Aries daughter knows how to injure my heart (Page 2)

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Doesn’t matter how old I am.

Doesn’t matter that they want me to make mistakes and learn by myself. Bc they do. But in that instant my parents would make sure I learned today.

Learned very very well

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Your eldest is a disorderly, aggressive drunk, who takes police time from more important duties, and you come here complaining about your youngest....? Because your youngest DARED to point out to your motherly duties?

WTF?! Are you a bloody narcissist who came here to play the victim, and not even realize how unjust your actions are....?

Yes, it IS your f-king responsibility! People like your eldest need someone who is in charge, because they lost it! She should not be allowed to drink, let alone go out for drinks! You need to talk, threaten, slap, coerce, control her and everyone WHO TAKES HER FOR DRINKS. Put your alcohol-crazed eldest daughter in the rehab, before she kills someone, herself included!

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At least 6% of the population has NPD. Another x% has no idea they have it. Everyone should know about it. It's not about admiring yourself constantly, is far more sinister.

I have read so much about them in the past few weeks, that I started to recognize narcissistic traits easily....including the fact that my mother was one of them.

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Your eldest is a disorderly, aggressive drunk, who takes police time from more important duties, and you come here complaining about your youngest....? Because your youngest DARED to point out to your motherly duties?

WTF?! Are you a bloody narcissist who came here to play the victim, and not even realize how unjust your actions are....?

Yes, it IS your f-king responsibility! People like your eldest need someone who is in charge, because they lost it! She should not be allowed to drink, let alone go out for drinks! You need to talk, threaten, slap, coerce, control her and everyone WHO TAKES HER FOR DRINKS. Put your alcohol-crazed eldest daughter in the rehab, before she kills someone, herself included!

Never in my life have I ever been accused of being a narcissist. It's almost laughable how quickly you can jump on to one of my threads to state that. My actions are unjust?? I'm super curious as to how? You don't know me from your neighbor down the road, ma'am! So, you must be one of those "helicopter parents" who are perfect in all they do. You must have some adult children who have never left the nest, because you have to control the aspects of their lives...And by the way...her SISTER took her out for drinks. She drinks once or twice a month... Check yourself. click to expand

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Yes, NPDs have a fav child (the one that sucks up to them) and a scapegoat child.

Should I spell it which one is which, in your case? I think it is crystal clear. You cannot even contain the disdain you feel for your Aries daughter. OMG, she took the Libra for drinks! What a fucking crime that was!

She didn't "TOOK" her. She asked her out, to have a good time. Unless Libra is a known alcoholic, anyone would have done this. A favour!

And here you come...look at your title! Playing the victim, and pretending that the Aries is your evil tormentor! I really hope the Aries places charges, so your real badseed daughter, the Libra, gets to learn to take responsibility for HER OWN actions!

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Where is your kids' dad through all this?

He hasn't been present since they were toddlers. He's toxic and horribly abusive. click to expand

That is tough

What about family.....brothers, sisters, parents...would they help you out with this

Your girl is in prison....you need to be there for her click to expand

I was just informed that she was escorted off the property and held overnight for protective custody. She'll only catch charges if her sister presses charges. click to expand

Thank god your kids aren’t black and are still alive after interacting with police. Js. click to expand

Lmao.

Not every black person that encounters the police, die.

What’s the % on that statistic? .2% ? click to expand

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You’re the one who is trolling with your race comments. Race has zero to do with this click to expand

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Keep your head stuck in the sand. What do I care 🤷‍♀️

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I think you have NPD, because you "reason" like this:

1) My fav child has done something to my scapegoat child.

2) I kind of know that what she did was horrible and she should take responsibility.

3) However, since she is my fav child, she is above all that!

4) Let's blame the scapegoat child for what the other one did, as usual.

5) In fact, let's say my scapegoat child has planned this to torment me!

The real victim here is the Aries. If you still don't see it, most likely you have NPD.

Aries probably got hit while trying to limit her drinking. I hope she presses charges, because someone needs to.

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Your eldest is a disorderly, aggressive drunk, who takes police time from more important duties, and you come here complaining about your youngest....? Because your youngest DARED to point out to your motherly duties?

WTF?! Are you a bloody narcissist who came here to play the victim, and not even realize how unjust your actions are....?

Yes, it IS your f-king responsibility! People like your eldest need someone who is in charge, because they lost it! She should not be allowed to drink, let alone go out for drinks! You need to talk, threaten, slap, coerce, control her and everyone WHO TAKES HER FOR DRINKS. Put your alcohol-crazed eldest daughter in the rehab, before she kills someone, herself included!

Never in my life have I ever been accused of being a narcissist. It's almost laughable how quickly you can jump on to one of my threads to state that. My actions are unjust?? I'm super curious as to how? You don't know me from your neighbor down the road, ma'am! So, you must be one of those "helicopter parents" who are perfect in all they do. You must have some adult children who have never left the nest, because you have to control the aspects of their lives...And by the way...her SISTER took her out for drinks. She drinks once or twice a month... Check yourself. click to expand

Yes, NPDs have a fav child (the one that sucks up to them) and a scapegoat child.

Should I spell it which one is which, in your case? I think it is crystal clear. You cannot even contain the disdain you feel for your Aries daughter. OMG, she took the Libra for drinks! What a fucking crime that was!

She didn't "TOOK" her. She asked her out, to have a good time. Unless Libra is a known alcoholic, anyone would have done this. A favour!

And here you come...look at your title! Playing the victim, and pretending that the Aries is your evil tormentor! I really hope the Aries places charges, so your real badseed daughter, the Libra, gets to learn to take responsibility for HER OWN actions!

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Haha, you just contradicted yourself!! Your first post you say "She should not be allowed to drink, let alone go out for drinks! You need to talk, threaten, slap, coerce, control her and everyone WHO TAKES HER FOR DRINKS. " then you have the nerve to turn around and back-pedal, After finding out it was my other daughter,

saying "You cannot even contain the disdain you feel for your Aries daughter. OMG, she took the Libra for drinks! What a fucking crime that was!"

None of my kids are bad seeds, and i talk to both of them every single day!! I do not favor anyone. It sounds to me like you have your own Libra issues. Now maybe its time to take care of your own issues, rather than try to stir up hatred. BYE!!!

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Your eldest is a disorderly, aggressive drunk, who takes police time from more important duties, and you come here complaining about your youngest....? Because your youngest DARED to point out to your motherly duties?

WTF?! Are you a bloody narcissist who came here to play the victim, and not even realize how unjust your actions are....?

Yes, it IS your f-king responsibility! People like your eldest need someone who is in charge, because they lost it! She should not be allowed to drink, let alone go out for drinks! You need to talk, threaten, slap, coerce, control her and everyone WHO TAKES HER FOR DRINKS. Put your alcohol-crazed eldest daughter in the rehab, before she kills someone, herself included!

Never in my life have I ever been accused of being a narcissist. It's almost laughable how quickly you can jump on to one of my threads to state that. My actions are unjust?? I'm super curious as to how? You don't know me from your neighbor down the road, ma'am! So, you must be one of those "helicopter parents" who are perfect in all they do. You must have some adult children who have never left the nest, because you have to control the aspects of their lives...And by the way...her SISTER took her out for drinks. She drinks once or twice a month... Check yourself. click to expand

Yes, NPDs have a fav child (the one that sucks up to them) and a scapegoat child.

Should I spell it which one is which, in your case? I think it is crystal clear. You cannot even contain the disdain you feel for your Aries daughter. OMG, she took the Libra for drinks! What a treetrunking crime that was!

She didn't "TOOK" her. She asked her out, to have a good time. Unless Libra is a known alcoholic, anyone would have done this. A favour!

And here you come...look at your title! Playing the victim, and pretending that the Aries is your evil tormentor! I really hope the Aries places charges, so your real badseed daughter, the Libra, gets to learn to take responsibility for HER OWN actions!

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Haha, you just contradicted yourself!! Your first post you say "She should not be allowed to drink, let alone go out for drinks! You need to talk, threaten, slap, coerce, control her and everyone WHO TAKES HER FOR DRINKS. " then you have the nerve to turn around and back-pedal, After finding out it was my other daughter,
saying "You cannot even contain the disdain you feel for your Aries daughter. OMG, she took the Libra for drinks! What a treetrunking crime that was!"
None of my kids are bad seeds, and i talk to both of them every single day!! I do not favor anyone. It sounds to me like you have your own Libra issues. Now maybe its time to take care of your own issues, rather than try to stir up hatred. BYE!!! click to expand

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Stop trying to manipulate it, like a true NPD.

It is YOUR job! You are her mother!

If Libra is the fav child of a mother with NPD, the only person she will listen to is NOT her scapegoat sister, but her NPD mother!

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I do realize I put myself out on the chopping block for this. Yes, there is a lot more depth to this situation than any of you would ever know. But I've always been there for my children. They are my life. You cannot force someone to get help. I've tried for years, and she shuts down. My girls love each other very much, hence why they were hanging out in the first place. I have dropped everything to take a 14 hour drive to track my aries down when she ended up in a very scary situation. Ive done much for both but I'm only human and can only do so much. Do NOT come here thinking im doing lazy parenting. I do everything that is within my means!!

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And stop playing dump either! I can see through you!

I know that you see your Libra as an extension of yourself, and therefore above the law and everything else.

What I recommend is to apologize to the Aries. Be fair to her! This is the only way you can keep your daughter. The one that is sober and doesn't behave like an animal without impulse control.

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Man this thread is interesting. Yes the daughter needs support, but it is not always that easy people. Kids just like adults do need to find their own way, and some respond well from getting booted, and others not so much. Supporting too much can be a problem too, than they rely on you too much. You must find a balance and every child is different.

Slamming her cuz she’s not running to the rescue? Well who are we to say that’s the best way to handle it. Maybe yes. Maybe no.

To OP - ahhh I know it’s tough. You have every right to feel sad about mother’s day. Your Aries is probably just frustrated and wanting things to get better. I’m sure she isn’t trying to make you feel bad. As mothers, we can’t always fix things. Support and guidance though is needed. Somehow? I guess what is going on with the Libra is the question. Will she go to counseling or is she an alcoholic? It’s tough because at 22 she is an adult & you can’t make her do anything, but you can encourage.

Hugs & ❤️ To you. Oh btw I have a 17 yr old & a 22 yr old and the 22 year old struggles & the 17 year old tells me all the time to fix things.. it’s not that easy. Hang in there!!

Well, when you have one of YOUR kids physically abusing another one of YOUR kids......you’re kinda obligated to step in and get involved.

This is unless you just don’t give a rats ass about your own kids and how they treat society.......which is 90% of what happens these days. click to expand

Getting involved & fixing it are two different things. And everyone handles getting involved differently. I’m sure it’s a whole lot more complicated than we are seeing here on this thread. click to expand

Of course it is.

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Posted by TaurusMom41
I do realize I put myself out on the chopping block for this. Yes, there is a lot more depth to this situation than any of you would ever know. But I've always been there for my children. They are my life. You cannot force someone to get help. I've tried for years, and she shuts down. My girls love each other very much, hence why they were hanging out in the first place. I have dropped everything to take a 14 hour drive to track my aries down when she ended up in a very scary situation. Ive done much for both but I'm only human and can only do so much. Do NOT come here thinking im doing lazy parenting. I do everything that is within my means!!

If you truly are a good mum, good for you. We can only see how you present yourself to us. And it's not good.

Remember to be fair. Respect and fairness are important. Despite growing up as a scapegoat child, I am in good terms with my mother. She did not give up on me when I gave up on her, but learned the lesson. She could not change the way she was, but put a huge effort in improving the way she treated others.

Today it's her birthday!

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Honestly, I was with you on the whole kids should learn from their own mistakes angle.

Until I got to the last page, see it is 5 hours later and you're in an internet debate about parenting and NPD. Like cmon. If I am the kid I would be pissed after getting myself out of jail because my parents were too busy DXPing.

Yes !!

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Posted by HearttofTopaz
I think you should swallow your pride and borrow money. Pay for a bus ticket.. either you go to them, or have them come to you. Sure, people have to learn from their mistakes, but they are still young and it's obvious they are crying out for attention.

If this doesn't get your attention, then what will? It's better you tried to do something, rather than nothing at all. You would never forgive yourself if something happened to them.

Yes, yes, yes sister!!

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Whether you go to them or not...

I think a phone call from their mother who reminds them she loves them wouldn’t hurt. Sometimes you need some help to pick yourself up after something traumatic. More so if it was because of your fuck up.

Like yes you fucked up and I’m disappointed in your actions. But I love you unconditionally and that’s not gonna change.

Signed, mom

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So your Libra is causing trouble, but your Aries is ''wounding'' your heart for telling you to be a mother to your problematic Libra daughter? Your anger is directed at the Aries because for some reason you cant confront the Libra

Sometimes if someone makes a comment thats not necessarily complimentary to your character, they make the comment because they know what you NEED to hear. Its important to have people in your life who will tell you when youre slacking
Discernment is knowing what peoples intentions are, once you know that, you can check your unnecessary sensitivity and let people aka your Aries daughter look out for you/your family

My question, how am I slacking?? Whenever I did wrong, at a young age, I was to deal with the consequences. My Mom, or grandparents weren't blamed or told they needed to fix Me. I learned my lessons the hard way, but I learned.
My Aries did wound me, and I'm not overly sensitive to the situation, I'm appropriately sensitive. My entire family lives in the same state as each other, and me and my son are the only ones left here. I have "Been a Mother" to all my children and that's why this whole thing hurts me.
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You say you HAVE BEEN a mother to them, but you still need to be a mother to them until the day you die. It is what it is. You brought them into this world, youre responsible for them. Nobody forced you to treetrunk raw. They didnt ask for none of this. Youre being self absorbed and weak if you dismiss them. Not to be mean but I feel bad and sorry for your children if you only want to deal with them during good times ''mothersday'' but refuse to deal with them when theyre in trouble and truly need you as their mother

And did you really go into labor for hours, nearly dying to birth them just for them to be out here being problematic? 😣 click to expand

ok calm down there parent police. Do you even have kids?

I don't but I sure do understand that parents are human beings too. They're not some superman/superwoman that kids make them out to be. And just because you decided to have kids and have raised them doesn't mean your infinitely responsible for every single action they take. I know great parents who end up with horrible kids for one reason or another. You're way too extreme in your approach to parenting.

parenting is doing your best with what you have, not that you can be solely responsible for every single action your child takes. That's just unrealistic and in fact damaging to relationships.

I do agree with you that parenting never ends but at the same time parents don't need to ebat themselves up for their children's mistakes. Try to make to make it better? Yes. But to think it all falls on your shoulders? Hell no.

To tell somebody oh just because you decided to fuck raw now it means you're forever responsible for this person is plain ignorant and frankly rude. How are you going to shame this woman into dealing with an issue? That's not a place of empowering. Strong women empower, not shame. So you're the one actually being weak with your post.
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You don’t have kids but you’re giving out expert parenting advice? Just Lol click to expand

You dont need kids to think outside the box.
You could have a kid you're taking care of and know exactly what it feels like. Smfh click to expand

Lmao. If you don’t have kids of your own, you don’t even know what the box is click to expand

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Lol if You never helped take care of a kid or watched over 4 young children who are troublesome, you're just a lost cause.

Ironically speaking, you really dont. Keep trolling.

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Posted by TaurusMom41
I have an Aries daughter, and a Libra daughter and am currently, completely crushed. I got several calls late last night, and found that my 2 daughters (who live 1600 miles away from me) had gone out together drinking, but the night ended in my oldest (Libra) getting drunk and attacking her sister. The cops were called by the neighbors and my oldest was taken to jail. This isn't her first time doing this... The same thing happened with me, a few years back. Except I was sober and trying to stop her from attacking her boyfriend. She swung on me, I dropped her, then she took another swing at me in front of the police. She is the sweetest girl, until you add alcohol. Anyhow, back to my aries.. I got a call from her, after all the drama and she was telling me I needed to do something about her sister, to which I replied "She's 22 and you guys are way the hell in ND, what the hell am I supposed to do about it?" My Aries girl will always, and has always drained me with her busy energy and she is very good at wounding me. Here it is, Mother's day weekend, and not only will I be alone, I'm now to blame for "Not taking responsibility" for my grown ass daughters. I'm absolutely crushed. I don't even want to talk to her, at this point.

Let me get this straight, your Libra child attacks your younger child and goes to jail, your Aries child obviously calls her PARENT to do some PARENTING on her sister by way of authority cuz the Libra will not listen to a younger sibling so the Aries's only mature way for this is to approach you to deal with it...

....yet your topic reads your ARIES child hurts you deeply? And you won't even talk to her so it's basically her responsibility as a sibling to deal with the Libra and not yours as a parent?

You are unbelievable, lady. I hope the moment the Aries affords to be by herself she cuts all ties with both of you.

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Not what you want to hear mama, but in this case the Aries daughter is right.

Although she's not your sole responsibility, she's not exactly grown either or mature for that matter under the influence.

You know you've got a problem when the cops need to keep coming out. Consider bringing the eldest closer to home until she can level out.

I don’t know but In our family we will do
Anything even intervene in their lives if we see them spiraling out of control.
Over age under age don’t make a difference
If that means flying to them for an ass whipping lol or going to have n seriously talk to her wtf is going on. But I’d be in That plane click to expand

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Italian? Lol

Same here.

And if she doesn’t want to move back - we would move closer to her!

I don’t care how old!

Parenting is so different - no one can tell what’s right what’s wrong!

This mother think ‘grown up ass chikdren’ should take care of themselves.

In my culture - I’ll hold hand until she will give me the last kiss...THEN she will become grown up ass child!

After me gone!!!

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I don't have kids to judge, but I used to have a brother and if he needed me and he was 3 hours away, i dropped everything and drove 3 hours to get him and bring him home.
So it sounds like the Aries has taken the parent role to your Libra and isn't coping with with it. She's asking for adult help because she's not mentally mature enough to handle the responsibility or she's exhausted and needs help. So you need to go help her. This is going to sound harsh, but it's mothers day, quit the excuses and go be a mum. When your girls are in trouble, you get off the stupid internet and help them.

You mean log off of Internet? 😱

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I don't have kids to judge, but I used to have a brother and if he needed me and he was 3 hours away, i dropped everything and drove 3 hours to get him and bring him home.
So it sounds like the Aries has taken the parent role to your Libra and isn't coping with with it. She's asking for adult help because she's not mentally mature enough to handle the responsibility or she's exhausted and needs help. So you need to go help her. This is going to sound harsh, but it's mothers day, quit the excuses and go be a mum. When your girls are in trouble, you get off the stupid internet and help them.

You mean log off of Internet? 😱 click to expand

Only in emergencies. click to expand

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Fight in a bar 1600 miles away is not an emergency! There is police for THAT! Right?

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I don't have kids to judge, but I used to have a brother and if he needed me and he was 3 hours away, i dropped everything and drove 3 hours to get him and bring him home.
So it sounds like the Aries has taken the parent role to your Libra and isn't coping with with it. She's asking for adult help because she's not mentally mature enough to handle the responsibility or she's exhausted and needs help. So you need to go help her. This is going to sound harsh, but it's mothers day, quit the excuses and go be a mum. When your girls are in trouble, you get off the stupid internet and help them.

You mean log off of Internet? 😱 click to expand

Only in emergencies. click to expand

Fight in a bar 1600 miles away is not an emergency! There is police for THAT! Right? click to expand

Everyone is different, but to me that's an emergency. Anything where the safety or mental and physical well-being of someone you love is involved, is an emergency. But I'm a 4th house Leo so I'm probably too over protective of my family 🤷 click to expand

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Of course! I’ve been VERY sarcastic!

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Man this thread is interesting. Yes the daughter needs support, but it is not always that easy people. Kids just like adults do need to find their own way, and some respond well from getting booted, and others not so much. Supporting too much can be a problem too, than they rely on you too much. You must find a balance and every child is different.

Slamming her cuz she’s not running to the rescue? Well who are we to say that’s the best way to handle it. Maybe yes. Maybe no.

To OP - ahhh I know it’s tough. You have every right to feel sad about mother’s day. Your Aries is probably just frustrated and wanting things to get better. I’m sure she isn’t trying to make you feel bad. As mothers, we can’t always fix things. Support and guidance though is needed. Somehow? I guess what is going on with the Libra is the question. Will she go to counseling or is she an alcoholic? It’s tough because at 22 she is an adult & you can’t make her do anything, but you can encourage.

Hugs & ❤️ To you. Oh btw I have a 17 yr old & a 22 yr old and the 22 year old struggles & the 17 year old tells me all the time to fix things.. it’s not that easy. Hang in there!!

Well, when you have one of YOUR kids physically abusing another one of YOUR kids......you’re kinda obligated to step in and get involved.

This is unless you just don’t give a rats ass about your own kids and how they treat society.......which is 90% of what happens these days. click to expand

Getting involved & fixing it are two different things. And everyone handles getting involved differently. I’m sure it’s a whole lot more complicated than we are seeing here on this thread. click to expand

Of course it is.

No action on the part of the mother is gonna cause damage to BOTH children click to expand

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Not all parents created equal!

Me wondering why would kids move away 1600 miles on a first place!

Both! Who doesn’t even seem being so close to each other...

It’s a bigger issue than Dxp can handle! Don’t you think so?

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I don't have kids to judge, but I used to have a brother and if he needed me and he was 3 hours away, i dropped everything and drove 3 hours to get him and bring him home.
So it sounds like the Aries has taken the parent role to your Libra and isn't coping with with it. She's asking for adult help because she's not mentally mature enough to handle the responsibility or she's exhausted and needs help. So you need to go help her. This is going to sound harsh, but it's mothers day, quit the excuses and go be a mum. When your girls are in trouble, you get off the stupid internet and help them.

You mean log off of Internet? 😱 click to expand

Only in emergencies. click to expand

Fight in a bar 1600 miles away is not an emergency! There is police for THAT! Right? click to expand

Everyone is different, but to me that's an emergency. Anything where the safety or mental and physical well-being of someone you love is involved, is an emergency. But I'm a 4th house Leo so I'm probably too over protective of my family 🤷 click to expand

Of course! I’ve been VERY sarcastic! click to expand

Yeah i think you would have hung up on your daughter and jumped in a plane. Lol. I remember you got mad because your husband didn't put the food in the oven for when she got home 😂 click to expand

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Lmao! I forgot! You remembered? Lmao! Yesssss! And I was about to hire hit man for a druggie she fell for! Lol

I don’t take parenting lightly. Lmao

Up until now if she says she comes home overnight - whole house gets turned upside down! And she comes at least once a week! Lol

But easing her I was strict! Anything she wanted she had - but not even tiny disrespect was tolerated!

Honestly...I didn’t know she had 5 Scorpio placements in her chart! 🤣🤣🤣

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Man this thread is interesting. Yes the daughter needs support, but it is not always that easy people. Kids just like adults do need to find their own way, and some respond well from getting booted, and others not so much. Supporting too much can be a problem too, than they rely on you too much. You must find a balance and every child is different.

Slamming her cuz she’s not running to the rescue? Well who are we to say that’s the best way to handle it. Maybe yes. Maybe no.

To OP - ahhh I know it’s tough. You have every right to feel sad about mother’s day. Your Aries is probably just frustrated and wanting things to get better. I’m sure she isn’t trying to make you feel bad. As mothers, we can’t always fix things. Support and guidance though is needed. Somehow? I guess what is going on with the Libra is the question. Will she go to counseling or is she an alcoholic? It’s tough because at 22 she is an adult & you can’t make her do anything, but you can encourage.

Hugs & ❤️ To you. Oh btw I have a 17 yr old & a 22 yr old and the 22 year old struggles & the 17 year old tells me all the time to fix things.. it’s not that easy. Hang in there!!

Well, when you have one of YOUR kids physically abusing another one of YOUR kids......you’re kinda obligated to step in and get involved.

This is unless you just don’t give a rats ass about your own kids and how they treat society.......which is 90% of what happens these days. click to expand

Getting involved & fixing it are two different things. And everyone handles getting involved differently. I’m sure it’s a whole lot more complicated than we are seeing here on this thread. click to expand

Of course it is.

No action on the part of the mother is gonna cause damage to BOTH children click to expand

But is she really taking no action whatsoever? click to expand

Not all parents created equal!
Me wondering why would kids move away 1600 miles on a first place!
Both! Who doesn’t even seem being so close to each other...
It’s a bigger issue than Dxp can handle! Don’t you think so? click to expand

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Maybe you should go back and actually read the thread. Don't just jump to the end. My daughter's are very close and my whole family lives there except for me, my sister and my son.

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Posted by TaurusMom41

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Posted by RooSagicorn

Posted by Superman77

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Posted by Superman77

Posted by RooSagicorn
Man this thread is interesting. Yes the daughter needs support, but it is not always that easy people. Kids just like adults do need to find their own way, and some respond well from getting booted, and others not so much. Supporting too much can be a problem too, than they rely on you too much. You must find a balance and every child is different.

Slamming her cuz she’s not running to the rescue? Well who are we to say that’s the best way to handle it. Maybe yes. Maybe no.

To OP - ahhh I know it’s tough. You have every right to feel sad about mother’s day. Your Aries is probably just frustrated and wanting things to get better. I’m sure she isn’t trying to make you feel bad. As mothers, we can’t always fix things. Support and guidance though is needed. Somehow? I guess what is going on with the Libra is the question. Will she go to counseling or is she an alcoholic? It’s tough because at 22 she is an adult & you can’t make her do anything, but you can encourage.

Hugs & ❤️ To you. Oh btw I have a 17 yr old & a 22 yr old and the 22 year old struggles & the 17 year old tells me all the time to fix things.. it’s not that easy. Hang in there!!

Well, when you have one of YOUR kids physically abusing another one of YOUR kids......you’re kinda obligated to step in and get involved.

This is unless you just don’t give a rats ass about your own kids and how they treat society.......which is 90% of what happens these days. click to expand

Getting involved & fixing it are two different things. And everyone handles getting involved differently. I’m sure it’s a whole lot more complicated than we are seeing here on this thread. click to expand

Of course it is.

No action on the part of the mother is gonna cause damage to BOTH children click to expand

But is she really taking no action whatsoever? click to expand

Not all parents created equal!
Me wondering why would kids move away 1600 miles on a first place!
Both! Who doesn’t even seem being so close to each other...
It’s a bigger issue than Dxp can handle! Don’t you think so? click to expand

Maybe you should go back and actually read the thread. Don't just jump to the end. My daughter's are very close and my whole family lives there except for me, my sister and my son. click to expand

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So...how does it changing anything you posted? What were you looking for by making your post? You’ve lost me here...

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BTW your avatar...smh

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Trashy! click to expand

Coming from the married chick who lets randos nut in her. Are you really trying to sell yourself as the moral judge when it comes to trashy? You trippin. click to expand

Coming from a chick who’s mom banging underage... click to expand

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Damn where did I judge someone on their profile pic?? Nah girl that’s all you. Own your shittt

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So your Libra is causing trouble, but your Aries is ''wounding'' your heart for telling you to be a mother to your problematic Libra daughter? Your anger is directed at the Aries because for some reason you cant confront the Libra

Sometimes if someone makes a comment thats not necessarily complimentary to your character, they make the comment because they know what you NEED to hear. Its important to have people in your life who will tell you when youre slacking
Discernment is knowing what peoples intentions are, once you know that, you can check your unnecessary sensitivity and let people aka your Aries daughter look out for you/your family

My question, how am I slacking?? Whenever I did wrong, at a young age, I was to deal with the consequences. My Mom, or grandparents weren't blamed or told they needed to fix Me. I learned my lessons the hard way, but I learned.
My Aries did wound me, and I'm not overly sensitive to the situation, I'm appropriately sensitive. My entire family lives in the same state as each other, and me and my son are the only ones left here. I have "Been a Mother" to all my children and that's why this whole thing hurts me.
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You say you HAVE BEEN a mother to them, but you still need to be a mother to them until the day you die. It is what it is. You brought them into this world, youre responsible for them. Nobody forced you to treetrunk raw. They didnt ask for none of this. Youre being self absorbed and weak if you dismiss them. Not to be mean but I feel bad and sorry for your children if you only want to deal with them during good times ''mothersday'' but refuse to deal with them when theyre in trouble and truly need you as their mother

And did you really go into labor for hours, nearly dying to birth them just for them to be out here being problematic? 😣 click to expand

ok calm down there parent police. Do you even have kids?

I don't but I sure do understand that parents are human beings too. They're not some superman/superwoman that kids make them out to be. And just because you decided to have kids and have raised them doesn't mean your infinitely responsible for every single action they take. I know great parents who end up with horrible kids for one reason or another. You're way too extreme in your approach to parenting.

parenting is doing your best with what you have, not that you can be solely responsible for every single action your child takes. That's just unrealistic and in fact damaging to relationships.

I do agree with you that parenting never ends but at the same time parents don't need to ebat themselves up for their children's mistakes. Try to make to make it better? Yes. But to think it all falls on your shoulders? Hell no.

To tell somebody oh just because you decided to fuck raw now it means you're forever responsible for this person is plain ignorant and frankly rude. How are you going to shame this woman into dealing with an issue? That's not a place of empowering. Strong women empower, not shame. So you're the one actually being weak with your post.
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You don’t have kids but you’re giving out expert parenting advice? Just Lol click to expand

You dont need kids to think outside the box.
You could have a kid you're taking care of and know exactly what it feels like. Smfh click to expand

Lmao. If you don’t have kids of your own, you don’t even know what the box is click to expand

Lol if You never helped take care of a kid or watched over 4 young children who are troublesome, you're just a lost cause.

Ironically speaking, you really dont. Keep trolling. click to expand

Do you have kids?

I have 2 of my own and a step son with special needs click to expand

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I dont have kids. And like I said if you're taking care of one you'll understand. I been taking care of my little brother since he was an infant since he was given birth and supporting him. Tell me the difference between that.

Which means working even thou I shouldn't be the one responsible since I am not the mother.

Anything else to add?

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Posted by DeleterNerd
Idk how many of you grew up the youngest with several older siblings, but the aries should know better than to snitch especially with a taurus parent. Naw son, thats the end of your life right there. No wonder she gets beat by the libra. She sounds like the type who creates their own problems.

The Aries didn't snitch. She's now faced with the decision on whether or not to press charges against her sister, cue calling mother to discuss if the problem can be fixed so that she doesn't have to press charges. I suspect this isn't the first time her sister has attacked her.

OP, if you feel the Aries is being troublesome, then leave her to deal with the Libra on her own. Just hope and pray that it doesn't end with either of them killing one another one day.

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Posted by DeleterNerd

Posted by Ram416

Posted by DeleterNerd
Idk how many of you grew up the youngest with several older siblings, but the aries should know better than to snitch especially with a taurus parent. Naw son, thats the end of your life right there. No wonder she gets beat by the libra. She sounds like the type who creates their own problems.

The Aries didn't snitch. She's now faced with the decision on whether or not to press charges against her sister, cue calling mother to discuss if the problem can be fixed so that she doesn't have to press charges. I suspect this isn't the first time her sister has attacked her.

OP, if you feel the Aries is being troublesome, then leave her to deal with the Libra on her own. Just hope and pray that it doesn't end with either of them killing one another one day. click to expand

Who calls the police on their sibling? An instigator. Thats who. click to expand

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The cops were called by the neighbors and my oldest was taken to jail.

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Posted by Ram416

Posted by DeleterNerd
Idk how many of you grew up the youngest with several older siblings, but the aries should know better than to snitch especially with a taurus parent. Naw son, thats the end of your life right there. No wonder she gets beat by the libra. She sounds like the type who creates their own problems.

The Aries didn't snitch. She's now faced with the decision on whether or not to press charges against her sister, cue calling mother to discuss if the problem can be fixed so that she doesn't have to press charges. I suspect this isn't the first time her sister has attacked her.

OP, if you feel the Aries is being troublesome, then leave her to deal with the Libra on her own. Just hope and pray that it doesn't end with either of them killing one another one day. click to expand

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This is their first altercation. I finally got to talk to my Aries after she calmed down and sobered up. I attempted to talk to my Libra, but when anything happens she shuts down.

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Posted by TaurusMom41

Posted by Ram416

Posted by DeleterNerd
Idk how many of you grew up the youngest with several older siblings, but the aries should know better than to snitch especially with a taurus parent. Naw son, thats the end of your life right there. No wonder she gets beat by the libra. She sounds like the type who creates their own problems.

The Aries didn't snitch. She's now faced with the decision on whether or not to press charges against her sister, cue calling mother to discuss if the problem can be fixed so that she doesn't have to press charges. I suspect this isn't the first time her sister has attacked her.

OP, if you feel the Aries is being troublesome, then leave her to deal with the Libra on her own. Just hope and pray that it doesn't end with either of them killing one another one day. click to expand

This is their first altercation. I finally got to talk to my Aries after she calmed down and sobered up. I attempted to talk to my Libra, but when anything happens she shuts down. click to expand

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Is it possible the Aries hasn't told you if there were any previous altercations?

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Posted by Ram416

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Posted by Ram416

Posted by DeleterNerd
Idk how many of you grew up the youngest with several older siblings, but the aries should know better than to snitch especially with a taurus parent. Naw son, thats the end of your life right there. No wonder she gets beat by the libra. She sounds like the type who creates their own problems.

The Aries didn't snitch. She's now faced with the decision on whether or not to press charges against her sister, cue calling mother to discuss if the problem can be fixed so that she doesn't have to press charges. I suspect this isn't the first time her sister has attacked her.

OP, if you feel the Aries is being troublesome, then leave her to deal with the Libra on her own. Just hope and pray that it doesn't end with either of them killing one another one day. click to expand

This is their first altercation. I finally got to talk to my Aries after she calmed down and sobered up. I attempted to talk to my Libra, but when anything happens she shuts down. click to expand

Is it possible the Aries hasn't told you if there were any previous altercations? click to expand

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No way, my Aries couldn't keep a secret no matter what.

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8 Years

Posted by MyStarsShine
How are things @TaurusMom41

Did you speak to your girl?

Good morning and Happy Mother's Day. Yes, I did. When I posted this topic yesterday, I was heartbroken about them fighting, first of all and my Aries being angry at me. I have since spoken to both girls and although things aren't smoothed out 100% , they are better than they were yesterday. I think people got the wrong impression of me, but I have been there for all 3 of my kids as much as humanly possible. I love them all.

Yeah, I was being selfish by being wounded, but I was also being very human. Thanks for checking in.

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Lol you came here to slander Aries. I can tell by how you write you have a bias against the sign. So much so that you can’t hear the truth from your Aries daughter. I can see why your Libra behaves the way she does. You’re focused on the wrong things.

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Posted by bkbella86
Lol you came here to slander Aries. I can tell by how you write you have a bias against the sign. So much so that you can’t hear the truth from your Aries daughter. I can see why your Libra behaves the way she does. You’re focused on the wrong things.

Again, no I love my Aries. She is actually my "mini-me". I didn't slander anyone, I was just being an emotional mess yesterday. Nobody knows my relationship with my kids, so judge if you want... I'm not stopping you.

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Posted by TaurusMom41

Posted by MyStarsShine
How are things @TaurusMom41

Did you speak to your girl?

Good morning and Happy Mother's Day. Yes, I did. When I posted this topic yesterday, I was heartbroken about them fighting, first of all and my Aries being angry at me. I have since spoken to both girls and although things aren't smoothed out 100% , they are better than they were yesterday. I think people got the wrong impression of me, but I have been there for all 3 of my kids as much as humanly possible. I love them all.
Yeah, I was being selfish by being wounded, but I was also being very human. Thanks for checking in. click to expand

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You are welcome...

I'm glad you were able to speak to her ❤️

We had Mother's Day here in March but wish you a peaceful one, if possible

Yes human of course....it's bloody tough being a mother but if we do the right thing, that's all that matters. People think labour lasts a few hours, but I believe it lasts forever.....huge labour of love with much pain as well as more joy. 💕

Enjoy the day

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Posted by TaurusMom41
I do realize I put myself out on the chopping block for this. Yes, there is a lot more depth to this situation than any of you would ever know. But I've always been there for my children. They are my life. You cannot force someone to get help. I've tried for years, and she shuts down. My girls love each other very much, hence why they were hanging out in the first place. I have dropped everything to take a 14 hour drive to track my aries down when she ended up in a very scary situation. Ive done much for both but I'm only human and can only do so much. Do NOT come here thinking im doing lazy parenting. I do everything that is within my means!!

You came here to get support in dragging Aries. Including your daughter. Very strange. If it were truly a story just about your daughters you could have told the same story without mentioning their signs. I see you.

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Posted by TaurusMom41

Posted by bkbella86
Lol you came here to slander Aries. I can tell by how you write you have a bias against the sign. So much so that you can’t hear the truth from your Aries daughter. I can see why your Libra behaves the way she does. You’re focused on the wrong things.

Again, no I love my Aries. She is actually my "mini-me". I didn't slander anyone, I was just being an emotional mess yesterday. Nobody knows my relationship with my kids, so judge if you want... I'm not stopping you. click to expand

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So why is this in the Aries forum and why is Aries In the headline? What’s the purpose of mentioning the sign?

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I do realize I put myself out on the chopping block for this. Yes, there is a lot more depth to this situation than any of you would ever know. But I've always been there for my children. They are my life. You cannot force someone to get help. I've tried for years, and she shuts down. My girls love each other very much, hence why they were hanging out in the first place. I have dropped everything to take a 14 hour drive to track my aries down when she ended up in a very scary situation. Ive done much for both but I'm only human and can only do so much. Do NOT come here thinking im doing lazy parenting. I do everything that is within my means!!

You came here to get support in dragging Aries. Including your daughter. Very strange. If it were truly a story just about your daughters you could have told the same story without mentioning their signs. I see you. click to expand

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Actually, I know exactly what you're saying. I brought in the signs because there is no family problem forum. It was either go to Aries forum or to Libra forum. So no....