DiscoveringME
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Leo Men and Cheating... I need help!
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I'm sorry to hear you've been through this.
So this man was disrespectful enough to sit in the background calling you a liar—
Why would you not just cut your losses and start the healing process?
Let this new woman deal with this poor excuse of a man, his lies and cheating.
So this man was disrespectful enough to sit in the background calling you a liar—
Why would you not just cut your losses and start the healing process?
Let this new woman deal with this poor excuse of a man, his lies and cheating.
Sorry all, I am new to this and my original post was cut off... I will post it again.
Hello!
I am a virgo female who has recently broke up with a leo male. We dated for 5 1/2 years and I believed that we would be together for the long haul. Recently, I found out that my ex cheated on me in the month of January. Initially, when I asked him if he was unfaithful, he denied it, and said, "NO!" However, when I told him how I knew that he really did cheat, he finally admitted to it. The entire time, he said, "this doesn't feel right," "I've been exposed," "I used her," etc...he even cried. I am so hurt because this is someone that I really loved deeply and someone that I did so much for while we were together. I helped him with his children, his family, his career, and supported him emotionally and physically. After finding out about the cheating, I asked him why he did what he did, and he said, "I am weak" and "that we were having issues."
Yes, we had disagreements from time to time but I was always willing to communicate and he would be the one to get hot and cold. Even when I tried to talk to him, he wouldn't speak unless he was ready to, and even though we had arguments, I never went out and cheated on him. So, I told him it was over. Anyway, the first two weeks after our breakup was brutal, I couldn't eat, I barely slept, and I didn't hear from him at all. About almost a month of no contact, I receive a text message from the same female that he cheated on me with, asking, "When was the last time that you saw or spoke to "Tom" (my ex)?"
A few minutes after the text, she calls me, and I answered the phone. During the conversation, she told me that they had been talking since November and that he asked her to be his girlfriend in January. She started off by asking me some questions but all of a sudden I could hear my ex in the background scream, "We were off and on," which is all false. In fact, we were together up until I found out about the cheating. Btw, the new girl had me on speaker phone and he was there with her! What initially started off as a phone call between me and this girl, ended up being an argument between my ex and I about what was the truth and what was lies.
Oddly enough, when I first found out about his cheating, I asked him how he knew this female and he said that he met her through a friend, another lie -- they met at the mall.
After finding out that not only was my ex cheating but talking to this girl since Novemb
Hello!
I am a virgo female who has recently broke up with a leo male. We dated for 5 1/2 years and I believed that we would be together for the long haul. Recently, I found out that my ex cheated on me in the month of January. Initially, when I asked him if he was unfaithful, he denied it, and said, "NO!" However, when I told him how I knew that he really did cheat, he finally admitted to it. The entire time, he said, "this doesn't feel right," "I've been exposed," "I used her," etc...he even cried. I am so hurt because this is someone that I really loved deeply and someone that I did so much for while we were together. I helped him with his children, his family, his career, and supported him emotionally and physically. After finding out about the cheating, I asked him why he did what he did, and he said, "I am weak" and "that we were having issues."
Yes, we had disagreements from time to time but I was always willing to communicate and he would be the one to get hot and cold. Even when I tried to talk to him, he wouldn't speak unless he was ready to, and even though we had arguments, I never went out and cheated on him. So, I told him it was over. Anyway, the first two weeks after our breakup was brutal, I couldn't eat, I barely slept, and I didn't hear from him at all. About almost a month of no contact, I receive a text message from the same female that he cheated on me with, asking, "When was the last time that you saw or spoke to "Tom" (my ex)?"
A few minutes after the text, she calls me, and I answered the phone. During the conversation, she told me that they had been talking since November and that he asked her to be his girlfriend in January. She started off by asking me some questions but all of a sudden I could hear my ex in the background scream, "We were off and on," which is all false. In fact, we were together up until I found out about the cheating. Btw, the new girl had me on speaker phone and he was there with her! What initially started off as a phone call between me and this girl, ended up being an argument between my ex and I about what was the truth and what was lies.
Oddly enough, when I first found out about his cheating, I asked him how he knew this female and he said that he met her through a friend, another lie -- they met at the mall.
After finding out that not only was my ex cheating but talking to this girl since Novemb
November, meanwhile, he was spending every holiday (Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's Eve) with me, I felt totally betrayed and hurt. I hung up the phone and instantly felt like I was floating. How can you be with someone for so long and try to devalue you, discard you, and disrespect you?
Although I will not take my ex back, I still think about him, and it frustrates me because I feel like what he did is despicable.
Is it normal for a leo male to break up with someone that they've been with and show no remorse?
Is it normal behavior for a leo male to talk bad about you after a breakup?
After all of this I still wonder if he is thinking even a little bit about me, silly I know.
I guess I am writing to just get some insight on the situation. I am really trying to focus on my life and move forward but I can't help but to feel anger when I think about how his "new girlfriend" called me and he totally denied me in front of her. That whole situation made me feel like I took three steps back from my healing process.
Although I will not take my ex back, I still think about him, and it frustrates me because I feel like what he did is despicable.
Is it normal for a leo male to break up with someone that they've been with and show no remorse?
Is it normal behavior for a leo male to talk bad about you after a breakup?
After all of this I still wonder if he is thinking even a little bit about me, silly I know.
I guess I am writing to just get some insight on the situation. I am really trying to focus on my life and move forward but I can't help but to feel anger when I think about how his "new girlfriend" called me and he totally denied me in front of her. That whole situation made me feel like I took three steps back from my healing process.
Posted by seraphPosted by DiscoveringME
A few minutes after the text, she calls me, and I answered the phone. During the conversation, she told me that they had been talking since November and that he asked her to be his girlfriend in January. She started off by asking me some questions but all of a sudden I could hear my ex in the background scream, "We were off and on," which is all false. In fact, we were together up until I found out about the cheating. Btw, the new girl had me on speaker phone and he was there with her! What initially started off as a phone call between me and this girl, ended up being an argument between my ex and I about what was the truth and what was lies.
This is just bizarre.
And the rest of your post got cut off (word limit.)
Did you have a question?click to expand
Sorry about that, I just reposted the first and second portion. Actually, I am really trying to understand how he could do this to me. It's as if he never even cared and I am trying to get some sort of insight.
Posted by MadMarchRam
I'm sorry to hear you've been through this.
So this man was disrespectful enough to sit in the background calling you a liar—
Why would you not just cut your losses and start the healing process?
Let this new woman deal with this poor excuse of a man, his lies and cheating.
Yes, exactly and I am still stuck on the very fact that he could be so cruel. I know that I need to cut my loses and move on, it's just that I feel so hurt and so betrayed...and so confused. Like, how could you treat me like this? Also, for his new chick to call me out of the blue about a month later, just when I was feeling a little bit better really angers me. Ever since then I can't stop having these intrusive thoughts like: "Why would he do this?" "What is he thinking" "Did he ever really love me?"
I guess I am going through the motions but I will get over this, eventually!
Posted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRam
I'm sorry to hear you've been through this.
So this man was disrespectful enough to sit in the background calling you a liar—
Why would you not just cut your losses and start the healing process?
Let this new woman deal with this poor excuse of a man, his lies and cheating.
Yes, exactly and I am still stuck on the very fact that he could be so cruel. I know that I need to cut my loses and move on, it's just that I feel so hurt and so betrayed...and so confused. Like, how could you treat me like this? Also, for his new chick to call me out of the blue about a month later, just when I was feeling a little bit better really angers me. Ever since then I can't stop having these intrusive thoughts like: "Why would he do this?" "What is he thinking" "Did he ever really love me?"
I guess I am going through the motions but I will get over this, eventually!click to expand
It really is awful when this happens. Unfortunately there are nasty, horrible and totally selfish ppl out there that do this without blinking an eyelid.
It will eventually get better. It is a long process to go through, but you will hopefully come through it a stronger, wiser person.
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
Posted by seraphPosted by DiscoveringME
Is it normal for a leo male to break up with someone that they've been with and show no remorse?
Is it normal behavior for a leo male to talk bad about you after a breakup?
After all of this I still wonder if he is thinking even a little bit about me, silly I know.
I guess I am writing to just get some insight on the situation. I am really trying to focus on my life and move forward but I can't help but to feel anger when I think about how his "new girlfriend" called me and he totally denied me in front of her. That whole situation made me feel like I took three steps back from my healing process.
What you're really asking is whether sometimes people do this:
break up and show no remorse.
talk bad about you afterward.
think about you afterward
The answer is YES.
Why? Because. Because because because. This is part of the totality of life. There are great parts and there are unfortunate parts. Sometimes the unfortunate parts happen to us. But we carry on all the same.
You'll be fine. What happened to you - this betrayal - isn't particularly special. It's common.
Sure, discussing it here might make you feel better, but only temporarily. It can help you cope in the moment. Burt the real healer is acceptance. And that will only come with time.
What feels like a BIG problem now... will seem less so a few months from now. Life has a way of nudging you back into balance. Let that knowledge be your guide. All the big questions you have now because your feelings are still so raw... will slowly dissipate of their own accord.click to expand
Everything that you said is spot on and I genuinely appreciate it. I know the only thing that's going to help me heal is time and acceptance. It's just that somedays I wake up and I feel okay and then other days, I wake up and I feel horrible. The affirmation from my ex, the closure, it really won't change anything. It's just that right now I can't seem to wrap my head around his actions and how confused I feel, but I do know that I have to really focus on my own healing. It's hard but it's possible.
Once again, thank you so much for your words of encouragement...be blessed!
Posted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
You know what, I was totally stunned that she even contacted me, but I felt totally ambushed when I heard him in the background. I knew I shouldn't have answered but to be honest, I wanted answers. I just didn't expect him to be there in the background and on top of that lie! It's like I couldn't even address her b/c once he started up, I was trying to defend myself from all of his lies, and I now I feel like I just made myself look crazy by even entertaining him and this entire nonsense...silly, I know.
Posted by Jynja
Is it normal for LEOs to act with no remorse?
Girl, those LEOs eat crocs and slaughter goats on the night of the first solstice. So. of course, its normal.
In fact, I dont think they are even HUMAN at all.
*eye roll*
Sarcasm...how cute.
Posted by CluelessCancerPosted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
You know what, I was totally stunned that she even contacted me, but I felt totally ambushed when I heard him in the background. I knew I shouldn't have answered but to be honest, I wanted answers. I just didn't expect him to be there in the background and on top of that lie! It's like I couldn't even address her b/c once he started up, I was trying to defend myself from all of his lies, and I now I feel like I just made myself look crazy by even entertaining him and this entire nonsense...silly, I know.
Well she knows he lied to her too. Girl im sorry your going through this. God will bring you a better partner.click to expand
Thank you so much!
Posted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
You know what, I was totally stunned that she even contacted me, but I felt totally ambushed when I heard him in the background. I knew I shouldn't have answered but to be honest, I wanted answers. I just didn't expect him to be there in the background and on top of that lie! It's like I couldn't even address her b/c once he started up, I was trying to defend myself from all of his lies, and I now I feel like I just made myself look crazy by even entertaining him and this entire nonsense...silly, I know.click to expand
I understand that totally, and commend you for the way you dealt with it.
It would have totally insensed me, as like you, I would have felt kind of under attack. Considering you are the one who has been wronged. You handled that a lot better than myself
_??
Posted by seraphPosted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
And he somehow allowed this to happen and even got involved against her, on speakerphone.
I've never heard of this happening. I've never heard of someone doing this or allowing himself to even be made to do such a thing even to an ex.
DiscoveringME:
These two did you a HUGE favour.click to expand
Yes, I believe so too- they deserve each other. It's just that right now my feelings of betrayal and hurt are raw. However, I will get over this!
Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
You know what, I was totally stunned that she even contacted me, but I felt totally ambushed when I heard him in the background. I knew I shouldn't have answered but to be honest, I wanted answers. I just didn't expect him to be there in the background and on top of that lie! It's like I couldn't even address her b/c once he started up, I was trying to defend myself from all of his lies, and I now I feel like I just made myself look crazy by even entertaining him and this entire nonsense...silly, I know.
I understand that totally, and commend you for the way you dealt with it.
It would have totally insensed me, as like you, I would have felt kind of under attack. Considering you are the one who has been wronged. You handled that a lot better than myself
_??click to expand
Yes, I was minding my own business. After I found out that he cheated, I broke up with him. This girl called me almost a whole month after our breakup asking me questions, and he interjects acting as if I am lying about our relationship. She said that she went thru his phone and saw my texts to him on January 5th but that there was no name with the text, only a number. If she doesn't know what type of person she's dealing with now, she'll soon find out.
Thank you for your kind words!
Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
You know what, I was totally stunned that she even contacted me, but I felt totally ambushed when I heard him in the background. I knew I shouldn't have answered but to be honest, I wanted answers. I just didn't expect him to be there in the background and on top of that lie! It's like I couldn't even address her b/c once he started up, I was trying to defend myself from all of his lies, and I now I feel like I just made myself look crazy by even entertaining him and this entire nonsense...silly, I know.
I understand that totally, and commend you for the way you dealt with it.
It would have totally insensed me, as like you, I would have felt kind of under attack. Considering you are the one who has been wronged. You handled that a lot better than myself
_??click to expand
Yes, when I found out that he cheated, I broke up with him. After almost a whole month later, she contacts me asking me questions. She said that she saw a text message that I sent to him on January 5th and it didn't have a name associated with it - just a number. I guess she felt something was strange b/c why would she go prying through his phone? I just wish they didn't involve me in their chaos.
Posted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRamPosted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
You know what, I was totally stunned that she even contacted me, but I felt totally ambushed when I heard him in the background. I knew I shouldn't have answered but to be honest, I wanted answers. I just didn't expect him to be there in the background and on top of that lie! It's like I couldn't even address her b/c once he started up, I was trying to defend myself from all of his lies, and I now I feel like I just made myself look crazy by even entertaining him and this entire nonsense...silly, I know.
I understand that totally, and commend you for the way you dealt with it.
It would have totally insensed me, as like you, I would have felt kind of under attack. Considering you are the one who has been wronged. You handled that a lot better than myself
_??
Yes, I was minding my own business. After I found out that he cheated, I broke up with him. This girl called me almost a whole month after our breakup asking me questions, and he interjects acting as if I am lying about our relationship. She said that she went thru his phone and saw my texts to him on January 5th but that there was no name with the text, only a number. If she doesn't know what type of person she's dealing with now, she'll soon find out.
Thank you for your kind words!click to expand
You're welcome, you handled that with class you deserve a pat on the back!
As for her going through his phone, that in itself speaks but volumes about their level of trust.
She will certainly find out what he's really like soon enough.
You're out of it now. Better things and happier times await you
Posted by CluelessCancer
She probably saw the calls between you two.
If she's a water sign, she's investigating.
anyways good riddance and don't ever take care of another man's children unless you're MARRIED TO HIM.
Well, I don't know her birthday so I can't call it.
Btw, point taken about the children - thanks!
Posted by CluelessCancer
She probably saw the calls between you two.
If she's a water sign, she's investigating.
anyways good riddance and don't ever take care of another man's children unless you're MARRIED TO HIM.
Well, I don't know her birthday so I can't call it.
Btw, point taken about the children - thanks!
Posted by CluelessCancer
" he said, "I am weak" and "that we were having issues." "
LOL. If someone said that to me, i'd probably run them over, Suge Knight style.
Why — LMAO
Posted by AriesLady8
WOW! This is so cold blooded. Im sorry you are going through this. Wow!
I don't want to generalize Leos but my Mother is one and boy can she be cold blooded. With thought, she could see her fault in things but her pride won't allow her budge or apologize but she will secretly know she's wrong but will publicly justify herself. She has no problem getting rid of a man if she doesn't like something. She gives tough love me. But on the flip side, she is not cheap with people she loves.
He had a fallback that is why it seems like he doesn't care. Someone is there to distract his thoughts. And whatever they have is in the honeymoon stage. As time passes he will think about you a lot probably. Simply because of the way you guys ended and the role he played in it. That guilt will find its way to him. Plus he has only known this woman since November. he doesn't really know her or what he has potentially gotten himself into. He knows you, he doesn't KNOW her. Did he ask her to be his girlfriend before or after you found out about her? Based on his reaction to you finding out, it didn't seem like he was plotting to make his escape from you. They def were in the middle of something the night they called you and dragged you into it. He probably feels like he has lost you so he doesn't want to lose her.
Someone with a strong Leo placement on here told me that even if she misses a person and still wanted to be with them, her Leo pride wouldn't allow her to pursue it. What are his other chart placements?
To be honest with you, he's very prideful. Many of our issues with communication stemmed from his pride. I was always the one trying to communicate and he would just be stubborn. Eventually, he'd always come to me and say, "I am sorry, I know that I have a 'f you' attitude" or, "I let my pride get in the way and I am sorry." This has always been one of his biggest issues, pride, and not just with me but with his own family too.
I know I shouldn't dwell on this situation but I can't help it. I just wish that it never happened! You know, during our argument I even said, "I didn't call your gf, she called me, so why are you upset with me? If anything, you should be upset with her!" But he still kept lying! To think that he said, "he used her" and "now you'll never be with me" when I first confronted him about cheating, to him now bei
Posted by CluelessCancer
" he said, "I am weak" and "that we were having issues." "
LOL. If someone said that to me, i'd probably run them over, Suge Knight style.
LOL, you're no joke! Off with his head.
I understand that totally, and commend you for the way you dealt with it.
It would have totally insensed me, as like you, I would have felt kind of under attack. Considering you are the one who has been wronged. You handled that a lot better than myself
_??
Yes, I was minding my own business. After I found out that he cheated, I broke up with him. This girl called me almost a whole month after our breakup asking me questions, and he interjects acting as if I am lying about our relationship. She said that she went thru his phone and saw my texts to him on January 5th but that there was no name with the text, only a number. If she doesn't know what type of person she's dealing with now, she'll soon find out.
Thank you for your kind words!
You're welcome, you handled that with class you deserve a pat on the back!
As for her going through his phone, that in itself speaks but volumes about their level of trust.
She will certainly find out what he's really like soon enough.
You're out of it now. Better things and happier times await you
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing! How good can their relationship be if she has to call me to verify what he says? Oh well...
Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRamPosted by DiscoveringMEPosted by MadMarchRam
As for the side chick calling my phone, well I'll be totally honest and say that would have sparked off a whole new situation between me and her for the cheek of it. 😐
You know what, I was totally stunned that she even contacted me, but I felt totally ambushed when I heard him in the background. I knew I shouldn't have answered but to be honest, I wanted answers. I just didn't expect him to be there in the background and on top of that lie! It's like I couldn't even address her b/c once he started up, I was trying to defend myself from all of his lies, and I now I feel like I just made myself look crazy by even entertaining him and this entire nonsense...silly, I know.
I understand that totally, and commend you for the way you dealt with it.
It would have totally insensed me, as like you, I would have felt kind of under attack. Considering you are the one who has been wronged. You handled that a lot better than myself
_??
Yes, I was minding my own business. After I found out that he cheated, I broke up with him. This girl called me almost a whole month after our breakup asking me questions, and he interjects acting as if I am lying about our relationship. She said that she went thru his phone and saw my texts to him on January 5th but that there was no name with the text, only a number. If she doesn't know what type of person she's dealing with now, she'll soon find out.
Thank you for your kind words!
You're welcome, you handled that with class you deserve a pat on the back!
As for her going through his phone, that in itself speaks but volumes about their level of trust.
She will certainly find out what he's really like soon enough.
You're out of it now. Better things and happier times await youclick to expand
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing! How good can their relationship be if she has to call me to verify what he says? Oh well...
Posted by CluelessCancerPosted by AriesLady8
WOW! This is so cold blooded. Im sorry you are going through this. Wow!
I don't want to generalize Leos but my Mother is one and boy can she be cold blooded. With thought, she could see her fault in things but her pride won't allow her budge or apologize but she will secretly know she's wrong but will publicly justify herself. She has no problem getting rid of a man if she doesn't like something. She gives tough love me. But on the flip side, she is not cheap with people she loves.
He had a fallback that is why it seems like he doesn't care. Someone is there to distract his thoughts. And whatever they have is in the honeymoon stage. As time passes he will think about you a lot probably. Simply because of the way you guys ended and the role he played in it. That guilt will find its way to him. Plus he has only known this woman since November. he doesn't really know her or what he has potentially gotten himself into. He knows you, he doesn't KNOW her. Did he ask her to be his girlfriend before or after you found out about her? Based on his reaction to you finding out, it didn't seem like he was plotting to make his escape from you. They def were in the middle of something the night they called you and dragged you into it. He probably feels like he has lost you so he doesn't want to lose her.
Someone with a strong Leo placement on here told me that even if she misses a person and still wanted to be with them, her Leo pride wouldn't allow her to pursue it. What are his other chart placements?
Point is moot now. Everyone regrets things and wish they didn't do it. He didn't have the inner strength to fight for his relationship. Instead he cheated.
Him and the girl are just a rebound.
Anyways to the VIRGO you're analytical mind will eventually get that this isnt' for you.
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Thanks...I am not for drama and he knows this! I just hate that I was sucked into this chaos and it seems like I am the only one suffering. They're probably somewhere living happily ever after!
Posted by AriesLady8
She is insecure because she now knows that she was the side chick. So she doesn't know if she can trust trust him. She doesn't know if you guys are really over. She doesn't know if she is being used or not. 5 years vs. 5 months is intimidating. Does he have a lot of mutable energy? Why is he so quick to pledge his allegiance to her and he's a fixed sign?! He sounds like an absolute clown. Regardless of how you ended, a MAN would never allow no shit like that to go down.
His birthday is August 7th, 1979. I just know that he's a leo. I have no clue about his chart. When my ex and I were going back and forth, she was silent. I feel like I really allowed myself to be ambushed and played. This whole scenario is embarrassing. As for her being intimidated, I guess but she didn't make it seem that way on the phone. Thanks for you input, I appreciate it!
Posted by DiscoveringMEPosted by AriesLady8
WOW! This is so cold blooded. Im sorry you are going through this. Wow! I don't want to generalize Leos but my Mother is one and boy can she be cold blooded. With thought, she could see her fault in things but her pride won't allow her budge or apologize but she will secretly know she's wrong but will publicly justify herself. She has no problem getting rid of a man if she doesn't like something. She gives tough love me. But on the flip side, she is not cheap with people she loves. He had a fallback that is why it seems like he doesn't care. Someone is there to distract his thoughts. And whatever they have is in the honeymoon stage. As time passes he will think about you a lot probably. Simply because of the way you guys ended and the role he played in it. That guilt will find its way to him. Plus he has only known this woman since November. he doesn't really know her or what he has potentially gotten himself into. He knows you, he doesn't KNOW her. Did he ask her to be his girlfriend before or after you found out about her? Based on his reaction to you finding out, it didn't seem like he was plotting to make his escape from you. They def were in the middle of something the night they called you and dragged you into it. He probably feels like he has lost you so he doesn't want to lose her. Someone with a strong Leo placement on here told me that even if she misses a person and still wanted to be with them, her Leo pride wouldn't allow her to pursue it. What are his other chart placements?
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To be honest with you, he's very prideful. Many of our issues with communication stemmed from his pride. I was always the one trying to communicate and he would just be stubborn. Eventually, he'd always come to me and say, "I am sorry, I know that I have a 'f you' attitude" or, "I let my pride get in the way and I am sorry." This has always been one of his biggest issues, pride, and not just with me but with his own family too.
I know I shouldn't dwell on this situation but I can't help it. I just wish that it never happened! You know, during our argument I even said, "I didn't call your gf, she called me, so why are you upset with me? If anything, you should be upset with her!" But he still kept lying! To think that he said, "he used her"
and "now you'll never be with me" when I first confronted him about cheating, to him now being coupled up with her is sick. Btw, I don't know his chart but his birthday is 08/07/79.
He was born in Manhattan NY...I think 8pm.
Posted by AriesLady8
Where was he born? Do you know the time?
He was born in Manhattan NY...I think 8pm.
Posted by AriesLady8
That Mars in gemini might have a little something to do with this
Thank you! I appreciate the information... I am unfamiliar with the characteristics of someone w/ Mars in gemini but I will look it up.
Posted by dontgetmewrong
Cont...ratting her out to her boyfriend (his friend) that he saw her dancing and rubbing up on with some guy at some club. She calls me up the next morning and told me everything. I found all of this out after I had already given birth 3 months later. Anyway, I didn't have any family here and I had moved from the Midwest to be with him, my daughter had just been born and I had no where to go. He cried after I found out and told me he would've eventually told me. I was young and decided to try to work it out for my daughter. After years of being together and also as we had gotten older, found how truly selfish he could he, I am ending it. They can be sweet but honestly they are very selfish in the end. They are good at throwing their shit back at you. Over inflated egos. You may not see it now, but you dodged a bullet. Good luck to you.
but what if it was really only a physical thing? Didn't you have crazy ideas when you were pregnant?
Don't get me wrong. I was just trying to give an impulse. I was never married and cannot judge what is wrong or right to do.
How much I loved to tell we Sag girls are too good for this world (remind me already of two cheaters as dxp members). On the other hand this happens also to other girls. To the warmest Cancer hearts. To the most beautiful Libra faces. To the most responsible Cap women. etc.
It's sad what happened. I wish the pain could vanish as fast as possible.
"not saying that all leo men cheat, but a lot do"
actually it is unimportant if they are a lot or a few. Destiny is individual.
"other things that I found in him and myself that didn't work well together as we grew older and it was his way or a fight would exude. I couldn't handle the ego trip anymore. I found it annoying as I got older."
that's a good thing. after destruction there comes the construction.
but didn't your to-be-ex-man have Gemini in his chart too?
actually it is unimportant if they are a lot or a few. Destiny is individual.
"other things that I found in him and myself that didn't work well together as we grew older and it was his way or a fight would exude. I couldn't handle the ego trip anymore. I found it annoying as I got older."
that's a good thing. after destruction there comes the construction.
but didn't your to-be-ex-man have Gemini in his chart too?
well.. almost the same happened to me with my leo ex...we had our issues..and it seems he was cheating on me with my best friend and they are getting married....he even denied our relationship or whatever we had infront of his b***h..although that slut knows that we were in a relationship... and yes..I am shocked that leo would ever do that...i thought they were honest
Posted by dontgetmewrong
DiscoveringME..how are you?
Hi DontGetMeWrong! I am so sorry for the delayed response but I haven't been checking up on the message board b/c I didn't receive any notification about any followup messages. Again, sorry! I just so happened to check and see all of your messages. As for how I am doing, I am trying to stay busy and not dwell on my ex. However, as you know, it's really a day by day thing b/c somedays I feel okay and then other days I just feel so unmotivated. Of course, the cheating is an issue but it's the whole messiness with the new girl, and his blatant lies that really keep playing on repeat in my mind. I would have never thought that my ex would stoop so low. It just goes to show his level of deceit and disloyalty. To think, he always talked about loyalty and love, meanwhile he's just a liar and a cheat. My Mr. Leo was nothing but a con artist. WOMP!
Posted by Kodak375
You got out of a shitty situation smelling like roses, you seem like a great girl you find someone better, i wouldnt stress it.
Thank you Kodak, aren't you kind! I appreciate your advice and I will try not to stress it, I really will! Thanks again :-) !
Posted by seraph
Unlike the Houdinis discussed on the other boards here,
at least you'll always know what a Leo did
when he "disappeared."
True Seraph! Sometimes I do think that I should have paid more attention to the previous signs, maybe I could have saved myself from wasting so much time on our relationship - at least I know now. Thanks again!
Posted by DwellingOnMove
"not saying that all leo men cheat, but a lot do"
actually it is unimportant if they are a lot or a few. Destiny is individual.
"other things that I found in him and myself that didn't work well together as we grew older and it was his way or a fight would exude. I couldn't handle the ego trip anymore. I found it annoying as I got older."
that's a good thing. after destruction there comes the construction.
but didn't your to-be-ex-man have Gemini in his chart too?
I totally agree that after destruction comes the construction. After sacrificing so much time and energy into someone who didn't appreciate me and losing myself in the process, I now know that I have to really self evaluate. Also, I realize that I had needed to take a deeper look within and work on the inner parts of me that need attention. As well as, working on doing the things that I want to do with my life, and honoring myself.
Posted by mariahangel
well.. almost the same happened to me with my leo ex...we had our issues..and it seems he was cheating on me with my best friend and they are getting married....he even denied our relationship or whatever we had infront of his b***h..although that slut knows that we were in a relationship... and yes..I am shocked that leo would ever do that...i thought they were honest
Ha, the funny thing is that I thought leos were supposed to be "oh so loyal" too! NOT! This guy is only loyal to himself and that's it. He's a pathological liar and deceitful. If anything, I was the loyal one on all fronts, reality slapped me in the face once I found out about his trickery. I guess we're the lucky ones now that they're gone.
Posted by dontgetmewrong
And by all means, I'm not saying that all leo men cheat, but a lot do. I'm a sag/cap cusp and sag has a reputation of being cheaters and
I have never cheated on him. He was my first love, first everything and I was really hurt and depressed after it all but bc I was younger and wanted to keep my family together I gave him another chance, and we got through it, but in the end there were other things that I found in him and myself that didn't work well together as we grew older and it was his way or a fight would exude. I couldn't handle the ego trip anymore. I found it annoying as I got older.
But God only knows HOW many other people you
cheated on... what with Sags reputation (and your
careful wording!), it's pretty much a given.
I'm not saying all Sags cheat, of course... but a lot do.
So it stands to reason.
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by DiscoveringME
but didn't your to-be-ex-man have Gemini in his chart too?
Actually, yes! AriesLady8 did a birth chart breakdownfor him and it said that he has Gemini in Mars. Why, do you have further information in regard to the Gemini in his chart?
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Posted by DiscoveringME
Actually, yes! AriesLady8 did a birth chart breakdownfor him and it said that he has Gemini in Mars. Why, do you have further information in regard to the Gemini in his chart?
I don't, but Dwelling may.
I noticed she had asked, and I was curious as well.
I'm sure you've heard it before, but the entire
chart should be considered and a Gem Mars is different
than say a Cancer Mars or Virgo Mars (etc etc).
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by DiscoveringME
Actually, yes! AriesLady8 did a birth chart breakdownfor him and it said that he has Gemini in Mars. Why, do you have further information in regard to the Gemini in his chart?
I don't, but Dwelling may.
I noticed she had asked, and I was curious as well.
I'm sure you've heard it before, but the entire
chart should be considered and a Gem Mars is different
than say a Cancer Mars or Virgo Mars (etc etc).
Yes, I know, I actually looked it up and read some information after I received the breakdown. Thanks!
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Posted by MontgomeryPosted by DiscoveringME
Actually, yes! AriesLady8 did a birth chart breakdownfor him and it said that he has Gemini in Mars. Why, do you have further information in regard to the Gemini in his chart?
I don't, but Dwelling may.
I noticed she had asked, and I was curious as well.
I'm sure you've heard it before, but the entire
chart should be considered and a Gem Mars is different
than say a Cancer Mars or Virgo Mars (etc etc).
click to expand
Yes, I know, I actually looked it up and read some information after I received the breakdown. Thanks!
🙂
Posted by dontgetmewrong
Montgomery- how many other people I've cheated on? The answer is zero. He was my first boyfriend, first & only everything. If I did cheat on him, I would say it on here. Why would I need to lie to a bunch of virtual people. Lol. I'm not like Leo, even in the virtual world you still need to feel like you're above everyone else.
"Virtual people"?
lol
The hypocrisy.
Posted by dontgetmewrong
You would know soo much about hypocrisy, being a Leo and all.
Brilliant comeback.
Unfortunately (for you), though... hypocrisy is the domain of
Sagittarius, if they are not evolved.
Sagittarius The Wanderer of the Zodiac
"Sagittarius has the distinction of being the mutable fire sign....
Generally, this sign is friendly, affable and easy going, but
they also have a "righteous" side to them.
They require personal freedom to speak their minds, but their
words, all too often, enslave themselves and others with a religious
"right", a political "right", or a social "right."
The issue for Sagittarius is in finding truth. They paint with a broad
brush, and so they think that there must be a single truth that can
be applied to humanity.
Yes, applied to humanity, but not necessarily to them. Thus a
hypocritical and righteous attitude may be very apparent to others
while the Sagittarius is blind to it themselves."
Case in point.
This is all very basic stuff.
** Link.
Posted by dontgetmewrong
LOL! Your're funny, how you believe everything you read on the internet, (since we'really basing it on sags, maybe you should look up sag/cap cusp) I actually have experience by the many many many Leos I know that you are huge hypocrites due to your overwhelming sense of entitlement. Self "righteousness" is very apparent with you Leos. Don't deny it, everyone else knows it too. It's one of the traits that is not too appealing to anyone who knows one well. You prove it here. Go ahead and keep "googling" your info about sags, instead of actually experiencing them yourself. Your megalomania is really unattractive.
"... Sagittarius has a name for hypocrisy,
when Jupiter is afflicted."
https://books.google.com/books?id=Xe5n9Iz3zWUC&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Sagittarius+hypocrisy&source=bl&ots=jeF_PAbujv&sig=k6qeuW2dZ6pULDLWE0J6isI-rIk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VgIVVY3iGdDXoATc44LwDA&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Sagittarius% 20hypocrisy&f=false">Encyclopaedia of Psychological Astrology
Posted by dontgetmewrong
And it's name is Montgomery.
Clever, but denial will only keep you
in the same rut you're already in.
Sagittarius
Element: Fire
Symbol: The Archer
Principal: Direction
Negative Expression: Hypocrisy
** LINK.
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