Funny stuff....

I purchased this book today for an xmas gift for my Libra friend and it is basically a man's book, so I had to put myself in his shoes and I was cracking up in the store...

During sex would you rather hear...

"Uh-oh" or "What is that!"?
"Oops" or "That's where that is"?
a yawn or "Oy Vey"?
nervous laughter or maniacal laughter?
"Must kill president" or "Circuit malfunction"?


Batman Villian or Dildo?
a. The Pengiun
b. The Emperor
c. The Joker
d. The Tickler
e. Mr. Softee
f. Two-face

Would you rather have a lover who is...

6'3 tall with a 3 inch penis or 5'2 with a 9 inch penis?
7' tall with a 1 inch penis or 2' tall with a 12 inch penis?
18' tall with a 4 inch penis or 1' tall with a 64 inch penis?

Leave these penises out of this! How are you??

I just want to be looked deeply into my eyes without a single sound - in the background or otherwise. That would distract just too much...

Libra.. "I just want to be looked deeply into my eyes without a single sound - in the background or otherwise. That would distract just too much..."

Okay that's deep and will lead to only one thing happening. Don't you find it hard to focus when there are a lot of distractions... but boy oh boy when it gets quiet... god only knows whats coming next...

Thankfully my libra and I have not been in close quarters lately. We both know we probably would not make it out of there alive, if we did.

But anyway.. about me..Oh.. I am still in turmoil.. but what else is new. I have not spoken to him since Monday. Which is not a long time, but it feels like 5 months have gone by.... I am up at this ungodly hour because I can not sleep thinking about his tail... So I decided to get online and check you guys out.

What is going on with you?? What is your love life like??

Libra..

Check out my post under "taking time vs brush off". It's the latest on what is going on with me.

Bratgirl

If you put me on the spot and I am not ready - I'll take the exit.

You need to play it safe. Pressure is not good. Where is your patience? You cannot take the aquarian approach (whatever that approach is) when you now know what to do/not to do from talking to the libras on this board. He will never be direct and is never going to be direct. Maybe you need to seduce him or at least see him, so he can see your love for him for himself. When are you actually seeing him?

Also, why are you discussing the chic?? That topic is off limit and the fact that you don't want to talk about the chic is also a very good hint on your part (and one that is executed so easily and effortlessly e.g. he can take it in many ways and ponder - fantastic!!) I would take that approach if you were dating someone and I wanted to have you...

Also, he will beat around the bush if you beat around the bush - it's still a conversation and attention. Why should he make himself vulnerable, unnecessarily?

Timing is everything and all you have...

Do you have a song that you feel describes you?

Libra...
"Where is your patience?"
Have very little at this point. 6 Years of waiting.. Getting tired.😢


"Maybe you need to seduce him or at least see him, so he can see your love for him for himself. When are you actually seeing him?"

We talked about this today... This is one of the questions on my list for him.. I do not get to see him much. I want to show him my love very badly, but I can't. He won't let me. He has to have all the control in this and he won't let me have any... So if he tells me he just loves me as a friend, I will probably be relieved because it will then be easier for me to withdrawal my feelings and concentrate on something else. This limbo stuff is killing this aqua girl.. We do not operate well in limbo... We kill ourselves overanalyzing every second of the day. I could not even sleep last night!! That is too much control this guy has over me.

The Chic...
I tried to avoid the topic and he did too, I could tell, but I could also tell the friend side of him was kicking him in the butt and he really wanted to tell me that about her. I noticed he does not tell me good stuff about them anymore, just if they are doing bad or if they have broken it off... which in 6 months has been about 4 times. Yeah real stable... and healthy.

My heart hurt when he was talking about her. I just have to wait it out.

"Do you have a song that you feel describes you?"
Not me, but how I feel about him " Sweetest Taboo" Sade.. maybe.. Portishead, "Woman". That is how I feel right now.

You sound like a very together and intelligent girl.

I was going to write that Libra finds it important to close one relationship before starting another but I actually do not think that that is necessarily true. I think we are capable of liaising with various at the same time (others might disagree). I also think we are capable of discussing a bad relationship with another lover, albeit in an informative and objective manner. If YOU then spoke badly of the girl - the chic in this case - Libra would defend the chic or at least find the judgment in Libra's favour, odd.

He sounds very caught up in all this and you're the outlet. Also, conflict is very disturbing to us. Not easy to then be happy two hours afterwards with someone else - depends on how heavy it is, of course.

I think the fact that he wants to share this difficult stuff with you is a good sign, in a way. Trust is there and a desire to talk to you about what's going on in his life. He is also letting you know what's going on at his end - not a lot, bascially - an indirect way of saying Hello!...

If you want him, truly want him, then roll with it. Don't nag in any way and be very firm in how you like him. Be his happy place. I've been here and kinda speak from experience. Be supportive, be there. But GIVE HIM THE SPACE to come to you - lay the path for him to come and sort of make him feel that he won't be denied.

Also, you've been friends for so long - how will he spot the change in you - your signs of your love for him?

You're probably almost there...

Don't put ANY doubt in his mind in the fact that you think he's great but at the same time - no drewling...

Libra...
"Also, you've been friends for so long - how will he spot the change in you - your signs of your love for him?"

Oh he knows now. I basically sent him an email Tuesday telling him I desire him..bad.. he told me the day before I could have him if I desired him enough.. of course he does not remember saying that, so now I feel like a fool.. but oh well. There is nothing I can do about that now.

The email today was very clear also and I am sending him a card for Xmas that says some lines from Dido's..."Stoned"

Chorus...
If you.. won't let me.. fall for you..
then you.. won't see that best that..
I would love to do for you
instead
you will be missing me...
when I'm gone ...
cuz I'm bored of handing out in the cold...

I am unsure now if I should still send this card.. I will have to see what his response is to my list of questions before I send the card tomorrow. Then I will know which way to go with this... If he does not respond by then.. then I don't know.

"If you want him, truly want him, then roll with it. Don't nag in any way and be very firm in how you like him. Be his happy place. I've been here and kinda speak from experience. Be supportive, be there. But GIVE HIM THE SPACE to come to you - lay the path for him to come and sort of make him feel that he won't be denied."

I'm lovin it. I am going to print this and post it in my diary tonight... as a reminder of what my goal is when I want to give up on loving him in this way...

Libra

"If YOU then spoke badly of the girl - the chic in this case - Libra would defend the chic or at least find the judgment in Libra's favour, odd."

This is true. I learned this the hard way with his first gf that was cheating.. will never do that again. I just listen and kind of try to take her side, cuz then he will HAVE to contradict me, and I win!😉

Although I am not an expert on Librans I think you are well and truly a very important part of your Librans life, especially if he is telling you so much of his private world as hard as it is for you to hear it but yes, trust is a huge thing with these men.....I find that when my Libran speaks badly of his ex (and he does) that I just listen and not add to it...I think he just wants to vent his frustrations (although they have been apart for 18 odd months, he does speak of her as he has a child with her and it will always be that way) but I don't say anything to add to it and I think he appreciates he can just say it to somebody and not have a long winded discussion as to why he might be right or wrong, etc, plus if I don't add to it, it is a short discussion LOL but he knows I am there for him...then we can move on to talking about better things and going back to all the laughs we have. I don't think a Libran would just go off about his private life to just anybody!

Aquarianbrat, like Libra said above....make your place his "happy place"....he'll appreciate that so much and I think you'll definitely be in there with a chance...as far as him seeing any signs of love for him? Don't Librans fall in love with their friends? Stay patient, keep busy and above all, stop banging your head against the wall - I have done so much of that LOL...it hurts!!! and OMG at the sleepless nights wondering why its been so long between communications, why it feels he's being so aloof, etc. He'll come to you but yeah seduce him!!!!! LOL

My Libran is shy around women - again he said this to me yesterday.....I have a little more front than him so I take his hand and lead him gently....he's loving it and deep down I think he is relieved I have done so......perhaps you could gently lead yours a little more....don't wait for him - be exciting, spontaneous 🙂....only you know how far you could go with him as you've known him for so long...but go with it and you might be surprised to see what happens 🙂

Chatz..

You seem like you are a really fun and positive person. I see why your Libra likes you... I would love to be spontaneous with him... but we are about 218 miles away from each other. I am going to have to get creative with this one huh... I CAN think up some stuff though, which is an awesome trait of aqua's, so I will have to give this some deep thought. I'll let you know if I come up with anything.

So is this the guy who saw you out with the other guy (possibly)?? and is now calling again...

this is the guy LOl....but he didn't see me out with the other one thank goodness....I thought perhaps he may have but now know he didnt...just ironic that everything has gone from being so casual to now being on the exclusive side within just days. Its like he has a guydar though and knows when things might be cooling down and then starts up a conversation like we've been chatting everyday but anyway its led to me feeling pretty good about us 🙂

thank you for the compliments and yeah I think that's what he likes about me.....hmmmm 218 miles apart? ok well definitely think up something creative so that he thinks about it til he almost goes insane wanting to be with you!!! I know you can do it and what better time of the year than now—

Good luck

"he told me the day before I could have him if I desired him enough."

That means to deserve him. Now unless he was drunk, there is no way he does not remember saying this.

Bratgirl - you are almost there.

But always remember that we are reactive. If he wants the control then give it to him. Take it back from him later.

I am in doubt about the Dido lines. That's after he's confessed. Call him and stuff but don't discuss your feelings perse and don't allow room for the chic. It's such good hinting material. Don't explain why, just say that you don't want to talk about her. 'It's boring' or 'I am bored with that' or 'her'. 'Go talk to someone else about her'. But don't say 'I have better things to do with my life' because then you're judging him.

Talk about yourself and how great you are - in a subtle way. And be supportive of who he is but the chic needs to take a hike...

Also, what do you mean by list of questions? Has he seen a list of questions?

Libra..

Yep! I sent a list of questions I wanted him to answer yesterday morning. I was up at the crack of dawn bc I could not sleep.. he was running through my brain like a freight train.... I emailed him a list of questions I wanted anwered. He always says he is an open book and has nothing to hide, so I politely reminded him of that and said I wanted some honest answers. He called about 1:00pm said he got my email and wanted to talk. I asked if he could email me back bc I get embarrased talking to him about these types of things... I don't know why.. we can never have a real conversation about us... either his phone rings and he has to go, or I have to go, or I shut down, or I start getting a bunch of "I don't knows" from him and I am tired of that pathetic answer. I want him to think about it and give me the truth. I told him I am clearly missing something if every time I see him he brings up stuff about us dating or kissing, after talking about this chic for hours... I don't get it and I am tired of not getting it.

We spoke about several of the more general questions I wrote, and were spatting back and forth about those.... the others he said he would email me back on. I am actually kind of scared to check my email.

Okay. I will throw out the Dido lyrics.. I wrote him this long letter in his Xmas card but I was thinking about rewriting it anyway given, his claims to NOT remember saying, I can have him..... what I wrote is kind of pointless and overkill for just a friendship.

Libra..."That means to deserve him. Now unless he was drunk, there is no way he does not remember saying this."

I can not see him not remembering either. They say Libra's have really good memories and I know he does.. he has reminded me of stuff I said years ago, but he can not remember what he said 5 days ago— OK. But I have to play his game, bc what else can I do? There is some reason why he got a sudden case of amnesia.

Libra.."That means to deserve him"

I am re-reading through your post.. what did you mean my this.. he said I don't desire him enough, not deserve. Did I write that wrong??

6 Years of waiting

After six years, walk away honey. If something was going to happen, it would. Sometimes they need to miss you. Cut him off and move on. He will either come running for you or he won't. Either way, you need out of limbo and need to move on.

*** I also think we are capable of discussing a bad relationship with another lover,

Yes. If we are not terribly attached. If we are attached, I don't think we would do anything to sabotage the one. If you want me to behave proper ... make me fall in love. I clean up very well.

*** Don't Librans fall in love with their friends?

Yep. I am in love with most of my friends. I think they are the most fabulous people. I can't believe how wonderful they are. I am in awe. I almost worship them I am so in love with them. Doesn't mean I want to shag them. Doesn't mean I want to marry them. (even if I do shag them ... doesn't mean I want a romantic relationship with them.)

Brat, if you have a true desire for him and therefore are not casual, then you deserve him...

I have discussed a bad 'then current' relationship with a new prospect - because I wanted him to know the state of play on the former relationship.

*** I have discussed a bad 'then current' relationship with a new prospect - because I wanted him to know the state of play on the former relationship.

Ahh yes. I see what you are saying now libra.

LS..

Got'cha! So many have said this... so many have said otherwise... Fortunately I am an aqua so most of my time is spend analyzing the two extremes and trying to come up with the right formula... it's just a brain teaser for me now... I pretty much have no options unless he comes to me..

Libra ..

Got you too.. about desire and deserving... Holidays are hard..

Bratgirl, you've come a long way. You need to keep your spirit high and ride it out a bit longer, or just drive to him and look him right in the eye...

Libra..

I love your logic! You are a lot like me. I wish we lived in a society in which that was acceptable. I know he would embrace me if I did that... but if some chic came to the door.. I would not be prepared.. that is a long drive. 🙂

But seriously, how often do you guys catch up?

I have seen him 2 times in 4 years. And those two times have both been in the past 2 months. Once in Oct. and once in Nov. before that I was married.

Did he plan any of it, or did you do all the driving?

I did most of the driving.. he is afraid of my ex and so am I, so it was just easier. The trip in Nov. He met me about half way where his boy lives and we all hung out.

What am I going to do if he ever finds this thread—

I listen to "Secret Garden" a lot, by Bruce Springsteen. BS is also a Libra, did you know? Anyway, the words are all me. Wonder if other Libras also recognise themselves, including Libra men, too.

There must be these songs that make us think 'That's just so me'...

Paul Simon's "Something So Right" is me too. And he also happens to be a Libra...

Hide, badly...

He will not find you and if he did he'd be dead flattered...

Maybe we should point him into this direction...lol

BS "Secret Garden" was that on Jerry McGuire?? You got me with the Paul Simon.. lost??

I'd die from embarrassment and he would probably quit our friendship and actually I probably would too.. well I am not sure of that, but I sure don't want to find out...😢

Yes "secret garden" was on Jerry McGuire.

She'll let you in her house
If you come knockin' late at night
She'll let you in her mouth if the
Words you say are right
If you pay the price
She'll let you deep inside
But there's a secret garden she hides
She'll let you in her car
To go drivin' round
She'll let you into the parts of herself
That'll bring you down
She'll let you in her heart
If you got a hammer and a vise
But into her secret garden, don't think twice
You've gone a million miles
How far'd you get to that place where
You can't remember and you can't forget
She'll lead you down a path
There'll be tenderness in the air
She'll let you come just far enough
So you know she's really there
She'll look at you and smile
And her eyes will say
She's got a secret garden
Where everything you want
Where everything you need
Will always stay a million miles away,

You've got the cool water
When the fever runs high
And you've got the look of love
Right in your eyes
And I was in a crazy motion
Till you calmed me down
It took a little time
But you calmed me down

Some people never say the words
"i love you"
It's not their style to be so bold
Some people never say the words
"i love you"
But like a child
They're longing to be told

They've got a wall in china
It's a thousand miles long
To keep out the foreigners
They made it strong
And I've got a wall around me
That you can't even see
It took a little time
To get next to me

If something goes wrong
I'm the first to admit it
The first to admit it
But the last one to know
If something goes right
Well, it's likely to lose me
It's apt to confuse me
Because it's such an unusual sight
Oh I can't get used to something so right
Something so right

Some people never say the words
"i love you"
It's not their style to be so bold
Some people never say the words
"i love you"
But like a child
I'm longing to be told

They've got a wall in china
And I've got a wall around me
It took a little time
To get next to me

If I remember correctly you told him you were posting on an astrology messageboard. You wouldn't have done that if you didn't want to be found.

I do have songs that make me think... that is just so me.. but they are never songs that are about someone like me... they just feel like me or something I can totally relate to.

Like Nelly Furtado's .. " Why do all things come to an end" I am not sure if that is the exact title, but the first time I heard it I was like... that is MEEEEEE!! All the way.

IGNORE THAT ONE ----- THAT WAS ANOTHER VERSION

Youve got the cool water
When the fever runs high
Youve got the look of lovelight in your eyes
And I was in crazy motion
til you calmed me down
It took a little time
But you calmed me down

When something goes wrong
Im the first to admit it
Im the first to admit it
And the last one to know

When something goes right
Well its likely to lose me, mm
Its apt to confuse me
Its such an unusual sight
Oh, I cant, I cant get used to something so right
Something so right

Theyve got a wall in china
Its a thousand miles long
To keep out the foreigners they made it strong
And Ive got a wall around me
That you cant even see
It took a little time
To get next to me

When something goes wrong
Im the first to admit it
Im the first to admit it
And the last one to know
When something goes right
Well its likely to lose me, mm
Its apt to confuse me
Because its such an unusual sight
Oh, I cant, I cant get used to something so right
Something so right

Some people never say the words I love you
Its not their style
To be so bold
Some people never say the words I love you
But like a child theyre longing to be told, mm

When something goes wrong
Im the first to admit it
Im the first to admit it
And the last one to know
When something goes right
Well its likely to lose me, mm
Its apt to confuse me
Because its such an unusual sight
I swear, I cant, I cant get used to something so right
Something so right

I was being general... LS. I did not think he would go hunting... but now I think he may be and then I was thinking he probably would not be able to find this exact site, there hundreds of them out there.. but then I think... it was not hard for me to find

Yes I know, that's why I like Secret Garden. It's not about desires that I recognise or dreams or whatever...

It's just about how my mind works, lots of conditions and the generous smile that hides so much, I guess

My little song at the moment is the Nico version of I'm Not Saying:

I'm not sayin' that I love you
I'm not sayin' that I'll care if you love me
I'm not sayin' that I'll care
I'm not sayin' I'll be there when you want me
I can't give my heart to you
Or tell you that I'll sing your name up to the sky
I can't lay the promise down
That I'll always be around when you need me

Now I may not be alone each time you see me
Along the street or in a small cafe
But still I won't deny or mistreat you
Baby if you let me have my way

I'm not sayin' I'll be sorry
For all the things that I might say that make you cry
I can't say I'll always do
The things you want me to
I'm not sayin' I'll be true but I'll try

Now I may not be alone each time you see me
Or show up when I promised that I would
But still I won't deny or mistreat you
Baby if you love me like you should

I'm not sayin' I'll be sorry
For all the things that I might say that make you cry
I can't say I'll always do
The things you want me to
I'm not sayin' I'll be true but I'll try
I can't say I'll always do
The things you want me to
I'm not sayin' I'll be true but I'll try

Libra... that's kinda deep!!

Hey.. I will check with you guys in a few. I gotta run to the post office before it closes to send his package off...

Well you know us superficial libra chicks! Apparently we cannot have a real, meaningful and DEEP conversation...

Sorry, that was a conversation on DXP a while back which still makes me laugh...

Sparrow, the lyrcis are so cautious and self protecting...!

LS, that is a typical Libran song. Wow does that song fit their personality.