This is to every sign.......

Do you think when someone gets mad and says things to you and I'm not talking saying I hate you, well that to but more serious things like saying " I'm glad your mother's dead " and he said this when he was so angry with me.

Among many other mean things, But do you believe he or she means those thing they say or do they really say them to hurt you?



Now me, if I say something to you when I'm mad then it is true. I'm not just tying to hurt your feelings I'm being 100% honest.

But I'm honest with people 99.9% of the time.



Just some food for thought. ??

"Lacks character immensely. "

Agreed.

The whole "people saying stuff they don't mean when angry" is bullshiit.

Anger is an inhibition-killer. When you're really angry, self-control can easily go out the window and you end up saying stuff you normally wouldn't dare say. But that doesn't mean you don't actually mean what you say.

Quite the opposite. Anger is an outlet for the truth.

Yes I agree, but he called me later then apologized for everything that he said. But at that time I didn't know he said that. I thought that is what I heard him say but in my head I was thinking no he couldn't have said that. No one would stoop that low regardless of how mad or angry they were at you. But yes I recorded him when he was talking to me like that and when I heard that he did say it, well let's just say I don't get mad very easily but when i do watch out. But my sister who is usually the one that will go take care of something she just kept telling me to calm down and wait. But if I don't do something when I'm truly mad then it won't happen. Let's just say he had god watching over him but maybe it was the devil himself and god was watching over me......

He said many other hurtful things but I didn't think that was normal for someone to say something like that. Maybe he is the evil person that I saw...... this is why I'm confused.....

I say some things I would later regret when I'm angry but more sarcastic bitch things. I would never say I'm glad someone was dead. That is soo far over the line!

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Posted by BuffaloBills28
Whoever says "I'm glad your mother is dead", just shows a person who has an extremely evil, evil soul. I'd cross a person like that out of my life immediately. That's way crossing the line.. That must be one pathetic individual to be talking about a persons dead mother. (or any family member for that matter). Wow. Only a rat like person can sink to lows like that, that's a sewer type of low. It's really, really low. Lacks character immensely.

THANK YOU!!!!!

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Now you see why I need to see him in person. I need to know if he is someone that has problems or if he's actually evil. And I don't use that word lightly.....

See why I'm confused—?

If I put everything on here about this relationship or what ever the heck it was I could write a book and probably sell more copies then 50 shades of grey.....

If someone ever told me something like that I'd lash out, and I'm not talking about with words. That is the unforgivable, and saying something like to the wrong person is enough to get you killed.

A type of person like that shouldn't even be talked about on here.

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I'll use my example I told ex I hated him

N he divorced shortly after.

Didn't take into consideration I had my last chemo weeks early

Had jaw pain n I feared it might be cancer.

I had to plan a move from my home

I had to figure out a way to muster energy to paint my home to put it for rent.

Did I over react maybe but could he not see all I was going through

Was it true yes in that moment

oh geezes - you got divorced while going through cancer treatment ? wow - my ex sounds similar so I can certainly sympathize

so in a span of less than 5 years - synopsis:

- my now ex got mad at me once when I was in recovery from cancer - he said he was going to leave, not now because I was sick but when I got better - I had cancer / treatment and was in recovery and on pain meds - he said he would be right there supporting me - that lasted about 2 days - then I found the start of a small diary one day that said all I do is lay around and don't cook or clean

- then I went back to school while working full time so had both full time - he said he would be supportive but would wake me up at 3:00 in the morning to ask me why his white socks got dirty while walking on the floor

- still in school but almost finished, I found emails between my BFF of 40 years and my then husband talking negatively behind my back ... they accused me of "hiding" lol - yes, I was trying to work, go to school full time and stay away from all the drama they were causing

- very long story but I divorced after I finished school - it came to a climax with both of them - I'm a much happier person

Wouldn't be so quick to label a person evil. While that statement is indefensible, many people are capable of saying things they wouldn't otherwise say in the moment, especially if they have been hurt (there is no more dangerous an animal than a wounded one). You have only provided his words to you, not what you said or did prior to that statement. Again, that doesn't make his words ok, but I wouldn't slap someone with the "evil" tag until there is more context.

Trust me I wouldn't use the word evil lightly. Nor would I call someone evil unless I had good cause. But that is why I'm confused. I'm confused because of the good he has done but confused from the bad that he has done.

I know everyone has problems in relationships but he messed with my head so much I don't know which person he really is.

I even wrote on another part of this site about if someone could be demon possessed. Yes it might seem far fetched but if you read what I wrote you would be wondering also.

But when you are with someone you love them for there good and the bad traits because no one is perfect. But he referred to him self as Hyde, and when Hyde was mad watch out. The things he would say wasn't right nor normal and I let him know after he said something about where my sister needed to be I told him to never say something like that again and I don't want to see this person Hyde come out anymore. And he kept him at bay. But yes he would refer to him self as Hyde..... Maybe he does have multiple personality disorder but when he asked me what I thought of the real him, well let's just say it wasn't normal. Very weird and scary actually. But I will know which person he is when I talk to him. Then I will have my closure.....

Posted by daron76
Wouldn't be so quick to label a person evil. While that statement is indefensible, many people are capable of saying things they wouldn't otherwise say in the moment, especially if they have been hurt (there is no more dangerous an animal than a wounded one). You have only provided his words to you, not what you said or did prior to that statement. Again, that doesn't make his words ok, but I wouldn't slap someone with the "evil" tag until there is more context.

Wth. He is beyond mean and evil for that.

Posted by Aquarius_confused
Trust me I wouldn't use the word evil lightly. Nor would I call someone evil unless I had good cause. But that is why I'm confused. I'm confused because of the good he has done but confused from the bad that he has done.

I know everyone has problems in relationships but he messed with my head so much I don't know which person he really is.

I even wrote on another part of this site about if someone could be demon possessed. Yes it might seem far fetched but if you read what I wrote you would be wondering also.

But when you are with someone you love them for there good and the bad traits because no one is perfect. But he referred to him self as Hyde, and when Hyde was mad watch out. The things he would say wasn't right nor normal and I let him know after he said something about where my sister needed to be I told him to never say something like that again and I don't want to see this person Hyde come out anymore. And he kept him at bay. But yes he would refer to him self as Hyde..... Maybe he does have multiple personality disorder but when he asked me what I thought of the real him, well let's just say it wasn't normal. Very weird and scary actually. But I will know which person he is when I talk to him. Then I will have my closure.....

Again, story stays focused on his words/actions- even when asked specifically about yours. I will stress again that anything you did or said doesn't justify his statement, yet it does allow a 3rd party make a more objective analysis of the scenario at hand and thereby offer you a better opinion as to what may be going on. Think of it this way; context is what separates murder from self-defense -- we all acknowledge that killing someone is horrible yet context makes one punishable, the other less so( if at all).

Further, omitting information that may make you seem less reputable isn't clever, it is dishonest. You claim to be here looking for help to understand the situation but fail to provide the pertinent information to allow others to give honest and thorough opinions. Which would make it seem like you are here more for moral support- which is all well and good. Just be clear about that upfront so that those of us who are actually trying to be helpful don't waste our time providing help that was never really wanted in the first place.

Best of luck.

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Posted by daron76
Wouldn't be so quick to label a person evil. While that statement is indefensible, many people are capable of saying things they wouldn't otherwise say in the moment, especially if they have been hurt (there is no more dangerous an animal than a wounded one). You have only provided his words to you, not what you said or did prior to that statement. Again, that doesn't make his words ok, but I wouldn't slap someone with the "evil" tag until there is more context.

All that these kinds of rationalizations and justifications for despicable behavior/actions serve is further encourage mistreatment while keeping the recipients of said treatment in perpetual limbo of cognitive dissonance. JC...*smdh*

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Well, you may be the one person left on this earth to not have made a mistake but, for the rest of us human beings, it is a wonderful thing that we judge the behavior of each other on the totally of the circumstances and not just one person's version of events. Additionally, I did not rationalize his behavior- at all. On the contrary, I clearly stated (which you quote) that his statement was indefensible. Please try reading the things you quote fully before forming an opinion as to what they say.

Usually when someone says, "I'm glad your mother is dead... (followed by)...so she didn't see you like this" there's a story behind why the person went there.

Op...What's the whole story here? You seem to be leaving out quite a lot in order to paint him the villain and you as the victim.

What led up to his harsh words...?

I remember this Gemini dude who had the love of his life cheated on him. He loved her to the core. It pissed him off and mentally destroyed him. Then he resorted to drinking. While he was drunk I visited him to try and talk to him. I told him that he needed to stop drinking and he retorted back that I need to let him fk my wife. Then he fucking punched me. As much as I wanted to hit him back, I used so much will power to hold myself back. Despite his current predicament. I just walked out and let him stew. Next few days following that incident, he ended up in jail for DUI. He called me asking for bail. I told him fuck off and sit in there.

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Posted by daron76

Well, you may be the one person left on this earth to not have made a mistake but, for the rest of us human beings, it is a wonderful thing that we judge the behavior of each other on the totally of the circumstances and not just one person's version of events. Additionally, I did not rationalize his behavior- at all. On the contrary, I clearly stated (which you quote) that his statement was indefensible. Please try reading the things you quote fully before forming an opinion as to what they say.

At least you have one thing right...I am infallible! Saintly even! My avi is the indisputable evidence of it. But I'm afraid my divinity isn't the subject of the discussion at hand.

What is, however, is, once again, justification of previously mentioned behavior by means of questioning OP's sincerity in addition to contradicting yourself within the first two sentences. While I do not advocate trusting blindly, all the context one will have presently at disposal, is the masses of posts OP has already created. I'm also afraid her side of the story is the only one that will remain unless her object of obsession joins the discussion.

With that said, considering this caps age (54 if my memory serves me correct) and the context OP provided thus far, his actions remain evil.

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Seeing as I only wrote 4 sentences and the first one was directed at your "saintly" self , I guess you are implying that I contradicted my self in the second sentence and the third, which, given those statements doesn't seem likely. Further, it is incumbent upon the OP to provided the details and context of their own story, not upon us the readers, to search all the forums and do research on the back story- which is why people keep asking for more information. Finally, if you want to label him evil based upon what you know, that is perfectly fine and as a valid an opinion as anyone else's. Criticizing others for not being privy to the same information you may or may not have and not offering an opinion until more info is provided , seems a bit much. This sort of hyper-reaction makes it seem like you may be prone to flying off the handle also-- much like someone else mentioned in this thread. Would be a shame if we levied judgment on you as a person based on this example, wouldn't it?

My mother passed way but, no one never told me

they're glad my mother is dead. My mother was very popular and nice. People love her and fact people who I don't showed up to my mother's funeral. Now when my mother's mother on the other hand isn't very nice so... yeah lol there are so many stories my mother told be about her mom.

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Posted by daron76
Wouldn't be so quick to label a person evil. While that statement is indefensible, many people are capable of saying things they wouldn't otherwise say in the moment, especially if they have been hurt (there is no more dangerous an animal than a wounded one). You have only provided his words to you, not what you said or did prior to that statement. Again, that doesn't make his words ok, but I wouldn't slap someone with the "evil" tag until there is more context.

All that these kinds of rationalizations and justifications for despicable behavior/actions serve is further encourage mistreatment while keeping the recipients of said treatment in perpetual limbo of cognitive dissonance. JC...*smdh*

Well, you may be the one person left on this earth to not have made a mistake but, for the rest of us human beings, it is a wonderful thing that we judge the behavior of each other on the totally of the circumstances and not just one person's version of events. Additionally, I did not rationalize his behavior- at all. On the contrary, I clearly stated (which you quote) that his statement was indefensible. Please try reading the things you quote fully before forming an opinion as to what they say.

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I will be the first person to say that in have made mistakes. I'm not going to put exactly what he did to me but I did forgive him but if you can think of the one thing that almost every woman would never forgive a man for doing then you know what he did. I honestly thought he was sorry or I even wonder if it was a defense mechanism to not believe that the person that I just told a few weeks prior that I trusted him and felt safe with him for him to do this to me. I still can't comprehend why. So I did talk to his mom but I never said what happened, she guessed. But when I fried to talk to him about it he would get mad so I would shut down. The night before he became angry with me is when he was acting really weird and saying things that didn't make simce, that is when I picked up my dog and we to bed because I had no clue as to what he was doing was really him or if he was being stupid.

The next day he came in and asked if he could ask me something and I said yes. Then he was like never mind and I said, no go ahead and that is when he asked me what I thought about the real him. I asked what is he talking about and that is when he said the real him and started doing the same thing he did the night before. I told him I didn't know who or what that was. He said it was the real him. I said no, I know you, the goofy you and the one you refer to as Hyde but I don't care for him and I don't know what this is but maybe crazy you. And I said you know I don't like stuff like that so quit. And he quit as fast as I asked him to and waked away but that wasn't the end of everything. He laid on the bed staring at me. I asked him what was wrong and he said you know but I didn't. Then he said I know that you have been talking to my mom and I was like so. Well one thing led to another and I told him I was done because he threatened me and I seen it in his face when he said it. He was angry and followed me where ever I went and was right on my back looking over my shoulder, I told him I'm just getting my stuff and I wasn't going to take anything. Yes he scared me but I tried to make it not show. But he said what he said to me all because I was going to tell him mom goodbye and that I will miss her. And because I said that he threatened to do something to me. But when I got ready to leave he started crying and begged me to stay and forgive him. He said he didn't know why he acted or would say the things he would say and just cried. But I told him I don't think I could forgive him and I have forgiven him for many things that I don't know if I could forgive anymore. Like I have said before, you love people for who they are and I did but when this new person or what ever it was came out I didn't and still don't know if it was another personality or just him being dumb.

This is why I need closure. I can forgive and forget even if it truly is another personality but that don't mean that I have to be on his life. Maybe I still believe I can help him and by showing him that he is lovable might help him. Maybe not if he truly does have multiple personalities but if he just has issues from a bad childhood. I don't know, I guess I can't get people to understand that I need to know which person he is so I can move on. Whether it be moving on that he just played me or move on because he does have serious issues and maybe he couldn't help all that he has done. But it will help me. And right now that is all that matters is me. It might be 3 months, 6 months or even a year from now that I get up the nerve to see who he truly is but when I do I will be free......

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Posted by daron76

Posted by DonumDei

Posted by daron76

Well, you may be the one person left on this earth to not have made a mistake but, for the rest of us human beings, it is a wonderful thing that we judge the behavior of each other on the totally of the circumstances and not just one person's version of events. Additionally, I did not rationalize his behavior- at all. On the contrary, I clearly stated (which you quote) that his statement was indefensible. Please try reading the things you quote fully before forming an opinion as to what they say.

At least you have one thing right...I am infallible! Saintly even! My avi is the indisputable evidence of it. But I'm afraid my divinity isn't the subject of the discussion at hand.

What is, however, is, once again, justification of previously mentioned behavior by means of questioning OP's sincerity in addition to contradicting yourself within the first two sentences. While I do not advocate trusting blindly, all the context one will have presently at disposal, is the masses of posts OP has already created. I'm also afraid her side of the story is the only one that will remain unless her object of obsession joins the discussion.

With that said, considering this caps age (54 if my memory serves me correct) and the context OP provided thus far, his actions remain evil.

Seeing as I only wrote 4 sentences and the first one was directed at your "saintly" self , I guess you are implying that I contradicted my self in the second sentence and the third, which, given those statements doesn't seem likely. Further, it is incumbent upon the OP to provided the details and context of their own story, not upon us the readers, to search all the forums and do research on the back story- which is why people keep asking for more information. Finally, if you want to label him evil based upon what you know, that is perfectly fine and as a valid an opinion as anyone else's. Criticizing others for not being privy to the same information you may or may not have and not offering an opinion until more info is provided , seems a bit much. This sort of hyper-reaction makes it seem like you may be prone to flying off the handle also-- much like someone else mentioned in this thread. Would be a shame if we levied judgment on you as a person based on this example, wouldn't it?

Contradiction I was referring to can be found in your original post; not the one directed at me personally thus i happen to be implying diddly squat. You on the other hand, in a predictable fashion and in an effort of discrediting opposing view, chose to go the rout of insidious character assassination.

Furthermore, as you so eloquently stated, if you or whoever else chooses to cast whatever judgment upon my person, it does not rob me of my sleep for the only judgement I do care for is that of my loved ones. All of us are judged on a daily basis one way or another. *shrugs*

As far as it being incumbent upon the OP to provide the context, again, she already did. Never mind that most people don't even bother reading lengthy post (cue TLDR). Damned if you do; damned if you don't! Oh, and one more thing before I bounce...you read my comment regarding her previous posts as criticism?! Oh dear...

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Im sorry for causing so much confusion me but thank you for taking up for me. At least I think that is what you were doing. Lol

But your right I have tried to write about it but people don't want to read it because it's long and I can't put what went on in just a few sentences. Again thank you.?