In love with Virgo

Hi! I am goign crazy. I have a severe crush on this virgo male who has big dreamy champagne colour eyes. he is 18 yrs younger than me! I think he also likes me, but like a typical virgoan always speaks about principles and avoids me most of the time. but when i too start ignoring him, he tries to draw my attention. i am confused, but hopelessly attracted to him.

18 years.......

hi softy
what does your message mean? well i look 10 yrs younger than my age. ve a perfect , voluptuous figure..but cant figure out this dishy Mr. Virgo.

I was referring to your looks. Can you give your ages? If you don't mind. I was actually referring to his mental state. Or his maturity level seeing that it already takes men longer to mature than women. I don't know much about Virgos. All i know is that they are too anayltical for me. Not deep enough.

I meant to say I was not referring to your looks.

Hi Softy
I am 40 and the Mr Virgo is 22. Yes men do have maturity levels lower than women. Uptill now i ve been only involved wiht men older than me. for first time i am so much attracted to somebody so much younger.

he's not the bag boy at the grocery store right?

Hi Cj!
No he is not a bag boy at the grocery store. he works in a call centre and is doing his MBA. We met each other as we belong to the same music circle. We are learning the Indian musical Instrument called Sitar. also we are into eastern spiritual stuff!

i think everyone has read my story of the scorpio that i am deeply in love with. i am 49 he is 33. we were together last summer and have since broken up, but we still get together once and awhile, because the chemistry is so undeniable. my advice for a women dealing with a younger man is to be realistic of the facts and what his desires are. i mean, well, we had talked about children and his wants. then i got pregnant, and then lost the baby. while i was happy, i understood the problems that can occur with a late in life pregnancy. he said in the beginning that he was ok not having kids, then when i got pregnant and lost the baby, all of a sudden he definately wanted children. we broke up because of that. i had to let him go, because it's his right to want that at his age. what i am saying is that with romance of older women/younger men, one must be aware of this issue. (you being 40, you might not want children anymore)..and if you're looking for love and a long term relationship, you must consider this. of course that's why when it's the older man/younger women thing it usually works. she can still provide him a family. then again, you might already have children. just be aware of what you were going through at 22, and what the next 18 years was like for you. if it is only for a fun romp, i'd say go for it, but if you're looking for more, be careful. be realistic. it has not been easy for me to let my scorpio go.

also...while i too look 10 years younger then my age, you will eventually get those lines, the skin won't bounce back, etc. and when he looks at a 20 year old, reality will smack you in the face hard. it sucks...it hurts. it's life. also..he might see you look at a 45 year old guy a little too long (chemistry is chemistry, no matter how old you are) and his insecurities about the age difference will surface also. like i said, if it's just for fun, go for it, but know these issues will surface. best of luck. best of love.

sorry looneybird, i couldnt resist. i say enjoy it for what it is but dont expect to much. do u really need to rack your brain trying to figure out the motive and intentions of a 22 year old?

Hi Pato and cj,
Thanx a lot for your practical hints regarding the furture of a older woman/younger man relationship. I totally aware of this. And i am going into this with my eyes open. I know inspite of being so careful i could still get hurt. I used to get hurt earlier.In order to avoid any future hurt i started cultivating artistic hobbies.It really worked and i stopped feeling victimised the moment any of my relationship died out. Now i have started teaching music to my children. My children enjoy this thoroughly. Gives me great satisfaction seeing my children so happy and also gives me great sense of accomplishment. Besides this leaves me little time to dwell on the dissappointments for more than is necessary. Helps me to pull up myself soon and look forward to life with renewd hope. But yes I know i will feel hurt incase Mr. Virgo stares at someone much younger, while he is with me. So that's something i will have to learn to either joke to him about it..or quit.... there can be no denying the fact that time will come when he will want a woman with no wrinkles!!!

Cj7
all i want to know is if his intentions are physical...why the hell he is not coming forward and asking me out..atleast for a cup of tea? His eyes speaks of his interest in me. And my interest in him has too not been hidden form him...i feel he can peep into my soul.

why doesn't he make any advances to you?...because he's 22 and you're 40....he wants you to seduce him sweetie. you know "the graduate" ..."i believe you're trying to seduce me, mrs. robinson." it could be fun.

Hello Lonnybird, fancy meeting you here.

I stepped from my Virgo home to browse wild life in some of the other signs and landed here. As you know, I'm behind you on this, whatever that's worth. Sweet-P's post is partially right. The age thing will only matter if you let it. You know exactly what you want, there are no illusions. Providing both of you can be honest in feelings, it should be fine. There is one thing I just thought of though. I think the potential for feelings to get involved is high here, especially on his side. You know the saying, the best laid plans . . . I know you said you don't want the complication, just the passion, which is cool. I dig that. The catch is Mother Nature can be somewhat unreasonable in this regard. She?s not that keen on passion and complication being mutually exclusive. They skip down the street like three year olds hand in hand.

You know, to know something and experience it are two different things. You two could have a meeting of the minds. You could both agree, friends with benefits only. But in the experience of it all, the friends plus agreement may get a black eye. Like I said in some of my other post, I?m not good at expressing emotion. I feel them, with a moon in Aries in the eighth house, definitely, but as I said earlier, because of the double Virgo thing, expression feels like vulnerability. So with the exception of happiness, heavy stuff doesn?t spill. Now, even though I consider myself quite emotionally stable, I think my sturdiness would be seriously compromised here. I can?t see getting out of something like this unscathed, especially if that Cancer emotionalism (passion) draws me out. I?d, love it. And that?s the rub. There?s a reason some books say Virgo has a tendency to get addicted to Pisces. That intense emotion thing is unsettlingly unpredictable, especially for a sign that doesn?t quite trust emotion. At the same time, it?s drawing. Iceman melts and just embarrassingly gushes all over the floor. I'm saying me, because the guy's a Virgo and I'm . . .well, you know, like in the other post. Putting myself in his shoes to try and impart a little insight. Even still, they're risk to everything. I can't see this as being justification for not going for it. Hell, I?d love the emotional high. This may sounds masochistic, but I don?t think I?d want to get out unscathed. Leave a pink scar. "Loonybird's been here." 🙂 In fact, going in it, I?d already know the potential for hurt. You two just have to be honest and keep the lines of communication open. It could be fun, at its best exciting.

On a separate issue, before I retreat to my Virgo domain. Sweet-P.

"Men take much longer to mature than us women, so if you are older and he is younger beware - probably views you as . . ."

Okay, for one. Your tryst with "underaged junior? (17 years old. Shame on you; waving my finger in a condemning fashion) 🙂 is quite different than Lonnybird's affection for her beloved Virgo. She's grown, and as far as I can tell, is unambiguous in her wants. You two were kids. 🙂 Kids never know what they want.

And no, the fact that we're the same age hasn't eluded me, but simply put my dear. It?s universally accepted.

Pisces take much longer to mature than us Virgos. 🙂 (Laughing hysterically)


VirgoSquared

Okay. My computer's being weird. Those question marks are supposed to be apostrophes. Don't know what happened, everything was typed correctly. Sorry about that.

Hi Virgosquared!
Am I happy seeing you here ! Let me tell you I love virgos. I will right more on this in the virgo sign slot. Your revelation that my Mr Virgo stands a greater chance of getting hurt had me thinking. And I realised that my experience of life, maturity & life style gives me a greater cushion against hurt and he is the more vulnerable one. Especially when, according to his friends, the reason he doesn't want to lose out on my friendship is because I am the only person who can chat with him for hours without getting annoyed with him, and absolutely enjoying his talks. You are right, it is meeting of minds first. The passion part actually developed when he started treating me exactly like the way I appreciate a man to treat a woman, with absolute courtesy..and ofcourse add to it, his champagne eyes, great personality and sexy voice.
But still I get the feeling that though he is attrated to me and is making sure if I am attracted to him, he definitely tries to resist spending time with me alone! And that is something which I want to achieve. Get him alone !

Hi Kennyg,
You have a point there. Rest assured I have even thought of escape doors and how i will cope up with the possible separation. Either or both of us could get hurt over here. But I am still willing to go ahead. I want to experience him! If he is willing then there is no turning back. If he backs out I will get another virgo man!
Till now i ve been depriving myself of an experince with virgo men because whom ever I met was married. And for me married/seriously attached men are out!So sad even I have been attracted to them.
First time i have come across a single- attractive virgo male and what more we already are great friends.
crossing my fingers in hope!!! Sigh!!!!

Hello Everyone.

Sweet-P did I read your information correctly? You're a double Pisces? Sun and ascenddant in Pisces? Oh God, talk about polarity. That's kind of scary. 🙂 In a good way though.

You know, you're the first other double sign I've met. Well, we haven't actually met, this being virtual . . .whatever. I know this is off subject, but do you find you vibe almost exactly to the typical Pisces archetype? Also do you find there is something in your chart that breaks that symmetry? The sources I give credence to on Virgo characteristics have me almost down pat. From what I understand, the reason has to do with the double Virgo thing, my sun and asc being in Virgo, snuggled up tight with Mercury, all in the first house. The major break I believe comes with my Venus being in Leo, and more dramatically with my Moon being in Aries in the 8th house. It creates an inner conflict with Virgo's inherent detached nature. The Moon (emotion) being magnified by the attack dog Aries in Scorpio's den of intensity, the 8th house, manor of sex, death, and regeneration. Ninety-five percent of the time, those Virgins keep Aries in leash and muzzle, but Aries is always expressed. Usually internalized. Aries doesn't dig being chained in the back yard. I realize it's my chart balancing itself out, but it causes crashes sometimes. Bitter rivals stuggling for advantage.

I was wondering if there's anything you've noticed in your chart that though conflicting, causing some inner turmoil, is necessary to add dimension and balance to your character?

As for the remark about Virgos being more mature than Pisces. LOL. I take it back. It was wrong. Oh, not in principal, but in accuracy. You see, that ten year maturity gap between Virgos and Pisces actually doubles with the doubling of the signs 🙂 🙂 LOL.

Go figure. Can't argue with the heavens.

To note, I really am joking. My shot back at the women are more mature than guys comment. My Mom's a Pisces, so I have some knowledge on the reality and the lore. Tempermental at times, definitely. A tendency to be too sensitive at time, yeah. An extremely wonderful person though. Of course I'm biased, but it's the truth. As for the sensitivy and emotional qualities, those aren't necessarily bad, just different. It's like comparing oranges and grapes, neither can claim supreme advantage, only an advantage in particular circumstances. I say this to say my Mom has a tendency to think being overly emotional is a weakness. I'm built to feel that way, but intellectually I know it's not true. I always tell her being overly emotional is not indicative of weakness, it's just indicative of being overly emotional.
I'm curious, do you have similar bouts of, ommm, insecurity? Sorry, couldn't think of a better word. Do your emotions tend to run high or change suddenly and intensely according to your environment? Pisces are suppose to be empaths. Do you find this to be the case with you? Don't mean to interrogate, this double Pisces thing intrigues me. Born curious.

VirgoSquared

Hi Virgosquared!
I liked your analysis of your natal chart. if you check my profile, you will find my planetary positions too. will gimme a short analysis of it?
thanx

Hello Loonybird.

About the chart, I'll definitely try. Keep in mind, I'm at best a novice at astrology. I've gotten quite good at understanding my chart and can understand some configurations in other people's charts because of this. Essentially, there are certain planets and houses I understand well, others, I don't get at all. But, I'll do my best. To muddle all this modesty 🙂, I will say, the few overviews I've given to people have been quite accurate. Well, at least they say they have.

Two things. Do you want me to email it to you or post it here? You know, privacy and all. Secondly, I'll need honest, I repeat, honest feedback on the validity of what's said. I'm still determining the merits of astrology so feedback is essential.

Catch you later,

VirgoSquared

Hey Some Progress!
Guess what? Mr. Virgo has called me twice within last 18 hrs from Singapore and wants to go out with me for lunch or dinner- whatever suits me, once i am back in s'pore. He said he missed me terribly and since I have been away for ten days, he requires some more time to discuss issues of his life with me! And hence the invitation for a luncheon/dinner.
Right now I am cultivating myself in remaining just as before when I meet him next..i.e. a friend who gives a good ear to his heart pouring... and not look starry eyed. As a gift I am taking for him a book on "Vedic Mathematics" (he is doing his MBA in Accounts) & "Ayurveda"(he is obssessed with health issues).
So guys let's see what happens !!! All you guys over here(specially virgosquared) guide me!!! I have not stopped smiling from ear to ear since I last spoke to him.

Hi Virgosquared!
You know we were at the message board at the same time?
Thanx for responding positively in interpreting my chart. I would like you to email me your analysis. I will definitely give you a very honest feedback on it.
🙂

Loonybird,

Hey. Glad to hear the turn with Mr. Virgo. I know I went a way overboard on my last post on your Virgo board, "In Love with Virgo." I was like, "Well. That's end of her wanting my input." 😢 At the same time, for what it's worth, I still think you're handling it right. Any advice I may be able to impart, I'm here.
I just took a quick look at your chart. You're a double Cancer. On the chart I looked at, you are extremely close to a leo asc, but according to the chart I'm looking at. It's technically in Cancer. Cancer sun and rising sign. I have to look that up, but it's nice to meet another double sign.

Again, good luck with the luck Mr. Virgo.
VirgoSquared

Loonybird, we sure are. What are the chances?

Sure, I'll email it to you. It's 2:25 in the morning here, so it'll probably be tomorrow when I look through it.

Again, I'm happy for you. I can see you beaming from ear to ear through my screen. Keep us informed.

VirgoSquared

Hi Everybody!
I have surprised myself! Remeber all of you my screaming at top of my head and declaring my passion for the champagne eyes, deep voice Mr Virgo? well to my utter surprise i am now indifferent to him. from top two days his champagne eyes look like stale choclate and his deep voice sound like he could do with some gargling.
So it is all dying out before it even started!!!
What Ya say to that——?

crazy crazy
loonybird.

I say you are a woman with a mind and a mind is for changing!!! And most importantly as one very wise Virgo said to me (Q) it is also important to mind our change.

You're not crazy - just livin life 😉

Hi Freebird!
I am concerned for my Mr Virgo. You see when i had expressed my doubts due to our age gap,i felt like the more vulnerable one. But Virgosquared pointed out that it could also be ht eother way round. that is, Mr Virgo coming out of it hurt. I htought that could be the possibility as i the kind who can pull myself out of hurtful situations real quick. But now seeing how Mr Virgo looks upon me fo rmoral/emotional support i have realised that yes he stands to get hurt more. See for Mr Virgo sexual relation with me maynot have been the main focus of our friendship. He could live with or wothout it. But for me my interaction with him was a package deal. it was desire+friendship. Now that the desire seems to have gone, the friendship thing also seems to be at a cooler temperature-all of a sudden. Now my challenge would be to always be there for Mr Virgo whenever he requires me for moral support like it used to be.
loonybird