
Moonbutter
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Posted by SuperMissManSoo tue SuperMissMan^^^ Our own emotions are so deep and debilitating sometimes, how can we possibly take on others as well? it's just too much, waaaay too much to handle 😢 That's why we can't process profound emotions soo soon, we need time. So if you like a Cancer, don't profess your "love" so soon, take your time. Think of it like this....we are not a shot, or mixed drink you can just drink quickly. noo we are like a fine wine you must sip slowly and enjoy (preferably with a delicious meal) 😉
Also im sure its a water sign thing but as a pisces, and a being involved wih pisces scorpio n cncers, I notice a certin overwhelm. We disappear from all and every. Its to recharge. We need solitude so tht we can go out in th world ith our own emotions. Its like once we start feling other peoples vibrations, and pickin up on their feelings to the point it blends and gets lst in our own, we disappear into the shadows.



Posted by crabRiotYes, of course crabRiot! the negative emotion is exactly what I'm talking about...feeling too much pressure/stress, etc...
I disagree with you Moonbutter..I think they disappear because of some negative emotion that they are feeling (and is trying to process) that is somehow related to their significant other/friend or whoever. They feel some type a way and decide to withdraw and regain some confidence before reappearing again.


Posted by crabRiotAgreed, but I was talking more along the lines of the beginnings of a romantic relationship before any connection/bond has formed for the Cancer partner. Often the Cancer male comes on strong, because he is just being his natural chivalrous self and sweeps the lady off her feet. The lady in turn falls for the guy in such a short time thinking "this guy is so into me, etc" because that was how the guy acted which portrayed that illusion. The guy freaks out when the girl professes her strong feelings because he's thinking, I don't know her that well...this is too much to handle right now.. And so he goes silent. Meanwhile the lady is wondering wtf happened and she starts pursuing/chasing the guy which just makes the guy more stressed and need space. Is this not accurate moon ladies? Please describe your own thoughts and experiences with this 🙂
Okay.
I know when I disappear it's because of that reason EXACTLY!
They did or said something that made me feel"small" or hurt and I just take my leave.
Now in order for them to fix things they need to "talk things through with me and apologise".
In order to find out what they did wrong (if they don't already know) they need to ask DIRECT questions.
Don't dance around the issue or sweep it under the rug..Let's resolve it and move on..
By the way guys just think of me as a Cancer dude....I act just like them.
You don't have to baby them either. They're tougher than they let on.


Posted by liya-bGood question liya-b..for me, if the "relationship" is new, with no significant bond formed, when I walk away I don't come back and no, I don't feel I lost that person. This is because in my mind there was nothing to have lost in the first place. Without a strong/deeper connection (only developed with time) you are simply seen as an acquaintance who can easily be replaced. The trick here is to never do anything that makes us disappear in the first place. There are exceptions of course, however I'm pretty sure this is the rule.
How do Cancerians react when they've retreated for too long and the other person has moved on? Do they realise that they could lose that person?

Posted by MoonbutterI'm not sure if you remember my thread here from a few months ago, I don't really wanna go in depth again but I'd known my "friend" for 5 years, I've moved cities and mutual attraction was revealed right before I left. When I approached the subject a week later he said (apparently influenced by his friend) "he just wanted to hook up". I left it at that, still trying to engage friendly talk every now and then, but I sensed he was taking a few steps back to think and deal with his career and I respected that...for 6 months. I've recently fully moved on and did that Scorpio thing of cutting all ties because I felt it necessary. I haven't heard from him since and I'm learning to move on.Posted by liya-bGood question liya-b..for me, if the "relationship" is new, with no significant bond formed, when I walk away I don't come back and no, I don't feel I lost that person. This is because in my mind there was nothing to have lost in the first place. Without a strong/deeper connection (only developed with time) you are simply seen as an acquaintance who can easily be replaced. The trick here is to never do anything that makes us disappear in the first place. There are exceptions of course, however I'm pretty sure this is the rule.
How do Cancerians react when they've retreated for too long and the other person has moved on? Do they realise that they could lose that person?click to expand

Posted by liya-bOh no, sorry not familiar with your thread...but what I'm talking about doesn't really apply to your situation. I feel maybe that could go either way. If you want closure or a chance with him, you will have to reach out...I don't think he will.Posted by MoonbutterI'm not sure if you remember my thread here from a few months ago, I don't really wanna go in depth again but I'd known my "friend" for 5 years, I've moved cities and mutual attraction was revealed right before I left. When I approached the subject a week later he said (apparently influenced by his friend) "he just wanted to hook up". I left it at that, still trying to engage friendly talk every now and then, but I sensed he was taking a few steps back to think and deal with his career and I respected that...for 6 months. I've recently fully moved on and did that Scorpio thing of cutting all ties because I felt it necessary. I haven't heard from him since and I'm learning to move on.Posted by liya-bGood question liya-b..for me, if the "relationship" is new, with no significant bond formed, when I walk away I don't come back and no, I don't feel I lost that person. This is because in my mind there was nothing to have lost in the first place. Without a strong/deeper connection (only developed with time) you are simply seen as an acquaintance who can easily be replaced. The trick here is to never do anything that makes us disappear in the first place. There are exceptions of course, however I'm pretty sure this is the rule.
How do Cancerians react when they've retreated for too long and the other person has moved on? Do they realise that they could lose that person?
But anyway, yeah my Venus in Cap respects the need for strong foundations and that's all I ever hear from Cancer men around me but this one relationship just doesn't sit well with me, especially considering he's a cancer sun and moon.click to expand

Posted by MoonbutterHe still messages back from time to time so for a while I thought we could still be cool but I've done my best trying to reach out for little success so it's time I take a step back so I can reassess the situation and think straight again. I don't want him back anymore, I just don't want to hurt him in the process which is why I asked how they would react 🙂
Oh no, sorry not familiar with your thread...but what I'm talking about doesn't really apply to your situation. I feel maybe that could go either way. If you want closure or a chance with him, you will have to reach out...I don't think he will.


Posted by crabRiotInstead of making them ask what they did wrong, why not just come right out and say "this ticked me off and here is why" ?
Okay.
I know when I disappear it's because of that reason EXACTLY!
They did or said something that made me feel"small" or hurt and I just take my leave.
Now in order for them to fix things they need to "talk things through with me and apologise".
In order to find out what they did wrong (if they don't already know) they need to ask DIRECT questions.
Don't dance around the issue or sweep it under the rug..Let's resolve it and move on..
By the way guys just think of me as a Cancer dude....I act just like them.
You don't have to baby them either. They're tougher than they let on.

Posted by MoonbutterDo you let people know what exactly would make people disappear or do you leave them to their own devices to figure it out?Posted by liya-bGood question liya-b..for me, if the "relationship" is new, with no significant bond formed, when I walk away I don't come back and no, I don't feel I lost that person. This is because in my mind there was nothing to have lost in the first place. Without a strong/deeper connection (only developed with time) you are simply seen as an acquaintance who can easily be replaced. The trick here is to never do anything that makes us disappear in the first place. There are exceptions of course, however I'm pretty sure this is the rule.
How do Cancerians react when they've retreated for too long and the other person has moved on? Do they realise that they could lose that person?click to expand

Posted by boxcarmirntaThanks boxcarmirnta Now about your man...I need a bit more info, if not too intrusive. Have you guys been intimate? When you say sort of dating, do you mean more like a FWB or just hanging out with some handholding/makeouts sometimes? Also, did his ex break up with him? Do you know why they are not together? How old are you both? What are his placements/your placements?
Great thread very helpful! I've been dating a cancer for about 4 mos..sort of dating..we have rough patches where he has to process and stuff I get that, but he basically says he's still in love with his ex which is why he doesn't feel he can be involved, but he has tried to remain friends, made it very clear he cares for me.and has strong feelings for me (even a drunken love confession) ?? I've been very patient and am letting him sort it out but also trying to help move out of the past...I guess I'm just wondering..does it sound worth it? Like there is hope and potential for a future? There seems to be magic between us and we cant stay away..

Posted by truecapYou mean like a handbook on how to date a Cancer? haha Yeah, I warn guys I like to go slow and they just don't listen :/ Then they wonder why I disappear. Now if it is a serious dating relationship that is a bit different because now my feelings are involved which can get a bit tricky. This is where if something is done that hurts me(and I tell them what that is) I need my partner to understand what they did, why I feel a certain way about it and never do it again.Posted by MoonbutterDo you let people know what exactly would make people disappear or do you leave them to their own devices to figure it out?Posted by liya-bGood question liya-b..for me, if the "relationship" is new, with no significant bond formed, when I walk away I don't come back and no, I don't feel I lost that person. This is because in my mind there was nothing to have lost in the first place. Without a strong/deeper connection (only developed with time) you are simply seen as an acquaintance who can easily be replaced. The trick here is to never do anything that makes us disappear in the first place. There are exceptions of course, however I'm pretty sure this is the rule.
How do Cancerians react when they've retreated for too long and the other person has moved on? Do they realise that they could lose that person?click to expand


Posted by Kodak375Haha, isn't it the same in every water sign thread though?
Its like watching a group of college students high as fuck trying to put together a puzzle over here.

Posted by Kodak375idk, I feel like the Cancer and Scorpio boards have a lot of those long elaborate stories because both signs can't communicate for shit and give mixed signals, etc.
^^^^^
This up here. Ain't no Cancer man got time for all that. I didn't read it.

Posted by Kodak375I know, I know, talk to him, etc. I've made the trip to his city five times in the past 2 months because I still have friends there and it felt like trying to catch a private meeting with the president. I don't have to justify myself and I've already removed myself from the situation but I see why a lending ear could be appreciated for people still stuck with a Cancer man-child.Posted by liya-bYou want to know the secret to communication with your cancer man?Posted by Kodak375idk, I feel like the Cancer and Scorpio boards have a lot of those long elaborate stories because both signs can't communicate for shit and give mixed signals, etc.
^^^^^
This up here. Ain't no Cancer man got time for all that. I didn't read it.
They've read of the Cancer man archetype so they wonder why their man acted out so differently and they hope someone will listen to their stories as an illusion of closure.click to expand

Posted by truecapSometimes we're just in pain(still in pain even when we resurface and communicating with you) and we fear reliving that pain again so we stay quiet.Also,sometimes we're hoping that YOU would acknowledge that you have hurt us but that's where the problem lies because sometimes people don't even realise that they have hurt us and we just disappear.Also remember that Cancers hate confrontation of this kind as well.Posted by crabRiotInstead of making them ask what they did wrong, why not just come right out and say "this ticked me off and here is why" ?
Okay.
I know when I disappear it's because of that reason EXACTLY!
They did or said something that made me feel"small" or hurt and I just take my leave.
Now in order for them to fix things they need to "talk things through with me and apologise".
In order to find out what they did wrong (if they don't already know) they need to ask DIRECT questions.
Don't dance around the issue or sweep it under the rug..Let's resolve it and move on..
By the way guys just think of me as a Cancer dude....I act just like them.
You don't have to baby them either. They're tougher than they let on.click to expand

Posted by Starry22I agree with you 10000% Starry22 but THATS the problem alot of Cancers have.We don't know how to be DIRECT so we just suffer in silence.
Crabriot - there is nothing wrong in hoping that the other person understands your pain. However, relationships are based on open communication. How is the other person going to know what pains you or what you are going through if you dont even tell them. Dont expect them to be mind readers.
Place yourself in the other persons shoes, if you were on the outside you would go crazy trying to determine what exactly is hurting your beloved. Why these games? How do you expect an open relationship if you are not willing to open yourself to them? Speak up and you may realize that it was just a small miscommunication. Relationships require that you make yourself vulnerable to the person whom you like/love.

Posted by Cft1101And Cancer men need a reality check 😉
Sometimes us girls need a slap in the face to say wake the F UP ‚

Posted by leogangLeave if you want to leave. He knows how you feel, he's just being a dick at this point.
am I suppose to react I told him I don't like that. twice! and he still brought someone around? I left early and left them alone was I suppose to I mean just respecting myself if I don't feel comfortable I need to leave I feel

Posted by Kodak375I'm afraid the only square peg is you Kodak, and it doesn't look like you will be finding that circular hole anytime soon...😛Posted by liya-bNo. No. Absolutely Not. This is 10 females with square pegs standing over a circular hole.Posted by Kodak375Haha, isn't it the same in every water sign thread though?
Its like watching a group of college students high as fuck trying to put together a puzzle over here.click to expand

Posted by liya-bJust because we may not "communicate" in the way you like does not mean we are not effective. In fact, the best and most accurate communication is non-verbal anyway and we are superior at that 😄Posted by Kodak375idk, I feel like the Cancer and Scorpio boards have a lot of those long elaborate stories because both signs can't communicate for shit and give mixed signals, etc.
^^^^^
This up here. Ain't no Cancer man got time for all that. I didn't read it.
They've read of the Cancer man archetype so they wonder why their man acted out so differently and they hope someone will listen to their stories as an illusion of closure.click to expand

Posted by Moonbutterhaha, I'm actually the worst offender at lacking verbal communication, as a scorpio moon/mercury, venus in cap and mars in cancer, speaking about feelings is not my forte 😉Posted by liya-bJust because we may not "communicate" in the way you like does not mean we are not effective. In fact, the best and most accurate communication is non-verbal anyway and we are superior at that 😄Posted by Kodak375idk, I feel like the Cancer and Scorpio boards have a lot of those long elaborate stories because both signs can't communicate for shit and give mixed signals, etc.
^^^^^
This up here. Ain't no Cancer man got time for all that. I didn't read it.
They've read of the Cancer man archetype so they wonder why their man acted out so differently and they hope someone will listen to their stories as an illusion of closure.click to expand

Posted by Cft1101For me, no. I thought my recent LTR was unattractive and I was not interested but he "flew under the radar" and just kept showing up at my place(he was friends with my roomy) and after months I started to like him. What I'm saying is we like to go slow, meaning no dating/relationship until we get to know you and like you. This takes TIME and the best way is to be friends first...no hooking up! That creates confusion and pressure.
Ok do cancer ppl know straight away if they have feelings ? Why do they pull push ?
I don't get it ...... I know if like someone straight away and want to see them again !!
I couldn't mess someone around for 9months if I felt nothing for them it's just pointless ....... Someone please help me understand this crabby game —

Posted by Kodak375Haha thanks, I knew you would like that one 😉Posted by MoonbutterHaha I concede that was a good one hunPosted by Kodak375I'm afraid the only square peg is you Kodak, and it doesn't look like you will be finding that circular hole anytime soon...😛Posted by liya-bNo. No. Absolutely Not. This is 10 females with square pegs standing over a circular hole.Posted by Kodak375Haha, isn't it the same in every water sign thread though?
Its like watching a group of college students high as fuck trying to put together a puzzle over here.click to expand

Posted by crabRiotSo instead of being clear, you suffer in silence. Someone won't know they hurt you unless you tell them. Otherwise if they don't know you won't get an apology and while resentment builds up, your relationships get ruined. And that's on you.take responsibility for your own feelings.Posted by truecapSometimes we're just in pain(still in pain even when we resurface and communicating with you) and we fear reliving that pain again so we stay quiet.Also,sometimes we're hoping that YOU would acknowledge that you have hurt us but that's where the problem lies because sometimes people don't even realise that they have hurt us and we just disappear.Also remember that Cancers hate confrontation of this kind as well.Posted by crabRiotInstead of making them ask what they did wrong, why not just come right out and say "this ticked me off and here is why" ?
Okay.
I know when I disappear it's because of that reason EXACTLY!
They did or said something that made me feel"small" or hurt and I just take my leave.
Now in order for them to fix things they need to "talk things through with me and apologise".
In order to find out what they did wrong (if they don't already know) they need to ask DIRECT questions.
Don't dance around the issue or sweep it under the rug..Let's resolve it and move on..
By the way guys just think of me as a Cancer dude....I act just like them.
You don't have to baby them either. They're tougher than they let on.click to expand


Posted by truecapI think it's more along the lines of expecting others to have the same acknowledgement and sensitivity to others feelings, and when they don't it's just a disappointment. We do take responsibility but others should as well and realize how what and how they say effects others. I would say Cancers are the traditional romantics in every respect, from love to business. We know how to give respect and expect that from others. If it's too much to ask for then go back to the Minor Leagues.Posted by crabRiotSo instead of being clear, you suffer in silence. Someone won't know they hurt you unless you tell them. Otherwise if they don't know you won't get an apology and while resentment builds up, your relationships get ruined. And that's on you.take responsibility for your own feelings.Posted by truecapSometimes we're just in pain(still in pain even when we resurface and communicating with you) and we fear reliving that pain again so we stay quiet.Also,sometimes we're hoping that YOU would acknowledge that you have hurt us but that's where the problem lies because sometimes people don't even realise that they have hurt us and we just disappear.Also remember that Cancers hate confrontation of this kind as well.Posted by crabRiotInstead of making them ask what they did wrong, why not just come right out and say "this ticked me off and here is why" ?
Okay.
I know when I disappear it's because of that reason EXACTLY!
They did or said something that made me feel"small" or hurt and I just take my leave.
Now in order for them to fix things they need to "talk things through with me and apologise".
In order to find out what they did wrong (if they don't already know) they need to ask DIRECT questions.
Don't dance around the issue or sweep it under the rug..Let's resolve it and move on..
By the way guys just think of me as a Cancer dude....I act just like them.
You don't have to baby them either. They're tougher than they let on.click to expand
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"Cancer woman here, and I can tell you I have done the same thing in the past with men(disappear/ignore), however it is not a "test" it's because for some reason others just fall soo quickly for our charms and get too into us before we even have time to figure out what our feelings are. My best and LTRs were with men who took their time to know me/me know them without the pressures of dating, and I fell for them in a deep way by learning who they were and built a connection. So the problem here is you fell for this guy and now he feel that "pressure" and it stressed him out. What you need to do is completely back off and take a more casual approach like friends but interested. Stay sweet, independent and don't let him know how much you like him until he confirms his feelings. This will take TIME it is quality of course, but most importantly it is about QUANTITY of contact, a little here, a little there but over a long period (months) of time. For heavens sake don't contact him again until he contacts you whatever you do. And if/when he does just be sweet and casual, don't initiate seeing him. Good luck!"