Feeling Hopeless

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this aspect feels like the finger to my sun..to me and .everything I want...

achieving anything...even getting any feedback..

is pulling teeth. "you must try harder" is the theme.

everything is a "no" or no response.

i know its the vibe that pushes others away.

but i cant help but to reach out and show

what I'm really feeling or needing help in.

Sometimes I want to open and share, but that desire

is affected. That desire seems blocked...

More "no's...more silence.. so I should just

tape my mouth and smile not talk about it.

just go through it..

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Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

I tend to the idea that Opposition can be positive at the end. Like: it is not easy but it is a wave you can jump on that rise.

this was generally about the Opposition aspect. My Saturn is in harmony with my mercury and has no aspect to Sun.

BTW what other aspects to Saturn do you have?
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Posted by Aju

Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

I tend to the idea that Opposition can be positive at the end. Like: it is not easy but it is a wave you can jump on that rise.

this was generally about the Opposition aspect. My Saturn is in harmony with my mercury and has no aspect to Sun.

BTW what other aspects to Saturn do you have?
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thank you

i have sun square saturn

I have jupiter square saturn

I have chiron opposite saturn

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Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

Do you have the square or opp, Aju?

its square
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Issues with authority?

Strict father maybe?

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Posted by Aju

Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

Do you have the square or opp, Aju?

its square

Issues with authority?

Strict father maybe?
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i'm sorry . This brings pain.

i can't talk too much about it. but yes..



he looks down on me so much. My granddad too.

father figures I don't even bother getting to know anymore.

there's always been "you should be doing this, you should be doing that"









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Posted by Aju

Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

Do you have the square or opp, Aju?

its square

Issues with authority?

Strict father maybe?

i'm sorry . This brings pain.

i can't talk too much about it. but yes..



he looks down on me so much. My granddad too.

father figures I don't even bother getting to know anymore.

there's always been "you should be doing this, you should be doing that"
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Chiron opp Saturn would confirm this too, sadly......sorry 😥

Do try and talk about it to a trained professional person...i have been studying NLP ... check it out, I think you'd benefit from it if you find a good practitioner.

For now, remember people who look down on others, have huge issues with themselves, it's toxic and painful I know, but you can rise above it. It takes discipline and determination and if you look it as s challenge to overcome, you'll start to eventually feel very liberated. I think the worse thing to do is bury it and let it fester...

(((💙)))
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Posted by Aju
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Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

I tend to the idea that Opposition can be positive at the end. Like: it is not easy but it is a wave you can jump on that rise.

this was generally about the Opposition aspect. My Saturn is in harmony with my mercury and has no aspect to Sun.

BTW what other aspects to Saturn do you have?

thank you

i have sun square saturn

I have jupiter square saturn

I have chiron opposite saturn
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oops. Jupiter? this reminds me of Saturn in Pisces. in both cases faith is restricted. so it feels hopeless.

I guess you have to go through life with an embedded FAITH and hope. Use Mars or Mercury. Use whatever part of you to come to life's good stuff. I have a similar problem with Chiron. My thoughts or words can hurt, at times they heal. So I go through life (as far as I can remember) with a bleeding mind. I noticed this at a variation of work places, and with most of my exams and with persons and groups. My mind was bleeding but I danced and told jokes. the crying clown. So you need to do your life while being hopeless all the time.

quote from tv today, "We feel unfortunate because we cannot see we are fortunate. Later we know more and realize we were happy".
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Posted by greylatern

@Aju

The best way to navigate squares is to accept both sides fully.

For instance. I have Mars square Sun. My sun makes the decision but I will do it my Mar's way or vis versa. I have to trust myself and pay attention to what I'm doing at all times.

In your case, without seeing your chat and more information, I would listen to what they have to say. Talk to them and ask why. Seek understanding.




I also have mars square sun.

I feel it is easier to understand both sides when it's like an opposite

because it's easier to see the contrast energy based off the opposing side.

With a square, there is much more learning for me as the two seem to not have

anything in common and make things worse for each other. I will do my best to

accept both sides though. Yesterday was rough for me, so rough that I was giving up

to a certain extent. How long did it take you to acccept your mars and sun energy?

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Posted by Aju

Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

I tend to the idea that Opposition can be positive at the end. Like: it is not easy but it is a wave you can jump on that rise.

this was generally about the Opposition aspect. My Saturn is in harmony with my mercury and has no aspect to Sun.

BTW what other aspects to Saturn do you have?

thank you

i have sun square saturn

I have jupiter square saturn

I have chiron opposite saturn

oops. Jupiter? this reminds me of Saturn in Pisces. in both cases faith is restricted. so it feels hopeless.

I guess you have to go through life with an embedded FAITH and hope. Use Mars or Mercury. Use whatever part of you to come to life's good stuff. I have a similar problem with Chiron. My thoughts or words can hurt, at times they heal. So I go through life (as far as I can remember) with a bleeding mind. I noticed this at a variation of work places, and with most of my exams and with persons and groups. My mind was bleeding but I danced and told jokes. the crying clown. So you need to do your life while being hopeless all the time.

quote from tv today, "We feel unfortunate because we cannot see we are fortunate. Later we know more and realize we were happy".
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thank you

bless you.



I agree with you and the quote.

I forgot to mention the other aspects to my saturn.

I was heavily frustrated and down so I only focused

on the negative. I'll just post the chart too. @greylatern

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Interesting that you say I must

get through life even when I feel hopeless. It's best to

do that then to contemplate suicide / want to give up.
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Sun square saturn

Moon square saturn

I'm harder on myself than anyone else. I'm my own harshest critic and have struggled in the past with slowing down and pacing myself. I tend to go hard and burn out. I'm learning to let go a bit and find more balance in my life when it comes to work/relaxing/play/self-care. Biggest revelation in the last year, well since last may I'd say.
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Sun square saturn

Moon square saturn

I'm harder on myself than anyone else. I'm my own harshest critic and have struggled in the past with slowing down and pacing myself. I tend to go hard and burn out. I'm learning to let go a bit and find more balance in my life when it comes to work/relaxing/play/self-care. Biggest revelation in the last year, well since last may I'd say.


Thank you.

Do you feel it to be hard to accomplish what you set out to accomplish or even express within yourself? From the outside in it looks like you're doing quite quite well and maybe it has to do with you sticking to a certain routine or structure to abide by this square?
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Welp. Somebody has to feel hopeless. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I have Saturn Trine Sun so can’t relate.

LIARRRRRRRRR

aren't you a 1st house Pluto

We go thru times of feeling extremely hopeless, we just fight out of it like a feral cat trapped in a cage by a 'catch and release' wildlife animal worker

xoxoxoxox
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Lol I’m feral indeed.
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Sun square saturn

Moon square saturn

I'm harder on myself than anyone else. I'm my own harshest critic and have struggled in the past with slowing down and pacing myself. I tend to go hard and burn out. I'm learning to let go a bit and find more balance in my life when it comes to work/relaxing/play/self-care. Biggest revelation in the last year, well since last may I'd say.

Thank you.

Do you feel it to be hard to accomplish what you set out to accomplish or even express within yourself? From the outside in it looks like you're doing quite quite well and maybe it has to do with you sticking to a certain routine or structure to abide by this square?
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I only blew up in the last 3/4 years.

I spent most of my 20s working lost in the shuffle, dismissed cause of my age or lack of experience. But when opportunity struck I took it. Or more importantly, I recognized the opportunity and took it.

Lately my mentality has evolved where I realize it isn't really about the goal but rather the journey towards the goal.

For example I want to buy land and develop. Whether I do or not is a moot point. I'm saving towards that goal and will have the financial freedom to do MORE. Whatever that more is. You feel me?
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Posted by Aju

Does anyone have Sun Square Saturn

or Sun opposite Saturn? What does

this feel like to you and do you have any

tips that has worked for you with this aspect?

[Any other hard aspects to Saturn are welcome too but especially the ones mentioned above].

I tend to the idea that Opposition can be positive at the end. Like: it is not easy but it is a wave you can jump on that rise.

this was generally about the Opposition aspect. My Saturn is in harmony with my mercury and has no aspect to Sun.

BTW what other aspects to Saturn do you have?

thank you

i have sun square saturn

I have jupiter square saturn

I have chiron opposite saturn

oops. Jupiter? this reminds me of Saturn in Pisces. in both cases faith is restricted. so it feels hopeless.

I guess you have to go through life with an embedded FAITH and hope. Use Mars or Mercury. Use whatever part of you to come to life's good stuff. I have a similar problem with Chiron. My thoughts or words can hurt, at times they heal. So I go through life (as far as I can remember) with a bleeding mind. I noticed this at a variation of work places, and with most of my exams and with persons and groups. My mind was bleeding but I danced and told jokes. the crying clown. So you need to do your life while being hopeless all the time.

quote from tv today, "We feel unfortunate because we cannot see we are fortunate. Later we know more and realize we were happy".

thank you

bless you.



I agree with you and the quote.

I forgot to mention the other aspects to my saturn.

I was heavily frustrated and down so I only focused

on the negative. I'll just post the chart too. @greylatern

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Interesting that you say I must

get through life even when I feel hopeless. It's best to

do that then to contemplate suicide / want to give up.
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well, with Scorpio for Moon you would think of suicide even if things were brighter. Death is an interesting subject for Scorpio placements.

let me tell you about my experience with Saturn in transit. It went through my 12th house then my first. for about five years. Ask any Sag you know. It was a difficult time for us. more so with Scorp Jupiter at the end. but now Jupiter is in our first house. we can relax more. there are more good news.

for you next year Jupiter is Cap and you'll see.
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Sun square saturn

Moon square saturn

I'm harder on myself than anyone else. I'm my own harshest critic and have struggled in the past with slowing down and pacing myself. I tend to go hard and burn out. I'm learning to let go a bit and find more balance in my life when it comes to work/relaxing/play/self-care. Biggest revelation in the last year, well since last may I'd say.

Thank you.

Do you feel it to be hard to accomplish what you set out to accomplish or even express within yourself? From the outside in it looks like you're doing quite quite well and maybe it has to do with you sticking to a certain routine or structure to abide by this square?
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I guess it is your Mars in square aspect to your Sun. Sag is a little random. wants to spend energy. The Pisces Mercury and Sun cannot command well to your Mars. The two are a little too inspired-scattered by the Universe.

Also Sag tends to procrastination. I can tell it cause I have this placement.

Just do your best and be happy with the Journey. Pisces Jupiter is a good one. With Neptune in your 12th house and your four Pisces placement I guess you'll be rewarded in ways you don't expect. The whole world loves you and will help you. Even if your Scorp Moon and your Neptunian parts will contribute to your sins and crimes, there's nobody without fault. Sin is ours.
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Posted by LadyNeptune

Sun square saturn

Moon square saturn

I'm harder on myself than anyone else. I'm my own harshest critic and have struggled in the past with slowing down and pacing myself. I tend to go hard and burn out. I'm learning to let go a bit and find more balance in my life when it comes to work/relaxing/play/self-care. Biggest revelation in the last year, well since last may I'd say.

They are very tough placements, bless you ❤️

Difficulties and tensions with parents?

Did you act like a mother to them in some way?