What placements make a person femme fatale (Page 5)

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Posted by lisabethur8

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Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

i agree with u here. they dont need to tell everyone.. infact they dont even know it themselves that they are....

the name was already given to them.



but i think OP wants to see the responses. maybe that was her intention. and it got over 300 replies.

I don’t normally remember people or can link users back to their previous threads, but I recall this user created a thread drenched in jealousy, insecurity and condescension about Aqua women not being good in bed or so she was told by some guy friend of hers. I forewent participation in that thread but she got called out on her insecurity in that thread as well.

which insecurity ? friends of mine told me that i don't know how aquarius women are but i've only heard they are cold superficial and even when in a relationship they are very platonic almost never wanna have sex from saggy's who were married with them they said with everything else they were the perfect wife but when it came to sex they lacked passion and warmth.

What’s your curiosity with Aqua women’s libido? Are you bisexual and interested in an Aqua woman or was it just a thread you made to put down Aqua women as prudish? The content of that thread was pure angst against Aqua women.

You’re a pretty woman and there’s no doubt about that, but you reek of insecurity with the kind of posts you make and even the pics you have posted up. You derive your sense of worth or another person’s sense of worth from how physically desirable they are. If you deny it, you’re just deluding yourself and showing me that you truly are not self-aware. That makes you just a pretty face with no substance. The mere fact that you glorified yourself over breaking hearts and others pining for you speaks volume about your personality. Looks will fade as you mentioned somewhere, so work on that personality.

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reminds me of an old astrologer, who passed away in her 70s a few years back, Nancy Fenn...rest in peace..

she wrote on Aquarius woman and Aries man (For aries man...she will be the BEST you ever had)

but she will destroy you in a way (lol)

i didnt understand that really... like the way she wrote it, is that he will be mentally crazy for her. lol

it made me LOL. i used to think, god that astrologer hated aquarius women ....but it really wasn't like that at all.... (perspectives change and u see things differently)





edit



Melania Trump IMO is a femme fatale ;p



and also Marla maples..





they could easily destroy Donald Trump...but he's good to them at least with alimony $ $ $ $

and also taking care of them ..u see?? ;p

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by edgelord

what exactly is wrong with being a hooker? many give it away for free, making fools of themselves. a hooker at least gets what she wants out of it as well. that seems more intelligent than just being slutty.

actually don't respond i don't want to argue this shit.

@whorpio i can see why you attacked her. jfc.

i don't know in what reality you live, any woman can earn money with being a hooker nothing intelligent about that rather stupid hookers don't have to use their brain they just fck.

doesn't require much brain function since men are simple and easy.

the only thing i disagree is that...you really really underestimate men. lol

(saying they are simple and stupid..)

holy shit u did NOT just say that. a man's brain is one of the BIGGEST organs there is on his person LOL



but there is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to make a living out of being a prositute though.

there's few countries that LEGALIZE it. too bad it's not legal everywhere 😛

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i may overreacted there lol but what i mean is we both use our brain but women differently that's why we see more details and men don't that's why we worry more we process way more then men do in general.

men would say we women are difficult but we are the once that are better and sharper when it comes to remembering things we also know how to make better decisions etc.

Men are easy to fall for temptation and think less when it comes to having affairs for example with us theirs emotions involved if not we need a lot of time before we do such thing.

If a man sees boobs or ass they are easily pursued by it just like cavemen. i don't say all men are like that btw

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

i agree with u here. they dont need to tell everyone.. infact they dont even know it themselves that they are....

the name was already given to them.



but i think OP wants to see the responses. maybe that was her intention. and it got over 300 replies.

I don’t normally remember people or can link users back to their previous threads, but I recall this user created a thread drenched in jealousy, insecurity and condescension about Aqua women not being good in bed or so she was told by some guy friend of hers. I forewent participation in that thread but she got called out on her insecurity in that thread as well.

which insecurity ? friends of mine told me that i don't know how aquarius women are but i've only heard they are cold superficial and even when in a relationship they are very platonic almost never wanna have sex from saggy's who were married with them they said with everything else they were the perfect wife but when it came to sex they lacked passion and warmth.

What’s your curiosity with Aqua women’s libido? Are you bisexual and interested in an Aqua woman or was it just a thread you made to put down Aqua women as prudish? The content of that thread was pure angst against Aqua women.

You’re a pretty woman and there’s no doubt about that, but you reek of insecurity with the kind of posts you make and even the pics you have posted up. You derive your sense of worth or another person’s sense of worth from how physically desirable they are. If you deny it, you’re just deluding yourself and showing me that you truly are not self-aware. That makes you just a pretty face with no substance. The mere fact that you glorified yourself over breaking hearts and others pining for you speaks volume about your personality. Looks will fade as you mentioned somewhere, so work on that personality.

reminds me of an old astrologer, who passed away in her 70s a few years back, Nancy Fenn...rest in peace..

she wrote on Aquarius woman and Aries man (For aries man...she will be the BEST you ever had)

but she will destroy you in a way (lol)

i didnt understand that really... like the way she wrote it, is that he will be mentally crazy for her. lol

it made me LOL. i used to think, god that astrologer hated aquarius women ....but it really wasn't like that at all.... (perspectives change and u see things differently)





edit



Melania Trump IMO is a femme fatale ;p



and also Marla maples..





they could easily destroy Donald Trump...but he's good to them at least with alimony $ $ $ $

and also taking care of them ..u see?? ;p

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i care a lot for a man when i love him but when he tries to destroy me it's another story i can destroy men but i don't want to because that would make me bitter and as other people would say manipulative which i am not.

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by edgelord

what exactly is wrong with being a hooker? many give it away for free, making fools of themselves. a hooker at least gets what she wants out of it as well. that seems more intelligent than just being slutty.

actually don't respond i don't want to argue this shit.

@whorpio i can see why you attacked her. jfc.

i don't know in what reality you live, any woman can earn money with being a hooker nothing intelligent about that rather stupid hookers don't have to use their brain they just fck.

doesn't require much brain function since men are simple and easy.

the only thing i disagree is that...you really really underestimate men. lol

(saying they are simple and stupid..)

holy shit u did NOT just say that. a man's brain is one of the BIGGEST organs there is on his person LOL



but there is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to make a living out of being a prositute though.

there's few countries that LEGALIZE it. too bad it's not legal everywhere 😛

i may overreacted there lol but what i mean is we both use our brain but women differently that's why we see more details and men don't that's why we worry more we process way more then men do in general.

men would say we women are difficult but we are the once that are better and sharper when it comes to remembering things we also know how to make better decisions etc.

Men are easy to fall for temptation and think less when it comes to having affairs for example with us theirs emotions involved if not we need a lot of time before we do such thing.

If a man sees boobs or ass they are easily pursued by it just like cavemen. i don't say all men are like that btw

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i used to be like that when younger because i had to survive i was on my own at age 17 never let men pay my bills but i did let them spoil me every now and then even if i could have gotten more out of it like living with them having a comfortable home and money but i choose to be strong enough to stand my own ground because i didn't like to depend on a men. I have told myself if i ever end up single and i may have a bitter phase in life i would take everything that would be handed to me simply because i feel i deserve it.

Even if it is to date multiple men at the same time and take the pleasure no string attached nothing wrong with that right ? but the thing i always have is that they want more after a while and then i have to break it off to avoid drama.

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

i agree with u here. they dont need to tell everyone.. infact they dont even know it themselves that they are....

the name was already given to them.



but i think OP wants to see the responses. maybe that was her intention. and it got over 300 replies.

I don’t normally remember people or can link users back to their previous threads, but I recall this user created a thread drenched in jealousy, insecurity and condescension about Aqua women not being good in bed or so she was told by some guy friend of hers. I forewent participation in that thread but she got called out on her insecurity in that thread as well.

which insecurity ? friends of mine told me that i don't know how aquarius women are but i've only heard they are cold superficial and even when in a relationship they are very platonic almost never wanna have sex from saggy's who were married with them they said with everything else they were the perfect wife but when it came to sex they lacked passion and warmth.

What’s your curiosity with Aqua women’s libido? Are you bisexual and interested in an Aqua woman or was it just a thread you made to put down Aqua women as prudish? The content of that thread was pure angst against Aqua women.

You’re a pretty woman and there’s no doubt about that, but you reek of insecurity with the kind of posts you make and even the pics you have posted up. You derive your sense of worth or another person’s sense of worth from how physically desirable they are. If you deny it, you’re just deluding yourself and showing me that you truly are not self-aware. That makes you just a pretty face with no substance. The mere fact that you glorified yourself over breaking hearts and others pining for you speaks volume about your personality. Looks will fade as you mentioned somewhere, so work on that personality.

reminds me of an old astrologer, who passed away in her 70s a few years back, Nancy Fenn...rest in peace..

she wrote on Aquarius woman and Aries man (For aries man...she will be the BEST you ever had)

but she will destroy you in a way (lol)

i didnt understand that really... like the way she wrote it, is that he will be mentally crazy for her. lol

it made me LOL. i used to think, god that astrologer hated aquarius women ....but it really wasn't like that at all.... (perspectives change and u see things differently)





edit



Melania Trump IMO is a femme fatale ;p



and also Marla maples..





they could easily destroy Donald Trump...but he's good to them at least with alimony $ $ $ $

and also taking care of them ..u see?? ;p

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Agreed on Marla Maple and Melania. With all the women at his disposal, the mere fact that he married those two is sufficient to claim them FF. I don’t know if they can destroy him. They were able to lure him but I don’t know about leaving him in ruins.

As for destroying men, women can easily do it, if she’s intelligent. Logic is unfortunately a rarity to be found in a woman and a woman who isn’t controlled by her emotions is the one to watch out for.

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

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Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

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Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise. They see gold diggers coming a mile away... pump and dump is revenge.

While femme fatales are more independent, unconventional women... most don't prize their pussy like a key to love. They dgaf... which is where most of the "power" is... not gaf.

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

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The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

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Nothing is kept in the dark because my sex life is none of their business if we are not in a relationship and we're using condoms. It's none of their business. If they wanted to know more about me before they fucked me then they should get to know me first. If not, that's that ass - literally.

@aquarius09,

Imma lay it on the line 'cause I ain't fronting for nobody. I'm married and my hubby has read my diary. No secrets.

The men that got hurt were used to having power over women ( which is normal) and used to an emotional woman who's heart is located in her pussy.

I crushed player, unpremeditatedly. Rather, they played themselves. Young and old

I"ve watched men scheme on me.

I fucked when I wanted to and their schemes did not matter. So, I laughed inside and sipped my scotch. I cussed, slapped, and they begged for more.

Any questions, come with it?

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

Nothing is kept in the dark because my sex life is none of their business if we are not in a relationship and we're using condoms. It's none of their business. If they wanted to know more about me before they fucked me then they should get to know me first. If not, that's that ass - literally.

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That’s great and dandy. What direction are you going with this? Simply put, a femme fatale is a woman who tries to “achieve her hidden purpose by using feminine wiles such as beauty, charm, and sexual allure. In some situations, she uses lies or coercion rather than charm.” This definition is not up for debate. It is what it is. Nobody gives a shit how people want to play with the semantics of this term to their favour. Sexual liberation is a small portion of this term. At the heart of this term is a woman who is an opportunist. In what world is an opportunist a good person? A shameless one. Anyone who is standing up and defending this concept or the likes is very clearly morally bankrupt.

Posted by VenusAquarius

@aquarius09,

Imma lay it on the line 'cause I ain't fronting for nobody. I'm married and my hubby has read my diary. No secrets.

The men that got hurt were used to having power over women ( which is normal) and used to an emotional woman who's heart is located in her pussy.

I crushed player, unpremeditatedly. Rather, they played themselves. Young and old

I"ve watched men scheme on me.

I fucked when I wanted to and their schemes did not matter. So, I laughed inside and sipped my scotch. I cussed, slapped, and they begged for more.

Any questions, come with it?

I had an idea this post is where it was going. But you need to understand that NOBODy here is discussing your lifestory and whatever it is you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. I don’t know you and I never asked you to divulge your personal matter to me. I frankly don’t even care to know. I don’t understand why women can’t discuss a concept without projecting themselves to turn a concept that is very blatantly insidious or malicious to mean something positive. It’s not about sexual liberation. It’s a lot more than that.

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

Nothing is kept in the dark because my sex life is none of their business if we are not in a relationship and we're using condoms. It's none of their business. If they wanted to know more about me before they fucked me then they should get to know me first. If not, that's that ass - literally.

That’s great and dandy. What direction are you going with this? Simply put, a femme fatale is a woman who tries to “achieve her hidden purpose by using feminine wiles such as beauty, charm, and sexual allure. In some situations, she uses lies or coercion rather than charm.” This definition is not up for debate. It is what it is. Nobody gives a shit how people want to play with the semantics of this term to their favour. Sexual liberation is a small portion of this term. At the heart of this term is a woman who is an opportunist. In what world is an opportunist a good person? A shameless one. Anyone who is standing up and defending this concept or the likes is very clearly morally bankrupt.

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You don't tell me what's up for debate or not. The number of pages should tell you otherwise. There are historical figures called femme fatales. They did not kill or physically hurt a man. They just call theme murders.

You don't get to decide if I'm morally bankrupt. I'm 44 years old and know exactly who am.

You don't get to decide what people "give a shit about" either.

List some "hidden purposes."

What physical harm?

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Posted by VenusAquarius

@aquarius09,

Imma lay it on the line 'cause I ain't fronting for nobody. I'm married and my hubby has read my diary. No secrets.

The men that got hurt were used to having power over women ( which is normal) and used to an emotional woman who's heart is located in her pussy.

I crushed player, unpremeditatedly. Rather, they played themselves. Young and old

I"ve watched men scheme on me.

I fucked when I wanted to and their schemes did not matter. So, I laughed inside and sipped my scotch. I cussed, slapped, and they begged for more.

Any questions, come with it?

I had an idea this post is where it was going. But you need to understand that NOBODy here is discussing your lifestory and whatever it is you tell yourself to make yourself feel better. I don’t know you and I never asked you to divulge your personal matter to me. I frankly don’t even care to know. I don’t understand why women can’t discuss a concept without projecting themselves to turn a concept that is very blatantly insidious or malicious to mean something positive. It’s not about sexual liberation. It’s a lot more than that.

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It's more than that? Tell me specifically what it is?

Very few people know each other here and divulge their personal life on here. Even have their spouses and friends post.

I feel great. I never posted some sad love story online or conplained about the dating world, when will I get married, etc.

You should have known where this post was going because I clearly said, "any questions, come with it" Duh.

Trying to get you to be more direct and less passive-agressive with the "nobody..." and shite.

@aquarius09, the only women that fit your definition of femme fatale is a GOLD DIGGER.

Which is suspected of women who use terms such as "quality man," or concerned with status like you.

Some so extreme to kill a man for insurance policy, marry a man she doesn't love for "status" and cheat on him for dick, marry a sickly or old man waiting for him to die, cheating his kids out the will, having babies for child support... I could go on and on.

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

Nothing is kept in the dark because my sex life is none of their business if we are not in a relationship and we're using condoms. It's none of their business. If they wanted to know more about me before they fucked me then they should get to know me first. If not, that's that ass - literally.

That’s great and dandy. What direction are you going with this? Simply put, a femme fatale is a woman who tries to “achieve her hidden purpose by using feminine wiles such as beauty, charm, and sexual allure. In some situations, she uses lies or coercion rather than charm.” This definition is not up for debate. It is what it is. Nobody gives a shit how people want to play with the semantics of this term to their favour. Sexual liberation is a small portion of this term. At the heart of this term is a woman who is an opportunist. In what world is an opportunist a good person? A shameless one. Anyone who is standing up and defending this concept or the likes is very clearly morally bankrupt.

You don't tell me what's up for debate or not. The number of pages should tell you otherwise. There are historical figures called femme fatales. They did not kill or physically hurt a man. They just call theme murders.

You don't get to decide if I'm morally bankrupt. I'm 44 years old and know exactly who am.

You don't get to decide what people "give a shit about" either.

List some "hidden purposes."

What physical harm?

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Actually I will tell you what’s up for debate and what’s not because you’re engaging me and I decide when to walk away and there’s a shut down right there. Go right ahead and create definitions of your own. Nobody gives a shit.

You sound mentally disturbed to me solely by the fact that you brought your life style into this. All I wanted to do was discuss the concept on how inherently wrong it is for a person to behave this way, men or women. Like I said before, this word is very clearly defined. It is not up for debate on how you or anyone else wants to use it in their favour.

I don’t know where you were going with your life story, but if you’re trying to tell me that you’re a definition of femme fatale, then congratulations! You’re a disgusting human being. I don’t know who likes opportunists? Certainly not me.

Good day to you buddy! I love these types of post because users reveal themselves in what they promote.

Why are people equating a "femme fatale" with murdering or physically harming a man?

Posted by VenusAquarius

@aquarius09, the only women that fit your definition of femme fatale is a GOLD DIGGER.

Which is suspected of women who use terms such as "quality man," or concerned with status like you.

Some so extreme to kill a man for insurance policy, marry a man she doesn't love for "status" and cheat on him for dick, marry a sickly or old man waiting for him to die, cheating his kids out the will, having babies for child support... I could go on and on.

WTF are you on about? Do you have me confused with another dxpuser? I never once said I’m concerned with status or used the word “quality man.”

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by VenusAquarius

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Waterbearerwearer

Posted by aquarius09

Posted by Yodi

Posted by dewiklaessen26

Posted by Yodi

@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

Nothing is kept in the dark because my sex life is none of their business if we are not in a relationship and we're using condoms. It's none of their business. If they wanted to know more about me before they fucked me then they should get to know me first. If not, that's that ass - literally.

That’s great and dandy. What direction are you going with this? Simply put, a femme fatale is a woman who tries to “achieve her hidden purpose by using feminine wiles such as beauty, charm, and sexual allure. In some situations, she uses lies or coercion rather than charm.” This definition is not up for debate. It is what it is. Nobody gives a shit how people want to play with the semantics of this term to their favour. Sexual liberation is a small portion of this term. At the heart of this term is a woman who is an opportunist. In what world is an opportunist a good person? A shameless one. Anyone who is standing up and defending this concept or the likes is very clearly morally bankrupt.

You don't tell me what's up for debate or not. The number of pages should tell you otherwise. There are historical figures called femme fatales. They did not kill or physically hurt a man. They just call theme murders.

You don't get to decide if I'm morally bankrupt. I'm 44 years old and know exactly who am.

You don't get to decide what people "give a shit about" either.

List some "hidden purposes."

What physical harm?

Actually I will tell you what’s up for debate and what’s not because you’re engaging me and I decide when to walk away and there’s a shut down right there. Go right ahead and create definitions of your own. Nobody gives a shit.

You sound mentally disturbed to me solely by the fact that you brought your life style into this. All I wanted to do was discuss the concept on how inherently wrong it is for a person to behave this way, men or women. Like I said before, this word is very clearly defined. It is not up for debate on how you or anyone else wants to use it in their favour.

I don’t know where you were going with your life story, but if you’re trying to tell me that you’re a definition of femme fatale, then congratulations! You’re a disgusting human being. I don’t know who likes opportunists? Certainly not me.

Good day to you buddy! I love these types of post because users reveal themselves in what they promote.

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You can certainly exit this thread that has become a debate but the debate will go on. So, no. You don't control that.

Read my post history, I don't hide shit. Like I told you... no secrets thus, no reveal. There are members here who knew me when I was single... you are niave and your scope of reality is narrow. Idgaf. I can't tell you how little.

I'm glad you told me who you are 'cause now I can tell you who I think you are ~clap, clap~

I think you are a narrow-minded, comtolling, tight-assed, status seeking gold digger who lacks a drop of seduction. And, that's why you are on this topic. You also sound bitter and dry due to being jaded from life and romance. And, men can smell it on.

I better see you attack men so feverently for this so called "behavior."

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@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

Nothing is kept in the dark because my sex life is none of their business if we are not in a relationship and we're using condoms. It's none of their business. If they wanted to know more about me before they fucked me then they should get to know me first. If not, that's that ass - literally.

That’s great and dandy. What direction are you going with this? Simply put, a femme fatale is a woman who tries to “achieve her hidden purpose by using feminine wiles such as beauty, charm, and sexual allure. In some situations, she uses lies or coercion rather than charm.” This definition is not up for debate. It is what it is. Nobody gives a shit how people want to play with the semantics of this term to their favour. Sexual liberation is a small portion of this term. At the heart of this term is a woman who is an opportunist. In what world is an opportunist a good person? A shameless one. Anyone who is standing up and defending this concept or the likes is very clearly morally bankrupt.

You don't tell me what's up for debate or not. The number of pages should tell you otherwise. There are historical figures called femme fatales. They did not kill or physically hurt a man. They just call theme murders.

You don't get to decide if I'm morally bankrupt. I'm 44 years old and know exactly who am.

You don't get to decide what people "give a shit about" either.

List some "hidden purposes."

What physical harm?

Actually I will tell you what’s up for debate and what’s not because you’re engaging me and I decide when to walk away and there’s a shut down right there. Go right ahead and create definitions of your own. Nobody gives a shit.

You sound mentally disturbed to me solely by the fact that you brought your life style into this. All I wanted to do was discuss the concept on how inherently wrong it is for a person to behave this way, men or women. Like I said before, this word is very clearly defined. It is not up for debate on how you or anyone else wants to use it in their favour.

I don’t know where you were going with your life story, but if you’re trying to tell me that you’re a definition of femme fatale, then congratulations! You’re a disgusting human being. I don’t know who likes opportunists? Certainly not me.

Good day to you buddy! I love these types of post because users reveal themselves in what they promote.

You can certainly exit this thread that has become a debate but the debate will go on. So, no. You don't control that.

I think you are a narrow-minded, comtolling, tight-assed, status seeking gold digger who lacks a drop of seduction. And, that's why you are on this topic. You also sound bitter and dry due to being jaded from life and romance. And, men can smell it on.

I better see you attack men so feverently for this so called "behavior."

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LMAO! Oh Lord, I have all the self-proclaimed femme fatales of DXP upset. Sorry internet badgirls! LOL!

I feel entertained yet very sad for myself for killing 20 mins of my life engaging you. The mere fact that you called me a gold digger after my sharing my viewpoints on this concept tells me that you didn’t read or at least comprehend a single thing I said. Thanks for that assessment of me. I thoroughly enjoyed reading that though. Not even joking on that.

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@aquarius09, the only women that fit your definition of femme fatale is a GOLD DIGGER.

Which is suspected of women who use terms such as "quality man," or concerned with status like you.

Some so extreme to kill a man for insurance policy, marry a man she doesn't love for "status" and cheat on him for dick, marry a sickly or old man waiting for him to die, cheating his kids out the will, having babies for child support... I could go on and on.

WTF are you on about? Do you have me confused with another dxpuser? I never once said I’m concerned with status or used the word “quality man.”

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Excuse me.... "TOP SHELF man."

And I quote...

"What’s important is if you’re able to capture a top shelf man/womam. If you’re getting sissies and mama’s boys falling head over heels and killing themself over ya, you ain’t nothing special and vice versa for men."

@aquarius09



It was my turn. Remember, you called me "disgusting."

I feel sad for you too. Need to be looking for that "top shelf man."

Oh, is the debate over? Cause I asked you some questions Prudence.

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@aquarius09, the only women that fit your definition of femme fatale is a GOLD DIGGER.

Which is suspected of women who use terms such as "quality man," or concerned with status like you.

Some so extreme to kill a man for insurance policy, marry a man she doesn't love for "status" and cheat on him for dick, marry a sickly or old man waiting for him to die, cheating his kids out the will, having babies for child support... I could go on and on.

WTF are you on about? Do you have me confused with another dxpuser? I never once said I’m concerned with status or used the word “quality man.”

Excuse me.... "TOP SHELF man."

And I quote...

"What’s important is if you’re able to capture a top shelf man/womam. If you’re getting sissies and mama’s boys falling head over heels and killing themself over ya, you ain’t nothing special and vice versa for men."

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This is the last I’m going to entertain you to prove to you why you’re not worth my time.

You ASSUMED that I mean affluence/money status from my usage of term “top shelf.” In fact your interpretation/misinterpretation was reveal when you said I talked about “quality man.” Hence why I was confused as to when I used that word. Anyone who knows me on dxp knows that I abhor people who assume, take things out of context to the point of displaying reading comprehension. You have it all that annoys me. Bye.

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@aquarius09, the only women that fit your definition of femme fatale is a GOLD DIGGER.

Which is suspected of women who use terms such as "quality man," or concerned with status like you.

Some so extreme to kill a man for insurance policy, marry a man she doesn't love for "status" and cheat on him for dick, marry a sickly or old man waiting for him to die, cheating his kids out the will, having babies for child support... I could go on and on.

WTF are you on about? Do you have me confused with another dxpuser? I never once said I’m concerned with status or used the word “quality man.”

Excuse me.... "TOP SHELF man."

And I quote...

"What’s important is if you’re able to capture a top shelf man/womam. If you’re getting sissies and mama’s boys falling head over heels and killing themself over ya, you ain’t nothing special and vice versa for men."

This is the last I’m going to entertain you to prove to you why you’re not worth my time.

You ASSUMED that I mean affluence/money status from my usage of term “top shelf.” In fact your interpretation/misinterpretation was reveal when you said I talked about “quality man.” Hence why I was confused as to when I used that word. Anyone who knows me on dxp knows that I abhor people who assume, take things out of context to the point of displaying reading comprehension. You have it all that annoys me. Bye.

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Nope. I've read your posts seen your picture, remember your good-bye...

So, excuse me if I don't find your "Bye" sincere.

I remember you Prudence. You are a very judgemental, narrow-minded, controlling, tight-assed, status seeking gold digger who lacks a drop of seduction.

I remember you the same way you remember dewiklaessen26...

"...previous threads, but I recall this user created a thread drenched in jealousy, insecurity and condescension about Aqua women not being good in bed or so she was told by some guy friend of hers. I forewent participation in that thread but she got called out on her insecurity in that thread as well.

So, you recall that about her and I recall you too.

And no one gives a shit what you "abhor" madame Prudence dear.

You're right...I will readily admit you are wasting time with me. I love sucking up your time.

Muaaaah. Keep it coming.

Why didn't you answer my question though?

I'll repost them.

In the meantime, define "top shelf" for me

My impression of you comes from you history here... quality, top shelf...

I also said your use of those words are perception.

Google "modern day femme fatale." cause someone taught me how to use Google

1) Meriam -Webster Dictionary

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/femme fatale

Definition of femme fatale

plural femmes fatales play \ˌfem-fə-ˈtal(z), ˌfam-, -ˈtäl(z)\

: a seductive woman who lures men into dangerous or compromising situations

: a woman who attracts men by an aura of charm and mystery

2. Collins Dictionary

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/femme-fatale

If a woman has a reputation as a femme fatale, she is considered to be very attractive sexually, and likely to cause problems for any men who are attracted to her.

3) http://www.entitymag.com/10-traits-modern-femme-fatale/

When you think of the classic femme fatale, traits of seduction, mystery and danger come to mind. These lustful, powerful, in-control women often are portrayed as leading men to their destruction. It is the sexual deviancy of the femme fatale that makes her the rebellious figure, lashing against traditional domesticity. While the archetype dates back to the age of Cleopatra,  what does it mean to be a femme fatale in the 21st century?

4) https://www.quora.com/Is-femme-fatale-a-sexist-term

Q: Is-femme-fatale-a-sexist-term?

A: Not at all! It's just a term for a woman who for lack of a better term 'kicks ass'! Characters like The Bride or Sarah Connor set examples of how women can be way more badass than men. If anything, they are against sexist notions.

5) From Wikipedia... half-quoted and apparently half-read in this thread. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_fatale

A. One traditional view portrays the femme fatale as a sexual vampire; her charms leech the virility and independence of lovers, leaving them shells of themselves.

B. The poem inspired the 1913 eponymous film The Vampire by Robert Vignola starring Alice Hollister, sometimes cited as the first "vamp" movie.[10] Like much of Kipling's verse it became very popular, and its refrain: "A fool there was...", describing a seduced man, became the title of the popular 1915 film A Fool There Was that made Theda Bara a star. The poem was used in the publicity for the film. On this account, in the American slang of the era the femme fatalewas called a vamp, short for vampire.

C. The Monk was greatly admired by the Marquis de Sade, for whom the femme fatale symbolised not evil, but all the best qualities of Women; his novel Juliette is perhaps the earliest wherein the femme fatale triumphs.

D. The novel À rebours by Joris-Karl Huysmans includes these fevered imaginings about an image of Salome in a Moreau painting:

"No longer was she merely the dancing-girl who extorts a cry of lust and concupiscence from an old man by the lascivious contortions of her body; who breaks the will, masters the mind of a King by the spectacle of her quivering bosoms, heaving belly and tossing thighs; she was now revealed in a sense as the symbolic incarnation of world-old Vice, the goddess of immortal Hysteria, the Curse of Beauty supreme above all other beauties by the cataleptic spasm that stirs her flesh and steels her muscles, – a monstrous Beast of the Apocalypse, indifferent, irresponsible, insensible, poisoning."

— Joris-Karl Huysmans, À rebours, Sisters of Salome

E. Another enduring icon of glamour, seduction, and moral turpitude is Margaretha Geertruida Zelle, 1876–1917. While working as an exotic dancer, she took the stage name Mata Hari. Although she may have been innocent, she was accused of German espionage and was put to death by a French firing squad. After her death she became the subject of many sensational films and books.

6. Urban Dictionary

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=femme fatale

A. "Another word for femme fatale is vamp; due to the fact that the femme fatale is often a sexual vampire, the term "vamp" stuck when introduced by the silent movies. 

B. They are often much stronger and more cunning characters than their foils; the often inept damsel in distress and the sweet, fawn-eyed, but naive ingenue.

C"#vamp#cocktease#temptress#sexy#virgin#ingenue"

Now,

Looky, looky...

I wonder who reads.

Who reads books?

Who's jealous?

Who's a liar?

Who comprehends?

Is language fluid or static?

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@dewiklaessen26 you are beautiful and I get the point you was trying to make.

❤️ Thank you i didn't mean to sound like someone manipulative if that's what people think..I'm purely looking from an astrological point not everybody understands that 😙

No worries hun.. I didn't take it like that at all.

Confidence gets misconstrued as arrogance on this forum 24/7. If what you was trying to explain is that you were a playa back in the day then I'm not mad at you. Men do it all the time.

So Play on playa 😉

FYI confidence is silent. Confident people don’t need to self-praise themselves. They know what they have and get and others see it. Therefore, they need not vocalize it. However, arrogance is is overconfidence masking extreme insecurity. The ones who call people like that out aren’t hating. They are just seeing right through the facade and calling it out. Cleopatra was a femme fatale with powerful men wrapped around her fingers and she didn’t go around flaunting it either. Everyone around her knew it and she knew it.

In fact, true femme fatales know the kind of sociopathic degenerates they are who use men as a means to an end, and so they actually never own up to their insidious nature/intentions. They actually deceive and hide that aspect. SMH @ self-proclaimed anything and people who use astrology/aspects to justify deceptive and poor behaviour.

Just wondering why can’t she own who she is?

Why is it ok for men to hi five each other when they get another notch in their belts but women will malign and prejudice a person who describes herself as a femme fatale?

With all beef aside Aqua09 isn’t your whole premise on observation astrology supplanted in identifying behavioural traits most consistent with astrological placements?

That’s a bit pot kettle saying we shouldn’t justify behaviours based on those variables. It is an Astro chat forum.

I see that arrogance and confidence are stymied by the same root emotion which is fear. Maybe OP has a reason to want to dominate men.

Maybe OP didn’t have regular care givers and forms attachments through her sex. Either that or the poor women becomes locked away in her own flesh prison. Just examples not saying this is the case.

Sociopath is a big call too. Very slippery slope. We all have sociopathetic tendencies. We all fall along the spectrum it’s part of being human.

This isn’t justification this is what happens at times regardless of astrology but to call it deceptive or insinuate it’s wrong in a society that upholds the male dominant construct is just adding to the issue.

Women and children are the most exploited groups of humans on earth.

These days it’s about creating durable attachments so women can be omnipresent in their lives. I think if we all say OP is wrong we are creating a space where she won’t recognise what’s right and amazing about herself which negates any kind of progress.

Anyways I’m not fighting you Aqua we just think very different.

Now this is a good post from you. I will address this.

Yes, my brand of astrology or what I believe in is exactly what you said. Having said that, the interest I took in this post is not from an astrological standpoint. If you notice I didn’t offer my two cents on what placement would make one a femme fatale. I took an interest in it because I know what femme fatale means in French and I was disgusted that a person would take pride in being one. I would feel that same disgust if a guy came on this website and bragged about how many women he used for whatever benefit or overall being an opportunist. I don’t condone poor behaviour no matter what ones background/upbringing was. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. I know people who come from the most destitute background who faced various tribulations, but they don’t use that as an excuse for poor behaviour. These people are resilient and overcame their situation. Anyway, I’m not a person who support people who get stuck in a cycle of self-victimization. I agree with the other things you said however I don’t why you’re playing the role of keyboard psychiatrist and assessing why the OP is the way she is. I couldn’t care less why any dxp user is the way they are. I just go by what the post says and respond.

Femme Fatale does not necessitate poor behavior and if the behavior is poor, it's not because of a man.

Any sexual liberation was and is seen as "poor" behavior.

As Lou Salome in my example was considered an immoral woman for living and loving three men while breaking their hearts because she didn't want to marry them while continuing an occassional affairs with other men.

You value status. Would that make you of the "gold digger" category of femme fatale? I don't know but, I know that men hate that and those women are anti-seducers because they are loathed by men.

It is contrived, not natural and co-dependent. Not seductive, naturally or otherwise.

The context of the usage of that term here did though. I’m all for sexual liberation as long as nobody is kept in the dark and no deception is used.

Nothing is kept in the dark because my sex life is none of their business if we are not in a relationship and we're using condoms. It's none of their business. If they wanted to know more about me before they fucked me then they should get to know me first. If not, that's that ass - literally.

That’s great and dandy. What direction are you going with this? Simply put, a femme fatale is a woman who tries to “achieve her hidden purpose by using feminine wiles such as beauty, charm, and sexual allure. In some situations, she uses lies or coercion rather than charm.” This definition is not up for debate. It is what it is. Nobody gives a shit how people want to play with the semantics of this term to their favour. Sexual liberation is a small portion of this term. At the heart of this term is a woman who is an opportunist. In what world is an opportunist a good person? A shameless one. Anyone who is standing up and defending this concept or the likes is very clearly morally bankrupt.

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she doesn't give a shit. is what the definition is... brave and foolish.

and LACKING SHAME.... lol



Shameless HUSSY 😛



to be honest there's alot of women who have TOO much shame to do that. ;p so it's good that we have alot of good women out there. 😄



femme fatale

noun plural femmes fatales (fam fatal, English ˈfɛm fəˈtælz, -ˈtɑːlz)

an alluring or seductive woman, esp one who causes men to love her to their own distress



noun, plural femmes fa·tales [fem fuh-talz, -tahlz, fey-; French fam fa-tal] /ˌfɛm fəˈtælz, -ˈtɑlz, feɪ-; French fam faˈtal/.

an irresistibly attractive woman, especially one who leads men into difficult, dangerous, or disastrous situations; siren.



and she ain't Little Mermaid either LOL





i have capricorn so i have TOO much shame 😛 so me good girl. xd haha.

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what exactly is wrong with being a hooker? many give it away for free, making fools of themselves. a hooker at least gets what she wants out of it as well. that seems more intelligent than just being slutty.

actually don't respond i don't want to argue this shit.

@whorpio i can see why you attacked her. jfc.

i don't know in what reality you live, any woman can earn money with being a hooker nothing intelligent about that rather stupid hookers don't have to use their brain they just fck.

doesn't require much brain function since men are simple and easy.

the only thing i disagree is that...you really really underestimate men. lol

(saying they are simple and stupid..)

holy shit u did NOT just say that. a man's brain is one of the BIGGEST organs there is on his person LOL



but there is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to make a living out of being a prositute though.

there's few countries that LEGALIZE it. too bad it's not legal everywhere 😛

i may overreacted there lol but what i mean is we both use our brain but women differently that's why we see more details and men don't that's why we worry more we process way more then men do in general.

men would say we women are difficult but we are the once that are better and sharper when it comes to remembering things we also know how to make better decisions etc.

Men are easy to fall for temptation and think less when it comes to having affairs for example with us theirs emotions involved if not we need a lot of time before we do such thing.

If a man sees boobs or ass they are easily pursued by it just like cavemen. i don't say all men are like that btw

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men get BORED easily.... well alot of them do ..