How easy or hard is it to chance an Aries mind?

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Something they have their mind fully set on lmao... like what kind of measures would one have to go through to make them budge?
It depends on the context of why you want them to change.

Aries is Cardinal, but if they have mostly fixed components, you have to treat it like you're dealing with a fixed sign, and it will be extremely hard to change their mind, UNLESS you have something concrete, consistent and valid to show them and explain why they need to change.
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So they are probably more open minded than stubborn.

What happened @Op —
Soooooooooo lmao he's not into going down..... you know... but I'm all for it.... but won't if he doesn't.... mind you I don't get off any other way.... and I told him that... even after I told him that he still didn't and no he didn't have a bad experience with doing so he just doesn't want to... wondering if this is changeable with time....

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Something they have their mind fully set on lmao... like what kind of measures would one have to go through to make them budge?
It depends on the context of why you want them to change.

Aries is Cardinal, but if they have mostly fixed components, you have to treat it like you're dealing with a fixed sign, and it will be extremely hard to change their mind, UNLESS you have something concrete, consistent and valid to show them and explain why they need to change.
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So they are probably more open minded than stubborn.

What happened @Op —
Soooooooooo lmao he's not into going down..... you know... but I'm all for it.... but won't if he doesn't.... mind you I don't get off any other way.... and I told him that... even after I told him that he still didn't and no he didn't have a bad experience with doing so he just doesn't want to... wondering if this is changeable with time....

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Hmmm....it is changeable with time. Just expose him to more visuals of cunnilingus, get him comfortable with the idea. Talk to him about hygiene, etc.

And I'm saying this as someone who once used to be uncomfortable with the idea of going down on a woman (I am also fixed dominant).
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So they are probably more open minded than stubborn.

What happened @Op —
Soooooooooo lmao he's not into going down..... you know... but I'm all for it.... but won't if he doesn't.... mind you I don't get off any other way.... and I told him that... even after I told him that he still didn't and no he didn't have a bad experience with doing so he just doesn't want to... wondering if this is changeable with time....


Hmmm....it is changeable with time. Just expose him to more visuals of cunnilingus, get him comfortable with the idea. Talk to him about hygiene, etc.

And I'm saying this as someone who once used to be uncomfortable with the idea of going down on a woman (I am also fixed dominant).
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Hmmmmm ok so there's hope. Like I don't wanna feel like I'm forcing it on him, but it's definitely important to me. Thank you for your input and for taking my topic seriously 🙂
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Something they have their mind fully set on lmao... like what kind of measures would one have to go through to make them budge?
It depends on the context of why you want them to change.

Aries is Cardinal, but if they have mostly fixed components, you have to treat it like you're dealing with a fixed sign, and it will be extremely hard to change their mind, UNLESS you have something concrete, consistent and valid to show them and explain why they need to change.
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When I was pregnant my husband wanted a bigger house. I was happy with our 2 bed cosy place. And i tild him this. Anyway He waited until I was 8 months pregnant to start house-hunting. Didn't tell me he was hunting either! He just told me one day that we have an appointment to go and see a house!?! Leaving me totally bewildered! !

Anyway, getting to the point, my husband REFUSED to not sell our house and went about making appointments for potential buyers to view our house every Saturday including when our baby was born!?! I wanted to SCREAM at him! So I did! I said 'CANCEL THE TREETRUNKING SALE!!'

He wouldn't. There I was a new mum exhausted with lack of sleep night after night with a new born baby and this is what he did. The only way out of this was to go behind his back and call the estate agents secretly and tell them to cancel the sale of our house and that we are not moving anymore.

I didn't do it though as I am not underhand.

So even with a concrete reason to change his mind, it didn't work.

He was too obsessed with wanting a getting a 4 bed family home - that I didn't want at the time - that he just didn't care how tired and drained I was. He argued and fought with me until I backed down. And we argued a lot! I just wanted to stay in our little cosy house until I feel ready both physically (I had a caesarian) and emotionally to move house.

So yeah..I don't get Aries either ?
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Something they have their mind fully set on lmao... like what kind of measures would one have to go through to make them budge?
It depends on the context of why you want them to change.

Aries is Cardinal, but if they have mostly fixed components, you have to treat it like you're dealing with a fixed sign, and it will be extremely hard to change their mind, UNLESS you have something concrete, consistent and valid to show them and explain why they need to change.
When I was pregnant my husband wanted a bigger house. I was happy with our 2 bed cosy place. And i tild him this. Anyway He waited until I was 8 months pregnant to start house-hunting. Didn't tell me he was hunting either! He just told me one day that we have an appointment to go and see a house!?! Leaving me totally bewildered! !

Anyway, getting to the point, my husband REFUSED to not sell our house and went about making appointments for potential buyers to view our house every Saturday including when our baby was born!?! I wanted to SCREAM at him! So I did! I said 'CANCEL THE TREETRUNKING SALE!!'

He wouldn't. There I was a new mum exhausted with lack of sleep night after night with a new born baby and this is what he did. The only way out of this was to go behind his back and call the estate agents secretly and tell them to cancel the sale of our house and that we are not moving anymore.

I didn't do it though as I am not underhand.

So even with a concrete reason to change his mind, it didn't work.

He was too obsessed with wanting a getting a 4 bed family home - that I didn't want at the time - that he just didn't care how tired and drained I was. He argued and fought with me until I backed down. And we argued a lot! I just wanted to stay in our little cosy house until I feel ready both physically (I had a caesarian) and emotionally to move house.

So yeah..I don't get Aries either ?
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Some selfish shit. They can be selfish and childish and headstrong from what I'm noticing....
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Hmmm....it is changeable with time. Just expose him to more visuals of cunnilingus, get him comfortable with the idea. Talk to him about hygiene, etc.

And I'm saying this as someone who once used to be uncomfortable with the idea of going down on a woman (I am also fixed dominant).



Hmmmmm ok so there's hope. Like I don't wanna feel like I'm forcing it on him, but it's definitely important to me. Thank you for your input and for taking my topic seriously 🙂



I think if someone cares and wants it all to work between you then they can and should try to compromise and learn and grow and change a bit. Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs.
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Hmmm....it is changeable with time. Just expose him to more visuals of cunnilingus, get him comfortable with the idea. Talk to him about hygiene, etc.

And I'm saying this as someone who once used to be uncomfortable with the idea of going down on a woman (I am also fixed dominant).



Hmmmmm ok so there's hope. Like I don't wanna feel like I'm forcing it on him, but it's definitely important to me. Thank you for your input and for taking my topic seriously 🙂



I think if someone cares and wants it all to work between you then they can and should try to compromise and learn and grow and change a bit. Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs.
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Hmmm....it is changeable with time. Just expose him to more visuals of cunnilingus, get him comfortable with the idea. Talk to him about hygiene, etc.

And I'm saying this as someone who once used to be uncomfortable with the idea of going down on a woman (I am also fixed dominant).



Hmmmmm ok so there's hope. Like I don't wanna feel like I'm forcing it on him, but it's definitely important to me. Thank you for your input and for taking my topic seriously 🙂



I think if someone cares and wants it all to work between you then they can and should try to compromise and learn and grow and change a bit. Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs.



What do you mean when you said: "Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs?" Meaning I shouldn't want him to go down if that's the only way I climax? If so, I don't believe it's fair that I get him to climax each time and I never do...
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So they are probably more open minded than stubborn.

What happened @Op —
Soooooooooo lmao he's not into going down..... you know... but I'm all for it.... but won't if he doesn't.... mind you I don't get off any other way.... and I told him that... even after I told him that he still didn't and no he didn't have a bad experience with doing so he just doesn't want to... wondering if this is changeable with time....


Does he feel like he's being forced or has no other options? Because as an Aries I like to do things on my own. I don't like when people direct or control me.

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Well I never like said he HAD to do it I just told him what it means to me ya know and why I want/need it. Hoping that'll get him to care I suppose. Then I kinda backed off the topic. I told him I don't have a problem going down if it's mutual ya know
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I think if someone cares and wants it all to work between you then they can and should try to compromise and learn and grow and change a bit. Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs.



What do you mean when you said: "Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs?" Meaning I shouldn't want him to go down if that's the only way I climax? If so, I don't believe it's fair that I get him to climax each time and I never do...



oh, no, I meant this - trying to put in another way - IMO if he cares about staying around and working on these things and pleasing you in the way you prefer, maybe you could also work on why you can't get off with him on top rather than him going down - don't you think that's fair if he is willing to work on the going down thing ? I mean you said that is the only way you can get off. Why is that ?
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I think if someone cares and wants it all to work between you then they can and should try to compromise and learn and grow and change a bit. Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs.



What do you mean when you said: "Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs?" Meaning I shouldn't want him to go down if that's the only way I climax? If so, I don't believe it's fair that I get him to climax each time and I never do...



oh, no, I meant this - trying to put in another way - IMO if he cares about staying around and working on these things and pleasing you in the way you prefer, maybe you could also work on why you can't get off with him on top rather than him going down - don't you think that's fair if he is willing to work on the going down thing ? I mean you said that is the only way you can get off. Why is that ?



Yeah that's fair. As long as like there's some compromise. I don't think it's cool for either of our needs to be dismissed. I agree with that.

And well it's just never happened. Idk. And I think I make guys climax fast and it takes me longer to get there so even if I'm omw I probably need more time or something.
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I think if someone cares and wants it all to work between you then they can and should try to compromise and learn and grow and change a bit. Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs.


What do you mean when you said: "Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs?" Meaning I shouldn't want him to go down if that's the only way I climax? If so, I don't believe it's fair that I get him to climax each time and I never do...



oh, no, I meant this - trying to put in another way - IMO if he cares about staying around and working on these things and pleasing you in the way you prefer, maybe you could also work on why you can't get off with him on top rather than him going down - don't you think that's fair if he is willing to work on the going down thing ? I mean you said that is the only way you can get off. Why is that ?



Yeah that's fair. As long as like there's some compromise. I don't think it's cool for either of our needs to be dismissed. I agree with that.

And well it's just never happened. Idk. And I think I make guys climax fast and it takes me longer to get there so even if I'm omw I probably need more time or something.

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don't push, slow and steady ...

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Something they have their mind fully set on lmao... like what kind of measures would one have to go through to make them budge?
It depends on the context of why you want them to change.

Aries is Cardinal, but if they have mostly fixed components, you have to treat it like you're dealing with a fixed sign, and it will be extremely hard to change their mind, UNLESS you have something concrete, consistent and valid to show them and explain why they need to change.
When I was pregnant my husband wanted a bigger house. I was happy with our 2 bed cosy place. And i tild him this. Anyway He waited until I was 8 months pregnant to start house-hunting. Didn't tell me he was hunting either! He just told me one day that we have an appointment to go and see a house!?! Leaving me totally bewildered! !

Anyway, getting to the point, my husband REFUSED to not sell our house and went about making appointments for potential buyers to view our house every Saturday including when our baby was born!?! I wanted to SCREAM at him! So I did! I said 'CANCEL THE TREETRUNKING SALE!!'

He wouldn't. There I was a new mum exhausted with lack of sleep night after night with a new born baby and this is what he did. The only way out of this was to go behind his back and call the estate agents secretly and tell them to cancel the sale of our house and that we are not moving anymore.

I didn't do it though as I am not underhand.

So even with a concrete reason to change his mind, it didn't work.

He was too obsessed with wanting a getting a 4 bed family home - that I didn't want at the time - that he just didn't care how tired and drained I was. He argued and fought with me until I backed down. And we argued a lot! I just wanted to stay in our little cosy house until I feel ready both physically (I had a caesarian) and emotionally to move house.

So yeah..I don't get Aries either ?
Some selfish shit. They can be selfish and childish and headstrong from what I'm noticing....
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Yup! That is my husband! Selfish. Childish. Headstrong. And Will. Not. BUDGE!

However..when all is said and done and all that's left is the fallout from the explosion, he Still does not notice what he's done wrong. He just lives happily in his bubble of ignorance as he's got HIS OWN WAY and that's all he cares about. It's only when I spell it out to him what's actually happened does he begin to realise!?!

bored to death of it.com

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Something they have their mind fully set on lmao... like what kind of measures would one have to go through to make them budge?
It depends on the context of why you want them to change.

Aries is Cardinal, but if they have mostly fixed components, you have to treat it like you're dealing with a fixed sign, and it will be extremely hard to change their mind, UNLESS you have something concrete, consistent and valid to show them and explain why they need to change.
When I was pregnant my husband wanted a bigger house. I was happy with our 2 bed cosy place. And i tild him this. Anyway He waited until I was 8 months pregnant to start house-hunting. Didn't tell me he was hunting either! He just told me one day that we have an appointment to go and see a house!?! Leaving me totally bewildered! !

Anyway, getting to the point, my husband REFUSED to not sell our house and went about making appointments for potential buyers to view our house every Saturday including when our baby was born!?! I wanted to SCREAM at him! So I did! I said 'CANCEL THE TREETRUNKING SALE!!'

He wouldn't. There I was a new mum exhausted with lack of sleep night after night with a new born baby and this is what he did. The only way out of this was to go behind his back and call the estate agents secretly and tell them to cancel the sale of our house and that we are not moving anymore.

I didn't do it though as I am not underhand.

So even with a concrete reason to change his mind, it didn't work.

He was too obsessed with wanting a getting a 4 bed family home - that I didn't want at the time - that he just didn't care how tired and drained I was. He argued and fought with me until I backed down. And we argued a lot! I just wanted to stay in our little cosy house until I feel ready both physically (I had a caesarian) and emotionally to move house.

So yeah..I don't get Aries either ?
Some selfish shit. They can be selfish and childish and headstrong from what I'm noticing....
Yup! That is my husband! Selfish. Childish. Headstrong. And Will. Not. BUDGE!

However..when all is said and done and all that's left is the fallout from the explosion, he Still does not notice what he's done wrong. He just lives happily in his bubble of ignorance as he's got HIS OWN WAY and that's all he cares about. It's only when I spell it out to him what's actually happened does he begin to realise!?!

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That's crazy and what's your sign?

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Hmmm....it is changeable with time. Just expose him to more visuals of cunnilingus, get him comfortable with the idea. Talk to him about hygiene, etc.

And I'm saying this as someone who once used to be uncomfortable with the idea of going down on a woman (I am also fixed dominant).
Hmmmmm ok so there's hope. Like I don't wanna feel like I'm forcing it on him, but it's definitely important to me. Thank you for your input and for taking my topic seriously 🙂


I think if someone cares and wants it all to work between you then they can and should try to compromise and learn and grow and change a bit. Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs.



What do you mean when you said: "Not sure why you can't do the same and not be so fixed about your needs?" Meaning I shouldn't want him to go down if that's the only way I climax? If so, I don't believe it's fair that I get him to climax each time and I never do...



Just because you desire a want from someone else does not mean they are required to give it to you if they don't feel comfortable in doing it. What you will do is beside the point. That's where getting to know someone and determining compatibility falls in. If you guys can't come to a compromise then maybe you aren't a good match.
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You're right. I said that before lol. Then he got mad at me lol. I said maybe we aren't sexually compatible then I said maybe we shouldn't have sex lol. This was before we had sex. I gave it a try, but nope I didn't climax. N like ok if you're not gonna go down I'm not goingto force you however he could've used his fingers or something. Like don't be selfish bruh. So I told him how I felt, but if it continues like that and I'm not getting anything out of it but frustration then yup I guess I gotta keep it movin.
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Depends on whether or not I ultimately believe in whatever you are trying to convince me of. If I have respect for you, and I feel that I could "lose" this one, and it seems to mean more to you than me, and I have respect for you, I will choose to change my mind -or I will LET you change my mind.

If I have no respect for you, even if it's something menial that doesn't actually hold any importance to me, I will never change my mind if for nothing else but to spite you. It won't take much energy on my part either.
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Something they have their mind fully set on lmao... like what kind of measures would one have to go through to make them budge?
It depends on the context of why you want them to change.

Aries is Cardinal, but if they have mostly fixed components, you have to treat it like you're dealing with a fixed sign, and it will be extremely hard to change their mind, UNLESS you have something concrete, consistent and valid to show them and explain why they need to change.
When I was pregnant my husband wanted a bigger house. I was happy with our 2 bed cosy place. And i tild him this. Anyway He waited until I was 8 months pregnant to start house-hunting. Didn't tell me he was hunting either! He just told me one day that we have an appointment to go and see a house!?! Leaving me totally bewildered! !

Anyway, getting to the point, my husband REFUSED to not sell our house and went about making appointments for potential buyers to view our house every Saturday including when our baby was born!?! I wanted to SCREAM at him! So I did! I said 'CANCEL THE TREETRUNKING SALE!!'

He wouldn't. There I was a new mum exhausted with lack of sleep night after night with a new born baby and this is what he did. The only way out of this was to go behind his back and call the estate agents secretly and tell them to cancel the sale of our house and that we are not moving anymore.

I didn't do it though as I am not underhand.

So even with a concrete reason to change his mind, it didn't work.

He was too obsessed with wanting a getting a 4 bed family home - that I didn't want at the time - that he just didn't care how tired and drained I was. He argued and fought with me until I backed down. And we argued a lot! I just wanted to stay in our little cosy house until I feel ready both physically (I had a caesarian) and emotionally to move house.

So yeah..I don't get Aries either ?
Some selfish shit. They can be selfish and childish and headstrong from what I'm noticing....
Yup! That is my husband! Selfish. Childish. Headstrong. And Will. Not. BUDGE!

However..when all is said and done and all that's left is the fallout from the explosion, he Still does not notice what he's done wrong. He just lives happily in his bubble of ignorance as he's got HIS OWN WAY and that's all he cares about. It's only when I spell it out to him what's actually happened does he begin to realise!?!

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The irony of this scenario is - I know of someone who did similar. Bought a bigger apartment without his Aries wife's permission (because he knew she loved the current apartment they were living in). Made the downpayment and everything, until the housing agent told him that 2 signatures are needed for the purchase. His own and his wife's. LMAO.

His sign? Libra.
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So they are probably more open minded than stubborn.

What happened @Op —
Soooooooooo lmao he's not into going down..... you know... but I'm all for it.... but won't if he doesn't.... mind you I don't get off any other way.... and I told him that... even after I told him that he still didn't and no he didn't have a bad experience with doing so he just doesn't want to... wondering if this is changeable with time....

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I can't even read any more. you've GOT to find out why he doesn't want to-- whether it's hygiene, manicuring, lack of experience, anxiety, SOMETHING! Most men like to give back to their woman and if he's not willing to even do that for you to be satisfied, that's selfish and you may need to find another partner. you won't be happy with someone who can't satisfy you sexually. just my opinion. if it's just anxiety from inexperience, you could get some oral porn for you guys to watch so he can learn while he does ?
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So they are probably more open minded than stubborn.

What happened @Op —
Soooooooooo lmao he's not into going down..... you know... but I'm all for it.... but won't if he doesn't.... mind you I don't get off any other way.... and I told him that... even after I told him that he still didn't and no he didn't have a bad experience with doing so he just doesn't want to... wondering if this is changeable with time....


I can't even read any more. you've GOT to find out why he doesn't want to-- whether it's hygiene, manicuring, lack of experience, anxiety, SOMETHING! Most men like to give back to their woman and if he's not willing to even do that for you to be satisfied, that's selfish and you may need to find another partner. you won't be happy with someone who can't satisfy you sexually. just my opinion. if it's just anxiety from inexperience, you could get some oral porn for you guys to watch so he can learn while he does ?

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I agree. My thoughts exactly. He won't elaborate on why. He just always says he just doesn't do it..... like how tf I'm supposed to work with that lol. And like I don't wanna keep bringing up but if the problem can't be resolved theeennnnn idk.