Why are Fixed Signs do damn BOSSY!

i mean really, cant you all relax and go with the flow?

Ive been around a few leos, aquas, and of course scorps and its all the same. Bossy, rigid, inflexible, cant teach old dogs new tricks.

for a split second when they make, or rather when they are forced to make a change, its all good, but after a while they resort right back to who they originally are.

I think at times, theyd rather leave a situation than succumb to change.

I thought Aries were bossy, but Fixed Signs have yall beat. why?

Case in point, i meet up with my virg gal and her leo BF for brunch. I catch sight of a farmers market nearby and like the sag i am, im off to explore. Virgo couldnt be happier to explore the endless tents of shit we dont need. but the Leo, oh no. hell was freezing over for him. He started to turn into a real jerk.

Would it have killed him if he broke plans for 15 minutes and enjoyed the moment we were both having?

No Taurus? 😈

My way or the highway signs.

Posted by DMV

Would it have killed him if he broke plans for 15 minutes and enjoyed the moment we were both having?

A little. :/

But no need to be a jerk.

Now that you mention it, though, I do tend to take my own car when out and about w. Sags.

Or anyone, really-- it's just usually a Sag I'm running around with.

Hate being stuck.

Thanks for the compliments. I'm pretty sure that all Fixed sign representatives will be happily obliged to appreciate your criticism as a pleasant opportunity for ego scratching.

Posted by Rabbit
We're not too rigid...

You're just too damn flighty.

Take your damn ADHD meds already.

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Lol!!!!

I don't see fixed signs as bossy, just inflexible.

Now, if it were a gun show nearby (or something he was interested in), would the Leo had been more flexible with taking 15 minutes? hmmmm....

And I'm around enough Sags to KNOW that 15 minutes turns into one hour. lol!

fixed means unmovable. So stubbornness is a strong characteristic and bossiness a side effect
I have lots of fixed signs as loved ones and when they are happy and well rounded the bossiness is for your own good and can be sweet if infuriating sometimes 🙂

My Leos: —I know what I'm saying just trust me on this for God??s sake can't you see I'm the expert—

My long lost lovely Scorpio: —don't be silly you can't hide this from me I know you??

My Aquarius weirdoes: —Have you thought about the repercussions of what you are doing/saying/thinking on everyone/me? Honestly don't be so (insert thing they think you should change or doing wrong because they are a saint and you are a silly self-centred bitch)?? hahaha


and Taurus: —I don't believe in that, the bottom line is??_?? % -}

Posted by Shul
Thanks for the compliments. I'm pretty sure that all Fixed sign representatives will be happily obliged to appreciate your criticism as a pleasant opportunity for ego scratching.

mutable struggle

Posted by Theatrum
No Taurus? 😈

My way or the highway signs.

the tauris dont bother me like the leos and scorps do. Aquas are further down the list, but shit the LEOS and SCORPS take the goddamn cake.

Posted by lcrc
fixed means unmovable. So stubbornness is a strong characteristic and bossiness a side effect
I have lots of fixed signs as loved ones and when they are happy and well rounded the bossiness is for your own good and can be sweet if infuriating sometimes 🙂

My Leos: —I know what I'm saying just trust me on this for God??s sake can't you see I'm the expert—

My long lost lovely Scorpio: —don't be silly you can't hide this from me I know you??

My Aquarius weirdoes: —Have you thought about the repercussions of what you are doing/saying/thinking on everyone/me? Honestly don't be so (insert thing they think you should change or doing wrong because they are a saint and you are a silly self-centred bitch)?? hahaha


and Taurus: —I don't believe in that, the bottom line is??_?? % -}

but what about the person leads to this desire not to change? i need some logic.

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Posted by DMV

Would it have killed him if he broke plans for 15 minutes and enjoyed the moment we were both having?

A little. :/

But no need to be a jerk.

Now that you mention it, though, I do tend to take my own car when out and about w. Sags.

Or anyone, really-- it's just usually a Sag I'm running around with.

Hate being stuck.

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bwahahah 🙂

I always suggest to my friends, take your own car. 15 mins does turn into ongoing adventure.

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Posted by Theatrum
No Taurus? 😈

My way or the highway signs.

the tauris dont bother me like the leos and scorps do. Aquas are further down the list, but shit the LEOS and SCORPS take the goddamn cake.

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Nice. Usually taurs are the first on everyone's "hardest to deal with fixed signs" list, lol!

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Posted by Shul
Thanks for the compliments. I'm pretty sure that all Fixed sign representatives will be happily obliged to appreciate your criticism as a pleasant opportunity for ego scratching.

mutable struggle

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Hey. You have your Moon in a Fixed sign. My Moon has aspects with Fixed signs. So what's the big idea? lol

I just would like you guys to live in the moment. throw some caution to the wind.

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Posted by Shul
Thanks for the compliments. I'm pretty sure that all Fixed sign representatives will be happily obliged to appreciate your criticism as a pleasant opportunity for ego scratching.

mutable struggle

Hey. You have your Moon in a Fixed sign. My Moon has aspects with Fixed signs. So what's the big idea? lol

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ha, good point. my sun or ego is till in a mutable sign. that ol scorp moon only shows up when people activate it through their own fuckery. it stays dormant.

Posted by Impulsv
Let's stop here to shop, let's stop there for more wtf we got a ferrie to catch. So as much as we are stubborn we see some of u as selfish.

hahahahah you got me there!!!! im guilty of that. okay, i see. so we probably piss u guys off with our desire to look around and explore.

shit. 1 stop does turn into 10. i can see how it comes across selfish, im after my own expolits, no nevermind to yours. ironically, i see you guys are selfish in the same regard because you only think about your ferry time schedule. i mean, there will be another ferry. lol.

i see both sides.

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Posted by Shul
Thanks for the compliments. I'm pretty sure that all Fixed sign representatives will be happily obliged to appreciate your criticism as a pleasant opportunity for ego scratching.

mutable struggle

Hey. You have your Moon in a Fixed sign. My Moon has aspects with Fixed signs. So what's the big idea? lol

ha, good point. my sun or ego is till in a mutable sign. that ol scorp moon only shows up when people activate it through their own fuckery. it stays dormant.

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IKR? I have Sidereal/Vedic Moon in Scorpio + Progressed Moon in the same sign right now. Both conjunct my natal Pluto, Corona Scorpionis (Alphecca) and Transit Saturn. That's one hell of a challenge, but I don't complain about it. I'm getting stronger every day. 😉

Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

Posted by DMV
but what about the person leads to this desire not to change? i need some logic.

I would love to understand too but it's probably too complex. I see it as a sign they care if not they wouldn't bother saying anything and would just laugh at you when you fail (Leos). Aries are bossy because we feel like saving you from a mistake. I guess it's a question of just letting people live and let live. Even if you watch them fall down

Posted by Theatrum Nice. Usually taurs are the first on everyone's "hardest to deal with fixed signs" list, lol!

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they are hard, don't know if the hardest. I have quite a few Bull girlfriends. I love how they hate being a sissy or looking weak but have a caring side. The one Bull man in my life was just too much. He was so hard to be with, very I know what's best-I have the last word-this is how things are and they won't change sort of person. I cared about him deeply but it was just unbearable

Posted by Andalusia
Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

Absolutely. Cardinals are very bossy. I dont have many cardinal friends. I have way more mutable friends. every time i meet a virgo, pisces, or gemini..anything goes and im guaranteed a go with the flow time. i know to clear my schedule.

i notice with cardinal signs, they talk way more than effective leading people. half of em couldnt lead someone out of a wet paper bag.

they both comes across PATERNAL. someone else said that 2. i dont want a parent, i want a cohort.

Do you think Fixed Signs are reluctant to change because it may be seen as a sign of weakness? To see something from another perspective other than your own. To truly change, does this involve some trusting someone else other than yourself to make the right decision?

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Posted by DMV

Would it have killed him if he broke plans for 15 minutes and enjoyed the moment we were both having?

A little. :/

But no need to be a jerk.

Now that you mention it, though, I do tend to take my own car when out and about w. Sags.

Or anyone, really-- it's just usually a Sag I'm running around with.

Hate being stuck.

bwahahah 🙂

I always suggest to my friends, take your own car. 15 mins does turn into ongoing adventure.

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See?!?!



lol 😄

Posted by DonAmanMarat
We got places to go, things to do and we only got so much time to do it all.

We take TIME serious...at which MUTABLES spend it socializing, drinking and dancing round we FIXED signs are thinking of the bigger and better plans.

That is the difference.

So from your perspective, you see mutables as wasting time going off on tangents?
whereas, fixed signs go from point to point to point.

Posted by scorchedearth
some of these fixed sign responses come across almost as mutable bashing. my head is going to explode. 😐

well my OP was tongue and cheek with a serious undertone. 🙂

Taurus mum is my prob too for now. @_@

Posted by DonAmanMarat
We got places to go, things to do and we only got so much time to do it all.

We take TIME serious...at which MUTABLES spend it socializing, drinking and dancing round we FIXED signs are thinking of the bigger and better plans.

That is the difference.

Ehh

I just don't like being at the mercy of anyone else-- I also don't like sitting in the back seat, being bored, or surprises. :/

Posted by DonAmanMarat
We got places to go, things to do and we only got so much time to do it all.

We take TIME serious...at which MUTABLES spend it socializing, drinking and dancing round we FIXED signs are thinking of the bigger and better plans.

That is the difference.

You see but all that time socializing is bonding with people, stirring up communication, learning from others which can never be seen as a waste of time.

Maybe, you mean deferring from schedule seems like a waste of time.

The sag talk in here is a bit surprising because it seems one dimensional to me. Saggis do more than party.

Posted by scorchedearth
though i do find mutable signs that are into astrology always expect complete consistency from fixed signs. if we waver at all it seems traumatizing to the mutables. you guys can't have it both ways though. 😛

LOL, tis true. Although I'm learning that you all are pretty consistent in your seeming inconsistencies. 😛

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Do you think Fixed Signs are reluctant to change because it may be seen as a sign of weakness? To see something from another perspective other than your own. To truly change, does this involve some trusting someone else other than yourself to make the right decision?

No nothing to do with being viewed as weak. We just really value time n honor our commitments. Like for the sag it's fun to show up 20 min late for dinner reservations when all parties need to be there to be seated. Almost lost reservation. That is upsetting to a fix. It's like u would be late to a meeting at work why would u respect the time of those closest to u. U can be easy going with some stuff but reality is other times there could be serious consequences. Ok a sag will say who cares we just go to another restaurant free spirit n all. But what if this was the bday persons restaurant they looked forward to going.
It's just different perspective.
Yeah is fix need to go with flow more than not but sometimes the others need to look at the others needs.

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see, you have some valid examples. I can totally see how the "eh" flow would be annoying and inconsiderate.

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Posted by scorchedearth
though i do find mutable signs that are into astrology always expect complete consistency from fixed signs. if we waver at all it seems traumatizing to the mutables. you guys can't have it both ways though. 😛

LOL, tis true. Although I'm learning that you all are pretty consistent in your seeming inconsistencies. 😛

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yes! libras are consistently inconsistent for example.

Posted by strudel
i think most men won't be down with that tbh. most men don't like shopping.

taste testing at the farmers market is both thrilling and exciting. in the Leo's defense, he was really hungry and just wanted to sit down and eat.

i just felt like me and the virgo (his gf) have to always bend over backwards before he turns into a complete child.

this has happened in the past with them. When they go to the store, he likes to stick to a confirmed schedule. She on the other hand wants to look around, see what catches her eye and he is always so judgmental about it. Instead of picking on her and always calling her "shiny red ball" mentality out, why cant he just build in 20 mins of "play time" so he wont be aggravated. win win.

Posted by DMV
Do you think Fixed Signs are reluctant to change because it may be seen as a sign of weakness? To see something from another perspective other than your own. To truly change, does this involve some trusting someone else other than yourself to make the right decision?

Definitely agree??_some fixed signs it seems change means they are wrong and they hate being wrong (Scorps)

Taurus??s feel out of place when things are not going well or a crisis comes up. It's a reaction to losing control. They can go into a dark place and are so bull headed they won't let you near them to help or support

Even my parents, leo father pisces mom cant even shop together. 2 different mentalities. But when i go shopping with my mom, oh i get it. Im down for distractions.

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Do you think Fixed Signs are reluctant to change because it may be seen as a sign of weakness? To see something from another perspective other than your own. To truly change, does this involve some trusting someone else other than yourself to make the right decision?

Definitely agree??_some fixed signs it seems change means they are wrong and they hate being wrong (Scorps)

Taurus??s feel out of place when things are not going well or a crisis comes up. It's a reaction to losing control. They can go into a dark place and are so bull headed they won't let you near them to help or support

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i can relate to that. My emotions are NOT go with the flow. But everything else is fair game.

Posted by Andalusia
Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

Lol!!!!

So true!

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Taurus??s feel out of place when things are not going well or a crisis comes up. It's a reaction to losing control. They can go into a dark place and are so bull headed they won't let you near them to help or support

Yeah, control is huge for fixed energy. The worst that can happen to us is loosing our marbles.

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Posted by Andalusia
Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

Lol!!!!

So true!

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Agreed, fme. fixed is more concerned about themselves doing stuff going according to their plan while cardinal is more concerned about other people doing stuff acoording to their plan.

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Posted by strudel
i think most men won't be down with that tbh. most men don't like shopping.

taste testing at the farmers market is both thrilling and exciting. in the Leo's defense, he was really hungry and just wanted to sit down and eat.

i just felt like me and the virgo (his gf) have to always bend over backwards before he turns into a complete child.

this has happened in the past with them. When they go to the store, he likes to stick to a confirmed schedule. She on the other hand wants to look around, see what catches her eye and he is always so judgmental about it. Instead of picking on her and always calling her "shiny red ball" mentality out, why cant he just build in 20 mins of "play time" so he wont be aggravated. win win.

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Don't you think it was inconsiderate to him to make him wait to eat so yall could play? He was hungry and yall knew that. Couldn't you eat first, THEN go to the Farmer's Market?

Posted by Andalusia
Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

Hahaha! Not true for me. I'm too lazy to mind other people's business. They all want me to do something about stuff that doesn't concern me and fix their issues. I just tell them, "No! Why do you involve me in issues that doesn't concern me? Fix it yourself!"

I do mediate when it's really necessary. Here, it's the fixed vs mutable arguments and fights all the time. *sigh* Usually I just watch on the sidelines and laugh.

Fixed signs do listen if the request is reasonable, logical and actually do-able. It's all a matter of balance, give and take. They're cool with that but if you just demand them to go/do something that deviates from the 'plan' without considering their side, you might as well go fuck yourself... nah ah, that's not gonna happen and they won't budge.

But I love mutables more, they're spontaneous and flexible. I tend to clash with other cardinals, they all have an idea of how things should be and they all should lead.

With fixed signs, the only one that irritates me a lot are Scorps and their routine and having to stick with their schedule even if time can't allow that anymore. Then we end up being late where we're supposed to go because of the need to do the routine regardless of other important errands.

cos Imma baws

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i think most men won't be down with that tbh. most men don't like shopping.

taste testing at the farmers market is both thrilling and exciting. in the Leo's defense, he was really hungry and just wanted to sit down and eat.

i just felt like me and the virgo (his gf) have to always bend over backwards before he turns into a complete child.

this has happened in the past with them. When they go to the store, he likes to stick to a confirmed schedule. She on the other hand wants to look around, see what catches her eye and he is always so judgmental about it. Instead of picking on her and always calling her "shiny red ball" mentality out, why cant he just build in 20 mins of "play time" so he wont be aggravated. win win.

OH I THOUGHT IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. YOU WERE ALL EATING THEN WANTED TO GO TO SOME BAZAAR FOR SAG BEADS AND PAISLEY PRINT SCARVES FOR YOUR NEXT TRIP TO MOROCCO! 😄

TRUTH I ACT LIKE AN ASS ALL THE TIME IF I'M NOT FONDLED.

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I like your moustache, btw. I'm not being gay, so relax. lol

Posted by Andalusia
Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

+1

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Posted by strudel
i think most men won't be down with that tbh. most men don't like shopping.

taste testing at the farmers market is both thrilling and exciting. in the Leo's defense, he was really hungry and just wanted to sit down and eat.

i just felt like me and the virgo (his gf) have to always bend over backwards before he turns into a complete child.

this has happened in the past with them. When they go to the store, he likes to stick to a confirmed schedule. She on the other hand wants to look around, see what catches her eye and he is always so judgmental about it. Instead of picking on her and always calling her "shiny red ball" mentality out, why cant he just build in 20 mins of "play time" so he wont be aggravated. win win.

Don't you think it was inconsiderate to him to make him wait to eat so yall could play? He was hungry and yall knew that. Couldn't you eat first, THEN go to the Farmer's Market?

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he could have gotten a snack there. i offered

Posted by AesmaDaeva
Fixed signs do listen if the request is reasonable, logical and actually do-able. It's all a matter of balance, give and take. They're cool with that but if you just demand them to go/do something that deviates from the 'plan' without considering their side, you might as well go fuck yourself... nah ah, that's not gonna happen and they won't budge.

thats how i see it as well. It has to make total sense to change. Whereas with me, i dont require complete trust or a thought out plan to give someone else the wheel. dude, just take it.

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Posted by Andalusia
Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

Hahaha! Not true for me. I'm too lazy to mind other people's business. They all want me to do something about stuff that doesn't concern me and fix their issues. I just tell them, "No! Why do you involve me in issues that doesn't concern me? Fix it yourself!"

I do mediate when it's really necessary. Here, it's the fixed vs mutable arguments and fights all the time. *sigh* Usually I just watch on the sidelines and laugh.

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I have a capricorn boss lady at work (shes two years older than me) and she gets on my nerves to the core. Super punctual and by the book mentality to managing associates drives me crazy, she makes the Virgo general manager look like a freaking angel. Things she does that piss me off:

1. ALWAYS is in boss mode and barking out orders
2. MICROMANAGING me


Im like I get it lady, you're the boss, but you're not my mother, leave me alone and let me do my work in peace. (I work at a restaurant).

If I were to say out loud what I say to myself inside my head after she gives me an order, I would definitely have been fired a long time ago.

The Farmers Market is the bees knees. We were standing in a food court by the way and he was wanting us to stick to a schedule. we even had a certain amount of allotted time to eat brunch then hit the movies. good grief, there are 15-20 mins of previews b4 the movie.

Like why cant the schedule change and we improvise. Who knows, the new "schedule" may turn out better than the original.

I agree with Scorched. it didnt come off to me as inconsiderate at first. it came across as spontaneous and new, exciting. It wasnt until he started to get loud and cursing that i was like WHOA. its only brunch dude. By the way, have you noticed the all natural pumpkin bread sitting on my plate that i offered to you—?

this happens everytime we go out. Why cant the damn Fixed Sign bend and make some adjustments for us Mutables?

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Posted by Andalusia
Cardinals always seem more bossy to me. Fixed is just stubborn.

Cardinals: "ALRIGHT EVERYONE - LISTEN TO ME! THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING!"

Fixed: "......... Yeeeaah, I'm not doing that."

Hahaha! Not true for me. I'm too lazy to mind other people's business. They all want me to do something about stuff that doesn't concern me and fix their issues. I just tell them, "No! Why do you involve me in issues that doesn't concern me? Fix it yourself!"

I do mediate when it's really necessary. Here, it's the fixed vs mutable arguments and fights all the time. *sigh* Usually I just watch on the sidelines and laugh.

I have a capricorn boss lady at work (shes two years older than me) and she gets on my nerves to the core. Super punctual and by the book mentality to managing associates drives me crazy, she makes the Virgo general manager look like a freaking angel. Things she does that piss me off:

1. ALWAYS is in boss mode and barking out orders
2. MICROMANAGING me


Im like I get it lady, you're the boss, but you're not my mother, leave me alone and let me do my work in peace. (I work at a restaurant).

If I were to say out loud what I say to myself inside my head after she gives me an order, I would definitely have been fired a long time ago.

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i know a cap girl manager like that 2. every one of her subordinates hates her.