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Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?

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Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?


Sun square moon is challenging in general, I wonder, and I'd be willing to bet, that it manifests differently among the modalities. For example a leo square scorpio (fixed) will manifest much much differently than pisces square sagg (mutable).

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Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?


Sun square moon is challenging in general, I wonder, and I'd be willing to bet, that it manifests differently among the modalities. For example a leo square scorpio (fixed) will manifest much much differently than pisces square sagg (mutable).

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Yes, i thought with two fixed signs, it would be very challenging

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There's the aspect board for more focusing on astrology. 😄
Thanks, but i prefer it here 😛
I know, but it has become to much messy here. 😐 Hence giving you this board site.
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Thank you, i will remember next time

At least it is an astro based question and not messy silly sexy stuff 😛
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well my man and his cousins have scorpio and leo and they are pretty easy going and are happy people.

so maybe it's something else in the charts or their background/upbringing?

but before, in the past, I could see the darkness and gloominess. (thus all the dark gothic, intense doom metal music) but if they're with someone who gives them happiness, the darkness seems to melt away.

edit -

once in a while we still listen to goth, doom, black metal music, like this,

musician writer is a Pisces sun/Leo moon, but we love all types depending on mood. and it's ART.



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The example I know of is for leo sun and scorp moon. I know of a woman with this aspect and she has an intense desire for adulation in the way that a leo does, so she is kind and magnaminous and gets what she wants, but then her scorp moon side is extremely suspicious of betrayal and causes her to test and test and test the people who she lured in with her warmth. This causes them to be pushed away which is detrimental to her sun, but what her moon needs to know they are trustworthy. But then the sun needs a wide audience but the moon needs intense personal closeness. That is the battle of that square, that I've noticed.
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The example I know of is for leo sun and scorp moon. I know of a woman with this aspect and she has an intense desire for adulation in the way that a leo does, so she is kind and magnaminous and gets what she wants, but then her scorp moon side is extremely suspicious of betrayal and causes her to test and test and test the people who she lured in with her warmth. This causes them to be pushed away which is detrimental to her sun, but what her moon needs to know they are trustworthy. But then the sun needs a wide audience but the moon needs intense personal closeness. That is the battle of that square, that I've noticed.


Jennifer lopez.



she seems so happy and bright...

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The example I know of is for leo sun and scorp moon. I know of a woman with this aspect and she has an intense desire for adulation in the way that a leo does, so she is kind and magnaminous and gets what she wants, but then her scorp moon side is extremely suspicious of betrayal and causes her to test and test and test the people who she lured in with her warmth. This causes them to be pushed away which is detrimental to her sun, but what her moon needs to know they are trustworthy. But then the sun needs a wide audience but the moon needs intense personal closeness. That is the battle of that square, that I've noticed.


Yes.....this is exactly what I mean....hot and cold and the Leo Scorpio combo seems to be the most challenging
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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly
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Yes.....this is exactly what I mean....hot and cold and the Leo Scorpio combo seems to be the most challenging


I dont know if it is or not, I've not been exposed to all cases. I've seen a libra w/aries moon opposition that was also a handful as well, just in a different way.

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I find the square more challenging...this sums it up for me quite well ~

Two planets in 90 degree relationship to each other form a 'square', which means they represent the relationship between innately dissimilar things with little or nothing in common, kinda like 'apples and oranges'.

But when two planets are 180 degrees apart, they form an 'opposition', which means they come from different points of view of essentially common ground, which is also easier to 'reconcile', sorta like appreciating the value of yin and yang, or the opposite polarities of a magnet.

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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly

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My sister, landlady and one of the mothers from school all had it

"walking on eggshells" comes to mind
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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly




My sister, landlady and one of the mothers from school all had it

"walking on eggshells" comes to mind

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Yeah that term was used for both.

Growing up, things like tipping over the toy box would make my dad angry. We always had to be very quiet and pretend not to exist. He's much more relaxed now since all his kids have moved on. But he's still a stress head. :/ i know he's an emotional guy though and has a lot of inner turmoil going on. He's a man of few words.
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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly




My sister, landlady and one of the mothers from school all had it

"walking on eggshells" comes to mind


Yeah that term was used for both.

Growing up, things like tipping over the toy box would make my dad angry. We always had to be very quiet and pretend not to exist. He's much more relaxed now since all his kids have moved on. But he's still a stress head. :/ i know he's an emotional guy though and has a lot of inner turmoil going on. He's a man of few words.
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Leo sun, Scorp moon?

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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly




My sister, landlady and one of the mothers from school all had it

"walking on eggshells" comes to mind


Yeah that term was used for both.

Growing up, things like tipping over the toy box would make my dad angry. We always had to be very quiet and pretend not to exist. He's much more relaxed now since all his kids have moved on. But he's still a stress head. :/ i know he's an emotional guy though and has a lot of inner turmoil going on. He's a man of few words.
Leo sun, Scorp moon?



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Yep ? stressful combo
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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly




My sister, landlady and one of the mothers from school all had it

"walking on eggshells" comes to mind


Yeah that term was used for both.

Growing up, things like tipping over the toy box would make my dad angry. We always had to be very quiet and pretend not to exist. He's much more relaxed now since all his kids have moved on. But he's still a stress head. :/ i know he's an emotional guy though and has a lot of inner turmoil going on. He's a man of few words.
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Yep ? stressful combo

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Very

It must have been very difficult for you growing up

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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly




My sister, landlady and one of the mothers from school all had it

"walking on eggshells" comes to mind


Yeah that term was used for both.

Growing up, things like tipping over the toy box would make my dad angry. We always had to be very quiet and pretend not to exist. He's much more relaxed now since all his kids have moved on. But he's still a stress head. :/ i know he's an emotional guy though and has a lot of inner turmoil going on. He's a man of few words.
Leo sun, Scorp moon?





Yep ? stressful combo


Very

It must have been very difficult for you growing up



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What are the stories of the girls with this combo?

When I found out my old manager had the same combo as my dad. I had a huge eureka moment. They were both so similar lol
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Mine is Leo sun Square Scorpio moon. It can be difficult at times, but manageable. Walking on egg shells could be quite true, because its hard to tell what will bring what out of me. Generally I'm a pretty down to earth and passive thanks to a Taurus mars that is also square to sun, and opposite moon that kind of sits in the middle and gives no fucks.


And you have Cancer rising soul, which would soften the square I guess? 🙂
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Getting a little pissed off with the non astrology threads being posted here....

So.....



Does anyone have any thoughts on Sun Square moon in the chart

The people i have known with this aspect have proved to be difficult, kind of somewhat bitter and unreasonable

Three women i have dealt with have Leo sun square their moon in Scorpio ~ very tense and uptight. All three of them have reputations for being difficult, so i wonder if this aspect is very challenging?



My dad and old manager have this combo.

My dad was always very stressed growing up. And everyone at my old job called my manager "stompy" lol

I always chalked it up to being two very fiery signs. Both signs don't treat things lightly




My sister, landlady and one of the mothers from school all had it

"walking on eggshells" comes to mind


Yeah that term was used for both.

Growing up, things like tipping over the toy box would make my dad angry. We always had to be very quiet and pretend not to exist. He's much more relaxed now since all his kids have moved on. But he's still a stress head. :/ i know he's an emotional guy though and has a lot of inner turmoil going on. He's a man of few words.
Leo sun, Scorp moon?





Yep ? stressful combo


Very

It must have been very difficult for you growing up




What are the stories of the girls with this combo?

When I found out my old manager had the same combo as my dad. I had a huge eureka moment. They were both so similar lol
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Oh god....poor you

The women were all tense, neurotic and very tough on their kids. 😢
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Mine is Leo sun Square Scorpio moon. It can be difficult at times, but manageable. Walking on egg shells could be quite true, because its hard to tell what will bring what out of me. Generally I'm a pretty down to earth and passive thanks to a Taurus mars that is also square to sun, and opposite moon that kind of sits in the middle and gives no fucks.


And you have Cancer rising soul, which would soften the square I guess? 🙂

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Very true.
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our Leo sun aunty is a Scorpio moon, and she's married long term, happily with a Pisces sun/Pisces stellium actually. and she doesn't have a hard time, that we think of. Although she probably internalizes a lot of her problems and it comes out badly, like when you hold in all your problems, and then it becomes "cancer" the disease. Like, she worries a lot. She worries even after 35 years of marriage that even after getting cancer the disease, that her pisces sun husband doesn't love her. But she knows he does. he loves very very deeply. And she cried in the past, how it's been awful for her to not help him when she got cancer. and it weakened her ability to help/aid him in the farming. IT's so sad and my mother in law was there to support/help them during their dark times. Im glad it's over.
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Whether this square occurs in cardinal, fixed or mutable signs is significant. Mutable squares only require an adjustment in thinking or mind-set; they tell you that you need to change your mind about something. Cardinal squares require suitable activity, or for you to alter or stop the way you are doing things. Fixed squares, on the other hand, are the hardest to handle because they represent your will, which is far harder to change or to surrender than your mind (mutable) or your behavior (cardinal).

http://www.myastrologybook.com/Sun-square-Moon-quarter-moon-natal-horoscope.htm


Yes

Thanks for posting this 🙂
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our Leo sun aunty is a Scorpio moon, and she's married long term, happily with a Pisces sun/Pisces stellium actually. and she doesn't have a hard time, that we think of. Although she probably internalizes a lot of her problems and it comes out badly, like when you hold in all your problems, and then it becomes "cancer" the disease. Like, she worries a lot. She worries even after 35 years of marriage that even after getting cancer the disease, that her pisces sun husband doesn't love her. But she knows he does. he loves very very deeply. And she cried in the past, how it's been awful for her to not help him when she got cancer. and it weakened her ability to help/aid him in the farming. IT's so sad and my mother in law was there to support/help them during their dark times. Im glad it's over.
Sad to read Lisa

She must have been having a very hard time inside poor woman

My Leo sun Scorpio moon sister died of cancer and told me *i brought this on myself*. The poor woman was very tense, she held within her a lot of hatred for people



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Aries sun square Cancer moon

I feel like I don't belong anywhere

Too masculine or too feminine...

If I wish to express my masculine side, I lose my feminine side and feel exhausted and insecure. If I'm expressing the feminine, I feel incomplete, dissatisfied and out of place in the end.

I self-censor myself all the time

Something inside me just won't let me be

I've never been able to clearly and comprehensibly describe this aspect... I feel that it's so fully internalized into the subconscious, that it's hard to really "see" it. Unlike other aspects I have and view as distinct qualities within my personality, this one is an aspect I can fully identify myself with. As though it dominates all the rest

*exhales deeply*. This stuff makes me vulnerable
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Aries sun square Cancer moon

I feel like I don't belong anywhere

Too masculine or too feminine...

If I wish to express my masculine side, I lose my feminine side and feel exhausted and insecure. If I'm expressing the feminine, I feel incomplete, dissatisfied and out of place in the end.

I self-censor myself all the time

Something inside me just won't let me be

I've never been able to clearly and comprehensibly describe this aspect... I feel that it's so fully internalized into the subconscious, that it's hard to really "see" it. Unlike other aspects I have and view as distinct qualities within my personality, this one is an aspect I can fully identify myself with. As though it dominates all the rest

*exhales deeply*. This stuff makes me vulnerable
Thanks for posting

Sounds very challenging 😢

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our Leo sun aunty is a Scorpio moon, and she's married long term, happily with a Pisces sun/Pisces stellium actually. and she doesn't have a hard time, that we think of. Although she probably internalizes a lot of her problems and it comes out badly, like when you hold in all your problems, and then it becomes "cancer" the disease. Like, she worries a lot. She worries even after 35 years of marriage that even after getting cancer the disease, that her pisces sun husband doesn't love her. But she knows he does. he loves very very deeply. And she cried in the past, how it's been awful for her to not help him when she got cancer. and it weakened her ability to help/aid him in the farming. IT's so sad and my mother in law was there to support/help them during their dark times. Im glad it's over.
Sad to read Lisa

She must have been having a very hard time inside poor woman

My Leo sun Scorpio moon sister died of cancer and told me *i brought this on myself*. The poor woman was very tense, she held within her a lot of hatred for people



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oh my god really? I'm sorry to hear that.

I hope our aunty isn't like that. She doesn't seem like the type. She is so very jolly and happy, and very generous. She has a good life, and a great husband. I don't think she could have asked for more than that, and a great family that also is close to her.
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our Leo sun aunty is a Scorpio moon, and she's married long term, happily with a Pisces sun/Pisces stellium actually. and she doesn't have a hard time, that we think of. Although she probably internalizes a lot of her problems and it comes out badly, like when you hold in all your problems, and then it becomes "cancer" the disease. Like, she worries a lot. She worries even after 35 years of marriage that even after getting cancer the disease, that her pisces sun husband doesn't love her. But she knows he does. he loves very very deeply. And she cried in the past, how it's been awful for her to not help him when she got cancer. and it weakened her ability to help/aid him in the farming. IT's so sad and my mother in law was there to support/help them during their dark times. Im glad it's over.
Sad to read Lisa

She must have been having a very hard time inside poor woman

My Leo sun Scorpio moon sister died of cancer and told me *i brought this on myself*. The poor woman was very tense, she held within her a lot of hatred for people



😢


oh my god really? I'm sorry to hear that.

I hope our aunty isn't like that. She doesn't seem like the type. She is so very jolly and happy, and very generous. She has a good life, and a great husband. I don't think she could have asked for more than that, and a great family that also is close to her.
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Glad she is okay now Lisa

My sis was married to a Pisces man too....he was very good to her

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our Leo sun aunty is a Scorpio moon, and she's married long term, happily with a Pisces sun/Pisces stellium actually. and she doesn't have a hard time, that we think of. Although she probably internalizes a lot of her problems and it comes out badly, like when you hold in all your problems, and then it becomes "cancer" the disease. Like, she worries a lot. She worries even after 35 years of marriage that even after getting cancer the disease, that her pisces sun husband doesn't love her. But she knows he does. he loves very very deeply. And she cried in the past, how it's been awful for her to not help him when she got cancer. and it weakened her ability to help/aid him in the farming. IT's so sad and my mother in law was there to support/help them during their dark times. Im glad it's over.
Sad to read Lisa

She must have been having a very hard time inside poor woman

My Leo sun Scorpio moon sister died of cancer and told me *i brought this on myself*. The poor woman was very tense, she held within her a lot of hatred for people



😢


oh my god really? I'm sorry to hear that.

I hope our aunty isn't like that. She doesn't seem like the type. She is so very jolly and happy, and very generous. She has a good life, and a great husband. I don't think she could have asked for more than that, and a great family that also is close to her.
Glad she is okay now Lisa

My sis was married to a Pisces man too....he was very good to her

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people say that, if you hold in your anger and hatred, you are accumulating a lot of putrid energy inside which causes cancer.

I wonder how much truth is that??

the only thing that I think that she might be jealous of, is that her cappy sister and her brothers are well traveled, and she remains in the farm all the time. But it is against their religion to indulge in that. I wonder though. would a person feel the pang of jealousy for their sister/brothers when she stays home all year every year? and going to church ritually? And when the family visits, they talk about their travels and send her postcards everywhere. Does she dream of going off somewhere?

maybe not.
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also that must have been hard that your own sister told you that you brought it on yourself. why say that on her deathbed? did she hate you, Star?? when you said she held a lot of hatred of other people?
She said she brought the cancer on herself Lisa

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aw. 😢

that was so honest and harsh on herself.

I was just looking up stuff on hatred and holding onto anger.



http://www.positivelypositive.com/2015/05/22/do-you-hold-on-to-hate-2/

As this saying by an unknown wise soul goes,

“Hating someone makes them important. Forgiving them makes them obsolete.” ~Unknown

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When you hold hate in your heart for someone you are giving them your time and attention. You are elevating their status and gifting them prime real estate in your mind. From a therapeutic standpoint, you also, most likely have unfinished business with them. When an emotional injury or painful situation is not processed properly or honored appropriately, it continues to draw energy from you.

People come in and out of our lives for different purposes and periods of time. Everyone can be a teacher if you are willing to learn. Some lessons are more painful than others but all have the power to add to your evolution. By processing a painful loss or betrayal you are mining that experience for the gold it holds so you can let go of the rest. (And get your brain space back!)

In my therapy practice I have seen clients who have become so identified with their role as the victim, that their entire story becomes about the person they say they ‘hate.’ Please think about your own life, are you doing this with a person or situation? If you are unsure ask your friends…trust me…they will tell you. First, I want to encourage you to forgive yourself for holding onto the negative feeling or allowing yourself to stay victimized long after the situation was over. Secondly, I want to encourage you to release the person, people or situation that has been sucking up your resources. Often the word forgiveness kicks up feelings of resistance. As if forgiving means condoning. I am purposefully using the word release instead so there is no confusion about who is benefitting from your hard work.

I have said it before and I will say it again: Forgiveness is for the FORGIVER.

You deserve to be free, emotionally. You deserve happiness, health and joy. And while no one may be able to experience a state of bliss all the time it is possible to experience it more by releasing negative thoughts about people and past events that keep you stuck. Retraining your mind to focus on what feels good might take a little time, so let’s begin right now with a simple statement that can help you realign your thinking.

Next time a memory of pain or anger comes to mind, simply say, silently or aloud, “I release you” and visualize yourself free. This is called a thought interruption or thought stopper and is used to interrupt habitual negative thought patterns. You may have to do this many times a day, yet the more often you can consciously interrupt your thoughts from spiraling downward into hate, the happier you’ll be. Do this for yourself because what was done is in the past. You have the power to not let the past ruin the present or dictate the future.

In the comments below please share your thoughts on hate vs releasing (or forgiveness). Do you have any forgiveness tips or stories you could share? Having support around releasing hate can be very powerful and make a big difference. Be sure to surround yourself during this time with the people (and pets) you love. Share with them your mission to release your pain and let them help steer you towards the joy you deserve.

Releasing is one more way for you to, as always, take care of you.

Love Love Love