me. Then after this discussion, i realized its not just me but a general issue with libra, there was serious mismatch with the idea of God and purpose of life. Bcoz I was no more special. So i went on to deduct further based on current informations and started wondering if its the same surroundings under which everyone faces "luck", "miracle" at some point of time in their life which makes them think there is somebody called God. When I figured out animals achieve this sync without even praying or worshiping, i had no choice than to think about the possibility that its purely natural and there must be some continues flow of communication between every energy source. which after a while made me an atheist.

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I do agree us cancer's have potential and are full of ideas but we want to avoid conflict. SO we mostly keep are mouth shut. To get a cancer to speak his mind you'd first have to piss him off about something that is just so obvious. First off what is the meaning of life most popular question. some will give you answers but it all comes down to ONE. The meaning of Life is to find one's true happiness. Live life carefree. Now to the point of this. IF everyone just see's this and work with it we would not have any problems instead we have people fighting over money economy when they could just work together and come up with a solution. Now lets go back to the Aquarius issue. Everyone is like this don't start pointing figures when you really don't have a clue but maybe one inexperience acquaintance that happens to be an Aquarius. So now you feel that you have the power of control with pointless view's of being lazy when in truth you could be the one that needs to get up and do something. Hell we all do! Your pointless words are meaningless. If there is no action! Why explain what doesn't need to be explained. DO you think that we don't already know this? c'mon man... The world as we know it is coming at an end slowly but surely in the hands of argent idea's an uneducated foreign leaders that just want to blow things up. But not in our life time. You want to change the world? Go ahead a few will listen. But if your going to start something I would suggest learning the facts before jumping in a pool of sharks. You have the right mind in things but Do not go it negatively and say that if they don't have the same views and ideas as you there automatically stupid and useless. And also why depend on GOD? You make the Miracles happen who gets up and works who makes your decisions.. God? does he move your legs for you and feed you and say here comes the chew chew train. does he wipe your ass every time you take a shit? I don't think so. He is there to inspire us and help us on our journey to happiness (greatness even). Or then I could be wrong and you could be right about the whole thing. What do I know.. Prove me wrong. btw I just read you first message and glimpse of the other's if I am mistaken on some parts I apologize. I don't have anything agents you at all just wanted to speak my mind for once. And I happen to be surfing the Aquarius forum because this girl I like is I think an Aquarius and need info. so yea. btw you and I have the same ascendent.
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((I donno why you do it but I have no need to discuss God...atheist or not.))

I used to be the same when I was religious and agnostic. I used to tell others that "you will never understand" simply bcoz i wasnt clear of what i must be talking and how can i explain it. Its just a mental block formed due to lack of awareness. Not to offend you. but to make you think if you may wish
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((But if your going to start something I would suggest learning the facts before jumping in a pool of sharks.))

You probably haven't grasped the situation in its right perspective. And honestly, water or earth people would never understand a single thing from this thread in its true meaning. I am not sitting lazy and doing nothing. I am doing what I can. But there are things which i cannot do. only an aqua can do. and what we are trying to do is to sort out the mess water and earth people have created during the past.
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We are all capable of doing what an "Aquarius" can do. Why limit yourself? We are not build by one star sign we are Meany witch makes us who we are. unique in our own way. Do each your own. As for me I have no limits. If I wanna play the guitar by god I will learn how to play it. If you want something bad enough you will do things that will surprise even you. For example I am motivated by beautiful women inspired even. They motivate me to reach the my goals. Just a nice smile from them will make my day and bring out 110% of my potential. I love them and they love me. ANd if that makes me a pervert SO be it! I am proud to be a pervert! nuff said.

I know this is going to bite me in the ass later... oh well.
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Wow... who would believe that? I'm done. Obviously you believe in something I don't. No point in making each other believe one another's views. even tho mine has more logic to it. You really believe that? O my the world has gone to the dogs where people stops believing in them selves and look up to others. WE CAN ACHIVE ANYTHING We PUT OUR MINE INTO?. you can justify more of your bullshit. But I'm done with this pointlessness. Be weak. walk blindly and ignorant into the world and find an Aquarius to brown nose and feed you. Oh ok now I know. Your Virgo moon will do anything to sound correct even tho it is not. Ok your right I'm wrong. This is pointless I'm done wasting my time with you. Your completely 1837576943% right. The End.

Now if you would excuse me I have an Aquarius girl to figure out. And seeking to improvement.

tho she could be Taurus...

Anyways Good Luck.
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*sigh*

Fine go ahead and read it...

This will be my last post to you since your just to ignorant to possibly understand another human being.

How about this こんにちはみんなさん、

私はヴォイタで、プラハのカレルの大学で日本語を勉強 しています。6ヶ月前に勉強が始まったんですが、日本 語があまり上手じゃありません。でも、本当にがんばっ ています。今年 の夏には日本へ行く予定です。東京や東北や北海道を旅 行するつもりです。ですから、日本に来たら、このフォ ーラム の友達と会いたいで、パーテイーしよう not sure what it says but maybe you do...

אין להעלות קבצי וידאו/אודיו או קישורים לקבצים אלו ללא הרשאת מנהל הפורום מראש.
בכל השרשורים חובה לציין את שם מנהל הפורום שהעניק את ההרשאה להעלאת הקבצים.
כל קובץ וידא
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Didnt fit it all here is the rest.

?? —_? —?? —? —? —?? ?? —— ?_—. ?_? — —?? —??.
Getting to you yet?

Hello, my name is Shaekha Al-Shammry, I had sex with my sister and now I would like to get married with her we have a new child last name of Al-Shammry. My father is so proud to finally become a grandfather.

how about that one? no not yet? ok...

Demadema Ola to ta lo mala pa bootoo shalem omba de omla umpa lumpa tok tok wala wala bing bang. Umpalamaitamatiano sheimo comp temo boobs boobs licky licky.

enough said...

Go ahead and use your little (( signs and quote me if that makes you feel better.
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I'm gonna take the first part of your post at face value(can't afford any misunderstandings when it comes to humor, it's a serious business).

I pretended "* escapes" is one of those action-thingy Aedimus was so fund of.

"It's like a TOTALLY different language, and it is all determined by element. Fascinating.
Why didn't I think of that, me being the "Aqua Genius" that I am?? When I am not out saving the world, I will be studying foreign elemental languages, so that I can communicate with my underlings."

Not, I think it's just the lack of a period at the end of my post. Bad punctuation can really throw people off.
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or what about that simple two letter word - up?

It's easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we awaken in the morning, why do we wake UP? At a meeting, why does a topic come UP? Why do we speak UP and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report?

We call UP our friends. And we use it to brighten UP a room, polish UP the silver, we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen. We lock UP the house and some guys fix UP the old car. At other times the little word has real special meaning. People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and think UP excuses. To be dressed is one thing, but to be dressed UP is special.

And this UP is confusing: A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP. We open UP a store in the morning but we close it UP at night.

We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP! To be knowledgeable about the proper uses of UP , look the word UP in the dictionary. In a desk-sized dictionary, it takes UP almost 1/4th of the page and can add UP to about thirty definitions. If you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more. When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP. When the sun comes out we say it is clearing UP.

When it rains, it wets the earth and often messes things UP.

When it doesn't rain for awhile, things dry UP.



Fess UP...you like this!
One could go on and on, but I'll wrap it UP, for now my time is UP, so............ Time to shut UP.....!
Oh...one more thing:
What is the first thing you do in the morning and the last thing you do at night?
U-P

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TRUE! OMG...I DO THAT.
How did you know—


Well ya see...it's like this. I gots me a most booteeful crystal ball sitting on my trunkless elephant table (not sure how he lost that!) anywho...when the mood strikes and the voices in my head tell me to look into the unique ball - I look. Simple ya see?

there you were...sitting down on the water basin complete with flush handle, relaxing. yeah....I knew what you were doing - can't get nuthin' past the Freebird 😉
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((Of course you can - you made a choice to say it.))
Of course i made a choice - to be honest than being scared to say what went through my head. Or do u really think that one should worry more about saving their image than being open and direct?

I am not trying to push a thread up every morning and evening. just replying to others responses. I can once again choose not to. But that wouldn't make any change or progress in any direction.

Most aquas have only one bullet in their gun. And they are too stubborn to make up their mind to reload it. But that single bullet always surprises me and makes me think they are loaded. I wait for the next shot but it never happens for ages.
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((So let's say we are now The Aquarian Coalition for Change. Draw up a proposal, a plan, and submit it to us, and then let's see what we can do to help you out.So let's say we are now The Aquarian Coalition for Change. Draw up a proposal, a plan, and submit it to us, and then let's see what we can do to help you out.))

hehehehehe... Isnt that obvious? What do you think is the very basic requirement to met in order to solve the bigger trouble? We need a perfect fool proof hypothesis of the system of astrology on how exactly it works. Its hard to teach astrology to an aqua who dont want to learn it. bcoz they are stubborn. but now since u guys know a lot of things about astrology, you can easily think about it in detail and build up the exact structure of astrology in which it works. You must remember that a major part of astrology is simply bs and human creation to support his anxiety about the unknown and tomorrow. But there is a major part of it which can be proven to the scientific world. There are things which can be skipped for the time being while on the process of proving things in order to make it easy for the people who try to comprehend it. Esp everything that got to do with other planets. Unless someone can prove it to the scientific world, nothing will ever change. Once u prove it, or even build a fool proof hypothesis it will create so much of change. Those essential changes for the betterment of the system.

Can anyone here do that?
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((Do you have a better theory than mine?))

Ohh yes: you cannot make a theory without knowing the details of the subject you are dealing with.

((since the theory can not be falsified, it is pseudo science, and since astrology is pseudo science, it is NOT SCIENCE.))What if existing field of science is constrained? What if it haven't been proved because of various psychological factors which complicate the situation—

((It is not a science. It is a belief. Some have it some not.))
A part of Science itself is a belief system. And if you can see a lot of supporting factors and a lot of contradictory factors, what does it mean?? the system of astrology is wrong or the theory is wrong? If the theory is wrongly explained, it can give the same results. and if you see a lot of supporting evidence, it only means there is more to it but somehow twisted. So couldn't there be a perfect explanation if people can think?

You cannot prove things about your mars and venus till you have proved your sun part to be 100% true. First you need to build a structure based on sun and another theory exclusively for sun and other planets to test it later once sun alone is proved. Without that you wont go further.

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The part of science which explains human psychology, intelligence, thinking, and whatever is related to brain except for the biological parts of brain - That is a belief system.

((Astrology will have "contradictory factors", because it is not based on anything real or concrete or consistent or measurable--It is a belief system.))

When Copernicus started working on the heliocentric model, he had so many contradictory factors. Bcoz the existing theories on heliocentric model(which were unproven) suggested that planets were revolving around the sun in circular fashion and the mapping of planets in the sky couldn't give him a circular path. If he was stupid enough to think that the entire concept is wrong bcoz of these contradictory factors, things would have never been proven. Instead he went ahead and figured out how exactly it revolves around thereby changing the existing belief. Same goes with astrology. Part of the interpretations of astrology and how it affects human nature are not yet explained.

Now about being measurable. How can u measure thought? Is there any existing methodology to measure the amount of bits processed inside my head in a second? NO. can Science ever find it? No. So lets not waste our time trying to fit astrology into the existing narrow minded perspective of Science.

Like I said before, its not easy to teach astrology to an aqua bcoz of their stubbornness to think on an alternate perspective. Its not that they dont know what prevents them from learning; its just that they dont want to know. So every time i try to explain something, your brain will keep looping with the existing information in your brain and will keep trying to find points to defend your existing knowledge. I dont mind replying to your arguments but it wont change anything for anyone except you. I think thats waste of time because it would only benefit one person.
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((Come with a fully baked idea, and I'll listen to what you have to say. Yes, I will compare what you have to say to my existing knowledge, but if you are really familiar with how the brain works, then you should expect nothing other than that to happen))

I don't expect you to listen or understand. I am only replying to your questions. I know you cannot comprehend the situation from an alternate perspective till you get to see the complete picture. But just because you don't cannot comprehend the limited available information, you wish to think that the entire system is wrong. That, logically is stupid.

((Those things along with behavior can ALL be measured--I do it every day.))
Those measurements only make the reflection of collective form of social psychology. Not individual psychology. Thats the mistake science have been doing for years.
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((Prove that. How is it "logically stupid"? What instrument would you use to measure my "logical stupidity" with--how would you quantify your results?))

ok. You may have seen some supporting factors along with the contradictory factors in astrology if am not wrong. Now you say you dont believe in astrology bcoz of the contradictory factors. What about the supporting factors?? like obvious character traits? Do you choose to ignore them because there are many contradictory factors? Or would you try to understand why there are supporting factors existing in the first place and how it happened to be there?? and may be investigate it before you vote in favor of the contradictory factors? If you are scientific in approach and thinking critically, its your responsibility to find out the reasons behind the supportive factors before dismissing the case after encountering the contradictory factors. You never did that. That makes your logic for not trying to understand simply 'stupid'. Its irrational. Because you wished not to cross examine the factors which makes people believe in astrology and dismissed it right away because there were many contradictory factors.

Same goes with Atheist ideologies. The moment they reject religious beliefs as hallucinations, they are liable to explain the exact reasons why many people become religious after they have reached the age of reason. There must be a strong psychological reason why people believe in a higher power. Their understanding about the power may be wrong due to traditional belief systems and its brainwashing methodologies. But that doesn't mean there is could be no so called 'higher power'. And if there is a such a power, that also doesn't mean it will be higher in the sense they think is higher. It could be collective also. There is definitely something out there which makes them think its a higher power. Instead of finding out what it could and in what form, and why it makes people think its a higher power, some stupid people try to say it doesn't exist and its all hallucination. That makes them non-scientific right away. That makes them stupid because they are not solving the problem completely. They are only finding reasons to counter the arguments of religious people than explaining why such arguments originated in the first place.

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Also, do you know the consequences of spoon feeding my explanations to other zodiacs than making them think on their own and persuade them to discover things on their own? The first one is not convincing enough because you will be asked to understand the experiments I have done with my life and you probably would never understand it because of your different zodiac settings. But when you experiment on your own and think on your own, you cannot escape from convincing evidences you would encounter and will be forced to address them because it would hurt your pride to make a mistake.
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((The reason for the few supporting factors are due to something commonly referred to as probability, a strand of mathematics that I'm sure you're familiar with, yet don't seem to take into account.))

I do agree that the reasons definitely appear as probability when you try to analyze the system using your existing knowledge of the system. But as you can see, if your idea of how you think and how to comprehend the system itself is not crystal clear, whatever you comprehend will also appear as probability. And as far as we know, science is still clueless about how brain works and how intelligence is processed. Which simply means you don't know how exactly your brain process informations acquired through various sources. There are no known methods to observe the working mechanisms of your brain. That doesn't mean brain doesn't process anything. It does and it generates a lot of output. What you think stop scientists from finding how our brain functions? And it has to be noted that they are capable of comprehending how rest of our body works because they can see it and observe it.

Would you prefer to believe that our physical body is controlled by natural factors but our thoughts are unnatural because we failed to comprehend the details of it? Or would you consider thinking about the possibility that if physical body is controlled and influenced by nature, then our thought process can also be controlled by nature?

Also, would you consider taking necessary efforts to comprehend how thoughts are processed and formed and controlled by nature or prefer to think its not important to find out the details? Unless you get it right, you will never get any thing right. Everything we think will be processed using a crippled set of informations and the outcome of those thoughts would eventually contribute to our own destruction.
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I have done this too. Couldn't really afford to get statistics out. And i ended up with the same deductions about possibilities like you did.
But I made a different discovery. 8/10 times when they cast actors(esp for the movies which really makes a difference/blockbusters), most directors end up casting in zodiac pairs which generates the connection between actors. And in the dvd commentary, many times its mentioned why they picked this specific actress to do this role and how they were happy with the "right chemistry".

Also when they make biopic films, they end up casting the same zodiac signs(though accidentally and directors wont be going with zodiacs if u know studio system works) who matches the original characters expressions and gestures to the closest possible fashion. Sometimes another sign from the same element or friendly element. Anthony Hopkins as Nixon, Armand Assante as Nietzsche are main examples where their 'portrayal' of the original person had striking resemblance.
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((It's all because we are prone to extend our imagination and see prove for every butter.))

Yup that is very true. Most astrologers, religious performers as well as politicians and business people does the same thing. Because they all have a reason - Money. That changes everything. You will sure allow yourself to talk bs and believe in anything if its going to make you rich. But that doesn't mean no one can find truth in btween this mess. Its possible if we work only to find truth irrespective of whatever we find and how its going to affect us or change our lives. And it really doesnt matter if others agree with that or not because most people will have various reasons not to agree with the truth. It would take few generations before its accepted. Darwin found something, still majority of population are religiously blind. They dont even allow themselves to see the logic and think further about it. Bcoz religion satisfies their insecurity.

We should not hesitate to speculate but we should also be critical with our speculations and facts. Skepticism can cross its allowed limits when we ourselves are psychologically messed up even in the slightest fashion. Which could blind you from the simple truth even if its placed right in front of our eyes.
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((well it happened to me that I first knew I was a Rabbit. So I extended my imagination and realize how it was truly me. When I read the Sag traits I said it was me too. But a few years ago I insisted I was a Pisces which was ridiculus cause Pisces and Sags are not neighbour. But cause chinese Rabbit has similarity to Pisces I was ok with that.))

Happens with most people. Most people believe the entire thing blindly if a bit of the information can surprise them. We dont teach them how to think critically in primary schools. Thats the major issue.
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Well thelibran, i think you are pretty stupid. Even the Aquarian that i tried to pin stupidity on, ended up proving me wrong and i failed miserably. Because, deep down underneath, she knew exactly what she was doing. I am still trying to catch her out, it is a constant battle between us. She thinks she is unintelligent. I merely say, you need more 'self esteem'!