Evolving in on your Astro Journey.

I see some assholes here that are new to me, but likely been her long enough to learn something valuable. But yet this does not seem like the case. I see them on the sign boards, answering everything from their own perspective spouting out memorized personality descriptions. And I wonder how sad would their life be if they never move passed this?

I started this thread because it was an annoyance I wanted to point out. but idk maybe these people can be helped, share your experience... what astro means to you, which ways do you use it. Give them good examples? so do that, or bitch with me about them, i don't care.

Posted by jukey
It gives me a perspective that has helped me around people, but it's one of many. By no means am I bound to it. In fact, I think it's important to separate from it all once and a while and just get back to some basic level of communication without all the labels and definitions. Just two people in a room getting to know each other.

In other ways, it's fun to have astro in the back of my mind, but never bring it up in conversation. Just let it play out as it will and enjoy the unspoken beauty. I don't like where people take it when it becomes the main focus. I think the attention it gets takes away its potency. I find it best to let it go, drop the vanity and the sense of control you let it have over you, and let it do its own thing. Like the song goes, "If you love somebody(thing), set them free."

That reminds me of Hemingway's iceberg theory. Characters in his stories express a great deal of themselves, but the underlying context and motivations are not revealed except for those who pick up the clues and read between the lines. No one's spelling it out for you.

thats beautifully put, as always. I swear juke... if you were a hotdog!

Interesting perspective.

When I first learned of astrology, I was getting my ass chewed up by a scorpio man. I was in Sasstrology. I told myself then, that if I was still talking about him in a year, I was the problem. A year came and I removed myself from the emotional roller coaster.

I couldnt imagine still pondering over him today. I guess my venus in cap helps me to move on. To initiate something else.
Even with a fixed moon, I dont linger. I cant. Doesnt seem right.

ive had so many men, so many near misses. I meet a man, think that this may be it. But the other foot drops. Doesnt stop me from trying, but it does stop me from trying with the wrong guy.

I thought me and the sag would be fwb forever. Seemed like he was the only man who would be nice to me and give a shit. Thought he would outlast my saturn return but things rightfully and in time ended on a good note.

My saturn return taught me so much about men, women, friendships, and my work life. So much.

Fixes signs have it rough. To never move on? To never grow? To never evolve? Purgatory

I try to give my wisdom to my younger people. Call me what you will, but I have lived what seems to be a hundred lives. So many secrets and stories to tell.

Ah, but some of us must learn in the field.

Posted by DMV
Interesting perspective.

When I first learned of astrology, I was getting my ass chewed up by a scorpio man. I was in Sasstrology. I told myself then, that if I was still talking about him in a year, I was the problem. A year came and I removed myself from the emotional roller coaster.

I couldnt imagine still pondering over him today. I guess my venus in cap helps me to move on. To initiate something else.
Even with a fixed moon, I dont linger. I cant. Doesnt seem right.

ive had so many men, so many near misses. I meet a man, think that this may be it. But the other foot drops. Doesnt stop me from trying, but it does stop me from trying with the wrong guy.

I thought me and the sag would be fwb forever. Seemed like he was the only man who would be nice to me and give a shit. Thought he would outlast my saturn return but things rightfully and in time ended on a good note.

My saturn return taught me so much about men, women, friendships, and my work life. So much.

Fixes signs have it rough. To never move on? To never grow? To never evolve? Purgatory

question: is there anything wrong with accepting the idea that there is no "it"?

Also i would like to say that even with my super sexy Taurus stellium, it is not its goal to stay fixed.... but to build something worth wild, that one can be proud of... brick by brick. but who knows it could be my strategically placed mercurial placements

When I started this journey it was for a simple reason, to work someone out. A part of refusal to believe that a chart would dictate anything by the way people talk about it. The more I learnt the more I realised, hey I was right. Plenty of people are born each day within the same time frame sharing the same charts but what makes them different?

It eventually became unraveling my own chart which was an eye opener to see why I function the way I do. In a way it helped me to solidify a few self beliefs but also striving to be better. It's also somewhat soothing to learn that even though a lot of us share similar placements, there are so many configurations that sets us apart from one another. Not only that but what I consider the major factor to be: our environment.

Now I just don't even try to think about it. It's more fun when things are a mystery and even if I need to know I always remind myself that our natal chart won't always be that blueprint we started out with. Life's more fun when it's a mystery and not looking to in-depth. I've never been one to believe in fate or destiny anyway.

Now? I talk about it, to those that are interested. About as much as I talk about Paganism to people who think being witches are cool. If there's one thing, I prefer people to completely work out their own charts before passing judgement.

edit: gahd so many typing fails.

Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by DMV
Interesting perspective.

When I first learned of astrology, I was getting my ass chewed up by a scorpio man. I was in Sasstrology. I told myself then, that if I was still talking about him in a year, I was the problem. A year came and I removed myself from the emotional roller coaster.

I couldnt imagine still pondering over him today. I guess my venus in cap helps me to move on. To initiate something else.
Even with a fixed moon, I dont linger. I cant. Doesnt seem right.

ive had so many men, so many near misses. I meet a man, think that this may be it. But the other foot drops. Doesnt stop me from trying, but it does stop me from trying with the wrong guy.

I thought me and the sag would be fwb forever. Seemed like he was the only man who would be nice to me and give a shit. Thought he would outlast my saturn return but things rightfully and in time ended on a good note.

My saturn return taught me so much about men, women, friendships, and my work life. So much.

Fixes signs have it rough. To never move on? To never grow? To never evolve? Purgatory

question: is there anything wrong with accepting the idea that there is no "it"?

Also i would like to say that even with my super sexy Taurus stellium, it is not its goal to stay fixed.... but to build something worth wild, that one can be proud of... brick by brick. but who knows it could be my strategically placed mercurial placements

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nothing at all if thats your choice.

I would not be honest if I said I didnt care about or want love. Love is so .....awesome

Ive felt love, intimacy. I want that again.

@DMV I agree about love, to go without it, is to live incomplete. but i'm just asking that the idea that there is one man, or even one type of love.

Personally i think that people give into to this idealistic vision that society says is the role model for our lives. "the one" is is to me language that represents this to me. But i think its sad that people who don't find it in the way, in which they expect, become unsatisfied discontent. and maybe they are just fighting their true path, because they are forcing these ideals onto their selves, from what they envy from other people.

Now i'm not saying all this about you personally, i might know you better than that by now. Just talking in general.

As far as Astro becoming a apart of you....

It is so difficult to unknow something, it all gets stuck in your subconscious and in the middle of a conversation with someone your mind has wondered into perceiving the person and situation through astro. A friend tells me what they did, and automatically I consider how they felt based on what i know their moon to be.

Although it has these great benefits to allow me to see things from other pov's, I also hate this because it does becomes a prejudice. And i do have to fight it, but doing so it becomes this way to remind myself to just be present in that moment.

Posted by Astrobyn
@DMV I agree about love, to go without it, is to live incomplete. but i'm just asking that the idea that there is one man, or even one type of love.

Personally i think that people give into to this idealistic vision that society says is the role model for our lives. "the one" is is to me language that represents this to me. But i think its sad that people who don't find it in the way, in which they expect, become unsatisfied discontent. and maybe they are just fighting their true path, because they are forcing these ideals onto their selves, from what they envy from other people.

Now i'm not saying all this about you personally, i might know you better than that by now. Just talking in general.

I agree. For me its about goal differentiation. If your goal is marriage, hell you are destined to marry the wrong man. If your goals is to have a boyfriend, sorry but you will keep wasting time with the wrong ones. You will ultimately settle for less than what you deserve. You are indeed envious and just tryin to keep up with the Jones.

now, if your goal is love, well then you wont settle for anything less.
I do agree that love comes in many forms. I loved a man for 7 years in the most unusual of circumstances.

I'm sick of all these bitches who don't understand astrology. You should go to my 101 class.

Posted by jukey

Posted by Astrobyn
And i do have to fight it, but doing so it becomes this way to remind myself to just be present in that moment.

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I liked what he said about "I hope I remember it"..
How do you constantly hold on to that feeling, that knowledge, that being.... when life presents so many opportunities to lose it throughout just a day.

Posted by tiziani
I used to say I would use astrology for self-discovery but then I realised that was really just a massive disclaimer. Then I moved onto using astrology for personal gain. That's all I write about nowadays. I think it's more human that way.

you know that seems really open ended and up to interpretation.

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Posted by tiziani
I used to say I would use astrology for self-discovery but then I realised that was really just a massive disclaimer. Then I moved onto using astrology for personal gain. That's all I write about nowadays. I think it's more human that way.

you know that seems really open ended and up to interpretation.

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sex

Posted by aquasnoz

Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by tiziani
I used to say I would use astrology for self-discovery but then I realised that was really just a massive disclaimer. Then I moved onto using astrology for personal gain. That's all I write about nowadays. I think it's more human that way.

you know that seems really open ended and up to interpretation.

sex

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I like the way you think!

Posted by tiziani
I used to say I would use astrology for self-discovery but then I realised that was really just a massive disclaimer. Then I moved onto using astrology for personal gain. That's all I write about nowadays. I think it's more human that way.

Its such a catch 22

Learning through predjudice

Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by aquasnoz

Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by tiziani
I used to say I would use astrology for self-discovery but then I realised that was really just a massive disclaimer. Then I moved onto using astrology for personal gain. That's all I write about nowadays. I think it's more human that way.

you know that seems really open ended and up to interpretation.

sex

I like the way you think!

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Surely I can't be the first to admit I used astrology to get in someone's pants.

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Posted by aquasnoz

Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by tiziani
I used to say I would use astrology for self-discovery but then I realised that was really just a massive disclaimer. Then I moved onto using astrology for personal gain. That's all I write about nowadays. I think it's more human that way.

you know that seems really open ended and up to interpretation.

sex

On top of dirty money.

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omg my taurus mars can't take this.....

welcome back

Posted by tiziani
The last great man show on earth

😐

I basically try to put things in perspective, but I'm nothing like other scorpios. don't get why or how. everything that describes Scorpio for the most part does not describe me. whatsoever. my chart intrigues me due to that fact. I definitely use examples from my life on here, but they're normally out of the norm.

in my own head I'm the defective Scorpio, but I'm pretty grateful for it. I think it shapes me better. I like to think I'm different. I feel like a bad bitch on the low. LOL (not).

Posted by degenerate_ingenue
I basically try to put things in perspective, but I'm nothing like other scorpios. don't get why or how. everything that describes Scorpio for the most part does not describe me. whatsoever. my chart intrigues me due to that fact. I definitely use examples from my life on here, but they're normally out of the norm.

in my own head I'm the defective Scorpio, but I'm pretty grateful for it. I think it shapes me better. I like to think I'm different. I feel like a bad bitch on the low. LOL (not).

So like... you think some men can resist you?

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Posted by degenerate_ingenue
I basically try to put things in perspective, but I'm nothing like other scorpios. don't get why or how. everything that describes Scorpio for the most part does not describe me. whatsoever. my chart intrigues me due to that fact. I definitely use examples from my life on here, but they're normally out of the norm.

in my own head I'm the defective Scorpio, but I'm pretty grateful for it. I think it shapes me better. I like to think I'm different. I feel like a bad bitch on the low. LOL (not).

So like... you think some men can resist you?

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lmao ALL MEN RESIST ME! joking. But I definitely don't feel alluring in any way shape or form. The guys who I tend to attract seem to be mentally unstable. My ex of three years actually was admitted into a psych ward. He really was a nut job tho. Moral of the story is I pick some winners. what can I say.

I've dated a couple Aquas. They were pretty short relationships but we remained friends afterwards. It was kind of like the "wrong timing" type of thing. The guy I dated for three years was a Virgo. Three years of my life wasted. Oh well, at least I learned lessons out of it and very valuable ones at that.

What I find odd is instead of being typical and getting along with water or earth signs, I more so get along with fire and air.... I find it interesting that it is "known" that an Aquarius man and a Scorpio woman could "never work" (obviously theres always the odd ones out) but those were my healthiest relationships even though they were short. One may even potentially rekindle, but I'm kind of like "eh" about it. Just going with the flow. We hit it off at the end of November though when I finally saw him for the first time in awhile. We have always been friends at least, but I have an irrational fear of losing a friend for something as stupid as a crush or a disagreement in a relationship.

Overall when I like someone I bury it and try to push it aside and stay neutral. I've had very few relationships. I basically tell myself "what if they don't like me" or "what if things get weird". I never risk a friendship, because friendship is important to me. I wish I could be the go-getter and confidently win guys I like over, but I typically wait for them to make the first move and if they don't then oh well.

The guys who avidly pursue me are either stage five clingers or mentally unstable weirdos. I'm sure there are some shy ones in the mix who just don't speak up. You never know.