Leo Woman: Friendzone or more?

We've hung out several times now (every 1-2 days) for the past 2 weeks and yesterday got back from a 2 day intercity trip we did together. I'm confused because she's not a typical Leo. Can be very distant, quiet and hard to read. She's told me she gets that all the time and its something she's working on improving (she's like that from childhood traumas). She's expressed that I have qualities she looks for in someone and qualities she's attracted and drawn too. She makes plans with me, we hang out often and she compliments me and we had sex for the first time during this trip. Once I was moody because she was being pretty cold and distant and she asked me later that day what was wrong and I explained that she was cold and it threw me off so I reacted cold back and she said she preferred when I was all over her and physically affectionate but she would try more. Long story short, she's not physically touchy. Initiate it all and sometimes it makes me feel rejected because she rarely initiates. She can be cold and distant, hard to read, seems uninterested, isn't super straight forward like a typical Leo? Is she just hanging out with me because she needs a friend or does she actually like me. She has said she likes me but I'm confused because when you like someone, aren't you supposed to display it? Esp coming from a Leo? Am I wasting time developing feelings for this girl? Not sure how to move from here.. sometimes in person I even feel like I bother her because she can seem soooo uninterested. I'm super confused.

Sun - Leo

Moon - Libra

Mercury - Cancer

Venus/Mars - Leo

Your chart?

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Your chart?

Sun - Gemini

Moon - Libra

Mercury - Gemini

Venus/Mars - Cancer

We were away for 2 days like I said and today we're back home. I just text her "I find myself wanting to sleep next to you" and she replied with "Me too. I enjoyed sleeping next to you". But again, why is she so damn cold 90% of the time? She does touch me here or there or if I'm giving her affection she will reciprocate it but geez it feels like I'm with a Taurus or Capricorn. Super slow and its really confusing me..

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We were away for 2 days like I said and today we're back home. I just text her "I find myself wanting to sleep next to you" and she replied with "Me too. I enjoyed sleeping next to you". But again, why is she so damn cold 90% of the time? She does touch me here or there or if I'm giving her affection she will reciprocate it but geez it feels like I'm with a Taurus or Capricorn. Super slow and its really confusing me..

Air Moon - not always the most emotionally responsive

Correct. We have the same moon (libra) but I find myself to be totally different. Much more responsive and action orientated when I like someone. Maybe its my cancer placements. Im trying to understand if she likes me in the same way or its just a friendship to her?

Thanks Ice Storm for the hunch haha. Well we've had these discussions and she's hyper independent and doesn't like someone clingy. I guess I'd need to figure out the difference between being clingy and worshiping (although I am not going to worship her if its not being reciprocated). If its mutual I have no issues worshiping someone. I do think she wants to be loved for sure. She definitely has some childhood abandonment issues.

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Correct. We have the same moon (libra) but I find myself to be totally different. Much more responsive and action orientated when I like someone. Maybe its my cancer placements. Im trying to understand if she likes me in the same way or its just a friendship to her?

But you’ve Venus and Mars in water and she doesn’t

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Thing that is confusing is she does give me. She gives me a lot of her time, she pays for things (we take turns on everything), she initiates plans, she knows what I like and dislike when it comes to food and she finds us restaurants that she thinks I'll like and sends me the menus, she makes sure I'm enjoying myself or satisfied. However, she can be super dry and distant in person. Over text shes way funnier and flirtier. When we were out the other night and got drunk, she was super open and speaking about feelings etc and being jokey etc. I just dont know if I'm wasting my time or not

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
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I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.


I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol


As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.

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I should probably add that we're both gay women. I have the venus in cancer and she has the leo venus.

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.

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I can confirm this. An aries I dated was super cold. Took them a long time to warm up and even then, its not naturally in them I dont think to not be cold. They say Geminis are supposed to be cold but we're the opposite esp when we like and care for someone.

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.

Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo

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Aries is sexually hot but not sure emotionally

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Thing that is confusing is she does give me. She gives me a lot of her time, she pays for things (we take turns on everything), she initiates plans, she knows what I like and dislike when it comes to food and she finds us restaurants that she thinks I'll like and sends me the menus, she makes sure I'm enjoying myself or satisfied. However, she can be super dry and distant in person. Over text shes way funnier and flirtier. When we were out the other night and got drunk, she was super open and speaking about feelings etc and being jokey etc. I just dont know if I'm wasting my time or not
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It doesn’t sound like you are, it sounds like she does like you. You just have to accept that not everyone is going to fit the mould of your expectations.. as far as her not initiating sex, maybe that is something that will come with time. You did say that you guys just had sex for the first time so it’s still pretty new. But the fact that she is taking time to send you menus of restaurants and pays attention to the details of the kind of food you like etc, I think it sounds like she does like you.


What kind of childhood trauma did she have? If it was sexual abuse then it’s understandable if she’s not super aggressive. Also, what is her mars sign? Mars sign is how a woman asserts herself sexually. If she has an earth mars or cancer/Pisces mars then that might be why she’s not as sexually assertive too

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Yes and when she sends me the menus shes told me she wants everything to be perfect for me because I'm so amazing. I dont mean that she isnt being sexually assertive I mean in general I'm always the one being assertive and initiating any physical contact. The time I kissed her goodbye on the cheek and not the lips, she questioned what was wrong if I was upset about something lol.

Her trauma started at 5. Shes had lots of things happen. Dont think it sexual abuse is part of it, we havent gotten that deep but basically her parents separated and she was left with her mum who re married and kind of abandoned her. She lost total contact with her dad because of the step mum not allowing them to speak and she has half siblings from both her parents' new marriages and she was just pushed to the side. She left home at 17 and has been independent and alone since. She agreed that she believes a lot of her aloofness and hyperindependence is due to having to figure herself out and be alone and independent from such a young age.

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.

I can confirm this. An aries I dated was super cold. Took them a long time to warm up and even then, its not naturally in them I dont think to not be cold. They say Geminis are supposed to be cold but we're the opposite esp when we like and care for someone.

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Your Venus and Mars in Cancer would offset any coldness of your sun sign. Cancer is nurturing and caring

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Thing that is confusing is she does give me. She gives me a lot of her time, she pays for things (we take turns on everything), she initiates plans, she knows what I like and dislike when it comes to food and she finds us restaurants that she thinks I'll like and sends me the menus, she makes sure I'm enjoying myself or satisfied. However, she can be super dry and distant in person. Over text shes way funnier and flirtier. When we were out the other night and got drunk, she was super open and speaking about feelings etc and being jokey etc. I just dont know if I'm wasting my time or not
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It doesn’t sound like you are, it sounds like she does like you. You just have to accept that not everyone is going to fit the mould of your expectations.. as far as her not initiating sex, maybe that is something that will come with time. You did say that you guys just had sex for the first time so it’s still pretty new. But the fact that she is taking time to send you menus of restaurants and pays attention to the details of the kind of food you like etc, I think it sounds like she does like you.

What kind of childhood trauma did she have? If it was sexual abuse then it’s understandable if she’s not super aggressive. Also, what is her mars sign? Mars sign is how a woman asserts herself sexually. If she has an earth mars or cancer/Pisces mars then that might be why she’s not as sexually assertive too

Yes and when she sends me the menus shes told me she wants everything to be perfect for me because I'm so amazing. I dont mean that she isnt being sexually assertive I mean in general I'm always the one being assertive and initiating any physical contact. The time I kissed her goodbye on the cheek and not the lips, she questioned what was wrong if I was upset about something lol.


Her trauma started at 5. Shes had lots of things happen. Dont think it sexual abuse is part of it, we havent gotten that deep but basically her parents separated and she was left with her mum who re married and kind of abandoned her. She lost total contact with her dad because of the step mum not allowing them to speak and she has half siblings from both her parents' new marriages and she was just pushed to the side. She left home at 17 and has been independent and alone since. She agreed that she believes a lot of her aloofness and hyperindependence is due to having to figure herself out and be alone and independent from such a young age.
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That is sad ❤️ a lot of childhood trauma results in attachment issues where we are afraid of letting people get too close because we are afraid they will abandon us too. So it might have less to do with astrology, I would look into attachment style s. That helped me understand myself and other people as much as astrology has. Check out this audiobook written by psychologists.. it’s long, I’ve listened to parts of it while cleaning or folding laundry. If you can get the hard copy from the library, even better.

Thanks for this. I'll listen to it later 😊

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Thing that is confusing is she does give me. She gives me a lot of her time, she pays for things (we take turns on everything), she initiates plans, she knows what I like and dislike when it comes to food and she finds us restaurants that she thinks I'll like and sends me the menus, she makes sure I'm enjoying myself or satisfied. However, she can be super dry and distant in person. Over text shes way funnier and flirtier. When we were out the other night and got drunk, she was super open and speaking about feelings etc and being jokey etc. I just dont know if I'm wasting my time or not
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It doesn’t sound like you are, it sounds like she does like you. You just have to accept that not everyone is going to fit the mould of your expectations.. as far as her not initiating sex, maybe that is something that will come with time. You did say that you guys just had sex for the first time so it’s still pretty new. But the fact that she is taking time to send you menus of restaurants and pays attention to the details of the kind of food you like etc, I think it sounds like she does like you.

What kind of childhood trauma did she have? If it was sexual abuse then it’s understandable if she’s not super aggressive. Also, what is her mars sign? Mars sign is how a woman asserts herself sexually. If she has an earth mars or cancer/Pisces mars then that might be why she’s not as sexually assertive too

Yes and when she sends me the menus shes told me she wants everything to be perfect for me because I'm so amazing. I dont mean that she isnt being sexually assertive I mean in general I'm always the one being assertive and initiating any physical contact. The time I kissed her goodbye on the cheek and not the lips, she questioned what was wrong if I was upset about something lol.


Her trauma started at 5. Shes had lots of things happen. Dont think it sexual abuse is part of it, we havent gotten that deep but basically her parents separated and she was left with her mum who re married and kind of abandoned her. She lost total contact with her dad because of the step mum not allowing them to speak and she has half siblings from both her parents' new marriages and she was just pushed to the side. She left home at 17 and has been independent and alone since. She agreed that she believes a lot of her aloofness and hyperindependence is due to having to figure herself out and be alone and independent from such a young age.
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That is sad ❤️ a lot of childhood trauma results in attachment issues where we are afraid of letting people get too close because we are afraid they will abandon us too. So it might have less to do with astrology, I would look into attachment style s. That helped me understand myself and other people as much as astrology has. Check out this audiobook written by psychologists.. it’s long, I’ve listened to parts of it while cleaning or folding laundry. If you can get the hard copy from the library, even better.

Ok I'm 3mins into this video and its amazing. I'm already hooked! Where can I listen to the entire thing?

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Thing that is confusing is she does give me. She gives me a lot of her time, she pays for things (we take turns on everything), she initiates plans, she knows what I like and dislike when it comes to food and she finds us restaurants that she thinks I'll like and sends me the menus, she makes sure I'm enjoying myself or satisfied. However, she can be super dry and distant in person. Over text shes way funnier and flirtier. When we were out the other night and got drunk, she was super open and speaking about feelings etc and being jokey etc. I just dont know if I'm wasting my time or not
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It doesn’t sound like you are, it sounds like she does like you. You just have to accept that not everyone is going to fit the mould of your expectations.. as far as her not initiating sex, maybe that is something that will come with time. You did say that you guys just had sex for the first time so it’s still pretty new. But the fact that she is taking time to send you menus of restaurants and pays attention to the details of the kind of food you like etc, I think it sounds like she does like you.

What kind of childhood trauma did she have? If it was sexual abuse then it’s understandable if she’s not super aggressive. Also, what is her mars sign? Mars sign is how a woman asserts herself sexually. If she has an earth mars or cancer/Pisces mars then that might be why she’s not as sexually assertive too

Yes and when she sends me the menus shes told me she wants everything to be perfect for me because I'm so amazing. I dont mean that she isnt being sexually assertive I mean in general I'm always the one being assertive and initiating any physical contact. The time I kissed her goodbye on the cheek and not the lips, she questioned what was wrong if I was upset about something lol.

Her trauma started at 5. Shes had lots of things happen. Dont think it sexual abuse is part of it, we havent gotten that deep but basically her parents separated and she was left with her mum who re married and kind of abandoned her. She lost total contact with her dad because of the step mum not allowing them to speak and she has half siblings from both her parents' new marriages and she was just pushed to the side. She left home at 17 and has been independent and alone since. She agreed that she believes a lot of her aloofness and hyperindependence is due to having to figure herself out and be alone and independent from such a young age.
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That is sad ❤️ a lot of childhood trauma results in attachment issues where we are afraid of letting people get too close because we are afraid they will abandon us too. So it might have less to do with astrology, I would look into attachment style s. That helped me understand myself and other people as much as astrology has. Check out this audiobook written by psychologists.. it’s long, I’ve listened to parts of it while cleaning or folding laundry. If you can get the hard copy from the library, even better.

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Ok I'm 3mins into this video and its amazing. I'm already hooked! Where can I listen to the entire thing?
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I think that is the entire audiobook. It’s six hours long if you listen all the way through.. or just do a YouTube search for “attached audiobook” they have a few different uploads on YouTube

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Thank you so much. Great suggestion!

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
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I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.

I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol

As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.
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Hm my bf isn't like that, he does the chase but also expects to be worshiped and has really high opinion of himself, that they're the prize or a god's gift to you lol he does love deeply and honestly though. They just have that kind of "me first attitude" in everything. And they simply can't see that they could ever be in wrong, they believe they are doing 100% while not getting the same in return

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
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I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.

I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol

As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.
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Hm my bf isn't like that, he does the chase but also expects to be worshiped and has really high opinion of himself, that they're the prize or a god's gift to you lol he does love deeply and honestly though. They just have that kind of "me first attitude" in everything. And they simply can't see that they could ever be in wrong, they believe they are doing 100% while not getting the same in return

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Leo bits 😂 but it helps when you have Aries bits to fight them 😂

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Yes! Battle of the 🔥signs 🫣

I think Virgo with Leo placements must be difficult-perfectionist+big ego=never wrong

Horrible 😩😆

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
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I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.

I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol

As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.
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Hm my bf isn't like that, he does the chase but also expects to be worshiped and has really high opinion of himself, that they're the prize or a god's gift to you lol he does love deeply and honestly though. They just have that kind of "me first attitude" in everything. And they simply can't see that they could ever be in wrong, they believe they are doing 100% while not getting the same in return

😬🥴

Leo bits 😂 but it helps when you have Aries bits to fight them 😂

Yes! Battle of the 🔥signs 🫣

I think Virgo with Leo placements must be difficult-perfectionist+big ego=never wrong

Horrible 😩😆

You would think that right? But I test his boundaries so much at some times...and he still tolerates it😅 when needed, I put him down too but I'm really not a person who does that to others in general. He sometimes exaggerates but is also very receptive to criticism. Once I pointed out to him things he does that seem self entitled and as opposing his opinions on other she really stopped doing it. He just isn't aware of it but is also not childish about it when called on it. Once I had that kind of talk with him and he really struggled to see how he was in the wrong - because his suggestions were perfectly fine and for improvement to people included in them. But, he finally understood that those people didn't ask for them and despite the fact it was better for them - they can decide whatever they want.

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Unaware people 😩

He sounds like hard work

I know you’ve talked about leaving him and I hope when you do, you have more deserved fun 💃 🎉 🎊

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
click to expand

I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.

I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol

As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.
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Hm my bf isn't like that, he does the chase but also expects to be worshiped and has really high opinion of himself, that they're the prize or a god's gift to you lol he does love deeply and honestly though. They just have that kind of "me first attitude" in everything. And they simply can't see that they could ever be in wrong, they believe they are doing 100% while not getting the same in return

😬🥴

Leo bits 😂 but it helps when you have Aries bits to fight them 😂

Yes! Battle of the 🔥signs 🫣



I think Virgo with Leo placements must be difficult-perfectionist+big ego=never wrong



Horrible 😩😆

You would think that right? But I test his boundaries so much at some times...and he still tolerates it😅 when needed, I put him down too but I'm really not a person who does that to others in general. He sometimes exaggerates but is also very receptive to criticism. Once I pointed out to him things he does that seem self entitled and as opposing his opinions on other she really stopped doing it. He just isn't aware of it but is also not childish about it when called on it. Once I had that kind of talk with him and he really struggled to see how he was in the wrong - because his suggestions were perfectly fine and for improvement to people included in them. But, he finally understood that those people didn't ask for them and despite the fact it was better for them - they can decide whatever they want.

Unaware people 😩

He sounds like hard work

I know you’ve talked about leaving him and I hope when you do, you have more deserved fun 💃 🎉 🎊

He can be. But he also has many positive sides that I realize daily observing other people are hard to find. That's one of the reasons I keep sticking around. I like that he can accept mistakes and make up for them and honestly he does it more than I do. Sometimes I just think I should just not be in a relationship cause I have too many things that bother me in it and maybe I'm too intolerant...or maybe I strive for perfection too much. We're all humans and humans have flaws...

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Or you’ve just outgrown his control freak ways….why are you putting the blame on yourself when it’s evident he puts you down …

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
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I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.

I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol

As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.
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Hm my bf isn't like that, he does the chase but also expects to be worshiped and has really high opinion of himself, that they're the prize or a god's gift to you lol he does love deeply and honestly though. They just have that kind of "me first attitude" in everything. And they simply can't see that they could ever be in wrong, they believe they are doing 100% while not getting the same in return

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Leo bits 😂 but it helps when you have Aries bits to fight them 😂

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I think Virgo with Leo placements must be difficult-perfectionist+big ego=never wrong





Horrible 😩😆

You would think that right? But I test his boundaries so much at some times...and he still tolerates it😅 when needed, I put him down too but I'm really not a person who does that to others in general. He sometimes exaggerates but is also very receptive to criticism. Once I pointed out to him things he does that seem self entitled and as opposing his opinions on other she really stopped doing it. He just isn't aware of it but is also not childish about it when called on it. Once I had that kind of talk with him and he really struggled to see how he was in the wrong - because his suggestions were perfectly fine and for improvement to people included in them. But, he finally understood that those people didn't ask for them and despite the fact it was better for them - they can decide whatever they want.

Unaware people 😩



He sounds like hard work



I know you’ve talked about leaving him and I hope when you do, you have more deserved fun 💃 🎉 🎊

He can be. But he also has many positive sides that I realize daily observing other people are hard to find. That's one of the reasons I keep sticking around. I like that he can accept mistakes and make up for them and honestly he does it more than I do. Sometimes I just think I should just not be in a relationship cause I have too many things that bother me in it and maybe I'm too intolerant...or maybe I strive for perfection too much. We're all humans and humans have flaws...

Or you’ve just outgrown his control freak ways….why are you putting the blame on yourself when it’s evident he puts you down …

He wasn't actually controlling at all until I changed my attitude and he became suspicious and unsure. Truth is, I was gladly accepting all suggestions from him and then stopped, so that made him question why I changed. I can't say it's either's fault, maybe I've just outgrown relationship 🤷🏼‍♀️ In fact I read that somewhere in our synastry, that it will happen. Some Uranus aspect to something, don't remember anymore...

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What transits do you have to your 7th?

Sometimes when the controller loses control and the other person starts to assert themselves, things break down…..

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
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I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.

I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol

As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.
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Hm my bf isn't like that, he does the chase but also expects to be worshiped and has really high opinion of himself, that they're the prize or a god's gift to you lol he does love deeply and honestly though. They just have that kind of "me first attitude" in everything. And they simply can't see that they could ever be in wrong, they believe they are doing 100% while not getting the same in return

😬🥴

Leo bits 😂 but it helps when you have Aries bits to fight them 😂

Yes! Battle of the 🔥signs 🫣







I think Virgo with Leo placements must be difficult-perfectionist+big ego=never wrong







Horrible 😩😆

You would think that right? But I test his boundaries so much at some times...and he still tolerates it😅 when needed, I put him down too but I'm really not a person who does that to others in general. He sometimes exaggerates but is also very receptive to criticism. Once I pointed out to him things he does that seem self entitled and as opposing his opinions on other she really stopped doing it. He just isn't aware of it but is also not childish about it when called on it. Once I had that kind of talk with him and he really struggled to see how he was in the wrong - because his suggestions were perfectly fine and for improvement to people included in them. But, he finally understood that those people didn't ask for them and despite the fact it was better for them - they can decide whatever they want.

Unaware people 😩





He sounds like hard work





I know you’ve talked about leaving him and I hope when you do, you have more deserved fun 💃 🎉 🎊

He can be. But he also has many positive sides that I realize daily observing other people are hard to find. That's one of the reasons I keep sticking around. I like that he can accept mistakes and make up for them and honestly he does it more than I do. Sometimes I just think I should just not be in a relationship cause I have too many things that bother me in it and maybe I'm too intolerant...or maybe I strive for perfection too much. We're all humans and humans have flaws...

Or you’ve just outgrown his control freak ways….why are you putting the blame on yourself when it’s evident he puts you down …

He wasn't actually controlling at all until I changed my attitude and he became suspicious and unsure. Truth is, I was gladly accepting all suggestions from him and then stopped, so that made him question why I changed. I can't say it's either's fault, maybe I've just outgrown relationship 🤷🏼‍♀️ In fact I read that somewhere in our synastry, that it will happen. Some Uranus aspect to something, don't remember anymore...

What transits do you have to your 7th?

Sometimes when the controller loses control and the other person starts to assert themselves, things break down…..

Right now? Moon, Merc and Mars transiting 7th. Pluto square natal Mars in 7th. But I frankly think all my complications came with nodal return and Saturn's transit through 12th house. I'm loosing ground in every area in my life, so I don't think this is as much about relationships. I've been a wreck lately and emotional mess, barely holding myself together given the circumstances I found myself in. I've experienced a trauma with my mom's sickness and that left a massive scar on me. That whole situation had massive impact on me that will take quite some time to recover from.

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It’s a huge thing losing your mother…especially when like with yours she was very sick. It can leave you very vulnerable and lost 😞

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Cancer and Leo...not a good mix and match kind of situation. And yeah, what IceStorm says. She expects to be worshiped while she plays cold and distant. Leo is like that, they're not warm and cuddly as people would expect from fire sign. They are takers, not givers. If you want a giver then look for other fire signs. Or a Virgo - the servant of the zodiac.

Interesting….I met an Astro guy once who said “fire signs are cold”. He’s a Gemini.
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Aries is very hot. We can be both hot and cold😂 Leo is in general selfish and cold imo
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I think the dynamic might be more favorable in his situation where the woman has the Leo Venus because I think it’s expressed femininely.. and men don’t typically mind being the chasers and trying to conquer a woman.

I’ve known two men with Leo Venus though (cancer sun and also a Virgo sun) and they both needed so much validation and expected women to chase them, it’s like they considered themselves “the prize”. I liked the cancer a lot but it was draining even for my Virgo Venus.. I aint chasing nobody, let somebody else do it. lol

As far as the cancer/libra square.. they both have libra and cancer placements in their charts so I think that’s the reason they were intended to meet. Perhaps to work out those personal squares.
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Hm my bf isn't like that, he does the chase but also expects to be worshiped and has really high opinion of himself, that they're the prize or a god's gift to you lol he does love deeply and honestly though. They just have that kind of "me first attitude" in everything. And they simply can't see that they could ever be in wrong, they believe they are doing 100% while not getting the same in return

😬🥴

Leo bits 😂 but it helps when you have Aries bits to fight them 😂

Yes! Battle of the 🔥signs 🫣









I think Virgo with Leo placements must be difficult-perfectionist+big ego=never wrong









Horrible 😩😆

You would think that right? But I test his boundaries so much at some times...and he still tolerates it😅 when needed, I put him down too but I'm really not a person who does that to others in general. He sometimes exaggerates but is also very receptive to criticism. Once I pointed out to him things he does that seem self entitled and as opposing his opinions on other she really stopped doing it. He just isn't aware of it but is also not childish about it when called on it. Once I had that kind of talk with him and he really struggled to see how he was in the wrong - because his suggestions were perfectly fine and for improvement to people included in them. But, he finally understood that those people didn't ask for them and despite the fact it was better for them - they can decide whatever they want.

Unaware people 😩







He sounds like hard work







I know you’ve talked about leaving him and I hope when you do, you have more deserved fun 💃 🎉 🎊

He can be. But he also has many positive sides that I realize daily observing other people are hard to find. That's one of the reasons I keep sticking around. I like that he can accept mistakes and make up for them and honestly he does it more than I do. Sometimes I just think I should just not be in a relationship cause I have too many things that bother me in it and maybe I'm too intolerant...or maybe I strive for perfection too much. We're all humans and humans have flaws...

Or you’ve just outgrown his control freak ways….why are you putting the blame on yourself when it’s evident he puts you down …

He wasn't actually controlling at all until I changed my attitude and he became suspicious and unsure. Truth is, I was gladly accepting all suggestions from him and then stopped, so that made him question why I changed. I can't say it's either's fault, maybe I've just outgrown relationship 🤷🏼‍♀️ In fact I read that somewhere in our synastry, that it will happen. Some Uranus aspect to something, don't remember anymore...

What transits do you have to your 7th?



Sometimes when the controller loses control and the other person starts to assert themselves, things break down…..

Right now? Moon, Merc and Mars transiting 7th. Pluto square natal Mars in 7th. But I frankly think all my complications came with nodal return and Saturn's transit through 12th house. I'm loosing ground in every area in my life, so I don't think this is as much about relationships. I've been a wreck lately and emotional mess, barely holding myself together given the circumstances I found myself in. I've experienced a trauma with my mom's sickness and that left a massive scar on me. That whole situation had massive impact on me that will take quite some time to recover from.

It’s a huge thing losing your mother…especially when like with yours she was very sick. It can leave you very vulnerable and lost 😞

It was horrible. I know we all have to die at some point but the way she was just left to die by doctors is what terrified me. They had plenty of time to help her and did not even lift a finger. I'm preparing a law suit but need to get my head cleared first

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It’s 💔😞

Good luck with the lawsuit.

Everything has been great and going good. Suddenly after I didnt contact her for an entire day she started to ignore me, be cold in her texts and say that after my silence the previous day she didnt think she'd hear from me again. Super dramatic when 2 days before that I sent her an essay on my feelings and how much I cared about her. Backstory - we met whilst travelling where she just moved to and I met her on my last month. Anyway after that she was super cold, bailed on a festival we had booked and completely ignored me. Refused to see me. I acted crazy and went to her house at 2am the night she bailed. She was annoyed at that said I scared her and it wasnt cool and that she already wasnt feeling great after our last interaction (where I was cold and distant because I was hurt by her) and then my silence the following day didnt help. Today was my last day and she refused to see me. She hasnt replied to any of my whatsapp messages. Totally went COLD. She turned off her read receipts but hasnt blocked me off whatsapp or instagram. She had told me several times before this that she wanted to keep in touch.

Safe to say I'll never hear from her again right? I think me not contacting her that entire day is the issue and obviously turning up to her house (we lived 6min walk apart). Am I wrong? I've stressed myself thinking what I did wrong...

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tell it to pour some milk on shivling helps a bunch...

Lol what does this mean? Never heard of this saying before

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tell it to pour some milk on shivling helps a bunch...

Lol what does this mean? Never heard of this saying before
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it soothes the insides

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I think she definitelt needs to pour the milk. I'm at peace that I tried and I was open about everything. Laid it out on the table. However, I am pretty upset at her behaviour since Sunday especially after the intense month we had together. Total stubbornness..

People I need someone to reply. I cant stop thinking about this girl and I need some sort of closure even if its from people on the internet 😩