I trust you

How easy it it for you Leos to do this? Do you usually feel trust right away for someone you love? Is it possible to still love someone and not trust completely? Someone please spill ...

Ok, I have to add more.

I love a certain ex. I always will. But I will always have trust issues (I've just recently been accused of by a certain virgo). Someone will say to love completely you have to trust. But I still FEEL love even though I may never trust anyone. Ever. I love as much as I am capable of..... Is how I see it. Which is still alot and which is still forever. No matter how much I hate them lol

Soooo ....

This is the recent argument ...

Him: You say you love me then you should trust me. Trust should come first until proven guilty.

Me: Trust is earned. And I do love you. But you need to understand, it takes me awhile to become completely sure (of trust). Years even, maybe. And if you do love me as much as you say you will trust yourself enough to know you can HANDLE IT. It shouldn't even be an issue if you are sure you can be trusted.

In my eyes, he needs to trust himself for this to go away instead of making it an issue.

Does any of this makes sense?

Sure this belongs to the relationship forum but I LOVE and TRUST you guys lmao!

... but no I dont want to open the door to hell inside me to you... it is to protect both of us and our relation.... BUT if ever I find you to be the kind of perosn that is able to understand and comprehend ,, then perhaps I will....

bingo. Thank you. There are just certain things I am not ready to share. This is a huge issue right now. He is trying to force me to open up and the more he tries to force the less I want to tell him.

...Wow purrrfect the both of us are seeing virgos, they are very interesting to know.

This 5 minute relationship ended this weekend. We are so much better off as friends. He left me for this reason. We did so well as friends. He called me from Ariz. to tell me he regrets leaving but he feels he has gone too far to come back. He made his decision.

And you know what else is KILLING me? He tryied sooo freaking hard to convince me HE was the one. And now this shit. OMFG!

*searches for vodka bottle*

The moral of this story?

Always trust your gut ladies.

I swear I saw this coming.

...my question is....what did he think you were not trusting him on?...

As if this rant is not bad enough lol

Certain things I've been dealing with for a couple of years. Things I'd love to share with someone...... who understands and can hold back their opinion 🙂 But that takes time. Not everything can be fixed.

He feels hurt that I won't fill him in on every detail of me and this makes me appear not to want him in his eyes. He thinks I don't care.

... my virgo proudly says his motto is "talk to me"....

This is exactly what he wants from me. He says you can talk to me ... it doesn't mean it will always change things but you can.

Ok. If I am going to share with someone it's in the hopes of changing things. I have Virgo in my chart as well and I do love the communication between us (it's what brought us together) but there are some issues that take a certain care with words. What sucks is that he and I really get along well 99% of the time. But this one little thing and he's out of here. As a Virgo he should know things take time.

I blame other planets lol

.. I have told the deepest recesses of my soul mostly to my scorps or aqua...

Scorp and Cancer for me.

leokitten,

I have a hard time with judgmental too. Sometimes what we need is just for someone to be there and SHUT THE FUCK UP please.

... I am honestly quite manipulative of the given situation to find a way out without it turning into a battle of will... and I admitt I do tell my guy that 'I trust you'... quite often so... sounds bad of me but that keeps him happy and that is enough for me...


lol! Sometimes I wish I could do that with a straight face. It would save a lot of time and trouble, huh? But I swear, If I did that with him he would see right through me. He knows me. I have a hard time with insincerity.

...my mom, a libra, is pretty judgmental....

He has Merc, Venus and Mars in Libra. Not to mention a Gemini moon. Add Virgo and you can imagine the Judgement. He swears he isn't though. Okie dokie.


...the thing i cannot say is "i love you" i think i have a problem....

Why is this even necesary? There are so many better ways of SHOWING it.

.... but then i have that perfectionist streak (a lot of virgo in my chart)...

Me too. Rising and Venus. Now I want to know your placements please.


...i need to get over this...

No you don't. Whoever begs to hear it needs to get over it if they can't feel it for themselves unless you say it. Does that even make sense?


....this weekend was the perfect weekend. the aqua bf, who is super nonromantic...arrives with an arrangement of all my fav flowers...we have an amazing dinner...see a girl movie (he suffered thru) and amazing sex....and i almost did...but then i was so afraid the obstacle of it in my mind would ruin the otherwise perfect day....aaargh....

Ok, I'm officially jealous. Please keep this thread negative or else you are going to make me cry. (joke)

...Saying you should puts a condition on your love....

Exactly what I told him. And he is verrry demanding. I was so shocked when he left I cried so hard I thought my knees would give. Because he told me he would be patient. He had me almost convinced.

...Why can't people just enjoy being with each other without getting so demanding all the time....

Does this even exist?

...but I am so damn honest in other parts that he can never guess the other evasive me...

Haha! Sneaky sneaky. Teach me please.


sun: leo
moon: gemini
rising: libra
mercury: virgo
venus: virgo
mars: virgo
saturn: leo
neptune: sag
uranus: scorpio

eek. Sorry for talking all that crap about gem moons and libra/virgo placements. Want me to hook you up? :p

Sorry, I joke a lot. Maybe too much.

I can imagine stubborness being a problem between to fixed signs (oposites no less)

....lol. plus, i am all that is good in those combos....don't you know??...

Yes of course. A Leo sun can save all that I guess

*waits for thrown fruit*

... there is no such thing as 'unconditional love'...

Nope. I still love my cheating pisces ex-boyfriend. Not enough to stay though.

Although I can honestly say I have this from my family. I've put some through hell.


..our big issue right now is he is so introverted and his family is weird...

He has those cappy placements. You charts do look compatible though. Everyone has something they have to work through. There is no such thing as perfect. Unless of course you're me. 😛

I so wanted to work through all this.

He actually WANTED me to fight with him. He raised his voice for the first time ever with me this weekend. I have a hard time with that. He said we 'needed' to duke it out. I said I needed to step away and calm down before I said something I regretted. Which to me, seems healthy I HATE to scream and yell. He said if things don't get resolved that very minute they become unhealthy. We both raised some pretty good points. I stepped out anyway and he left for good.

HA! A Virgo begging a Leo to yell at him. How funny is that.

...i mean he is thirty!!! stop being afraid of mom...

lmao!! I'm sorry that's just so funny.

....we get brilliant and on a roll and say some real shit....

YES this is true for me. If I am pushed and not allowed to cool off something WILL fly out of my mouth and I warned him of this. Yesterday he pushed me so far I told him I hated him. Of course I told him this while he was packing. When we spoke on the phone when he was in ariz I apologized my ass off. He told me he knows I don't mean it and would rather I told him that in the heat of the moment instead of holding it all in. Why—

...is he addicted to drama or something?...

yes he is. Self admittedly even. All his placements scream communication and arguing is usually the downfall. I love a good debate every now and again but not when it's hurtful.

...and he said 'dont ever walk out without expalaining..

OMG same here!! I even get 'don't ever walk out on me' period. Not even for 5 minutes.

Jeez, I just needed a minute. And I took it. He had threatened to leave before I walked out the door. I left anyway. Bad move.


... they just can'nt take it..


He straight up told me he couldn't handle it. omg archer, how do I make him come home? He said he wants to but has now gotten himself stuck in another commitment. I told him to come home anyway. He says we need to talk first and he needs to fulfill his current commitment.

...you cannot make him come home. he needs to come home on his own....

Dear lord I am so aware of this. I know I can't control him or anyone. And even though I hear this reasoning in my head (aqua moon) The urge to do it is strong anyway. Stronger than my reasoning. And I am normally the most reasonable person I know.

....and he cannot dictate all this. whya re you letting him set all these guidelines?....

Because right now I am a damned fool lol

I knew I would become one. Someone needs to slap some Leo into me right about now. Where is my pride right?

....your virgo conversation reminds me of a virgo i was with in college. we had this one major fight that involved going back and forth between two rooms...yelling, screaming, slamming doors...each person walking out on the other and the other following just to repeat the cycle. finally...i cried and he relented a little. i told him he needed to apologize for his behavior...and HE DID!! which was pretty amazing, because, i will admit this now...i was totally wrong.......

Okay, for such a non-dramatic sign they sure love stirring shit up. Not ALL of course, but so many I know. And he did apologize to me.

I also half way hammerred right now. I'm sure tomorrow I'll wish this thread away. You guys are awesome. I really needed this.

....put away the phone!!!!

seriously. hide the phone. please....please hide the phone.....

lmao!! I seriously considered it. I really did. Calling him that is lol



...we walked away. how dare he do that? how dare he decide to end it with you!! leo pride has been wounded....so instead of lashing out...

Maybe my pride is wounded. He promised me he would never do this. He says I promised him the same thing. How is FIVE minutes the same damn thing? He says he couldn't handle that and it's the same as cheating on him because I want to go somewhere where I may be better understood. He doesn't want someone to understand more than him.

Damn, he 'says' a lot of things doesn't he. Maybe he should stop talking.

..you are playing nice and sweet in your mind...

Not playing. I am serious as a heart attack. I didn't want him to leave. He says he feels like I didn't want him. I don't ever want him to feel that way so now my brain is working overtime as to how I can convince him this was just his imagination. Because I can see how not sharing can do that someones head. I am not as open as this man is. I am right now, I am drunk.

I promise not to call him though lol We've said enough to each other for one day.

archer, thank you. You hit on a lot of 'spots' for me. I'll do my best to give him time and take your advice.

...hmmm...you literally left the room and he got that pissy— wow.

well..sounds like some time to cool down will help....

heh. Yeah literally. Looks like I'll be married to DXP until he comes back.

...i think of it like a diary that talks back...

lol Next entry ... Tuesday Feb. 22, 2007.

The day he made it home and promised to call me so we can 'talk'

This will give me time to brush up on some astrology.

*searches for new victims*

Ok, email your info ...

Not in the format your provided earlier but in time, place and date form because wheels provide actual degrees. I'll email you tomorrow.

please keep in mind I am not a professional. I just like my dxp pratice.

*practice

sober up chick!

🙂

Tuesday February 20, 2007 (entry)

Lots of knee shaking today. I wish the stupid phone would throw itself out the window.

Saturday February 24, 2007 (entry)

Been on the phone all day with a Virgo man. Negotiations have been made and I gave him the argument that he needed to change his mind in the way only a Leo/Virgo/Aqua can provide(sincerely of course. After I reminded him I held the Key to his W2 form). Turn around time currently still in pending status. At this time all apologies have been accepted. Progress has been made. It has been a good day.

At this time I would like to thank the Leo board for listening to me bitch.

Thank you. 🙂

..R u intrigued by him—?...

oh Hell yes.


yesyesyesyesyes

This isn't completely over. I haven't won anything yet until he comes back.

..Did he say when he was coming back? Or is the door open...

We haven't gotten that far yet. He says he really wants to come back and pours on the 'I love yous' but I will not push the issue any further with him. I did my part and made it clear he was wanted here. I have promised myself I wasn't going to bring it up anymore. He has a way of coming back to subjects when he is ready. I am biting my tongue.

...i am confused as to where exactly he is.....

Too far away from me lol

Yes, we rented a place together the end of November. We've been friends for a couple of years and decided we got along well enough to try this. It kinda evolved.

He packed his stuff, he attempted to move but now says he wants to come back.

drama 🙂

Yes, just friends. Very close friends.

Why all the questions leokitten? This is kind of just a vent thread, really.

The attachment was very close. We were already close before he moved in. In fact, last week was the longest we hadn't spoken in about a year. So yes, I was very heartbroken. He is also my friend and it hurt.

You did once mention you were a lawyer, right? I can see how the bigger picture is important. Thanks for caring as much as you do to want to understand.

Hope your confusion has been cleared up hun.

Tuesday March 6, 2007 (entry)

After a lot of talk and missing each other this man has asked me to move to where he is now. To save money for a couple of months, pack all my stuff (my life) and move to a place that is nothing like where I live now. My first reaction was .... YEAH okay! Then I remembered I have a good job here with good benefits and MY family. He said he had no intentions of it being over between us and that he needs to be closer to his grandparents because they are ready to pass. The upside of his request is that the cost of living is a million times lower than living in Los Angeles. My job offers the opportunity to transfer all over. Not sure yet if his place is one of them. He feels that the upside is that if I have to step out for a minute he knows exactly where I am. As if he didn't before lol (he said that jokingly of course but I know somewhere in the back of his head he was serious)

I've done this before. I have uprooted my life for someone else and promised myself I would never do it again. I am 31 years old and a part of me thinks I am too old for this crap.

I have a lot to think about.

You know what chocolate? Thank you. I love your advice and I will pray on it.

...How do u really feel about him?...

It's real. 🙂


....Weren't u guys already living together?....

Yes, that's changed for the time being.

....Wow this is exciting...... as the world turns for ms. purrrfect.....

haha! I KNOW!!! I LOVE it! :p

Thanks leokitten, proceeding with caution is exactly what I plan to do. : )

.....she will make the right decision for her and her family.....


Yes Stay Tuned. 🙂


chocolate, do you remember the 'closet' advice? About a week after you gave it I did just that. It was intended for someone else. This is what landed in my lap. How funny is that? Right now that 'area' is still left unoccupied. That just stayed with me for some reason. I am very superstitious sometimes lol

I have until June to make a decision.