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Ya give it some time. We're not too good with calling people back if we are not in the mood for it. I dunno about a month but 2 weeks is a respectable wait. I know I typically callback within 2 wks or I'll reply with a text or email if I'm in my withdrawal mood. I am rooting for you Ms Scorpio and GreenEyedGemini!! 🙂 Stay strong and be prepared to move on just in case these guys stay MIA.
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CapAngel,

How often do you go into a withdrawal mode? I guess I just don't understand waiting 2 weeks to call someone back, however it seems that that was the time frame for this Cappy. Now the interesting part is going to be him responding to my phone call on Friday inviting him to dinner this upcoming Saturday. I asked him to let me know by Wednesday. Dollars to donuts I don't hear from him. Even if his intentions are good in my opinion that would show a lack of class, rude and downright unacceptable in my book. It would also show a lack of respect. If a gentlemen left the same message for you how would you repond? My daughter is a Cap and I know she hates the telephone and doesn't call back unless specifically asked to for a specific reason. I asked her why and her comment was "if I had wanted to talk to them I would have made the call". I guess this makes sense but it sounds so unsocial. She's married so she may see things differently. My brother is also a Cap and his behavior is terrible. He waits at least 2-3 weeks before returning my call if there is no specific timeframe required. The more I read the more I question whether I really won't to get involved. This seems like a lot work and guessing games. As a Scorpio I need someone who keeps their fingers on the pulse. Not someone who doesn't return calls and disappears for long periods of time. I just don't get it. If you are really interested in a guy and he calls frequently do you take the calls or wait days or weeks to call. I do remember reading the book called "He's just not into you". Specifically it mentions if he doesn't call, he's not into you. Wow....does this apply to Cappys?

MsScorpio
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msscorp~
I read that same book, and well Im not sure if that would apply to these men... however it could be a possibility. So i guess im not much help!! lol The book was good but i also looked into other aspects like how they were raised, have they ever been burned, what are thye going through at that moment what kind of stress are they under...and those are not questions just for cap men it goes for all men..? I always have lots of why's & questions. I have also read men are from mars women are from venus and it was kinda a contradiction (to hes just not into you) to how men respond to women...!! Like the fact some men use the rubber band affect when they feel that they are getting to close to a women they pull away then spring back...but who knows men are all different and well you never know which one your gonna get or how to handle them? LOl

mr.8~ are you taking notes on what msscorp mentioned mental notes buddy mental notes!!

capangel~ Thank you for your support it really means alot... through the years "3" most of my freinds have given up on me thinking im crazy to even be thinking about him... and well im begining to think that im going nuts too!! lol but sice I have texted him up until the day he called and he did not respond to eaither im not sure if should conitinue to put forth effort or just sit back and go with the flow? The last thing I want to do is play the waiting game...I have alot of knre exciting things happening in my life so that should keep me from being disapointed. Im not usre when I would call again? I dont want him to think im desperate or needy and the last thing i want is for him to think im stalking him!! lol I have decided that im not going to send him text messages I feel that this might be a way for him to hide and have full control. If i call i thinks its a lil more complicated...

I think imentioned that he moved down the way from me about 5 short blocks. I have no idea whats going on wiht him job, living arrangments ect. I htought that maybe he might be involded and maybe tliving with someone (girl) but my freinds seem to think that if i was a bother and he was with someone he woudl tell me that!! But who knows!!

ahhhhhhh lol

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GEG

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No I ended things with Pisces... on good terms we have not spoke in 6 days...thats the longest lol... but I have not had any want to contact him. I care for him but we need to give it sometime before we try to be friend-friends... its hard after you come out of a relationship especially when you want to be friends we did not want things to get ugly or messy!! Its better this way..

as far as cap yes we have seen eachother driving and i have seen him driving! He did see me at a resteraunt when I was with Pisces... however I did not see him only his truck parked right in front when we left!! other then this only the text.. oh yes there was this one time last april I was at a club and he showed up after im sure his friends called and said I was there... my friends said that he appeard to be scanning the place for me!! I had just called pisces to pick me up right before i saw him soooooo... it was for a brief second! LOl
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Ms Scorpio,

I go into withdrawal mode anytime I'm hurt or stressed. I'm a moody Cap, I have a strong dose of Cancer in me so I go into withdrawal mode when I'm moody which is quite often (sucks but it seems so hard to break out of this habit). I find that I only keep in touch with my Pisces friend who understands this behavior, identifies with it and doesn't judge me as weak or weird. I am a strong person and resilient but it takes me time to get out of bad moods. So I am reluctant to start relationships because if the person doesn't seem to "get me", I get scared I'll be rejected. So I don't know about your Cap and what he goes through or his state of mind.

My Scorpio met me as I was having my worst heartbreak so I was pushing Scorpio away and tested him big time because I wanted to know if he would stick around (or was just into sex or non-committment). Once I noticed that he seemed to be really into me and gave me such heartfelt compliments and so much attention, I gave in to him slowly (5 months). I was very interested so I always took his phone calls. If I wasn't in the mood to talk, I'd cut the convo very short or not answer the phone. I always called back when I got myself together and had courage but thats because I didn't want to lose him. If I am not interested in a guy at all and I think he wants more than platonic friendship, I will bluntly let him know or avoid him and hope he never contacts me again.

With my female friends that I am not close to (meaning if I'm depressed for some reason and withdrawing, I cannot tell them because they will judge me or show me pity which is bad), I will not call them. I will only keep in touch sporadically via email but they won't hear from me via phone. When they do call, I won't answer. I will return the call that week or 2 wks the most (if I'm really depressed it takes longer to want to be social).
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MSScorpio,
Venus in Sagitarius (your Cap guy and I have this) likes the beginning of a relationship to be light, friendly, flirty, and without expectations of strings attached. Its best to go with the flow and not get too heavy or intense too soon, follow his vibe. I think the best thing is to approach him in a non-chalant, cool but friendly, casual way and start a friendly convo. Then when he responds favorably (meaning he is looking at you and engaged in the convo, if he seems detached and standoffish it means he don't like you or is antisocial), before you leave tell him to not be a stranger and keep in touch and say (with a smile) unless you are not interested, just say so and I'll leave you alone, no big deal but I rather know since you been unresponsive to my phone calls. This will give him the chance to respond to you honestly without feeling cornered and realize he been a jerk for not calling you. Its easy to feel claustrophobic with Venus/Sag so the more you seem non-chalant and just being friendly, the better.
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So if I was him would I call you back? Hmmm depends --if I'm interested, yes I'll call you back before Saturday (and by Wednesday if I accepted the dinner date). If I was not interested, I'd try to find a nice way of saying sorry and couldn't go and only want to be friends, nothing more. Or I'd avoid you if I didn't care to deal with rejecting you, its not easy rejecting someone and most men will take this route and avoid you if they are not interested.
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CapAngel,

I think if you are still with your Scorpio he has an Angel. You are really quite good at articulating your feelings, even for a Cap. I am so sorry you have to go through those horrible withdrawal periods. That cannot be fun. Thank you for all the information and answering my questions honestly. I appreciate your honesty. I'm headed out of town for a few days and unable to email but will post when I return. This Cappy has had a chance to be blunt with me and say he wasn't interested but he hasn't. My intuitive gut says he won't call through. Last time I talked to him he had terrible family problems with son and grandson so I have no clue where all of that is. But, I have already made up my mind that if he doesn't call by Wednesday, this Scorpio will move on and I'll be able to bring closure to a short but sweet tryst. Hold on, maybe not so sweet after all. LOL. Take care and thanks again.

MsScorpio
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I agree with capangel
If the guy has his venus in sag, that gives him a lighter disposition...so you don't have to worry to much about his moods. But he definately won't want to be too intense in the beginning. Intense after the initial courtship i'm sure. I still say give it some time.
My scorpio had to do this with me. She was really patient and won me over. I sort of think that patience might me the name of the game in most cap/scorp situations.
My scorpio had a bad week/weekend, so she spent the time to herself. So we swich sometimes and she is the aloof one. I did let her know I was going to be there when she needed me to. and I think that is all she needs when she gets in her "moods".

My advice for MsScorp and all the ladies wondering what the hell is going on with the cap; if he is still calling or even responding to not being able to meet up for a date; just be friendly and let him know you are still interested. its not like he is 'intentionally' testing you. He just plays for keeps as well, and doesn't want to get involved with someone who may only be looking at him for his money or time. Us cap guys don't like being used.

Oh, and if you say you are going to do something, than do it. We despise flakey people.
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Cappy8,

I'm so lucky my son left his laptop at home for me while I babysit. That was a treat as I hate to be away for days with no internet access. I hear what you are saying but the Cappy pursused the hell out of me. He was absolutely relentless. This is just what I don't understand. We don't even know enough about each other to make any kind of judgement calls. I just get such a feeling that perhaps this turned out to be all about the chase. I do believe he is very moody but he certainly wasn't the couple of times I was with him and then all of a sudden he turned into a different, cold and distant person. This was of course after we had been intimate. I tell you I would have had to beat him off with a baseball bat that's how he was. Of course we were drawn together like 2 wild animals. Cappy8 I don't know how much you've read but we are not kids. We are over 50 so I know some things are different. I do know he has had 2 marriages and I think quite cautious. He told me he had not been intimate in over a year and had a date for over 9 months. So I guess I just find his behavior a little strange. That's really why I decided to invite him to dinner so I could know one way or another if he's still interested. I would just think he would make some attempt if he was. I'm really confused. He was so intense when we first met. I really didn't see him as a player either but who knows. I sure don't.

MsScorpio
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Awwwww....
Msscorp, I just want you to know that I have been keeping you in my prayers, I hate to see youhave to wonder about this after you put such a long time into your marriage!! Its like bring me happiness PLEASE!! I think its great that you can be strong enough to walk away if you have to!!


As far as being married twice...? Would you say that is odd for a cap man? I thought when they are in it they are in it? and two divorces? We need to know for sure that there is nothing wrogn with him j/k lol ooor am I? we may be on to something!! Keep your chin high girl!! We got your back


GEG
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GEG,

You are so sweet and thanks for all your support. I truly know if this Cappy took the time to get to know me he would would see I'm not the run of the mill know of woman. He did make a comment like that when he met me. I just feel he has so many issues or is scared to be involved again that I won't have a chance. There was something truly so magical when we touched each other. I've been single for 7 years and never felt that before. Damn, I just get the feeling I'm not going to get that chance. I do believe it will be his loss. I wasn't married all those years because I was a bad person. And, I was married to a Leo who now regrets never putting me first and not taking care of me all those years. We are good friends though and we both know mistakers were made on both sides. As a Scorpio it is not in my best mental interest to be single. I a truly happiest in loving relationship and could get totally lost in the right person. That can be a problem in itself as we tend to become obsessed. Thank you for your prayers as I really wanted to give this a try.

MsScorpio
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MsScropio
"You can rest assured that my pride will not let me ever call him again if he does not contact me by Saturday"

I thought so, our pride is very high and it will not allow us to look bad.

And I think that is what a lot of women look when they are constantly calling, making arrangements to do be with these men and they stand them up don't call and say they can't make it, that is so inconsiderate of people and I will never understand why people do that.

When I was with my ex cap I never made plans I actually let him make all the plans, he took me out to eat he fixed dinner for me all the time, he took me to the Warf for seafood....I just went along and told him what I wanted. And I know there is a special love that we both share for each other, and a memory that we will never forget.

Just move on and live you life you will be fine....Hell I am not even seeing the Libra anymore....and I don't need closure I called him on friday so he can see what he paid 200.00 for and he never called me back. I don't do no chasing as far as I am concerned, it was over the next day when he just did not call. It does not take a rocket science to know in your heart that he is just not going to call you. I have no desire to call him and ask him why? Somethings you just don't want to hear, you know what I mean.
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MsScorpio~~ Yours is a classic commitment-phobic Cap. The hot pursuit followed by withdrawal is what happens. He didn't plan it or set out to conquer and then move on. They think at the time that it's what they want (you) but then the fear sets in and it overcomes everything else. It's NOT you, it's him. The background info. about him not dating or being intimate for all that time should alone tell you this. You saw him chatting up new ladies at the club bc. that's far easier and they pose less "threat" than a more serious connection. Please prepare yourself to not hear from him at all regarding your invite. Just get yourself prepared for that. From my experience with this, they cannot plan ahead and commit even to an invite/date when it gets to this stage. If you don't hear from him, I'd honestly try to not put any more energy and effort into pursuing or figuring him out. If he comes back around, you can decide then what's what.
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ScorpionLady and CapGirl,

You have given good advice as well as everyone here really. I don't expect him to call. But for me, I had to put a timeline in place. That way I can bring closure and not look back. Because someone that does not respect you enough to return a phone call after an invite is not going to respect you any other way. It's really that simple for me whether they are a Cap or not. Integrity, manners, honesty and the like are all part of character and that is what I'm after.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond. I have too admit this forum has certainly helped with the healing process.

MsScorpio
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ScorpionLady,

About the pride thing. Damn, we do have it don't we. Frankly, I would have never called and invited this Cappy to dinner if I hadn't wanted to get to know him so much. What I have learned since being single (and it's totally within our personality) is to go after what you want. If you sit by idly you may never know. For a Scorpio this was a hugh risk of looking stupid. I was willing to take this risk. I figured the worst he could say is no. Cappy's don't have the lock on rejection. We loath it. I take rejection personally even when I know it's not always me. At my age now and what life has taught me I will go for it every time, risk in all if it means that much. LOL. This did and I'll walk away feeling rejected but we have such a unique way of bouncing back. I will learn from this but know I did what I had to do. I would not have done this 10 years ago.

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On not responding to reject the invite-- I've learned that this is the odd thing that some Caps do. I even do it myself sometimes with some people. I'm not defending it- it is annoying behavior. It depends on the way the invite is made I guess. If it's a group invite with several people being included, I won't feel compelled to call just to say "no" and if it's like "Call me IF you want to ... x, y, z... " I won't respond to specifically say "no..." I think some of it has to do with not feeling important or specifically wanted that leads to this behavior?
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Regardless CapGirl, it is just out of respect that you call and say you can't make or something, But had it been the other way around and he called her and she did not respond to the invite, hell A cap will probably not call her for a bout 2 weeks or more. So my question is what makes them so right that they can do that to people is what my point it.

It does not matter about what sign you are it is RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION for that individual.

MsScorpio

I took risk like that when I was younger and it all went sour so I've learned over the years to don't do that. I am glad that you did it I tried to tell you to be prepared for the outcome. Well look at it as water under the bridge no since in crying over spilled milk. If he wants you he will come and get you.

There are people that I meet and want to get to know also but if I feel a hint of suspect in this person, I would go into it lightly to see if it is worth taking the risk.
This Cap had showed you the signs that you should have look at. I am not trying to jump on you but in the future open you eyes and see there is always a sign to let you know something is not right no matter how perfect the night may have been. That is why they say love is blind.....
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CapGirl,

If I hear you correctly, even if the invite was specificially for you
and you didn't want to go you would just not respond? I can almost and I say almost see it if it was a group thing and nothing reall specfic and an invite that would only be the two of you for dinner.....damn, I'm lost on that one. I thought Cappy's had no problem being blunt and telling it like it is. Help me here.
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ScorpionLady,

You are so right but the funny thing is I found this forum. If I hadn't read about Cappy's and their behavior I would have probably moved on already. Kind of makes one think. Remember, I have no experience at dating. I was married my entire life from age 19 and married my childhood sweetheart. This is a work in progress for me. I'm sure this won't be the only time I get slapped in the face. I just hope I get better at recognizing the signs.

MsScorpio
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Wow this is great. I'm learning so much about you girls.

Scorpionlady:
I agree with you about the respect thing. But I also agree with bittertaurus. There is probably something else going on right now that is taking him away from his current interest.
I can attest to this: Sometimes we don't get it, really.
Would it be too blunt just to ask him whats up and how he feels about the situation? I kind of like that, but thats me. OR

you can just play the aloof card, don't respond to him immediately, and see if he likes it when you play hard to get. That gets me sometimes too.

He probably just realized that he really liked you after the initial stage. Just wait and see what happens this week. and trust me, he won't fall for anyone else in a week or even a month if you decide to wait.
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Good Morn... Um...well its mid morning here!! lol Hope everyone is having a great day!! I have loads of energy today however I dont want to use it working...ha ha yet im stuck in the office!

You know I have been reading and looking at all this and well, it made me think about something I wrote about in ?regrets??on here somewhere! And well I'm not really sure any of us can tell another person what they should. Only give us their opinions and share their own personal experience. To maybe lead who ever in the right direction! Ultimately the person is going to do what so many of us have been told to do ?follow your heart, go with your gut instinct?. This is how we learn and grow as individuals. Our instinct in life is to try to help, but I'm begging to feel like GOD wants us to trust him. Trust in him that he has a plan for us and that everything happens for a reason ; ) It may suck but if we turn to him I'm sure he will lead us in the right direction even if is painful. Who none of could be right for the men in our lives? I don't believe it has to do with the fact that they care Capricorns or Pisces?or what ever the sign I think it has to do with the people that God has already chosen for us?! So yes we can love, wish and hope that the men /woman we would love to share our lives are who we picked?but my friends we don't get that say so. I say enjoy the feeling they bring you, but know that whatever the out come, whatever comes in our direction will be spectacular!! Hope everyone is having a great day

p.s. have NO REGRETS


GeG~
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GEG you are so spritually I just love it. I feel all your words. I have always believe that our lives are planned out for us and I have come to the conclusion that if it is meant for me to be single then so be it. I always said that if I am not married by the time I am 50 then I will probably never get married. Well I am 45 been proposed to three time and told them all no because I knew in my heart that 2 of them was not right for me to marry. But the last guy who proposed, I did not say no, he just up and married becaus he wanted a boy to carry on his last night and I could not do that (tubes tied) I can respect that but when he called and told me he made a mistake I knew he will always regret it. We are still friends, but I could never marry him.

I am happy with my life and all that my GOD has given me. All I can do know is try to give people that I meet my experience in life, a litte wisdom, a lot of belief and hope and most of all strength to go on when things seems so so bad, because really the Lord don't give you no more thatn you can't handle and I live by that.

You have a good day.
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Thank you Scorpionlady!

Coming to this site is so much and you get to hear so many different peoples story!!And when good things happen with the people we care so much about its so much fun to come here and share and give others the hope that something amazing will happen to us..lol "hopless romantics" I say!! Whatever the cause Its fun, and it is neat to see that most cap have cap. qualities, and gemini, scorps, and so on!! However I think that if all of us ran the birth chart thing we would see soo much "truth" in those and then we would see things that we are nothing like! wanna know why? Cause we are all different and only God knows the ways...However it is very entertaining!! But I dont live my life by those!! LOL

I hear the new 20's is your 30's and so on and so forth!! 45 is still young...sweetie 🙂 My dentist chick said that her 40's have been the best years of her life!!! WHOOO HOOO I cant wait. My daughter will 18.... you know how fun that will be!! If Gods plan for you is to be alone...well then there is somone else who needs your attention for the time being, mom, dad? Children, grandchilden...or possibly God telling you...you need him for the time being and giving him all that love..he he

thank you for all of your "experience in life, a litte wisdom, a lot of belief and hope and most of all strength to go on when things seems so so bad," it really does help 😉 even if it does sting a bit... but you are a scorp!! lol

love, GEG

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GEG
"thank you for all of your "experience in life, a litte wisdom, a lot of belief and hope and most of all strength to go on when things seems so so bad," it really does help even if it does sting a bit... but you are a scorp!! lol "

LAMO that was funny ha ha ha

Hey I have been working on keeping my stinger in tact. LOL I would rather walk away then be vindictive. But if pushed I know I have a back up.

Yea of course 45 is young and I am having the time of my life, meeting a lot of people and learning more and more along the way.

I know we have had I difference but let me THANK for being a friend. I am really proud of you and all that you are doing. Keep it



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Good Morning CapAngel and others,

No, Capppy didn't call. I was certainly hoping he was going to be different than most but I guess that was just too much to ask.

On another note, I ordered Christian Carter's DVD set for "Natural Attraction for Everlasting Love". Very powerful to say the least. I've only watched the first 3 hours but very insightful into men and the way they think. The one that jumped out right away was why men pull away and are distance after being intimate. His explanation was really quite so simple and it had to do with men getting back on task. They realize they have a goal or task and they can't let intimacy get in the way. So, they have to pull away and distance themself so they can complete their task or goal. Of course this is somewhat over simplified but you probably get the message. Lot of good information. If I can retain and apply what I learn I'll be armed next time I go to the club. Hopefully I will have learned how to attract the right one this time....lol.

Thanks again for all your support and caring. What a great group of people to share with. I am now ready to move on and see what new adventure I will embark upon.

MsScorpio
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MsScorpio~
I'm sorry that you didn't get your call. The way I look at it the less time invested the easier it is to move on! I'm sure you will find someone worth all your efforts. And I will continue to keep you in my prayers ; )! As for me I didn't get a return call either I waited 5 days then yesterday I call again from my cell? no answer his phone rang 7 times?then to voicemail. Instead of leaving another voicemail I left a call back number? I'm not to worried about it! Yesterday my girlfriend said you know Brandy once you let it go is when things happen!! And you know she's right that happens with all things.

Anyhoo, best wishes. Oh and please keep us posted on your videos!! I love those things!!


GEG
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The book "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" also explains why men pull away ("the rubber band effect"). I love that book and it sure helped me communicate better with guys. I think both sexes can benefit from it. From their website : "This is actually a very normal process that most men experience in intimate relationships. Called the "rubber band," or the male intimacy cycle, it's when a man vacillates between being close to his partner and then pulling away. Men do this for many reasons, the least of which is to connect with their more masculine side and focus on the activities that make them a good provider and partner. And while this is a normal and natural part of all healthy relationships, it is very confusing to women. In fact, according to the women who visit MarsVenus.com, it is the biggest source of frustration and pain in their relationships."

I honestly don't understand why they don't warn us and tell us that they are doing this. It is a similar behavior pattern when they lose interest so its hard to tell the difference.
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cappy8,

I went back and reread some of your posts pertaining to your Scorpio. Being a Scorpio I find her behavior somewhat odd. We do not want to sleep around, we do not necessiarily want our freedom in the way she spoke...we want to be in a monogomous, loving relationship. That is our whole persona. We are absolutely at our best when in a relationship. I recall you did say something about saying things to make her jealous. This is absolutely "deadly" and about the worst thing you can do to a Scorpio. You need to know we carry a grudge forever and never forget when we've been wronged. Not a pretty trait and one I can't stand in myself but it's true nonetheless. Perhaps she was just saying she wanted her freedon and sleep around because you had not become intimate. Scorpios need an emtional, physical and intelletual connection in a relationship. All 3 of those components are essential. I, for one, am not going to stay with someone without being intimate. In fact, I won't even date a man if there is no chemistry from the beginning and the possibility of a relationship. Hence, I don't date very much. lol. We don't take realtionships lightly and when we are in one we are totally immersed and actually can become obsessive and possessive. For some men this can be great, for others detrimental. I am very selective with whom I choose to spend time with. Whether this be just a friend or in a relationship. We are very picky indeed. You are both still young and perhaps this plays a role in your day to day interactions. If I were in her shoes and you apologized to me, sent me flowers etc., if I cared for you I would let you know. Remember, we are very proud and stubborn but really just want to be loved and cherished by someone. Keep trying a little longer. I really feel that if she feels something for you she won't let it die. We are just not like that. Good luck and do what feels right in your heart.

MsScorpio