Who will be the next POTUS? The Scorpio or the Gemini? (Page 2)

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I think their natal charts don't matter aside from their influence on transits for their success because most high-level politicians are so rehearsed, planned out and controlled by others, that their real selves are irrelevant.

I think even Trump's lack of tact and eloquence is a strategically crafted persona.


I mostly agree, except not about Trump's crafted persona. He was ridiculous prior the running and we know that from seeing him on his tv show.
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Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
Each person has offered to bring things we need and I can't vote til that time. Its too many indecisive moments right now. Must be retrograde bullshit.
Clinton should really be on her game this month, she's in her element during Merc Retrograde. With the debate in 4 weeks, she'll be hardcore Scorpreparing and Donald will be way more of a mess than usual since his Sun's ruler is in disarray. She wants to destroy him in true Scorpio style .

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate.amp.html?client=ms-android-metropcs-us
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im not from the US but between a scorpio and gemini i think its likelier to be a scorpio because jupiter will be going into scorpio in oct 2017 and that year scorpio's will be luckier.
Yes, but the elections are this year and Jupiter is about to move to Libra this month, that is Hillary's 12th house, which is not a favourable position for Jupiter to be in, whilst it will be in Trump's 5th house, its fellow air sign energy, so it should be better for him.
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Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
Each person has offered to bring things we need and I can't vote til that time. Its too many indecisive moments right now. Must be retrograde bullshit.
Clinton should really be on her game this month, she's in her element during Merc Retrograde. With the debate in 4 weeks, she'll be hardcore Scorpreparing and Donald will be way more of a mess than usual since his Sun's ruler is in disarray. She wants to destroy him in true Scorpio style .

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate.amp.html?client=ms-android-metropcs-us
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I doubt it.

If anything Trump should be able to destroy Hillary with ease on any debate. First of all, he is a Gemini, an air sign, on that quality alone his basic debating skills should be superior to any water sign politician's ,water signs are usually not that great at debating anyway.

Second, Merc rx would actually help Trump more than it could damage him. Merc rx is a period where people can go back and "repair" whatever they said in the past, so this should offer Trump the advantage of 'explaining' better what he means when he made those 'insensitive' comments he gets so much backlash for, and in fact he is already doing so, if you have followed his latest speeches, he has been clarifying and apologizing a lot for the way he said some things and how it could have hurt some people, its a smart strategy which is working out well for him.

Third, Donald Trump's weird speech patterns are actually very Merc-Retro-esque, so Merc being retrograde right now would probably make it easier for everybody to understand him better than he would be if Merc was in direct motion, since everyone is affected one way or another by Merc rx, people will be more in-tune with more "unconventional" speaking style s.

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Rothschilds chose the Scorp. Your choice means nothing.
This is why even if the Clinton murderer theories are true.. I wouldn't hold her accountable. Seems likely that the probable elites behind the curtain would be responsible.

Anything in her chart indicate she's vulnerable to being a puppet or similar situation? Anyone?

Doesn't she have Pluto in the 2nd house?

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Tough to say because her birth time is questionable.
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im not from the US but between a scorpio and gemini i think its likelier to be a scorpio because jupiter will be going into scorpio in oct 2017 and that year scorpio's will be luckier.
Yes, but the elections are this year and Jupiter is about to move to Libra this month, that is Hillary's 12th house, which is not a favourable position for Jupiter to be in, whilst it will be in Trump's 5th house, its fellow air sign energy, so it should be better for him.
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Yes, but you're talking solar houses.. Which.. Idk.. Lots of people don't take seriously. Not like personal houses based off Asc.
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@BoomShakalakaBoom ..Have you watched him debate? He rambles and rants like a drunk orangutan..


Trust me, he's gonna be prepared, very prepared. There's a difference between Trump's incoherent ramblings at his rallies and Trump making speeches where he actually prepared, watch and see the difference.

I expect him to destroy Hillary. Do not forget Hillary is not a great debater either.
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im not from the US but between a scorpio and gemini i think its likelier to be a scorpio because jupiter will be going into scorpio in oct 2017 and that year scorpio's will be luckier.
Yes, but the elections are this year and Jupiter is about to move to Libra this month, that is Hillary's 12th house, which is not a favourable position for Jupiter to be in, whilst it will be in Trump's 5th house, its fellow air sign energy, so it should be better for him.
Yes, but you're talking solar houses.. Which.. Idk.. Lots of people don't take seriously. Not like personal houses based off Asc.
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Fair enough, but not taking solar transits seriously would equate negating the importance of someone's sun sign, which ultimately, for better or for worse..is his/her true core.

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Actually Trump's campaign only gets better, have you seen how many people he gets at his rallies? Thats the reason he hasnt stop rallying, whereas Hillary is resting on her laurels at the moment and not doing much, if any rallying, not surprising considering Hillary has to have the media photoshop a bunch of people on her rallies' images cause she just can't get more than a few hundreds max to attend her rallies LOL its pathetic, but its a sign that people are not buying her corporate crap.
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Actually Trump's campaign only gets better, have you seen how many people he gets at his rallies? Thats the reason he hasnt stop rallying, whereas Hillary is resting on her laurels at the moment and not doing much, if any rallying, not surprising considering Hillary has to have the media photoshop a bunch of people on her rallies' images cause she just can't get more than a few hundreds max to attend her rallies LOL its pathetic, but its a sign that people are not buying her corporate crap.


People do not vote. People give their opinion and then the electoral college votes for them. It's how "democracy" works.

The electors are all firmly on the side of Clinton. The bias was clearly seen in Dem. nominations where the old guard of the Dem. party all firmly stood behind Clinton since day 1. The media even tallied their votes as Clinton's before the convention, creating illusions of unbeatable margin.

As for Trumps campaign........ He just lost a chief of staff. The one guy that actually had his marbles in the right place and had the connections to run an effective campaign. By effective i mean, Washington DC politics effective...where aquaintances and connections mean more than anything.



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Could be.

However I do believe the results could be as surprising as the Brexit vote in the UK, nobody, really nobody was expecting Brexit to get a majority, and look at what happened. Obviously it is a bit comparing apples to oranges, but a whole new "revolutionary movement" in the Western world seems to be gaining "momentum" right now, people are getting tired of the idiotic liberal/leftist policies of the last 8 years.

Besides, we are still waiting for Wikileaks/Assange to publish their latest material this or next month and which is supposed to incriminate Hillary even more. I wouldnt be surprised.

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Could be.

However I do believe the results could be as surprising as the Brexit vote in the UK, nobody, really nobody was expecting Brexit to get a majority, and look at what happened. Obviously it is a bit comparing apples to oranges, but a whole new "revolutionary movement" in the Western world seems to be gaining "momentum" right now, people are getting tired of the idiotic liberal/leftist policies of the last 8 years.

Besides, we are still waiting for Wikileaks/Assange to publish their latest material this or next month and which is supposed to incriminate Hillary even more. I wouldnt be surprised.


Brexit vote was a fiasco. The post vote analysis revealed the one age group which was tilting the polls (18-30-ish) in favor of stay never bothered to the voting booths.

Similarly, Trump and Sanders have the same problem. Their support pool is among the young and disenfranchised. It is questionable if they turn out in numbers overwhelming enough. Trump doesn't just have to win, he needs to win decisively so that there is no doubt in any of the electors' minds that if he casts his vote differently than the prevailing vote of his constituency someone will go and back check it and find irregularities.

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The fiasco idea is a myth the liberal media likes to sell, I think you'd like to read this: http://www.demos.co.uk/blog/brexit-and-the-youth-myth/
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The fiasco idea is a myth the liberal media likes to sell, I think you'd like to read this: http://www.demos.co.uk/blog/brexit-and-the-youth-myth/


Never bothered to register, never bothered to vote, what's the difference in the end when votes are counted? The spread is noticeable and it just proves my point.

Point is, people who will die in two decades carried the vote for the young generation who will have to live with it. Because they didn't bother. It's easy to answer to a polling call, because it takes no effort.

But when some effort is required, even if only registering to vote and subsequently voting, the youngsters fail. Instant gratification generation.



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fiasco

fɪˈaskəʊ

noun

a complete failure, especially a ludicrous or humiliating one.



Seeing the meaning of the word fiasco, I do not see how it relates in ANY way to how the voting happened that led to Brexit.

It would have been a "failure" if Britain would have stayed in the EU even though there was a majority for Brexit.

A majority won and that is the end of it, that is how elections are decided. Whether you agree with it or not, call it a fiasco or not, that is your own interpretation.

"Facts dont care about feelings"
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Rothschilds chose the Scorp. Your choice means nothing.
This is why even if the Clinton murderer theories are true.. I wouldn't hold her accountable. Seems likely that the probable elites behind the curtain would be responsible.

Anything in her chart indicate she's vulnerable to being a puppet or similar situation? Anyone?

Doesn't she have Pluto in the 2nd house?


Tough to say because her birth time is questionable.

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Did you compare their natal charts- election day chart?

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No I don't really understand predictive astrology. I can pick out bits and pieces about a person's psyche but I don't know how to read how their life might play out etc. I posted this wondering if maybe someone else on dxp had done so.