do men around 30 prefer serious women? advices :)

what is the profile of a woman that men 27-30 like?

i am asking because i have some doubts. i am 27 but as i have written before i look younger.

i am aries, friendly, outgoing , sometimes naive and funny. i have a lot of younger friends.

its very difficult for me to have a boyfriend.

usually younger men are interested in me.

or older - like 35-40 because they can 'mother' me somehow.

i am not very serious even thought i think i am.

here i am talking all the time about some leo.

he has a venus and mars in virgo, moon in sag.

his women as i know were more crazy than me. 2 years ago he has some woman the same age, she was crazy but she was depressed and he didnt want to mother her.

next one he had some months ago when i was abroad (i was also dating someone so it was ok). she was 5 years older than him. very laid back. yoga teacher,choreographer, artist but very strong minded. with some qualifications and phd from a well known university.

so it means he did not have to mother her and did not have to accompany in her life path.



so this leo has the same placements as my father.

maybe that is why i am attracted to him. moreover this leo has descendant in aries so maybe sometimes he likes me by that.

but anyway.

when i asked my mum ( gemini) when met dad, how was she before - she told me she told me she was funny,outgoing, but focused on work and that was sth that my dad appreciated.

but actually i also asked my dad about my mum. and he told me she was very focused on work and serious. she was good looking but serios , she was not 'stupid' she did not appear to be 'light' and stupid.



leo man some months ago liked my 'light' spirit and told me i was funny.was attracted to me in a sexual way. but i do not know. maybe he still perceives me only as afriend because i have something like 'childish nature' or 'childish behaviour', naiveness around me.

i see that men my age or older when searching for women do not seek for a barbie type or a funny smiling woman. they prefer someone serious.

i can be perceived as serious only when i am confident to speak my mind. my first 'aura' is very light and funny.

that is why i connect with younger men. i dont want to date younger people because i dont wanna mother them. i need someone my age or my emotional level to accompany me.

and maybe that is the problem.maybe i am not emotionally mature and men see that. and automatically they bac off leaving me for younger men?

maybe i am just cute and funny. i need to work twice harder to be perceived as intelligent. really.

and i do not know - do venus and mars in virgo people like serious people?

maybe that is why he was encouraging me all the time to study and work? ( leo man) maybe that is why he was always helpful because virgo wants to be helpful and likes intelligent people?



Should i change to be perceived as more intelligent?

what about an inner child, something that everyone carries inside ? usually people perceive this as being naive or stupid.

i dont wanna be a boring always complaining adult...



what do you think?

i need frank answers because i just do not know what to do. maybe i need to change my outfits. my way of speaking to be perceived as more mature.

when my dad told me about my mum being serious it was completny something different than she said.

thanks!!



joanne

drama and antics become more painful to guys as they age, at 27+ they SHOULD be finding it less tolerable."serious" means different to older people though, you dont have to be "serious" you just have to make sure you have something going on in your life. also some guys that age dont want serious as a personality because they're serious all day long at work, so they want someone they can talk to and not feel judged, belittled, etc. you dont have to change to be perceived as intelligent, it will be apparent when you talk about things that interest you.

another question which bothers me even more.

i realised some years ago, maybe 2-1.5 year ago that whenever i step into new environment, new company, ido not take new men as friendsbut i start to perceive them as hypothetical boyfriends.

for instance, i choose someone who is nice to me. starts to invite me. likes me. i like him back and actually i get to deeply with my emotions and sometimes its very hurtful because he does not reprociate my feelings .

but i do not tell him. usually i flirt or sth. i have seen from my behaviour that i am too quick and some men can be scared of me. really.

like even when someoe likes me i am too quick. then i know i 'did sth wrong' because i showed i liked him or sth and i backed off. like twice or 3 times more than him.

i know it may sound immature. still i have this feeling for the Leo man. that is why there is an imbalance. because i need to hide my feelings.

and he'somehow stops me'.

and i dont know because i know its bad.

i am not laid back when i am in a new environment. some girls may appear very relaxed even being single. like without a problem and so one. i can not. i do not how i can change my view of those things?

how can i be more friendly and open to men but d onot get attached easily?

thanks.

joanne

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another question which bothers me even more.

i realised some years ago, maybe 2-1.5 year ago that whenever i step into new environment, new company, ido not take new men as friendsbut i start to perceive them as hypothetical boyfriends.

for instance, i choose someone who is nice to me. starts to invite me. likes me. i like him back and actually i get to deeply with my emotions and sometimes its very hurtful because he does not reprociate my feelings .

but i do not tell him. usually i flirt or sth. i have seen from my behaviour that i am too quick and some men can be scared of me. really.

like even when someoe likes me i am too quick. then i know i 'did sth wrong' because i showed i liked him or sth and i backed off. like twice or 3 times more than him.

i know it may sound immature. still i have this feeling for the Leo man. that is why there is an imbalance. because i need to hide my feelings.

and he'somehow stops me'.

and i dont know because i know its bad.

i am not laid back when i am in a new environment. some girls may appear very relaxed even being single. like without a problem and so one. i can not. i do not how i can change my view of those things?

how can i be more friendly and open to men but d onot get attached easily?

thanks.

joanne

I read this and I just think you're looking for a boyfriend, nothing bad.

yes ilook for a boyfriend. and sometimes it s very hard for me to feel the resistance and rejection. because i automatically back off even from the whole company.

i cant stand for example when someone i like is in the same company and flirts with someoe else being around me.

my friends do not see a problem with that. i see.

am i normal 😆?

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Being perceived as intelligent will attract higher quality men, yes, I do believe that definitely. PERCEIVED is the key word.

I think it depends on the man, but I think generally men are attracted to a fun, and what appears to be light hearted, with a good sense of humor, who shares common interests and goals. I hear that men like and are feel women who smile are more approachable.

What kind of man wants to be with a serious and angry looking debbie downer whos life is constantly flipped upside down, who looks like she’d bring him down into turmoil and her drama? Sounds awful, right?

None of this matters though. You should of course always be yourself, whoever that is.

ding ding ding!

same life goals is important and being humourous, having a sense of humour helps.



but yes be yourself.

Your spending to much time and energy into wanting to change yourself to suit a dude so you can get the gf crown. It smarts of desperation, and guys pick up on that.

Also no two guys are the same. Best way to attract a long term partner is to be your AUTHENTIC self, not some caricature you think they want.



I've met dudes in their late 20s early 30s that just want to play the field. Also met younger dudes looking to be wifed up. Age is just a number.

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I cant stand for example when someone i like is in the same company and flirts with someoe else being around me.

my friends do not see a problem with that. i see.

Your angst is all self created. Just cause your crushing on someone doesn't mean their beholden to be with you. You feeling hurt if they flirt/date someone else is natural but also AVOIDABLE. Don't get so emotionally invested in a crush.

Btw how old are you OP?

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

Mindblown

Do you identify with this or see this happening too?

Did you or any friends have a ball and chain throughout the early-mid twenties?

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Not at all which is why I am mindblown. Maybe we just too poor to get married twice in our lifetime lol

I also live in the south. Way different culture down here.

My dad has been married 7 times lmao...... He keeps saying “welp guys, lets hope this is the last time.” We just roll our eyes 🙄 Like fuck off dad, what’s with the incessant marrying, your whole love life is a complete joke by now. Then has the audacity and lack of self awareness to try to give ME relationship advice when he hasn’t learn from any of his own repeated mistakes. Good ole Aquarius 🤪

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lol your dad the gemini influenced aqua, looking for his twin forever.....

i always thought Elizabth Taylor was gemini inlfuenced...yup. 3rd house sun. lol

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Elizabeth_Taylor

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

Mindblown

Do you identify with this or see this happening too?

Did you or any friends have a ball and chain throughout the early-mid twenties?

😆

Not at all which is why I am mindblown. Maybe we just too poor to get married twice in our lifetime lol

I also live in the south. Way different culture down here.

My dad has been married 7 times lmao...... He keeps saying “welp guys, lets hope this is the last time.” We just roll our eyes 🙄 Like fuck off dad, what’s with the incessant marrying, your whole love life is a complete joke by now. Then has the audacity and lack of self awareness to try to give ME relationship advice when he hasn’t learn from any of his own repeated mistakes. Good ole Aquarius 🤪

lol your dad the gemini influenced aqua, looking for his twin forever.....

i always thought Elizabth Taylor was gemini inlfuenced...yup. 3rd house sun. lol

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Elizabeth_Taylor

My dad doesn’t have a lick of Gemini in him, no placement in Gemini anywhere in his chart. He’s 100% Aquarius, Scorpio, and capricorn. And mostly fixed.

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i dont have a lick of aries...but 😛

oh man too fixed. welll.....that capricorn...

I don't know about others - but as far as i'm concerned... the the people who display a rigid/corporate or funeral type of seriousness turn-me off... 😐

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

Mindblown

Do you identify with this or see this happening too?

Did you or any friends have a ball and chain throughout the early-mid twenties?

😆

Not at all which is why I am mindblown. Maybe we just too poor to get married twice in our lifetime lol

I also live in the south. Way different culture down here.

My dad has been married 7 times lmao...... He keeps saying “welp guys, lets hope this is the last time.” We just roll our eyes 🙄 Like fuck off dad, what’s with the incessant marrying, your whole love life is a complete joke by now. Then has the audacity and lack of self awareness to try to give ME relationship advice when he hasn’t learn from any of his own repeated mistakes. Good ole Aquarius 🤪

lol your dad the gemini influenced aqua, looking for his twin forever.....

i always thought Elizabth Taylor was gemini inlfuenced...yup. 3rd house sun. lol

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Elizabeth_Taylor

My dad doesn’t have a lick of Gemini in him, no placement in Gemini anywhere in his chart. He’s 100% Aquarius, Scorpio, and capricorn. And mostly fixed.

Why try to blame negative qualities on “Gemini” when it’s not there at all, rather than seeing it for what it truly is.

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soooo gemini has no faults? only the 11 other signs?

heyyyy pisces gets drunk, drug addiction and all that other heavy crap.

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

Mindblown

Do you identify with this or see this happening too?

Did you or any friends have a ball and chain throughout the early-mid twenties?

😆

Not at all which is why I am mindblown. Maybe we just too poor to get married twice in our lifetime lol

I also live in the south. Way different culture down here.

My dad has been married 7 times lmao...... He keeps saying “welp guys, lets hope this is the last time.” We just roll our eyes 🙄 Like fuck off dad, what’s with the incessant marrying, your whole love life is a complete joke by now. Then has the audacity and lack of self awareness to try to give ME relationship advice when he hasn’t learn from any of his own repeated mistakes. Good ole Aquarius 🤪

lol your dad the gemini influenced aqua, looking for his twin forever.....

i always thought Elizabth Taylor was gemini inlfuenced...yup. 3rd house sun. lol

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Elizabeth_Taylor

My dad doesn’t have a lick of Gemini in him, no placement in Gemini anywhere in his chart. He’s 100% Aquarius, Scorpio, and capricorn. And mostly fixed.

Why try to blame negative qualities on “Gemini” when it’s not there at all, rather than seeing it for what it truly is.

soooo gemini has no faults? only the 11 other signs?

heyyyy pisces gets drunk, drug addiction and all that other heavy crap.

No, I’m referring to you saying he was a “Gemini influenced aqua” when he had zero Gemini in his chart because I guess it’s impossible for an Aquarian to act as such LOL

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lol i was also going off your other post in the gemini forum about the aquas in your life not long ago.



but yeah i see... i'm a bit slow.

i dont think i can handle a gemini mind...too slow....



but i love gilmore girls...that's a mercury show!!

OP i agree with the others, dont try to change yourself, unless you're with me, then change to fit my desires. thanks!

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

Mindblown

Do you identify with this or see this happening too?

Did you or any friends have a ball and chain throughout the early-mid twenties?

😆

Not at all which is why I am mindblown. Maybe we just too poor to get married twice in our lifetime lol

I also live in the south. Way different culture down here.

My dad has been married 7 times lmao...... He keeps saying “welp guys, lets hope this is the last time.” We just roll our eyes 🙄 Like fuck off dad, what’s with the incessant marrying, your whole love life is a complete joke by now. Then has the audacity and lack of self awareness to try to give ME relationship advice when he hasn’t learn from any of his own repeated mistakes. Good ole Aquarius 🤪

lol your dad the gemini influenced aqua, looking for his twin forever.....

i always thought Elizabth Taylor was gemini inlfuenced...yup. 3rd house sun. lol

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Elizabeth_Taylor

My dad doesn’t have a lick of Gemini in him, no placement in Gemini anywhere in his chart. He’s 100% Aquarius, Scorpio, and capricorn. And mostly fixed.

Why try to blame negative qualities on “Gemini” when it’s not there at all, rather than seeing it for what it truly is.

soooo gemini has no faults? only the 11 other signs?

heyyyy pisces gets drunk, drug addiction and all that other heavy crap.

No, I’m referring to you saying he was a “Gemini influenced aqua” when he had zero Gemini in his chart because I guess it’s impossible for an Aquarian to act as such LOL

lol i was also going off your other post in the gemini forum about the aquas in your life not long ago.



but yeah i see... i'm a bit slow.

i dont think i can handle a gemini mind...too slow....



but i love gilmore girls...that's a mercury show!!

Lorelei has to be a Gemini with Taurus influence and a fire or earth moon (like me) and Rory, a libra or Virgo.

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https://hellogiggles.com/life style /gilmore-girls-character-zodiac-sign/



they have a list.

Cancer is Sookie... lol

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

Mindblown

Do you identify with this or see this happening too?

Did you or any friends have a ball and chain throughout the early-mid twenties?

😆

Not at all which is why I am mindblown. Maybe we just too poor to get married twice in our lifetime lol

I also live in the south. Way different culture down here.

My dad has been married 7 times lmao...... He keeps saying “welp guys, lets hope this is the last time.” We just roll our eyes 🙄 Like fuck off dad, what’s with the incessant marrying, your whole love life is a complete joke by now. Then has the audacity and lack of self awareness to try to give ME relationship advice when he hasn’t learn from any of his own repeated mistakes. Good ole Aquarius 🤪

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lol your Aqua dad finally disproved Astrology

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

Mindblown

Do you identify with this or see this happening too?

Did you or any friends have a ball and chain throughout the early-mid twenties?

😆

Not at all which is why I am mindblown. Maybe we just too poor to get married twice in our lifetime lol

I also live in the south. Way different culture down here.

My dad has been married 7 times lmao...... He keeps saying “welp guys, lets hope this is the last time.” We just roll our eyes 🙄 Like fuck off dad, what’s with the incessant marrying, your whole love life is a complete joke by now. Then has the audacity and lack of self awareness to try to give ME relationship advice when he hasn’t learn from any of his own repeated mistakes. Good ole Aquarius 🤪

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He was forced to do so.

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Where I live, typically men in the 27-30 age range are going through the divorces of their failed marriages (from 18-25), so they revert back to their fuckboy ways because they missed out on it during their 20s.

So essentially a 27-30 year old man is a 16-21 year old man.

I have found that varying levels of education determines a lot about a person’s romantic history and behaviors.

This. They can't seem to accept they are no longer 16-21 and chase after younger women as a result. If women their age don't want them, and they chase after younger, you may want to avoid them. It's like they go through some freaking quarter life crisis.