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Planets in the 4th house
What Planets in the Fourth House Reveal About Your Roots
Planets in the fourth house influence your family, home environment, and emotional foundations. Saturn can bring discipline or restrictions, Chiron may indicate healing wounds from childhood, and Pluto can suggest deep transformations related to your family roots and emotional security.
Posted by TheTinMan
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.
What was home and growing up like Tin ?
Gemini in 4th house. A bit chaotic home environment but not that much.
I have my Venus in Taurus in the 4th. Its one of my strongest placements and is prolly where I get most of my creative juices.
Posted by LadyNeptune
I have my Venus in Taurus in the 4th. Its one of my strongest placements and is prolly where I get most of my creative juices.Juices. 😏
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You would catch that!
My 4th house cusp is in Pisces, but the house itself overlaps Aries.
I also have Mars and north node there.
When it comes to early home life, Saturn in 4th indicates coldness, limitation, authority, separation and isolation.
Saturn in the 4th house may imply the father is dead or not there for some reason or another, a mother may have taken over the father's role for example and the father can be seen as "missing" because she is now representing structure to the child. This child may learn to work from early due to several reasons like poverty, illness or for having a large family, it could also means the (saturnian) parent works very hard. Regardless of the situation, there was a sense of deprivation on an emotional level. It could be that survival was more important to the parent than showing affection, there was no time for such things. She could have also been emotionally immature. The upbringing and conditioning may have had patterns of rigidity and varying degrees of enforced discipline and control. The child could have felt unloved or unwanted.
According to Reinhart, Chiron in 4th highlights the relationship with the father. May have been experienced as hurtful, wounding or inadequate, relationship may have been fraught with conflict, may have been totally unknown, died or left before the child was born. Also says it brings a theme of incest in the charts of women, a "romance" between father and daughter which creates a pattern later in life by tending to fall in love with unattainable men. If father is the only parent, shows more empathy than the mother, the child may try to fullfill unmet mothering needs through him and later other men. Women can also "marry their mothers", or rather the fantasy of the mother they would have like to have had.
Posted by june_r
When it comes to early home life, Saturn in 4th indicates coldness, limitation, authority, separation and isolation.Saturn in the 4th house may imply the father is dead or not there for some reason or another, a mother may have taken over the father's role for example and the father can be seen as "missing" because she is now representing structure to the child. This child may learn to work from early due to several reasons like poverty, illness or for having a large family, it could also means the (saturnian) parent works very hard. Regardless of the situation, there was a sense of deprivation on an emotional level. It could be that survival was more important to the parent than showing affection, there was no time for such things. She could have also been emotionally immature. The upbringing and conditioning may have had patterns of rigidity and varying degrees of enforced discipline and control. The child could have felt unloved or unwanted.
According to Reinhart, Chiron in 4th highlights the relationship with the father. May have been experienced as hurtful, wounding or inadequate, relationship may have been fraught with conflict, may have been totally unknown, died or left before the child was born. Also says it brings a theme of incest in the charts of women, a "romance" between father and daughter which creates a pattern later in life by tending to fall in love with unattainable men. If father is the only parent, shows more empathy than the mother, the child may try to fullfill unmet mothering needs through him and later other men. Women can also "marry their mothers", or rather the fantasy of the mother they would have like to have had.
Fuck. I have Chiron in my 4th House and that description is way too accurate.
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That's a very difficult placement, whenever I see either Chiron or Pluto in the 4th it always seems to indicate some kind of abuse or huge difficulties when growing up. 😢. Saturn also can present problems.
Posted by Smidge
Nothing.@Smidge
Which planet is it in ?
It's empty.
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Sorry I meant to say it has to fall in a sign, Aries, Taurus etc
Posted by TheTinMan
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.
Exactly like me 🙂
Posted by MyStarsShine
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and rootsWhich sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
I have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Posted by Smidge
Nothing.@Smidge
Which planet is it in ?
It's empty.
Sorry I meant to say it has to fall in a sign, Aries, Taurus etc
Libra
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Nice ❤️
4th House in Libra
You need a home that’s pleasant and beautiful, and require peace and harmony with your family. If there’s too much chaos, you don’t feel settled in your soul. You need to strike a balance with your home and family and the rest of your life. You can make compromises easily with your family, and may be the mediator. As you get older, you become more charming and graceful, and can use your home as a place that grounds you.
Posted by MyStarsShine
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and rootsWhich sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
I have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
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Did you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?
Venus in 10th or Sun is actually a better house placement than 4th...
More dynamic and sustainable.
Posted by TheTinMan
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.Exactly like me 🙂
Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
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Sorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄
That probably change things
Posted by TheTinMan
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.Exactly like me 🙂
Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
Sorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄
That probably change things
Oh still cool. I got that too.
🙂
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I used to crave discipline 😄 I really wanted to be sent to a boarding school like my brother but my parents didn’t want to get reed of me
Empty 4th house Gemini.
I'm happy with that.
Oh and Saturn is in Scorpio 9th, Chiron in Taurus 3rd.
Posted by TheTinMan
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.Exactly like me 🙂
Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
Sorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄
That probably change things
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Where is your fourth house then.....as in which sign ? What you wrote seemed a bit contradictory, Pisces? 🙂
Posted by AerialView
Empty 4th house Gemini.I'm happy with that.
Oh and Saturn is in Scorpio 9th, Chiron in Taurus 3rd.
How would you interp that @AerialView
Posted by TheTinMan
I got Jupiter in the 4th house and I got Capricorn in the 4th house.Exactly like me 🙂
Cool. Like how was it like for you in the home growing up? I know I'm not the op but I just wanna see if there's a correlation here.
I tend to notice having Capricorn in the 4th house is strict and have a stickler for having rules around the house as they grow older. Not so much a neat freak like say Virgo in the 4th house.
Sorry I just realized that I have Jupiter in capricorn in the fourth house but my 4 house it’s not in cap 🤭 I got it mixed up 😄😄😄
That probably change things
Where is your fourth house then.....as in which sign ? What you wrote seemed a bit contradictory, Pisces? 🙂
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I am contradicting.
Sagittarius
This is mine.....it mentions the word family four times❤️...they have always and will be the most important thing in my life
4th House in Cancer
You feel protective of your family, and need some roots. Your family is important to you, and you absorb much of your home environment into your personality. You like to maintain family traditions, and you try to maintain your relationships with your family members no matter what. As you get older, you need a place to call home, to put down roots and settle down.
*~*~*~*~*
Posted by MyStarsShine
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and rootsWhich sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
I have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Did you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?
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Not really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!
Things were always a bit more difficult with my wider family but even there I was more the one in the middle trying to sort things out.
If there's a wound in my family would be how far away my life is from my parents, not just physical distance but emotional and intelectual distance. It couldn't be more different.
Posted by MyStarsShine
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and rootsWhich sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
I have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Did you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?
Not really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!
Things were always a bit more difficult with my wider family but even there I was more the one in the middle trying to sort things out.
If there's a wound in my family would be how far away my life is from my parents, not just physical distance but emotional and intelectual distance. It couldn't be more different.
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Did I read correctly....Chiron in the 4th ?
I have 5 in Capricorn.
Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune
Family life has always been hectic and confusing
I don't know how it's supposed to manifest
Posted by hollyhock
I have Jupiter in my 4th house but my family life is terrible. I definitely don't see Jupiter's benefits here. I wonder if because Neptune is in my 10th house which is opposite my 4th house that Neptune influences my family life.
Which sign is it in Holly and are there any other hard aspects to it ?
Where is your are Chiron and Pluto ?
Posted by MyStarsShine
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and rootsWhich sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
I have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Did you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?
Not really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!
Things were always a bit more difficult with my wider family but even there I was more the one in the middle trying to sort things out.
If there's a wound in my family would be how far away my life is from my parents, not just physical distance but emotional and intelectual distance. It couldn't be more different.
Did I read correctly....Chiron in the 4th ?
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Yes conjunct the Moon and the IC!
Posted by MyStarsShine
I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and rootsWhich sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks
I have 4th house Gemini Moon and Chiron conjunct with IC. Both opposite Sagittarius Uranus (conjunct with MC).
Also my Moon is square to 1st house Jupiter Pisces - which is my dominant planet and the apex of a t-square with Moon and Uranus.
I'm not really sure what this means. I don't think have bottomed it yet! But I know that one my prominent features is the way I deal with my emotions. I intelectualize them so much some people think I'm a robot. I'm not really, I just feel so much that I have a natural disdain for the raw emotions. So many times they are just the product of an instant, something not meaningful. It's good to let them out but I like to be contained most of the times. Which means that on the good I usually come across as considerate and diplomatic.
I've read some stuff about Chiron and your wounds but I'm not sure if I understand it.
Did you have a difficult time at home, particularly with your mother (Moon) ?
Not really. I always had a very peaceful relation with my parents, in particular with my mom actually. I'm also a Cancer Sun!
Things were always a bit more difficult with my wider family but even there I was more the one in the middle trying to sort things out.
If there's a wound in my family would be how far away my life is from my parents, not just physical distance but emotional and intelectual distance. It couldn't be more different.
Did I read correctly....Chiron in the 4th ?
Yes conjunct the Moon and the IC!
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Interesting....that is the first time I've seen chiron in the 4th without some kind of abuse in the home
Posted by AerialView
Empty 4th house Gemini.I'm happy with that.
Oh and Saturn is in Scorpio 9th, Chiron in Taurus 3rd.
How would you interp that @AerialView
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I thought it's you who's gonna do the interpretation for me lol
Posted by AerialView
Empty 4th house Gemini.I'm happy with that.
Oh and Saturn is in Scorpio 9th, Chiron in Taurus 3rd.
How would you interp that @AerialView
I thought it's you who's gonna do the interpretation for me lol
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Your knowledge would be appreciated.....🙂
I have been looking into the charts of both friends and famous people and everyone of them who has Chiron and or Pluto in the 4th has experienced some form of abuse growing up
So far I have checked fourteen charts, three of which belong to famous people
*Pamela Anderson has Chiron in the 4th .. she was molested as a small girl by her babysitter
*Mary Coughlan (singer) has Chiron in the 4th..was sexually abused
*Lorenzo Gilyard (serial killer) has Chiron in the 4th.... came from a dysfunctional home ... his father a rapist and his brother a murderer
Posted by MyStarsShine
I have been looking into the charts of both friends and famous people and everyone of them who has Chiron and or Pluto in the 4th has experienced some form of abuse growing upSo far I have checked fourteen charts, three of which belong to famous people
*Pamela Anderson has Chiron in the 4th .. she was molested as a small girl by her babysitter
*Mary Coughlan (singer) has Chiron in the 4th..was sexually abused
*Lorenzo Gilyard (serial killer) .. came from a dysfunctional home ... his father a rapist and his brother a murderer
Knew it. 💔
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(((❤️)))
Did you find somewhere else to live yet Miss ?
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔
Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
Posted by _gg
Good morning! Leo moon in 4th house. What do you make of it?It's never a goof idea to get personal on dxp. And i need sleeep
Hi gg, how's it going ?
Attached to home and mother and in Leo maybe from a creative background....music maybe ?
You will always seek emotional security in a home environment and you will feel sensitive around this
Stay away from emotional dramas ... can be easily hurt by people
Posted by MyStarsShine
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
I don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
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Post your chart and i will look
Posted by MyStarsShine
I have been looking into the charts of both friends and famous people and everyone of them who has Chiron and or Pluto in the 4th has experienced some form of abuse growing upSo far I have checked fourteen charts, three of which belong to famous people
*Pamela Anderson has Chiron in the 4th .. she was molested as a small girl by her babysitter
*Mary Coughlan (singer) has Chiron in the 4th..was sexually abused
*Lorenzo Gilyard (serial killer) has Chiron in the 4th.... came from a dysfunctional home ... his father a rapist and his brother a murderer
*Nelson Sacramento Pluto in the 4th... past covered in fog, profile unknown.
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Pluto in 4th is very transformational in as much as you can learn from it and become stronger
Posted by MyStarsShine
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
I don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Post your chart and i will look
You want me to post the wheel?
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
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Astro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.
Posted by MyStarsShine
I have been looking into the charts of both friends and famous people and everyone of them who has Chiron and or Pluto in the 4th has experienced some form of abuse growing upSo far I have checked fourteen charts, three of which belong to famous people
*Pamela Anderson has Chiron in the 4th .. she was molested as a small girl by her babysitter
*Mary Coughlan (singer) has Chiron in the 4th..was sexually abused
*Lorenzo Gilyard (serial killer) .. came from a dysfunctional home ... his father a rapist and his brother a murderer
Knew it. 💔
(((❤️)))
Did you find somewhere else to live yet Miss ?
Not yet. I'm hoping to find an apartment that's around $ 800 per month to rent...
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Good luck......are you going to share ?
Posted by MyStarsShine
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
I don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Post your chart and i will look
You want me to post the wheel?
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
Astro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.
Can you see that?
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Yes I see it
You don't have Chiron in the 4th, but in the 7th, the house of the other, so the wouding manifests in r.sjhips. You also have Moon Pluto square ... this can indicate an overpowering or possessive mother? It seems you surpress your emotions and hide away but in fact the healing comes through being with others ?
Posted by MyStarsShine
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
I don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Post your chart and i will look
You want me to post the wheel?
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
Astro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.
Can you see that?
Yes I see it
You don't have Chiron in the 4th, but in the 7th, the house of the other, so the wouding manifests in r.sjhips. You also have Moon Pluto square ... this can indicate an overpowering or possessive mother? It seems you surpress your emotions and hide away but in fact the healing comes through being with others ?
Where do you see it at?
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Sorry?
Posted by MyStarsShine
Sorry to hear that Tin....that is horrible 😔Create a chart at Astro.com and look and see what's in the 4th
I don't see what house my Chiron is in. All I can see that it's in Aries.
Post your chart and i will look
You want me to post the wheel?
Cus I don't wanna post the wrong thing.
Astro.com wheel, natal chart, yes.
Can you see that?
Yes I see it
You don't have Chiron in the 4th, but in the 7th, the house of the other, so the wouding manifests in r.sjhips. You also have Moon Pluto square ... this can indicate an overpowering or possessive mother? It seems you surpress your emotions and hide away but in fact the healing comes through being with others ?
Where do you see it at?
Sorry?
I meant Chiron in the 7th house. Where you see it at on that chart?
What does it means to surpress my emotions? Yes I hide away. I keep staying hidden. My healing comes thru food.
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Ko sign in the 7th
To keep them buried inside rather than express them
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I am interested in the effects of planets in the 4th house....the house ruling family, home and roots
Which sign is your 4th in and which planets fall there? I am particularly interested in Saturn and asteroid Chiron and what effects those two had when growing up, ie home conditions, parents etc
Edit to add......and Pluto!
Thanks