Aries - need help w/Pisces...please

Ok, this is my first post. I've been dabbling in astrology for years and feel that I'm somewhat competent in discussing/understanding it. After lurking awhile, I think many members of this forum are way ahead of me - so I really need to ask for some advice/clarification/understanding. Here's my story:

I met this Pisces woman who is 26 (I'm 32) who is absolutely, stunningly beautiful. The mystique around her and just overall beauty had my aries mind locked in.

Like most, we both put our best foot forward during the initial stage of getting to know each other. Being the guy (aries) that I am, I let alot out as I'm 32 and certainly have a past. To me, if I'm genuinely interested in someone, I want them to know everything about me so that they can better define who they're with. If I don't care about them, I could care less what they know about me. She, on the other hand, kept her image clean and had me locked. After a couple of weeks, our comfort level was really good and she said some things about her past that contradicted what she had said and how she carried herself before. That 'storybook couple' mindset I had went south. I had quit talking to two friends (who were ex's, but nonetheless just friends) and was ready to take my pisces the whole 9-yards. After my 'image' diminished, I started talking to my friends again, not trusting any image or perception she put out there for me. Afterwards, yes, I did cross some lines by having some 'heated' discussion (no physical actions) w/my friends - which she found out about and her trust for me did not get any better. Oh, I did not tell her about one of the friends in the beginning - the only thing I witheld.

Please, using a typical aries and pisces mindset - would this have worked out? It's like we process everything sooo differently. I tend to 'shoot from the hip', socialize, flirt on occasion, and just like my freedom (although I will give all of myself if I feel the story is right). She, from what I perceive, processes everything. Every move and word is precise and calculated. She apparently defines my own actions and words better than I do. I like to cut loose and be free - can or does pisces do that? Can they understand an aries approach to relationships and/or life in general? Think maybe it's the age difference? I'm just asking for assistance because I would like to better understand what happened and possibly talk to her about it.

Feedback will be appreciated!

I don't get it...Is this pre spring mating season for all Aries?🙂

I guess after the deep cold winter which severely diminishes any Aries fiery nature, they need a full power heat up routine to get back in their wheels again.

Well, I had been out of commission for about 3yrs - until Oct 2006. While it's prespring, which gets us aries moving, guess I have some catching up to do too.

"Can they understand an aries approach to relationships and/or life in general?"

From my personal experience, I cannot say yes to 100% . However I can explain part of it. No matter what I will explain, it makes no sense why Aries do these things before getting their feet put on the ground.

"Well, I had been out of commission for about 3yrs - until Oct 2006. While it's prespring, which gets us aries moving, guess I have some catching up to do too."

Well honestly speaking, you don't sound like an Aries 🙂 Is there any problem you don't tell us? 🙂

Don't tell me it was job stuff. Aries are pretty good at taking horny wife of the boss to a hotel and promise 6'' and 3 times while ending up with 3'' and 6 times.

Well, haffo...to answer your first question: I lived with a girl (aqua) for 3 yrs and we mutually separated - still friends.

Secondly, not job stuff.

So you're saying that Aries and Pisces never see eye-to-eye? Can an aries make a pisces happy, for the long term, and still maintain (w/in reason) the aries mindset?

"So you're saying that Aries and Pisces never see eye-to-eye? Can an aries make a pisces happy, for the long term, and still maintain (w/in reason) the aries mindset?"

Hi Rage151....

I am not sure that any of us in a relationship totally see eye to eye on everything - this to me is the purpose of why we are engaged in a relationship - to learn about the other person and to learn about compromising. Sometimes we may want to go the distance with that certain person and maybe we don't. I do believe that Aries and Pisces do think very differently....at least from my experiences with a male Pisces and a female Pisces (I am also an Aries - female). So, it comes down to.....accepting the other person for who she/he is.

Rage you ask....."Can an aries make a pisces happy, for the long term, and still maintain (w/in reason) the aries mindset?" Honestly, no one can make another person happy. Happiness comes from within each person. A relationship that is dependent upon one person needing to make the other happy or one where one person expects for the other to make and keep him happy will fail. However, if both persons come into the relationship both being happy with who they are, more than likely this relationship will have a much better chance to succeed.

Just be the Aries man that you are and the right person will enter into your life when the time is right 😉

Best Wishes and welcome!

" So you're saying that Aries and Pisces never see eye-to-eye?"

What I'm saying is what I have experienced myself. Never part? I say never say never. I cannot talk for other Pisces or Aries in that regard. Astrology is too unreliable to make such conclusions.

"Can an aries make a pisces happy, for the long term, and still maintain (w/in reason) the aries mindset?"

If we are speaking about typical Aries and Pisces...No.

"I would like to better understand what happened"

rage151 .. first of all .. men (not just Aries) HAVE to comprehend that women are viewed badly by men if they have had many partners. I don't know if this is the case, but, it appears as though it may .. you told her right up front about your past, while she painted a different story until she felt safe with you .. which, of course, she WASN'T safe and you did what ALL women fear .. you judged and then booted her to the curb. The same rules don't apply to females as men .. you can have as many lovers as you choose and are not judged harshly .. women, on the other hand HAVE to keep these things secret until they know for sure that you will still respect them.

You said she is 26 .. by the time I was this age, I'd slept with probably 60 people.

I WOULDN'T TELL A MAN THAT.

Not until I felt safe that he would love me anyway. Being a Pisces female, she's gonna frighten easy anyway, regardless .. she told you "whatever" it was and looked what happened.

"That 'storybook couple' mindset I had went south."

Men, such as yourself, wants the woman to tell him that she's a good girl .. but, what if she's not .. what if she's had more lovers than you? Do you really want her to tell you that? NO !!!!!!

You want to talk to her about it? Accept her for who she is ..

Of course, I've no clue if this is what it is .. but, it sounds like it from what you've posted .. she's boned quite a few from the sound of things ..

Can you handle it?

" You said she is 26 .. by the time I was this age, I'd slept with probably 60 people. "

lol

rage151 .. Pisces females are extremely SEXUAL .. you know that you are because you are a Ram .. so is she. She's not going to be virginal, especially at her age. Did you give her the impression that you were looking for someone innocent?

I ask this and say these things because from your testimony, it's when she told you about her past (after you made her feel comfortable and trust you) that everything went south .. so, I get the impression that she picked up from you that you wanted a woman who was not so "used".

If you really like her and want to mend this with her .. you HAVE to make sure she is safe with you .. not just say the words - make her know that it's ok for her to open up. Pisces WILL tell you exactly how they feel about you .. ONLY if they feel safe and protected. Now that this has happened .. it may take a very long time to get her to trust you with her heart .. but, I wouldn't give up just yet .. I still maintain and always will ...


Aries/Pisces is PERFECT match.

I think everyone may be perceiving her 'past' thing differently. Here's what went down - she 'sold' to me w/out my persuasion in any way that she was different in her relationships in the past. I plainly told her that I had my wild years and even negatively labeled myself. I appreciate anyone's past...no matter. Matter of fact, I tend to shy away from the 'good girls'. But the fact is that she sold to me, in more ways than one, that she almost a saint. I plainly said up front that I didn't usually like that kind of girl. So in summary, her past has nothing to do with it - I didn't judge her for that. It's the fact that I felt mislead and had my feelings out on the table and she knew it, while still maintaining that she's someone she is not. Make sense?

Thanks for all of the replys so far!

Then, she's a player .. toss her and look for someone sincere.

Anyone is capable of playing games .. for the most part, female Pisces won't play head games with something they care about .. if she did this .. turn on your Aries Ice.

"That 'storybook couple' mindset I had went south."

Meaning .. you thought she was a saint and put the 'storybook couple' idea in your head, but, then you said,

"Matter of fact, I tend to shy away from the 'good girls'."

Is it possible that you gave her mixed signals? The Pisces live within their environment .. she will adapt herself to you .. which is it? Saint or Naughty?

My definition of 'Storybook' is open, honest communication. One poster said that a Pisces can feel if you're genuinely into her. In this case, I was - but found out that I didn't really know her.

And yes, I was not open about one thing - a past flame. But I told her about it... So I am partially to blame too. I kinda see it as one item compared to years of items on her behalf.

I would really like to better understand everything...I really like her. Just need to calibrate my instincts.

Hey Rage 151

**** while still maintaining that she's someone she is not****

Well I am a 28 yr old Pisces girl and was involved with a 33yr old Aries man. I remember he would always tell me that he couldn't wait until the day he saw me for my true self. He would always say I was *Acting*.

True of the matter is I was but I wasn't. I do tend to act differently around certain people. I really did like my Aries man so would try to be on my best behaviour no MATTER WHAT!! As I really liked him. I didn't want him to see any ugliness in me as I didn't want to get rejected. I myself am very secretive not that I am up to no good its just that until I can completely trust you ?you don't need to know everything about me, again fear of rejection.

I Think it can for sure work between a Pisces girl and Aries man. I know many Aries men, and they seem to be the only ones who can challenge me in the bedroom?.yes we are very sexual and can get bored easily in the bedroom?.Aries always keeps us wanting me more ?well for me anyways. Aries are also leaders we love that, to feel protected and safe.

Well sweetie if it doesn't work between you and your Pisces girl give me a call 😉?.sorry I had to?I guess the mischievous part of me is coming out that or the German side lol.

Thanks heidil. That's good stuff! You know, she said the exact same thing you did - that she had to be on her best behavior until she trusted me. She didn't even want to eat in front of me! I also told her that maybe someday, I would get to know her true self. What's funny is that how can an aries be geniune and earn the pisces trust if his instincts tell him that something is awry? Just knew I wasn't getting the whole scoop.

As far as the bedroom...it was kickin. GREAT combination! She said things along the lines of your post.

So, do you think from a Pisces point of view she was painting that picture because she liked me? She said that in the past, guys just ate up the good girl image and she used it quite often. Think she used it on me as game or to impress?

"One poster said that a Pisces can feel if you're genuinely into her."

Absolutely .. in fact, we can sense just about every emotion in others. However, she has to be into you too .. apparantly, she's not. I know for myself, if I'm into a man and loving him .. he is the whole world to me .. I give myself completely .. this is the case for our kind. If she ain't doing it .. she's not into you.

Unfortunately, it sounds like she's playing you .. she knows how you feel about her, like it has been said .. she KNOWS because she can feel it .. she's taking advantage of your feelings and that's really a sad state of affairs. The only thing I can do is try to get you to know that NOT ALL of us are like that.

Seriously, I can't say that I know any female Pisces who has to know about every fling in her man's past. Certainly, we want to know about the ones who were important to you and that you may have loved .. but, giving space and privacy to a man is something we want to do for you because we want it for ourselves as well. There are some, obviously, because you're not the firt one to come in here and have this gripe .. but, I don't know any and I know many fish-girls.

She's playing you .. walk away.

"I do tend to act differently around certain people"

We all do this .. we adapt to our environment .. so, we behave differently with different people. I can't say that I ever "acted" with any man as to how I felt about him. But, it's been said that it happens .. so, there must be fish-girls who do this. Rejection isn't something I fear, so, that would make sense, I guess as to why a woman would behave out-of-character for her true self.

"She said that in the past, guys just ate up the good girl image and she used it quite often."

There should be all kinds of bells ringing here, lights flashing, flags waving ..

Hey Rage 151?

P-Angel is right when we like you?it is so obvious.

Its hard to tell you what her intentions are as I don't know you, I can only talk on my behalf and my experiences.

I don't like to say I give off that good girl image as a show as I do give off the good girl image but I have other personalities as well. If I am trying to impress you I will try and read you and see what you like and act away that I wont offend or scare you off. The whole eating thing?..if I have to eat in front of the guy I am trying to impress my hand is over my mouth the whole time people hate it lol.

I have also been told by my Aries men that I am to nice. I seem to almost mother them. I will cook for you clean for you etc. But what my Aries men don't know is that I do this for everyone.

When you mentioned space, us Pisces will respect that, I also need my space, as long as we feel loved and secure then we have no problems giving our Aries men their space.

I want to tell you that the girl you are seeing is not playing you as I don't agree with people who do that and I am a hopeless romantic; but I can't as like I said I don't know her or her intentions. If you want to know what's going on just ask her straight out. That's another quality I love about Aries men is that they are blunt and they don't hide around the brush when something is wrong. Talk to her that's the best advice I can give you for your Pisces girl or anyone who fills your mind with doubt.

"girl you are seeing is not playing you"

No, I don't agree, nor like it when people do this either, hiedi .. however, he said that she told him straight up ..

"She said that in the past, guys just ate up the good girl image and she used it quite often."

This should be obvious .. she uses an image that is NOT true to herself to get guys to eat her up .. that is playing a head game.

Also, rage, you HAVE to keep in mind, as well as anybody else who wants to try and have a relationship with a Pisces is that .. we process life - everything in it - in our "other" world. As hiedi calls it, "I have other personalities". Sometimes, Pisces gets confused and struggles with the difference between reality and fantasy because in both planes of existence it's REAL to us. When we day-dream .. it seems like the real shit, lucid, defined, has color, texture .. it's imparative that you realize this because we all exist in two worlds simultaneously ..

** Two fish swimming in opposite directions **

"I will cook for you clean for you etc. But what my Aries men don't know is that I do this for everyone."

Yeah, me too .. clean their house, cook their food, wash their clothes, run errands .. and just because I want to .. no other reason .. like doing "domestic" chores. Reading over on the Pisces board and knowing other fish-girls in my life .. we are all this way. But, hey .. I got friends who HATE domestic stuff, so, somebody's got to do it.

🙂

Well, I am confused. She said that her intention was to do nothing wrong b/c she was so serious about her and I - didn't want anything to go wrong. She, from what I seen, took us very serious. She started ignoring her friends (I did not imply or ask her to), missed a pro football game, etc., so that she could spend time w/me. Think that maybe the line 'guys eat the good girl thing up' was just her natural approach to guys and had never needed to put it all out on the table? Since we've distanced ourselves, she has apparently been pretty upset, etc. Could this be a genuine hurt, or the fear of rejection you all keep mentioning? Believe me, Pisces characteristics are almost overwhelming. We (aries) just go for the gusto while they absorb EVERYTHING.

Sweetie when I fall for someone which is usually fast I tell them?I struggle not to say the L word. All of my Aries men would say..*I know ur falling for me* cause it was obvious. If you are uncertain that she wants a relationship with you then maybe she doesn't; I dunno. But I do know that most girls like stability therefore knowing whats going on in the relationship.

DO you know if she is seeing someone else?

If your Pisces girl is ignoring you or just calling/hanging out with only to her convenience and is not going out of her way for anything then she isn't interested.

This last question to me would be the most important however it is personal so if u choose not to answer that's ok. How did or does she treat you after sex. Will she just get up and leave etc.

Myself and all the Pisces girls I know sex and love are hard to separate; not impossible just hard. All the guys I have been with if I didn't care about them trust me they all knew.

EVERYTHING .. and we can't help absorbing it all ..

"Pisces characteristics are almost overwhelming."

I know, sometimes, it's hard for us too because while you have only one level of brain processing .. we have two, and it gets confusing for us too (sometimes).

rage151 .. you HAVE to comprehend, it's a MUST, to understanding us .. there are two levels of existence inside of us, and some Pisces find it extremely difficult to meld both of these together without totally leaving a person flabbergasted .. as the years roll on, we learn to get a grasp on how to express ourselves for non-Pisces to relate to us without walking away, scratching their heads, wondering what planet we're from.

The only way to do this is by example: When a woman (fish) meets a man she likes (you), she watches your every move, every word, tone, expression (everything) .. then takes these things into her "other" existence and processes there: does he like me, what did he mean by that, did I say the wrong thing, what does he want, does he love me, his mood said this (everything) .. after we've come to a conclusion as to your intentions .. we pull our findings over into "this" level (the one you live in) and here is where we have to express to you how we feel, what we want .. though, it's actually felt in the "other" place .. that's why, if you've ever noticed, we'll suddenly become glossed over. Like, you'll say something and we appear at a loss for words and all dreamy .. it's because you just said something and we had to take a moment to process it "over there" on the other side of the rainbow.

Usually, what most people encounter, is evasiveness .. we'll side-step you .. we've learned to become masters at being elusive, only to later come back, wanting to discuss what YOU wanted to talk about 20 minutes ago .. you ever encountered that? If so, that's what happened .. sometimes, we'll just babble away, never seeming to have a solid decision .. that's when we're processing verbally .. then, finally, we'll make a choice.

It's difficult .. I know ..

With your woman, when you said, "Since we've distanced ourselves, she has apparently been pretty upset" .. this would indicate that she IS indeed serious because, like the Aries and their "Ice" .. the fish WILL swim away and never look back. If she wasn't interested .. you'd never hear from her again.

If I were you, this is what I would do:

Try getting with her again, even if it's platonic .. just hang out and watch TV or something .. while with her, strike up a conversation about something that has to make her think about how she "feels" about something (not the two of you) .. watch her stammer for a couple seconds before she answers, or maybe she'll be evasive, another thing we do is lose eye contact .. this is her going "over there" to think about what you said, so she can process how she feels .. she'll then look you in the eye and answer.

When she does this, tell her something sweet about how you like the way she isn't hasty and thinks deeply about everything. Show her with the admiration in your eyes that her hesitation before answering is something that is endearing to you and whatever you do .. DON'T lose patience when she does this .. or she'll swim away.

You may have to do this several times .. but, once she realizes that you are still standing there, wanting her (while she's away), she'll then feel "safe" with you. It's not in this reality that she seeks safety - it's the "other". That IS the reason for our secrets .. that IS what we are guarding .. because we know that people look at us and treat us like we are freaks .. if she feels safe, protected and comfortable with you while she is "dreaming" about how she feels, and you won't forsake her for it, or get upset or angry at her .. she'll then trust you and rely on YOU to make sound judgements FOR her, after time, she'll start depending on you and stop needing to search her other self .. because she'll know IN YOU there is nothing to fear.

That IS the way to us .. we frighten easier than any other .. protect our dreams and we'll remain loyally devoted to you.

heidil, to answer your questions... I don't think she is seeing anyone else. I have interesting thoughts on this. I've met her parents one time...none of her friends. She's invited me, but never been persistent or very serious about it. I've taken her out of state to meet my family and friends, she also stays w/me if we hang out, etc. I've never been to her house. Bottom line, I cannot be sure if she's talking to someone else...haven't seen hardly any of her life.
Your second question - She does not get up and leave, but the opposite.

P-Angel, that has to be the most insightful commentary I've read today. Everyone's contributions have been awesome, but your example is wonderful. You are so on the money about stammering for a couple of seconds when asked a question, etc... She's admitted that she has to 'process' everything - I just couldn't understand it. You've shed a much needed light on it.

Wow...this is soooo much to take in! Think it's time for this ole aries to 'process'! It looks like there's definately potential for the ram and fish, but the ram can't use his horns and the fish may need to quit swimming. I wish there was an easier way. May try the platonic approach and see what happens...I'll keep you posted!

Wowzier! just checked out your photos Rage151 - quite the handsome Arian you are!

I did on his myspace .. damn, you Rams are so hot ..

Thx Freebird! You know we Aries like that attention! lol

P-Angel, thank you too!!!

The first friend listed on my myspace page is the pisces I'm talking about!

my instincts say that she was trying to feel you out first, yes maybe to impress you. Keep the faith, take it a day at a time, and see how it goes. If she is really into you, eventually she will open up...*but take it gently with her, so it doesn't feel like an interrogation.