Posted by lisabethur8I agree and disagree with this. It depends on the man. I've proposed friendship to him a couple of times, because I do care about him. Love him, but if this is not what he wants, I don't want to do this relationship either. Every single time, he sticks to me like glue when I propose friendship only. In a way, this is sad. I'm trying to figure out if things will improve. It certainly didn't start out this way. Things used to be SOOOOOOO easy. I mean like, extremely easy. I don't know what happened. The only thing I've done, honestly, is put my foot down and refused to be neglected and even in that, I haven't harassed him, I've actually pulled away and gone off to do my own thing. I'm not clingy at all. I think that there's something more at play than what I realize right now. The question I keep asking myself is if I want to stick around to find out what is REALLY going on or just leave this alone.
if it frustrates you alot and you're trying to "control" him constantly, then you need to re-evaluate your relationship and dynamics. After awhile, men will get annoyed, and leave you, OR they will find other outlets, to get away from you. Because they don't need a 2nd parent. Theyre already adults.
Posted by Montgomery++1Posted by MsTeeq1974You're absolutely correct... but that combination, inPosted by RatedXFunny, but he's pushing me to the edge and then when I'm melodramatic, that's when he wants to be all lovey dovey and sweet. I don't understand why he wants me to go to what I feel is the extreme in order for him to really do his part these days. I should have figured this shit out when I told him within the first two weeks that I slapped the dog shit out of my ex (the Aries) and all he said was, "Oh yeah?"
Scorpio sun with Leo moon + Scorpio Mercury? Ugh, good luck. You're in for a ton of drama..
The funny thing is he got his feelings hurt when I called him arrogant like three times in one conversation. I can tell that he's done some work to humble himself, but that arrogance still slips out every now and then. I just can't understand why I have to be such a bitch in order to get him to act accordingly. No one should have to do that.
my experience, is built for and thrives on drama.
Wait till he says, "I'm not be dramatic." without being
prompted-- you'll know he's used to being told that he is.
🙂
Admittedly, I'm a sucker for this combination.click to expand
Posted by RatedXI think this is the phase of relationship that we are in. The power control phase. It sucks. I want my adoring man back. This fucker is...whew. He's a handful and sweet and patient and then a handful again, then fun, then affectionate, then an asshole, etc. It's like dealing with 3-4 different men in ONE PERSON.
"I just can't understand why I have to be such a bitch in order to get him to act accordingly. No one should have to do that."
1) He's a Scorpio
2) He's has two powerful fixed signs in him
Scorpios don't respect weakness. They just want someone to stand their ground and not give in easily. But they also love to be in control.. They're a handful to deal with, especially when they have their Moon in Leo. It's never a dull moment with them. You'll experience really annoying power struggles with him.
Posted by livictoriHe goes back and forth Liv....one minute he doesn't like the attention. The next minute he's talking about the attention he got. I'm slightly amused by this part of his character. It's actually kind of entertaining when this happens. Now, don't get me wrong, I see the "lack of integrity" or groundedness when this happens...clearly, but at the end of the day...it's kind of entertaining to watch someone not want TOO much attention and thrive on a certain amount of attention it in equal parts. He'd make an interesting psychological study subject. lolPosted by RatedXAs a Leo moon that's not true. I don't even allow my birthday on Facebook because I hate the attention. I like for my partner to acknowledge what I contribute. Between the two of us, I was praise. I give a lot of attention also
Leo Suns and Leo moons are known to be dramatic and arrogant. They lack humbleness or modesty. They think they're royalty and expect people to kiss their toes as they walk.click to expand
Posted by busyeyes88He divulged more on this spontaneously last Friday. I totally see where his loyalty and generosity was fully taken advantage of in the past. It's hard to believe that the same guy that he tells me about in these two stories regarding past relationships is HIM. Like, I don't really see much of this in him. He seems so...stoic and realistic when it comes to how sleazy people are/can be. Maybe these are the lessons that he's learned and he feels like he needs to be guarded. I don't blame him in that respect, but I also feel like if he's going to be so guarded with me that he needs to back off of me a little. Give me more space and time to ease my way into this as well. He doesn't necessarily demand my time, but he's just there. Then when someone else wants me to do something he's like, "Ummm...you can go if you want to." How am I supposed to respond to that. I'd rather be around him. If he were going to go as well...SWEET. But he doesn't necessarily want to be around me and my folks. He likes it once he does it, but he doesn't offer to be around me and my folks. It just has to kind of ...happen or I have to say, "Hey, I was supposed to get together with such and such and so and so...do you want to go with me?" Last night someone hit me up to go do something at 11pm and while he was laying in my bed...we were getting undressed from attending a comedy show, and he was like, "You can go" The FUCK!?!?! So, I was like, "Do you WANT me to go?' He just kept saying, "You can go if you want to?" See...it's not that I was opposed to going to hang out with that person, but I think that would have been shitty and I wanted to hang out with him more than I wanted to hang out with them. I hope this makes sense. smhPosted by RatedXThis is totally not true. I have spent enough time around these people to know that they are thoroughly loyal and that their "subjects " are treated very well.. In fact too well!! So much so that their "subjects" usually turn around and "bite the hands that feeds them!!!
Leo Suns and Leo moons are known to be dramatic and arrogant. They lack humbleness or modesty. They think they're royalty and expect people to kiss their toes as they walk.click to expand
Posted by MsTeeq1974He's a handful and sweet and patient and then a handful again, then fun, then affectionate, then an asshole, etc. It's like dealing with 3-4 different men in ONE PERSON.LMBO because you just described my lioness to a T! This MUST be a Leo moon trait - not that I know anything about moon traits 😉. . When she's in that kind of mood, I just let her be and go with it. Oh, Lord, don't let us both be moody on the same day! That's an all out war day. It's like every once in awhile, they get a bug up their butt - and decide it's time to put their foot down about something- anything - it doesn't matter if that moment is the appropriate time to put their foot down. HaHaclick to expand
It seems to me atleast that Leo's are VERY moody in their own way (not necessarily emotionally moody, just moody) . She will be like I miss you and all cuddly one day and want to be left alone and go quiet the next. I've learned to see this as nothing more than - she's just in that 'I'm lonely...give me snuggles...now leave me alone.'. moods. LOL. I find it funny because she'll feel bad later for being moody towards me like that and is so apologetic about it later.
I think they struggle with expressing their emotions sometimes, so it comes out this way.
Posted by crabbycrab76Posted by MsTeeq1974HOLY SHIT!! Yes!!!!! That's exactly what happened last night AND this morning. This dude didn't want to reach over on the nightstand and hand me his hat and watch so that I could play "dress up" and take selfies. He was the one who started it by putting his eye glasses on me. So I started taking sexy selfies with the eye glasses on and was like, "Wait...I love playing dress up...give me your hat and big ass gold watch" He pitched a fit and was like, "Woman...will you LEAVE ME ALONE??" Of course I didn't leave him alone. It was like a 10 minute debate before he finally got up and handed them to me. Then I was like, "Thank you Love". LMBO!!! Then he asked me who I was taking these sexy selfies for. I was like, "Me! Shit..." Maybe he's upset that I didn't send him any of the pics. I showed them to him...he didn't ask for them...so whatever. lol Ok, ok, ok...in thinking about it, I should have sent him the pictures. *sighs* But I think I was feelingHe's a handful and sweet and patient and then a handful again, then fun, then affectionate, then an asshole, etc. It's like dealing with 3-4 different men in ONE PERSON.LMBO because you just described my lioness to a T! This MUST be a Leo moon trait - not that I know anything about moon traits 😉. . When she's in that kind of mood, I just let her be and go with it. Oh, Lord, don't let us both be moody on the same day! That's an all out war day. It's like every once in awhile, they get a bug up their butt - and decide it's time to put their foot down about something- anything - it doesn't matter if that moment is the appropriate time to put their foot down. HaHa
It seems to me atleast that Leo's are VERY moody in their own way (not necessarily emotionally moody, just moody) . She will be like I miss you and all cuddly one day and want to be left alone and go quiet the next. I've learned to see this as nothing more than - she's just in that 'I'm lonely...give me snuggles...now leave me alone.'. moods. LOL. I find it funny because she'll feel bad later for being moody towards me like that and is so apologetic about it later.
I think they struggle with expressing their emotions sometimes, so it comes out this way.click to expand
Posted by busyeyes88This is soooo true! I hate seeing people taking advantage of my gf's kindness. I don't say anything cause she eventually sees it and boy do they regret that they took it so far with her! When she cuts you off - you feel the pain! This is one of the reasons I never ask anything of her, especially money - I never want her to feel in I am with her for any reason than to be with her.
This is totally not true. I have spent enough time around these people to know that they are thoroughly loyal and that their "subjects " are treated very well.. In fact too well!! So much so that their "subjects" usually turn around and "bite the hands that feeds them!!!
Posted by MsTeeq1974Some people can hide that they care better than others. I definitely can act like I don't care, but privately, be caring like a motherfucker! LOL
Effing cut offs. Basically, I'm still sore about this morning's event and will do me today/tonight and make/keep myself happy. I'm disappointed that someone who I wouldn't think twice about supporting couldn't make a 4 mile drive for something that I desperately needed. He is not invited to this party today and maybe even not tomorrow. I don't think he gives two shits anyways. So, that's that. lol
Posted by MsTeeq1974well crap! after i posted and wrote that, i didnt see it myself that i kind of mommy my own husband at times. I mean, like take care of him and his needs but honestly, there are times when I overdo it, and he will get upset. lol But not in "actions"; in "actions" i take care of him, very well, and he loves that. But, if i say something, which is only once in awhile, i will overdo something in terms of saying in words, not actions, "don't forget to bring your jacket with you, or it's best to go to bed early for tomorrow for a head start and good energy for your work, study, project,, ect ect blah blah..." the kind of stuff a mother would say to her son. Ugggghhhh.Posted by lisabethur8I agree and disagree with this. It depends on the man. I've proposed friendship to him a couple of times, because I do care about him. Love him, but if this is not what he wants, I don't want to do this relationship either. Every single time, he sticks to me like glue when I propose friendship only. In a way, this is sad. I'm trying to figure out if things will improve. It certainly didn't start out this way. Things used to be SOOOOOOO easy. I mean like, extremely easy. I don't know what happened. The only thing I've done, honestly, is put my foot down and refused to be neglected and even in that, I haven't harassed him, I've actually pulled away and gone off to do my own thing. I'm not clingy at all. I think that there's something more at play than what I realize right now. The question I keep asking myself is if I want to stick around to find out what is REALLY going on or just leave this alone.
if it frustrates you alot and you're trying to "control" him constantly, then you need to re-evaluate your relationship and dynamics. After awhile, men will get annoyed, and leave you, OR they will find other outlets, to get away from you. Because they don't need a 2nd parent. Theyre already adults.click to expand
Posted by lisabethur8I'm going in the direction of the fact that there is more at play. I left him alone yesterday and he contacted me to let me know that the camping trip with his relatives is happening this weekend. I went ahead and got the tent, let him know, and left it at that. He contacted me with morning with a good morning text AFTER he knew that I'd already left for work. I see what he's doing here. He's making himself unavailable so that he's not a burden to me. I'm going to respect it and at the same time just let things continue on. I had the MOST therapeutic convo with a close cousin while walking through a store from 10pm until midnight. I did let him know that I went on a shopping spree. I think he was disappointed that I would rather turn to a vice than to turn to him for comfort. Yes, he has the Cap Venus and Virgo Mars at play as well.
so you see what i mean? men HATE to be mothered if they feel they are being mommied. But in "actions" which i am Always taking care of him too, he loves that and eats it all up!! but words?? Telling him what to do is going to peeve him off. lol
However your man has libra rsing and a stellium in libra. My husband doesn't have that. so he's going to be ALOT different than yours of course, and ALOT different just in culture and mannerisms. So maybe what your man has with the going back and forth stuff is his libra stellium and libra dominant energy?? That could be it. My husband doesn't have that problem. There isn't anything back and forth or wishy washy about him. So maybe we could focus on both his Leo and Libra energy. However doesn't your man also have that capricorn and virgo energy?
I dont know about the proposing friendship thingy though, but yeah it does sound like something more at play.
lol@ feeling the stitches coming out of the cartoon's head. Well, i get that way too. I cry at dumb Disney films all the time, i hate it!! but it never fails. the tears fall all the time. Even in movie theatres, i'm so glad it' DARK because the sad films i cry and weep hard, with tears all over my face. And it's horrifying when the lights go on!!
Posted by busyeyes88Um, no. Not easy. Taurus Mars and Taurus Rising. Venus in Cap as well. I'm invested, obviously and I carefully considered whether or not to get into a relationship with him in the first place. I will not amputate without evaluating self first. I have to deal with my shit before I can say that this is all him. My convo with my cousin almost had me in tears. She started in with, "Your problem is that you're looking for a perfect man. I've walked through these relationships with you recently and Cousin, you're never going to find a perfect man" Well, after considering what she said, I came to the conclusion that what has happened is that somehow I subconsciously idolized my grandmother and grandfather's relationship (Scorp woman/Pisces man) and their relationship was bonded from beginning until the very end. It was perfectly functional though they had some horrible events involved. My grandfather who was my favorite guy on this earth and bday two days after mine, died two years ago. I'll NEVER get over it. He sent me a very personal message before deciding to secretly stop taking his cancer meds....then he died a few months later. It still hurts, I still need THAT man, and at the same time, I have this picture perfect ideal in my head that someday I'll have a relationship with a man like my grandparents had.
OP. This not really a question of his moon. Your relationship is not working!! Just delete him his details. Amputate. If this is not what you genuinely want then it should be easy for you the cut the ambilical cord!
Posted by busyeyes88He's definitely had his hand bitten several times. I know this. In this, I tread lightly and totally understand how he would be hesitant to become the doormat that he was in previous relationships. I know that he has concerns about getting into something and committing wholly without knowing what it is that he's gotten himself into first. He's left entire home and life behind to escape bad/dysfunctional relationships. The problem that he hasn't conquered is the cutting away completely of a person so that they KNOW that there's no hope for the future. He's been a friendly ex in most situations and that's not good either. I do know that he's opposed to embracing his "meanness". I told him that I embrace mine and have no problem being mean to someone when the situation calls for it and I don't apologize afterwards. He said, "Being mean isn't good. A person should NEVER be comfortable being mean." I just looked at him. He still has a lot to learn. Don't we all?Posted by crabbycrab76I have a Leo rising and leo moon and what you said here is totally my problem!!! Both friends and ex partners... Lessons learnt!!!Posted by busyeyes88This is soooo true! I hate seeing people taking advantage of my gf's kindness. I don't say anything cause she eventually sees it and boy do they regret that they took it so far with her! When she cuts you off - you feel the pain! This is one of the reasons I never ask anything of her, especially money - I never want her to feel in I am with her for any reason than to be with her.
This is totally not true. I have spent enough time around these people to know that they are thoroughly loyal and that their "subjects " are treated very well.. In fact too well!! So much so that their "subjects" usually turn around and "bite the hands that feeds them!!!click to expand
Posted by busyeyes88This thread is about gaining a better understanding of Leo moon. It's not about breaking up with my guy. I just talked with him a few minutes ago and it was totally not about me. He's decided to sell his beloved truck and placed the ad online today. That's why he was so easily irritated. He sounded SO much better. Giggles and all.
Well what do you intend to do? What is this thread about?
Posted by lisabethur8Very cute!!
lol tonight this really happened true story...
we saw a big billboard with a lion sleeping, or laying down lazily....for an advertisement.
and my husband and I drive by and he says, "Oooh Yup, that's ME, just like the lion, lazily loving my rest and sleep!" 😆
i just found that so cute, and thought of the astrology 😄
Posted by busyeyes88Thanks to all for the feedback. It was definitely financials driving him bonkers. We went out last night and he got VERY drunk. Most of what he talked about was selling the truck, making money, and he told me in a teasing manner that he cannot take me calling him broke one more time. I said it a couple of times (a while back) COMPLETELY in teasing him and we laughed about it then. I even followed up after teasing him to let him know that his finances are NOT my concern and that whatever financial status he has is fine with me...that I have his back and totally get what's going on in his life right now. Apparently, even though it doesn't seem like he holds it or held it against me, it did affect him on some level. I hugged and apologized to him last night for making him feel some kind of way. He said that it wasn't anything I did, he was just using that as a reference point, motivator to make some additional changes in his life...but in a good way. He now wants to make our entrepreneurship efforts a contest. Hell YEAH!!! It's on.
Cool. Re the truck. But my Leo moon is so not like that!! Lol lol lol
Posted by MsTeeq1974wow sounds awesome, MsTeeq. Have a wonderful time!
We're going camping this weekend and on a road trip in a couple of weeks to attend a wedding of a friend of mine, visit wineries, etc. He's so excited to sell this truck so that he can do more for me than he's done. That's another thing he's constantly talking about. Of course I want him to put the money towards business efforts, but he's also talking about buying me jewelry and going on a very nice romantic get-away.
I really appreciate all of the feedback and definitely took good notes on Leo moon. You guys have given me enough insight to know potential likes, dislikes, hot buttons, and turn-ons. Again, thanks guys, but I believe this thread is a wrap.
Posted by crabbycrab76Awwww...thanks Dear. That's one part of my values and personality that I actually would never give up...being supportive and having the back of the people who are in my life. Besides, there's not a day that goes by that I don't feel love in my life from SOMEONE. I just want to reflect and give that back as freely as it's given to me.
He's lucky to have a woman who has his back! Hope yall have fun, fun, fun!
Posted by NoreallynowTotally agree. I've learned over the past month of ups and downs to "feel" him instead of relying on him to verbalize what's going on. Most of it has been parenting guilt. Also, I don't give him enough attention and realize this. Support, yes, but attention (texting and phone calls)...not nearly enough. I barely initiate contact with him unless there's an issue.
Mercury scopio aren't "vocal?!
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