Mature Cap Commitmentphobe (Page 2)

lol,yeah that might freak em out a little.

there's so much more to us than just our sun's,it would really help finish the puzzle to know your charts.

hope I didn't offend you capguy.

it matters supremely in my scheme of things.
pm me your's too,and where you both were born and we'll get a chart.

Posted by capguy
Uh oh... what was supposed to offend me? I better get to the bottom of this.

I better try harder then. 😛

although I did call you saggy,instead of saggi.....lol

There are so many other random coincidences between him and I and our history together. There are things that have revealed themselves to us over the past 7 months that are more than coincidental. In the beginning we used to say that our attraction was because we knew each other in another place and time. He'd say to me during our talks that we'll always be connected to each other because the bond is from forever ago. We thought it was college or somewhere else, but that wasn't so. As time went on, we found that we had friends, family members and acquaintances in common from different periods in our lives over the past 20 years. I know it sounds strange and trust me it was strange to discover these commonalities. I would have probably walked away from this months ago just because it's somewhat in my nature to bail if things start to feel like they're just beyond my control. But I've stuck this out because I felt there was a greater reason for the two of us even knowing each other. Again, I know that sounds strange, but it is what it is...

I think they all want to think they have the freedom,that makes them feel free.but they don't all want to exercise that freedom.
not all of them.

sounds like you have some south node contacts,and or vertex.

good Lord. :/

Posted by BellatheBull
sounds like you have some south node contacts,and or vertex.

that was @ musigal.

heh heh,I'm a geek. 😉

Posted by CappyyLuv30 The stuff in bold, I've said. LOL....I am loyal to the end but I need things on a constant change if not I get bored. I promote personal growth and spontaneity as long as it doesn't affect the relationship. I'm all for keeping things fresh and spicy! 😉

Hehe ... well that simplifies things ... I'll just leave it to my Aries venus then 😛 ... thanks Cappyluv 🙂

no,sag would be great for you.
it's best when it's in the same or complimentary element,like fire/fire or fire/air.

@Cappyluv - I don't believe in coincidences either. I believe that everything happens for a reason. There are too many overlaps in our lives over the past 20 years (mind you I've only known him for the past 7 months). I wasn't even physically attracted to him when we met out at a random public place, not a blind date or anything. We just happened to both be at the same place at the same time and connected. And we just talked for hours and hours for weeks on end. I didn't even keep his phone number because I wasn't interested. Somehow we reconnected after that first week with no contact after our first four hour conversation and it's grown from there. He jokes a lot about making me honest, giving me his last name...being the Clyde to my Bonnie. In some strange way I think he idolizes me, maybe for my associations and connections, who knows. I do know that I don't want to be seen as a valuable asset or commodity that he wants to acquire. Now that's ridiculous but there are times when I wonder if he sees me completing his "sphere of influence" or being useful to his business. Does that make sense? I hope I'm still making sense at this point. Ugh

oh wait,you're the sag venus....same thing tho,just reversed. 😉aries would be great with you.

Isn't the same rule for sun applies for Venus placements?

Aries is most compatiable with Sag and Leo .. so I thought the same goes for venus placement 🙂 ... I could be wrong though

karmic connections/fatedness occur with the nodes and vertex.
wait I forgot to look at yours...lol.
do you want me to post them here? I pm'd them to you.

yep,your n. node is Capricorn. 😉

Thanks BTB. You can post them. Will you tell me what all of that means though because I am confused and I'm too old to be this confused. :/ Thanks.

Sun Capricorn 27.10
Moon Scorpio 24.22
Mercury Aquarius 2.33
Venus Aquarius 7.11 R
Mars Taurus 9.18
Jupiter Aquarius 18.10
Saturn Gemini 29.17 R
Uranus Libra 27.40
Neptune Sagittarius 8.51
Pluto Libra 6.49 R
Lilith Capricorn 17.16
Asc node Sagittarius 28.21

now on those I sent you, don't pay attention to the ascendant and houses,because without a birth time,we can't get those right.

Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Libra 0.29
Moon Leo 22.57
Mercury Libra 16.23
Venus Scorpio 12.00
Mars Taurus 9.09 R
Jupiter Aquarius 2.20
Saturn Cancer 4.15
Uranus Libra 21.59
Neptune Sagittarius 5.04
Pluto Libra 4.09
Lilith Capricorn 4.21
Asc node Capricorn 3.13

keep in mind without your birth time,we don't know which side you are on...

Posted by CappyyLuv30

Posted by BellatheBull
oh wait,you're the sag venus....same thing tho,just reversed. 😉aries would be great with you.

Really? Hmm....the boy I met yesterday is a fire sun sign with a watery venus. The previous boy was an earth sun sign with a watery venus. My ex-hub is water sun sign with an air venus. I guess water follows me. LOL 😛

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just keep your umbrella handy 😉

Thanks Bella! You're awesome. I second CappyLuv

Posted by CappyyLuv30

Posted by BellatheBull
Sun Capricorn 27.10
Moon Scorpio 24.22
Mercury Aquarius 2.33
Venus Aquarius 7.11 R
Mars Taurus 9.18
Jupiter Aquarius 18.10
Saturn Gemini 29.17 R
Uranus Libra 27.40
Neptune Sagittarius 8.51
Pluto Libra 6.49 R
Lilith Capricorn 17.16
Asc node Sagittarius 28.21

now on those I sent you, don't pay attention to the ascendant and houses,because without a birth time,we can't get those right.

Another venus in Aqua!?! I am speechless. This board continues to attract these guys LOL wow....smh.

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every Aqua I know has Aqua venus.what I'm impressed with is the number of pisces mooners on this board.just what I'm looking for,but can't seem to find in rl :/

Posted by Museigal
Thanks Bella! You're awesome. I second CappyLuv

most welcome.🙂

I will look them over in a bit and tell you some of the finer points I see,but have to go for a bit.

Bella when you say "which side I'm on" do you mean virgo or libra? ugh

Posted by BellatheBull

Posted by CappyyLuv30

Posted by BellatheBull
Sun Capricorn 27.10
Moon Scorpio 24.22
Mercury Aquarius 2.33
Venus Aquarius 7.11 R
Mars Taurus 9.18
Jupiter Aquarius 18.10
Saturn Gemini 29.17 R
Uranus Libra 27.40
Neptune Sagittarius 8.51
Pluto Libra 6.49 R
Lilith Capricorn 17.16
Asc node Sagittarius 28.21

now on those I sent you, don't pay attention to the ascendant and houses,because without a birth time,we can't get those right.

Another venus in Aqua!?! I am speechless. This board continues to attract these guys LOL wow....smh.

every Aqua I know has Aqua venus.what I'm impressed with is the number of pisces mooners on this board.just what I'm looking for,but can't seem to find in rl :/

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meant every Cap.

Posted by Museigal
Bella when you say "which side I'm on" do you mean virgo or libra? ugh

yes ma'am. 🙂

@Kay - Listen don't project your issues on me. Obviously you don't have any male friends who you've never dated and/or who aren't head over heels for you and want to screw you, like your married male best friend and all your other little boy friends. Unlike you, I DO have male friends who are not trying to screw me or date me or have anything more than a non-physical platonic friendship with me. That said, both the Scorp and the Sag are married men. I thought I mentioned that but maybe you didn't read it while skimming through and cherrypicking quotes. Grow up immediately and go get some superglue because you are broken and in serious need of repair.

And stop generalizing. It's not becoming...

this Taurus has been single quite awhile now,because I'd rather die alone than be with the wrong person again.
do you actually KNOW any Taureans?
doesn't sound like it.sounds like you read some stuff,and believe it.
you're wrong,and it makes you look silly.

I'm single by choice,until I find the right one.
I wish for love,as all human beings do.just as you do.
but,I like myself,and I'm happy being with me until the right one does appear.I don't need a place holder.
I don't get jealous of people in love,because I will have mine when the time is right.
and I'm sorry,but not all Caps are bitter.you want love too starks,you just pretend you don't because you're afraid of failure.
the wall you are putting up to hide behind,is the one keeping others away.

starks,you come across as very confrontational and defensive.I see thru the hot air....it's a gift.*shrugs*
you can pretend all you want,and some,maybe most of these people will buy it...but I don't.
Taurus is also famous for being loners,look it up.
your attitude is a defense mechanism,because you are afraid of being hurt.you are on the offensive,to self protect.
I'm not judging you,not criticizing you.but it's very plain for me to see.

as far as waiting to be rescued....wtf? how does waiting for the right one = rescue?
it beats the hell out of brawling and fighting with the wrong one,and not being able to let go. 😉
but I understand,you don't want to look weak.I get that.
you are a tough cookie.baaaaaaaaaad aaaaaaaaaaaassssssss.

I also have a Pisces moon,and I smell bullshit. 😉

but feel free to carry on,I'll play along.

kstar, bella is just saying her thoughts don't take it too personally 🙂.

Your friend used to tell you what you should feel? ... I know that feeling, my mum was like that always, she always assumed she knew how I felt and what I wanted, 2 years back she stumbled upon a guy that she thought was very nice and try to hook me up with him ... imagine that! ... it took me a whole freaking year to convinve her and all those idiot around me that I don't like the guy ... and everytime I said that she tells me that I am lying to myself! what on earth? ... I told her that I am about to finish my studies and all I wanted to do is focus on my career, I didn't want anyone, just my freedom and career ... yet she kept on insisting ... whatever I said didn't get across ... she kept doing that until she drove me away ... I just left and never went back ... and on my way to independence i found mr. capi ... how ironic? lol

I'm not comparing myself to you.we are two different people.
but I'm directing at you,because you keep making statements about yourself,and saying "WE',as if you all are like this,when I know for a fact you are not.I have close Cap's in my life who are NOT like this.
well,one is...and she was born on the 23rd.she was always a hateful person,from childhood til now.ex sister in law,I had forgotten until now.
so....never mind.that clears it up for me. 😉
and it's not really the love thing,you do it your way...my blessing.although you seem to have a problem with our's and virgo's enjoyment of it.
it's just the chip on your shoulder in general,and the fact that I am afflicted with picking up on people's feelings.
you've thrown your Taurus beliefs around like they are true,so...I'm giving you my insight.
if you enjoy being icy and impersonal,that's your prerogative.
I can't relate to that,no.Taurus is just the opposite.

and maybe your Taurus friend just cared about you? we are funny like that.we want our people to be warm,loved and happy.
I apologize for this,horrible behavior. 🙂

thank you ox. 🙂

hug? 🙂

lol

😢

ice,ice baby.do do do doooo do do do. 😉

I put the wrong bday in for musiegal.....so here she really is.

Sun Virgo 20.11
Moon Pisces 26.08
Mercury Virgo 29.03
Venus Libra 29.42
Mars Taurus 8.55
Jupiter Aquarius 2.41 R
Saturn Cancer 3.42
Uranus Libra 21.23
Neptune Sagittarius 4.52
Pluto Libra 3.45
Lilith Capricorn 3.10
Asc node Capricorn 4.21

I'm going to bed starky poo,but I do hear what you are SAYING.and I hear the way you've been saying it.
you're fine the way you are.but just remember,when a Taurus is around ice,we have a need to melt it.we can not help it.
I know there is a gooey center in there somewhere.I can always feel it. 😉
Taurus and Capricorn are both very strong,and we should (and I do)admire and respect that about each other.
one of things I've always enjoyed about a tau/cap relationship is we lock horns and really tell each other how it is,but we can also see in each other what others can not.and like it or not,we really are very similar,and we do understand each other.
and when we love you,you ARE our people and we are yours.you love that and you know it. 😉
and career's are wonderful,but they don't keep your feet warm at night.😉

Posted by CapGal
The OP is no different from the many women we meet on this and similar boards who try to squeeze commitment from unavailable men. I believe she's gotten enough commom sense advice here. Capguy, about 90% of the things we do daily is as a result of social construct, and if we had free will we'd do otherwise most times. We have no problem working our asses off, no problem spending countless hrs getting a formal education etc, why then is it such a burden for us to practice monogany? Your earlier argument is nothing more than your own self served meal ticket to they huge buffet of all available pu $ $ ies. Shame on those who have no belief of their own so they fall prey to the BS you post here. Shame I say, shame. LOL

Capgal - Maybe you interpreted my original and subsequent posts the way you wanted to and you have that prerogative. But the fact is that my friend has said repeatedly that he's trying to build something with me. That he wants to let it grow over time. In seven months we went from friendship to relationship in his mind...all without me getting a formal announcement. I'm okay with things progressingly slowly since he has told me on many occassions that he is in fact "available" (who was it that kept saying Caps don't lie). My issue is reconciling my desire for exclusivity (right now) with his need to let it develop over time. That said, I'm mature enough to understand that my decisions to not initiate communication with him and to not be intimate with him might very well result in him freely filling up the space I occupied with someone more willing. As I have said before, I am 100% okay with that b/c I'm an adult. I'm desirable and I have options just like him. He knows that. What's more important here is that I'm adult enough to understand that men and women are wired differently (for the most part - not 100% of the time) when it comes to relationships and intimacy. What he might be able to engage in with the opposite sex callously, I cannot. I am from Venus just like you.

For the record, God gave man and woman "free will". Remember the situation with the apple in the garden, that was free will...there was no society back there to stop that from happening. Of course, this is all in the context of your personal beliefs. I summoned Capguy, and other men (as well as women) who have what in my opinion is a unique perspective on the "weirdness" th

Posted by ellessque

so the end of my previous message is...

For the record, God gave man and woman "free will". Remember the situation with the apple in the garden, that was free will...there was no society back there to stop that from happening. Of course, this is all in the context of your personal beliefs. I summoned Capguy, and other men (as well as women) who have what in my opinion is a unique perspective on the "weirdness" that seems to often be associated Cap men's behavior.

Elle~ You're funny. Sorry about the head spinning so early that's just me being me. How about I give you mine and you can have two Caps...oh joy!! 🙂 I read your message about the placements and my response as you probably can predict is I look at everything through my personal experience lens.

Posted by CapGal
Oh sure, I identify with this situation so much. I'll flirt like hell when I'm on a date with a guy I'm not really into, however, if I like my date, then I usually become very quiet ( i hate when that happens!!). There's a guy at school that I admire alot. He is always sending me sweet little messages via one of my girlfriends When our group went clubbing at the end of last semeter, I danced with everyone else except him. At school I avoid this guy like the plague.

The beautiful but SCARY part is usually after you've pushed them away, then they come running expressing an interest. That's when I start thinking, DAMN!! Is this really happening? and my poor heart begins to race. Shoooo....that's too much emotions to handle!!

@Capgal...This is how you sounded in 2006, while still in school. You still have not evolved. As a matter of fact you might have devolved. Get a few more life experiences under your belt and then come back and trade advice with the grown ups. Geez, maybe we need a childish rant filter on this message board.

Posted by CapGal
Museigal, there was a "society" in Eden; God made rules, told them not to eat o the tree, but they did hence the consequences. The consequences for having more than one sex partners at any one time is so mininal in modern societies, so people like capguy jumps on the polygamy bandwagon to justify their promiscuous behaviours.

Capgal...Pluralism is biblical. It's as old as the Bible and goes back as far as Genesis. Our society, Victorian, Elizabethan, American, and so on denounced pluralism and now it is man's law that says one man/one wife. I think that's great cause I wouldn't want to be married and sharing a man.

Don't go and misquote me...I'm not touting polygamy as right, just stating the facts. But if you want some real live people who you can touch and feel to convert other than Capguy...you can always go to Utah on holiday. Happy trails!

Posted by CapGal
Museigal, I,m very much the same now as in 06, can't get over being nervy around a guy I truly dig, but if things take off I go back to being my old logical self, saying what I want and not settling. And if that's childish then I'm thankful there's still that little girl in me that helps me thru the tough times

It's a shame that you haven't evolved since then. And it would do you good to sit back and observe the discussions that take place on this and other posts between people who have lived a little longer and who have had to make difficult decisions about complicated issues. I took three months and read through this entire message board. Partly because I like to learn, but partly because I never want to be ill-informed spewing crap at people without getting the story straight. Save "the little girl in me" sob story for somebody else. You'll do what you did here on someone else's post in the future b/c that's what you do around here. I've seen you do it many times and you should be embarrased for being SO judgmental!

Posted by CapGal
Museigal, get over your bitterness, its a new year, so change your focus will ya? I doube you read all these posts otherwise you'd be more enlightened about the ways of pretentious men. How many of these similar stories have you read where women come here, defend these men despite tikki's and others advice, only to return months or years later all broken up when the guy decides its time to reveal his true self? If you have indeed read the stories, then please apply some of the valuable lessons to your own situaation, as hard as it may be

LOL @ Capgal. It's 2011, so please evolve. You're so young and silly and green. That's funny. Now I'm bitter? That's rich. LMAO. ROTFL. Isn't it awful when your words come back to haunt you. If we just stay true to ourselves, we won't have anything to regret! YKWIM... Keep it in the road!