
MyStarsShine
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Posted by TheTinManWhat was home and growing up like Tin ?
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.



Posted by oxSunQueenxoYou would catch that!Posted by LadyNeptuneJuices. 😏
I have my Venus in Taurus in the 4th. Its one of my strongest placements and is prolly where I get most of my creative juices.click to expand



Posted by oxSunQueenxoThat's a very difficult placement, whenever I see either Chiron or Pluto in the 4th it always seems to indicate some kind of abuse or huge difficulties when growing up. 😢. Saturn also can present problems.Posted by june_rFuck. I have Chiron in my 4th House and that description is way too accurate.
When it comes to early home life, Saturn in 4th indicates coldness, limitation, authority, separation and isolation.
Saturn in the 4th house may imply the father is dead or not there for some reason or another, a mother may have taken over the father's role for example and the father can be seen as "missing" because she is now representing structure to the child. This child may learn to work from early due to several reasons like poverty, illness or for having a large family, it could also means the (saturnian) parent works very hard. Regardless of the situation, there was a sense of deprivation on an emotional level. It could be that survival was more important to the parent than showing affection, there was no time for such things. She could have also been emotionally immature. The upbringing and conditioning may have had patterns of rigidity and varying degrees of enforced discipline and control. The child could have felt unloved or unwanted.
According to Reinhart, Chiron in 4th highlights the relationship with the father. May have been experienced as hurtful, wounding or inadequate, relationship may have been fraught with conflict, may have been totally unknown, died or left before the child was born. Also says it brings a theme of incest in the charts of women, a "romance" between father and daughter which creates a pattern later in life by tending to fall in love with unattainable men. If father is the only parent, shows more empathy than the mother, the child may try to fullfill unmet mothering needs through him and later other men. Women can also "marry their mothers", or rather the fantasy of the mother they would have like to have had.click to expand

Posted by SmidgeSorry I meant to say it has to fall in a sign, Aries, Taurus etcPosted by MyStarsShineIt's empty.Posted by Smidge@Smidge
Nothing.
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Posted by TheTinManExactly like me 🙂
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.

Posted by MyStarsShineI have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and roots
Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks

Posted by SmidgeNice ❤️Posted by MyStarsShineLibraPosted by SmidgeSorry I meant to say it has to fall in a sign, Aries, Taurus etcPosted by MyStarsShineIt's empty.Posted by Smidge@Smidge
Nothing.
Which planet is it in ?
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Posted by carrazedaDid you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?Posted by MyStarsShineI have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and roots
Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
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Posted by TheTinManSorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄Posted by pisceswoman123Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.Posted by TheTinManExactly like me 🙂
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
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Posted by TheTinManPosted by pisceswoman123Oh still cool. I got that too.Posted by TheTinManSorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄Posted by pisceswoman123Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.Posted by TheTinManExactly like me 🙂
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
That probably change things
🙂
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Posted by pisceswoman123Where is your fourth house then.....as in which sign ? What you wrote seemed a bit contradictory, Pisces? 🙂Posted by TheTinManSorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄Posted by pisceswoman123Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.Posted by TheTinManExactly like me 🙂
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
That probably change thingsclick to expand

Posted by AerialViewHow would you interp that @AerialView
Empty 4th house Gemini.
I'm happy with that.
Oh and Saturn is in Scorpio 9th, Chiron in Taurus 3rd.

Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pisceswoman123Where is your fourth house then.....as in which sign ? What you wrote seemed a bit contradictory, Pisces? 🙂Posted by TheTinManSorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄Posted by pisceswoman123Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.Posted by TheTinManExactly like me 🙂
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
That probably change thingsclick to expand


Posted by MyStarsShineNot really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!Posted by carrazedaDid you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?Posted by MyStarsShineI have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and roots
Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
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Posted by carrazedaDid I read correctly....Chiron in the 4th ?Posted by MyStarsShineNot really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!Posted by carrazedaDid you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?Posted by MyStarsShineI have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and roots
Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Things were always a bit more difficult with my wider family but even there I was more the one in the middle trying to sort things out.
If there's a wound in my family would be how far away my life is from my parents, not just physical distance but emotional and intelectual distance. It couldn't be more different.click to expand

Posted by hollyhockWhich sign is it in Holly and are there any other hard aspects to it ?
I have Jupiter in my 4th house but my family life is terrible. I definitely don't see Jupiter's benefits here. I wonder if because Neptune is in my 10th house which is opposite my 4th house that Neptune influences my family life.

Posted by MyStarsShineYes conjunct the Moon and the IC!Posted by carrazedaDid I read correctly....Chiron in the 4th ?Posted by MyStarsShineNot really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!Posted by carrazedaDid you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?Posted by MyStarsShineI have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and roots
Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Things were always a bit more difficult with my wider family but even there I was more the one in the middle trying to sort things out.
If there's a wound in my family would be how far away my life is from my parents, not just physical distance but emotional and intelectual distance. It couldn't be more different.click to expand

Posted by carrazedaInteresting....that is the first time I've seen chiron in the 4th without some kind of abuse in the homePosted by MyStarsShineYes conjunct the Moon and the IC!Posted by carrazedaDid I read correctly....Chiron in the 4th ?Posted by MyStarsShineNot really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!Posted by carrazedaDid you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?Posted by MyStarsShineI have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and roots
Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Things were always a bit more difficult with my wider family but even there I was more the one in the middle trying to sort things out.
If there's a wound in my family would be how far away my life is from my parents, not just physical distance but emotional and intelectual distance. It couldn't be more different.
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Posted by MyStarsShineI thought it's you who's gonna do the interpretation for me lolPosted by AerialViewHow would you interp that @AerialView
Empty 4th house Gemini.
I'm happy with that.
Oh and Saturn is in Scorpio 9th, Chiron in Taurus 3rd.click to expand

Posted by AerialViewYour knowledge would be appreciated.....🙂Posted by MyStarsShineI thought it's you who's gonna do the interpretation for me lolPosted by AerialViewHow would you interp that @AerialView
Empty 4th house Gemini.
I'm happy with that.
Oh and Saturn is in Scorpio 9th, Chiron in Taurus 3rd.click to expand


Posted by oxSunQueenxo(((❤️)))Posted by MyStarsShineKnew it. 💔
I have been looking into the charts of both friends and famous people and everyone of them who has Chiron and or Pluto in the 4th has experienced some form of abuse growing up
So far I have checked fourteen charts, three of which belong to famous people
*Pamela Anderson has Chiron in the 4th .. she was molested as a small girl by her babysitter
*Mary Coughlan (singer) has Chiron in the 4th..was sexually abused
*Lorenzo Gilyard (serial killer) .. came from a dysfunctional home ... his father a rapist and his brother a murderer
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Posted by _ggHi gg, how's it going ?
Good morning! Leo moon in 4th house. What do you make of it?
It's never a goof idea to get personal on dxp. And i need sleeep

Posted by TheTinManPost your chart and i will lookPosted by MyStarsShineI don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔
Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
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Posted by NelsonSacramentoPluto in 4th is very transformational in as much as you can learn from it and become strongerPosted by MyStarsShine
I have been looking into the charts of both friends and famous people and everyone of them who has Chiron and or Pluto in the 4th has experienced some form of abuse growing up
So far I have checked fourteen charts, three of which belong to famous people
*Pamela Anderson has Chiron in the 4th .. she was molested as a small girl by her babysitter
*Mary Coughlan (singer) has Chiron in the 4th..was sexually abused
*Lorenzo Gilyard (serial killer) has Chiron in the 4th.... came from a dysfunctional home ... his father a rapist and his brother a murderer
*Nelson Sacramento Pluto in the 4th... past covered in fog, profile unknown.click to expand

Posted by TheTinManAstro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.Posted by MyStarsShineYou want me to post the wheel?Posted by TheTinManPost your chart and i will lookPosted by MyStarsShineI don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔
Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
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Posted by oxSunQueenxoGood luck......are you going to share ?Posted by MyStarsShineNot yet. I'm hoping to find an apartment that's around $ 800 per month to rent...Posted by oxSunQueenxo(((❤️)))Posted by MyStarsShineKnew it. 💔
I have been looking into the charts of both friends and famous people and everyone of them who has Chiron and or Pluto in the 4th has experienced some form of abuse growing up
So far I have checked fourteen charts, three of which belong to famous people
*Pamela Anderson has Chiron in the 4th .. she was molested as a small girl by her babysitter
*Mary Coughlan (singer) has Chiron in the 4th..was sexually abused
*Lorenzo Gilyard (serial killer) .. came from a dysfunctional home ... his father a rapist and his brother a murderer
Did you find somewhere else to live yet Miss ?click to expand

Posted by TheTinManYes I see itPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheTinManAstro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.Posted by MyStarsShineYou want me to post the wheel?Posted by TheTinManPost your chart and i will lookPosted by MyStarsShineI don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔
Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
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Can you see that?
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Posted by TheTinManSorry?Posted by MyStarsShineWhere do you see it at?Posted by TheTinManYes I see itPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheTinManAstro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.Posted by MyStarsShineYou want me to post the wheel?Posted by TheTinManPost your chart and i will lookPosted by MyStarsShineI don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔
Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
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Can you see that?
You don't have Chiron in the 4th, but in the 7th, the house of the other, so the wouding manifests in r.sjhips. You also have Moon Pluto square ... this can indicate an overpowering or possessive mother? It seems you surpress your emotions and hide away but in fact the healing comes through being with others ?
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Posted by TheTinManKo sign in the 7thPosted by MyStarsShineI meant Chiron in the 7th house. Where you see it at on that chart?Posted by TheTinManSorry?Posted by MyStarsShineWhere do you see it at?Posted by TheTinManYes I see itPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheTinManAstro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.Posted by MyStarsShineYou want me to post the wheel?Posted by TheTinManPost your chart and i will lookPosted by MyStarsShineI don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔
Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
![]()
Can you see that?
You don't have Chiron in the 4th, but in the 7th, the house of the other, so the wouding manifests in r.sjhips. You also have Moon Pluto square ... this can indicate an overpowering or possessive mother? It seems you surpress your emotions and hide away but in fact the healing comes through being with others ?
What does it means to surpress my emotions? Yes I hide away. I keep staying hidden. My healing comes thru food.
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Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks