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Detriment & fall, WTF?
What Do Detriment and Fall Mean in Astrology
Detriment and fall are planetary positions indicating weaker influences. Detriment occurs when a planet is opposite its ruling sign, while fall is when a planet is in the sign where it is least comfortable. These positions can affect how planetary energies manifest, but individual traits vary greatly. Understanding these placements helps interpret personal challenges and strengths.
Posted by sand
Its just a different expression.
please explain what you mean
Posted by tiziani
Yeah you know, like 'Libra' & 'Greatness'Two interchangeable terms that essentially mean exactly the same thing!
keep wishing. next please!!
Posted by ninjafish
Don't worry WC, tiz has a double bum deal as well. Sun and venus fallen.😄
oh, does he now?🙂 does a fallen venus = psychorpio venus?
Posted by Sutekh
Fall is like after you jump off a roof, your're half way through the fall. You're alive but you're fckedDetriment is you hit the ground and youre dead.
Im lmao @ your logic though
Evander Holyfield (Libra) was definitely tougher than any Aquarius boxers .all the Aquarius boxers of note are quitters who literally have quit on the stool or started cheap shotting, even with Mars in Aries.
Michael Jordan was one of the fiercest competitors of all time and was an Aquarius but he had the emotional compulsion dynamic of a fire moon aspecting fire mars.
Libra is in fall as a sun sign (you and me, 2 people) Aquarius is in detriment (All of us). Leo (Me,I) is domicile
Aries - exaltation (ME)
Leo- Domicile ( I AM)
Sagittarius- (I BELIEVE) which is more detached from ego and mutable which is why it's not in a dignity as a Sun sign.
your post makes me wanna go jump from the roof & die lol. But thanks anyways as it makes some sense.
Posted by sand
Its just a different expression.please explain what you mean
my jupiter is in cap. Im immoral and unethical yet i get away with it coz my sun and venus trine it. I have no harsh aspects to it.
Jupiter rules ethics. It is exalted in cancer.click to expand
okay. I honestly dont know what to say to that lol. Congrats for having an exalted planet, i guess. At least your sun is not a scum lord.
Posted by ninjafish
It just means the planet is least comfortable/compatible with expressing the energy of a particular sign.It is most comfortable expressing the energy in which it receives dignity (e.g. sun in leo) and so opposite that is the sign of detriment (aquarius). Sun "exalts" in aries and the sign opposite is where it falls, libra.
@tiz: Remember that video I showed you on venus in virgo? He was elaborating on how and why venus "falls" there. You could see it wasn't all bad at all.
thanks 🙂
Posted by ninjafish
It just means the planet is least comfortable/compatible with expressing the energy of a particular sign.It is most comfortable expressing the energy in which it receives dignity (e.g. sun in leo) and so opposite that is the sign of detriment (aquarius). Sun "exalts" in aries and the sign opposite is where it falls, libra.
@tiz: Remember that video I showed you on venus in virgo? He was elaborating on how and why venus "falls" there. You could see it wasn't all bad at all.
Ah fair enough. That time he said "debilitated"
I'm with Water Cup.
You advanced astrologers and your words. Jeez.
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you know what im saying? Stuff like that is traumatic to a DETRIMENT ego lol.
Ninja, what are 'dignity points'?
Posted by sugaries
I'm exalted. What have you done lately?
lol what?
Posted by tiziani
I've always been a little old fashioned and way too into history. So I take it to mean we're screwed.High five, WC!
😉
Posted by Gandalf
moon is not good for Scorpio. If you follow tennis you know that RF is considered the best player. He has a lot of charisma and skill which somes from leo sun and gemini midheaven. His Scorpio moon makes him so weak emotionally. The slightest difficulty and he folds like a weakling for a so called GOAT. He also makes arrogant comments without e even realizng it and is prone to bursts of passion and sensitivity.Rafeal Nadal has a moon in Taurus and he owns RF time after time. He is like that steady and powerful warrior going against the arrogant and very volatile genius.
Aquarius sun should have Aries moon or cancer moon. You need to make up for weak individuality with a fiery moon. Cancer moon is a great healing balm for all that dry and cool air of Aquarius.
i cant relate to RF's wimpy moon, maybe he is cancer decan. Mine is 1st decan & im no crybaby. Thanks, G
Posted by sugaries
I'm exalted. What have you done lately?lol what?
LOL ionno 😛
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hahaha. I think i get it, but im not 100% sure lol.
Posted by ninjafish
By dignity points I just meant sign placement... So mars is dignified in aries, the sign opposite aries is libra, hence mars is detrimented in libra. Mars is meanwhile exalted in capricorn, and opposite that is the sign of cancer, which is where mars falls.
oh i get it, thanks. Where did you learn these things?
Posted by sand
Its just a different expression.please explain what you mean
my jupiter is in cap. Im immoral and unethical yet i get away with it coz my sun and venus trine it. I have no harsh aspects to it.
Jupiter rules ethics. It is exalted in cancer.okay. I honestly dont know what to say to that lol. Congrats for having an exalted planet, i guess. At least your sun is not a scum lord.
no i dont have an exalted planet. I just mentioned the sign jupiter is exalted in.
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sorry, my mistake, i reread it 🙂
Posted by Gandalf
Moon in Taurus will defeat you in battle. you need the cunning intelligence and versatility of a Novak Djokovic to take down a Taurus moon.i dislike this moon. Such a homer simpson moon.
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lmao @ homer simpson moon. What do you mean? Dumb & greedy?
Posted by Gandalf
I don't think it's as bad for you though as it would be for a Leo. Fire and water is just bad....too much sweet and too much sugar! yech!Since you are a lovely aqua it should be a nice little cooling effect for you. It may be weak but it is not that bad for air sun since air and water complement each other quite nicely.
*twirls* thanks, G 🙂
last night on the RHOA reunion. NeNe tweeted "guess which cast member is asking for food and she know she dont need any?"
i automatically thought, which member has a tauri placement. Kandi. my coworker is a tauri mars and she cant put the fork down for nuthin.
so tauri moons can put the fork down either?
scorpio moon is in its fall, still doesnt sit well with me. but it is what it is.
Posted by Sutekh
Moon in Scorpio is in fall because it betrays lunar qualities. Which include empathy, sensitivity for others, feeding yourself, nurturing yourself (Scorpio is a sign of deprivation)
which is the others persons' fault really
Posted by ninjafish
By dignity points I just meant sign placement... So mars is dignified in aries, the sign opposite aries is libra, hence mars is detrimented in libra. Mars is meanwhile exalted in capricorn, and opposite that is the sign of cancer, which is where mars falls.oh i get it, thanks. Where did you learn these things?
Just reading... Picking things up here and there in typical gemini moon mental bowerbird fashion. Jack of all trades, master of nothing, finger in every pie kinda thing
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lol good for you, clever moon & all. Mine all it wants to do is fuck, watch fucking animals on animal planet & google weird porn lol.
Posted by Gandalf
Moon in Taurus will defeat you in battle. you need the cunning intelligence and versatility of a Novak Djokovic to take down a Taurus moon.i dislike this moon. Such a homer simpson moon.
lmao @ homer simpson moon. What do you mean? Dumb & greedy?
like drinks beer and belches. Even the females. Ideal date is tv dinner. Some sex. Maybe on the couch coz she too lazy to move her ass. Dont block the tv.
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lmao!
Posted by Sutekh
Fall is like after you jump off a roof, your're half way through the fall. You're alive but you're fckedDetriment is you hit the ground and youre dead.
Im lmao @ your logic though
Evander Holyfield (Libra) was definitely tougher than any Aquarius boxers .all the Aquarius boxers of note are quitters who literally have quit on the stool or started cheap shotting, even with Mars in Aries.
Michael Jordan was one of the fiercest competitors of all time and was an Aquarius but he had the emotional compulsion dynamic of a fire moon aspecting fire mars.
Libra is in fall as a sun sign (you and me, 2 people) Aquarius is in detriment (All of us). Leo (Me,I) is domicile
Aries - exaltation (ME)
Leo- Domicile ( I AM)
Sagittarius- (I BELIEVE) which is more detached from ego and mutable which is why it's not in a dignity as a Sun sign.
your post makes me wanna go jump from the roof & die lol. But thanks anyways as it makes some sense.
no don't jump!! Come back!!
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just make sure you catch me. I'll be indebted to you for life if you do that 😉
Posted by DMV
last night on the RHOA reunion. NeNe tweeted "guess which cast member is asking for food and she know she dont need any?"i automatically thought, which member has a tauri placement. Kandi. my coworker is a tauri mars and she cant put the fork down for nuthin.
so tauri moons can put the fork down either?
kandi looks familiar, is she the same kandi who used to sing?
Posted by Sutekh
Moon in Scorpio is in fall because it betrays lunar qualities. Which include empathy, sensitivity for others, feeding yourself, nurturing yourself (Scorpio is a sign of deprivation)which is the others persons' fault really
how?
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i wouldnt have to resort to deprivation tactics if people just act right from jump.
Posted by Sutekh
Moon in Scorpio is in fall because it betrays lunar qualities. Which include empathy, sensitivity for others, feeding yourself, nurturing yourself (Scorpio is a sign of deprivation)which is the others persons' fault really
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+100
Posted by Sutekh
Moon in Scorpio is in fall because it betrays lunar qualities. Which include empathy, sensitivity for others, feeding yourself, nurturing yourself (Scorpio is a sign of deprivation)which is the others persons' fault really
I know how to feed that moon though >:O)
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lol @ that ^^
to answer the 'why', because people suck & dont deserve much sympathy for the drama they create and choose not to rise above it. Us scorpio moons dont need anybody's pity or sympathy because we are self sufficient emotionally and have enough strength to rise above all the shit thrown our way..WITHOUT ANY HELP
Posted by Sutekh
Moon in Scorpio is in fall because it betrays lunar qualities. Which include empathy, sensitivity for others, feeding yourself, nurturing yourself (Scorpio is a sign of deprivation)which is the others persons' fault really
how?
i wouldnt have to resort to deprivation tactics if people just act right from jump.
You do realize you're deprived because of what you project right?
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if by "project" you mean "come true." than yes
Posted by Sutekh
Moon in Scorpio is in fall because it betrays lunar qualities. Which include empathy, sensitivity for others, feeding yourself, nurturing yourself (Scorpio is a sign of deprivation)which is the others persons' fault really
I know how to feed that moon though >:O)
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i do not doubt you at all. the sag with the cancer moon ive dealt with for 3 years is the shiznit. he is better than sliced bread.
Posted by ninjafish
So WC when are you and Sutekh getting married anyway?
this wednesday
Posted by DMV
last night on the RHOA reunion. NeNe tweeted "guess which cast member is asking for food and she know she dont need any?"i automatically thought, which member has a tauri placement. Kandi. my coworker is a tauri mars and she cant put the fork down for nuthin.
so tauri moons can put the fork down either?
kandi looks familiar, is she the same kandi who used to sing?
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yup
Posted by ninjafish
So WC when are you and Sutekh getting married anyway?this wednesday
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lol...go head
Posted by everevolvingepithet
Congratulations!
and you're matron of honour😛
Posted by everevolvingepithet
Congratulations!and you're matron of honour😛
I am!
Shit, I can only just fit into my suit!click to expand
no, hun, its a dress! Now shave those legs & dont eat until thursday, i dont want fat people on my special day 🙂
Posted by everevolvingepithet
Congratulations!and you're matron of honour😛
I am!
Shit, I can only just fit into my suit!no, hun, its a dress! Now shave those legs & dont eat until thursday, i dont want fat people on my special day 🙂
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omg me neither lol @ dont eat until thursday
Posted by ninjafish
Can I be the page boy or whatever it is
ring bearer?
Posted by ninjafish
Can I be the page boy or whatever it isring bearer?
Yes 🙂 Thank you DMV
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as long as im not the flower girl
Posted by everevolvingepithet
Congratulations!and you're matron of honour😛
I am!
Shit, I can only just fit into my suit!no, hun, its a dress! Now shave those legs & dont eat until thursday, i dont want fat people on my special day 🙂
omg me neither lol @ dont eat until thursday
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haha. I know, right?
Posted by everevolvingepithet
I guess that helps navigate electro-static but the clean shaven look wouldn't suit me, srs. I haven't fleshed out that much, it's just a bit of a paunch.🙂
i dont care what you call that mount everest on your midsection, just make it disappeare by wednesday or i'll make sure you pass out from lack of oxygen from sucking it in for hours.
Posted by ninjafish
Can I be the page boy or whatever it is
flower girl, but you'll have to kneel lol, i want people to see me, you know. How tall are you, ninja?
Posted by ninjafish
Can I be the page boy or whatever it isring bearer?
Yes 🙂 Thank you DMV
as long as im not the flower girl
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bestman? Sadge is a masculine sign, right?
Posted by ninjafish
So WC when are you and Sutekh getting married anyway?this wednesday
and every humpday can be the anniversary
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and honeymoon, my darling😉
Posted by everevolvingepithet
I guess that helps navigate electro-static but the clean shaven look wouldn't suit me, srs. I haven't fleshed out that much, it's just a bit of a paunch.🙂i dont care what you call that mount everest on your midsection, just make it disappeare by wednesday or i'll make sure you pass out from lack of oxygen from sucking it in for hours.
Thats my girl 🙂
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yes daddy *eagerly looks up*
Posted by everevolvingepithet
Not cool yo. Oxygen=good.
lose the flab then, humpty-dumpty. And lol @ your 'yo'. It cracks me up every time. Hahaha
Posted by ninjafish
Can I be the page boy or whatever it isring bearer?
Yes 🙂 Thank you DMV
as long as im not the flower girl
bestman? Sadge is a masculine sign, right?
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best man? i dont have a 3rd leg
Posted by ninjafish
Can I be the page boy or whatever it isflower girl, but you'll have to kneel lol, i want people to see me, you know. How tall are you, ninja?
I'm a shortass, only 5'4'', but you're a teeny one aren't you? I will roll around on the floor though, don't worry 🙂
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lol @ roll around on the floor. Make sure you wear red, id sure need a red carpet lol. Wow you're tiny too. I dont know what made me think you were tall. Oh yeah, im 5ft nothing. Dont laugh! 😢
Posted by ninjafish
Can I be the page boy or whatever it isring bearer?
Yes 🙂 Thank you DMV
as long as im not the flower girl
bestman? Sadge is a masculine sign, right?
best man? i dont have a 3rd leg
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lol, just wear a dildo then😛
Posted by everevolvingepithet
coocoo cachoo, I'm keeping the beard though.
do you watch the tlc show, rich bride/poor bride? Well, on one episode, this bridezilla actually made the best man to remove all his piercings (including the bull-like nose one) and shave his goatee 10 minutes before the wedding. It was hilarious to watch lol. Some brides take weddings far too serious.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
coocoo cachoo, I'm keeping the beard though.do you watch the tlc show, rich bride/poor bride? Well, on one episode, this bridezilla actually made the best man to remove all his piercings (including the bull-like nose one) and shave his goatee 10 minutes before the wedding. It was hilarious to watch lol. Some brides take weddings far too serious.
Nope, I don't watch much Tv, I've seen a few episodes of that Gypsy one though. Yes, I've seen how anxious and dictatorial brides-to-be can get haha although I can kinda understand why too, as everything has to be on point and perfect and anyone who thinks otherwise is ruining it lol, but then again it's their big day etc so I think it's alright for the most part.
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i meant to watch the gypsy one, but i always forget due to id, i love my killings waay to much lol. Is it interesting? The bridezilla thing is ridiculous to me, they need to relax & enjoy the male strippers on their hen party or w/e it is called. Weddings are for fun & none of that nazi stuff is neccesary imo. Females! I've never seen a groomzilla, wonder if they exist. Or maybe in gay weddings. Is it bride & groom when two dudes get hitched or groom & groom?
Posted by everevolvingepithet
coocoo cachoo, I'm keeping the beard though.do you watch the tlc show, rich bride/poor bride? Well, on one episode, this bridezilla actually made the best man to remove all his piercings (including the bull-like nose one) and shave his goatee 10 minutes before the wedding. It was hilarious to watch lol. Some brides take weddings far too serious.
Nope, I don't watch much Tv, I've seen a few episodes of that Gypsy one though. Yes, I've seen how anxious and dictatorial brides-to-be can get haha although I can kinda understand why too, as everything has to be on point and perfect and anyone who thinks otherwise is ruining it lol, but then again it's their big day etc so I think it's alright for the most part.
i meant to watch the gypsy one, but i always forget due to id, i love my killings waay to much lol. Is it interesting? The bridezilla thing is ridiculous to me, they need to relax & enjoy the male strippers on their hen party or w/e it is called. Weddings are for fun & none of that nazi stuff is neccesary imo. Females! I've never seen a groomzilla, wonder if they exist. Or maybe in gay weddings. Is it bride & groom when two dudes get hitched or groom & groom?
I dunno, I think they probably switch it up as per their individual preferences. Errr, killings? hmm:/ Yeh a nazi wedding doesn't really sound too cool, themed or not. There's probably grooms with straight weddings that have diva moments, I can see some being as anxious or perfectionist about the whole thing as the bride.
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lmao @ diva moments, i can picture it lool. By killings i meant murder cases on id, silly
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Can somebody please explain to me what these two mean?
All I got from reading about 'detriment' is that the planet operates with least strength or w/e & I'm not happy about that lol. I can't get over the fact that even libra (the wussiest sign imho) is doing better than us (aquarius) & we remain bottom scum. How is that even possible? Aquarius is an awesome sign & personally I'm more assertive than the leos and librans I know, so I'm sorry, I DON'T GET IT.
To those with detriment and fall planets, what are your struggles & how does the position manifest itself?
And lastly, I have an aqua sun + scorpio moon, both are 'shitty' positions in astrology, so what does that say about me? I'm fake pissed at the moment 🙂