Read between the lines

Hi, Im wondering if Librans like us to read between the lines...I've been seeing a really gorgeous man who instigated us getting together in the first place, we see eachother once a week/fortnight (which isn't much) but its always very pleasant and we get along really well. And yeah, Im getting hooked at a rapid rate but not so sure about him....although he always contacts me it seems he's rather aloof at times...I do sense though, he is keen as again, he contacts me.

He mentioned that he was going to a party next weekend but he wouldn't be drinking as he had to drive and that it probably wouldn't be a late night....I would have assumed he'd ask me along as we are seeing one another even though it is somewhat casual at this stage but its been 6 weeks and I for one would hate to go alone to a thing like that....call me strange!!

Should I have read between the lines and offered to drive or go along? I know he wouldn't take kindly to rejection so do you think this is a fear of getting a "No" should he have asked?

Im not quite sure as to why he even mentioned it - it came from nowhere.

Also, yeah, what's with the last minute notice of hooking up? is this a LIbran trend?

Thanks

He's a Libra...they are social creatures and can go to parties alone and be perfectly fine with it.

Sounds to me that he's just letting you know of his plans that he's made - not really an invitation but merely a courtesy to tell you his upcoming plans.

that's nice of him 🙂....I am supposing that means he cares enough to let me know, either that or he just talks a lot about not much LOL.

I guess not hearing from him for 2-3 days at a time is normal too....but when we do catch up, its pretty good.

Love this site....so informative about these wonderful Libran creatures!!

🙂

YES, we are very indirect and want you to read between the lines. We hint a lot...

But equally, I try to read between the lines as well with other people, it goes both ways. Analyse all the time...

If I don't take you to parties or out with my friends, it means I am keeping my options open.

Based on this and your other post, I am assuming he isn't serious about you.

Libras never plan ahead, so yeah the last minute thing is to be expected as being the norm with him.

He is probably just letting you know his plans, but then again they are weird creatures. At some point in the conversation I think he would have mentioned it though...

thank you - will just see where it goes and not get my hopes up too high 🙂

Thanks again

Chatz and this won't be the last time you have to do that....

Chatz..

You need to read my post about my Libra best friend. Wow! Get ready to put in some work and at the same time keep your feelings out of it or you will go crazy. It is definitely a dance and it has to be a graceful one or he will go to another partner. But you still must lead. On one of the other posts someone said... not to let the Libra go in the direction he wants to because the two of you will end of no where, just drifting thus you must gently but firmly guide him in the direction you want him to go and do it while making him think it was his idea (that's just a guy thing). Yeah... sound fun or like a part-time job. The latter. Sometimes I wonder if it is even worth it and then I am reminded of why I love him and of all the egomaniac jerks I have dated in the past and I just can't let go. I get the gumption to give it one more earnest try and it is always worth it. Libra men, if you get a good one, are always worth the effort. At worst you will end up with a good friend.

thanks aquarianbrat 🙂....I think he's definitely worth the hard work and I will certainly TRY to keep the feelings out of it...it is hard though - grrrrr lol.

Thank you for the advice....I know he's at that "thinking" phase at the moment and he did mention he has been very distracted at work since meeting me, but we have such a great time when we do see one another and he finds it so difficult to leave when its time to do so - its just getting him to commit to seeing me again that's always the hardest part (and at the moment its once a week or fortnight which isnt nearly enough), and I don't do the rejection thing too well myself and have always had a partner who does the chasing but as a Leo, I have a little more front than him so I will try to gently lead - lead him where Im not sure, but I'll try hehehehe....I think he needs somebody to definitely do that but I don't want him to feel he is obligated to do anything as that's another problem: He will just want to please grrrrr....but knowing he's just sitting at home today and most nights I need to do something to make him want to see me more....just finding the right way is going to prove difficult - I'll have to think about it (taking a leaf out of his book)

Thanks again - its so confusing but I certainly think he's worth the effor 🙂

WOW if we are not in the same boat. I am trying to think of ways to get my Libra to take the next step and want to see me more. We live in different states so it is more difficult for us.

Things will workout just be patient. It may be a long ride but an enjoyable one.

hey aquarian....looks like we are in the same boat apart from the fact I live about 5 minutes away from my Libran LOL.....I'll be patient and its great to know others are in the same boat and advice is always welcome.

Good luck with yours 🙂

Oh and one thing he did say when we first met was "run, run as fast as you can coz once you've been around me you wont want to go"....grrrrr but he was right lol

You need to say things direct and clearly to Libra male.

yup... we r so naive and stupid 😢

benjsh.."You need to say things direct and clearly to Libra male"

I needed this bit of advice today. Thanks!

Being direct and clear is the route I've decided I need to take with the Libra in my life. I've asked him to come over this evening so I can lay all the cards out on the table. I've tried to be subtle about my hints, but I obviously need to be more assertive and direct to get my point across. I've accepted that fact that I could lose him or scare him off, but it's not me to not to be straight forward and speak my mind. If he appreciates and respects me, then he'll understand where I'm coming from. If he doesn't, then it's another reason why I need to lay it all on the line.

"Non emotionally direct", You add a bit of emotion, you will complicate it further. You can infact tell a libran on his face " I am in love with you and want to know what you feel about me" or "which way do you want to see me and how long do you want to see me that way and whats next" or "what do you want me to do to be with you since i am in love with you"..

most cases he will give you extended details on how well this relationship can go wrong for an hour or a day and then silence for couple of days... then repeat all the same dialogues again and if he comes up with the cons again tell him you dont care. 😉

and a normal libran is almost as per the lyrics of sting's "Shape of my Heart" if you know how to read between libran lines. 😉

houstonpeach74... You've got to let us know how this goes. I am at the laying it on the line point with my Libra, but am VERY nervous about scaring him. I want to write him a note in a cute Xmas card, I tried that with a Thank You card I sent him a while ago and he kept bringing it up for weeks. But still we are at the same point. I went to see him Wednesday and had a really really great time but I have not had a good conversation with him since then... I know he loves me so I am trying not to let the calling thing bug me but dang. I need to know if he is IN LOVE with me and it seems impossible to get over the hump between LOVE and IN LOVE. I am planning to try the DIRECT APPROACH as suggested by our "online Libra therapists", but like she said, how direct is too direct. All of us are going through the same thing with these Libra men, this is kind of ironic to me.

I have a list of blunt questions I want answered about how he feels about me, but am afraid if I ask him over the phone, since I don't have the luxury of seeing him face-to-face, he may say, "I don't know...", and that will piss me off further.
How do Libra males feel about letters and cards? Is that considered cowardly?

STING LYRICS

"Shape Of My Heart"

He deals the cards as a meditation
And those he plays never suspect
He doesn't play for the money he wins
He doesn't play for the respect
He deals the cards to find the answer
The sacred geometry of chance
The hidden law of probable outcome
The numbers lead a dance

I know that the spades are the swords of a soldier
I know that the clubs are weapons of war
I know that diamonds mean money for this art
But that's not the shape of my heart

He may play the jack of diamonds
He may lay the queen of spades
He may conceal a king in his hand
While the memory of it fades

I know that the spades are the swords of a soldier
I know that the clubs are weapons of war
I know that diamonds mean money for this art
But that's not the shape of my heart
That's not the shape, the shape of my heart

And if I told you that I loved you
You'd maybe think there's something wrong
I'm not a man of too many faces
The mask I wear is one
Those who speak know nothing
And find out to their cost
Like those who curse their luck in too many places
And those who fear are lost

I know that the spades are the swords of a soldier
I know that the clubs are weapons of war
I know that diamonds mean money for this art
But that's not the shape of my heart
That's not the shape of my heart

thelibran...We need all the help we can get😉

(Sparrow covers her eyes and crosses her fingers)

I just know that I don't like being pushed in a relationship and pushed to declare emotional vulnerabilities. If I love you, I show you through various actions.

I don't think I would do a card. I think if you are going to do it ... do it ... but be prepared for him to take off for awhile after.

I was thinking the same thing about letters/notes. My libra friend isn't good at returning email all the time. He will text the hell out of a phone though, sometimes rather than call. I just told him I would like to speak to him about something. I myself shall use the direct approach. I don't know if anyone is more direct than a scorp... I will try my hardes to chose my words carefully. However I haven't gotten a response yet. Since that party thing, man has he been distant.

I would take the libran's advice (as he is a libra male) no offence sparrow.

AquaBrat,
From my standpoint, when I was in love with someone, I said it and I meant it. Someone shouldn't have to wait for someone to ask them if they're in love - if you're in love with someone, you don't wait to be asked.

Chances are he's not in love the same way you are, so I wouldn't ask him that directly. Let him take his time telling you. I'm sure he has ways of showing you he loves you, but just let him tell you he's IN LOVE with you on his own terms.

If you've already told him that you love him, then a mushy Christmas card would be OK. But don't give him a "I Love You, Do You Love me" card if this is the first time he'll know how you feel about him.

I don't know if anyone is more direct than a scorp...

uh, yeah..Taurus 😛

ha, QueenScorp and Sparrow and I are in the same boat...riding the same waves!

AquaBrat

If someone is in love with you, can't you tell? Especially if you were friends prior then can you not spot the behavioral change? E.g. when they see you they cannot do anythying but smile...And it is a smile that says it all.

Libra will tell you when in love with you, we have no issue with that, BUT we have to realise for ourselves that you now need to know. If you are too early with your confession you will chase him away. You can show him but NOT verbally tell him, unless he's told you. We need to be the first of the two, kinda...

Me?

I am not dating a Libra unless you consider me dating myself at the moment ... which I kind of am. lol!

I just know if someone put me on the spot and said "I love you, do you love me?" and I didn't .... OMG ... the panic. I would probably say I love you or I care .... and then they wouldn't hear from me/see me for WEEKS!

Maybe that is bad but I can't stand hurting someone's feelings.

If I did love them, it would be different but as Libra said ... you should know because I would be doing things for you, smiling, happy to see you, etc.

I think you are better off softening it and saying "how do you feel towards me? where do you see this going?"

I do agree with the Libra as far as letting them be the first to express being in love. They very well, might run. However, you should express your concerns to him about what his intentions are as far as you are concerned, just to be clear. That is what I meant when I said I was going to be up front with my libra friend. Never thought to tell him I loved him. I will make it known that I genuinely care for him and support what he does first. Libras like to know they have a friend first. Way more important to them than just a sexual partner.

Sparrow, didn't see gave some of the same advice.

Libra - A question for you: I get the biggest smile and hugs/kisses too from my friend whenever I see him, even at the gym most times... However I still don't know if he is in love with me or not, as I am pretty sure he still has feelings for his ex a Sag. who he recently broke up with (about a month and a half permanenetly) they did go back and forth a time or two until a month or so ago.

What about Sag. girls and Libra men? - Libra what do you think the difference for a Libra is with a Sag. girl than a Scorp. (besides sexually)

For sure!

I think Libras want to know that we will remain friends after too. Friendship is really important to us. I fall in love with my friends. Few things hurt like losing a friend.

Sorry my for sure has more to do with libras need to be friends with their romantic interests.

Sex with a stranger is okay but I like knowing the person just likes me for me. Sex between friends is sharing a fun time.

sparrow...that's so open ended though - asking "how do you feel towards me?" that could be just as detrimental as asking "Do you love me?" Either way, you're putting someone on the spot.

Just let him tell you how he feels about you on his own time...don't rush it. Don't throw him off balance.

Oh but you have to be careful ... if you sense your friend is getting too emotionally attached you have to pull back.

I know. I know. No straight answers. Shoot me.

🙂

No because how do you feel leaves a variety of responses ... I like you as a friend. I care about you deeply. You are cool. (There is weasel room.)

Asking do you love me .... far more delicate. You can weasel out of it but if you say I love you ... do you love me ... no weasel room and a very awkward situation.

I'm being ignored. 😢

QueenScorp...how recent did he break up with the other girl? If it's been less than 6 months ago, then you can't seriously expect him to be IN LOVE with you...that's rushing it.

QueenScorpio

Just to put a brief context to who I am - I am a Libra female but was with a Libra man for a very long time.

One of my best friends is a Scorpio. When we were younger I found her quite dramatic (probably becuase I am not) but she's turned out a great woman. I really like her. Sags worry too much for me, personally. I like them, my sister is one, they make very earthy mothers, their patience with their kids is amazing, but they nag on a bit too long. Both types don't apologise very well. I'm sure he finds you refreshing 'cause you are funny and chatty, as is he...

As regards your Libra friend - you don't want to be the rebound girlfriend. I don't know all your details and actually, I don't do rebound myself but a month and a half is nothing. If you are serious with Mr Libra e.g. thinking long haul...you'll need a long term strategy:

1) (pretend to) have a busy social life - this is very sexy to us (lots of friends and busy, phone calls, be popular)
2) remember what he tells you and sometimes quote him - usually that is what he does when he likes someone (see if he does this with you)
3) don't tell/write him how you feel - just be there and be sweet, we like sweet people
4) don't be sticky, don't miss him verbally, don't need him

Just be a little cool (e.g. awesome) and don't want him too badly. If he likes you he will do the work for both of you. He wants/needs the challenge and the journey to realising that he loves you is how he falls in love with you. Remember that people do not fal in love at the same time, and both need time. And Libra will not be rushed but when we confess - it's for life and as good as a marriage proposal. It's solid becuase it has taken so long.

Houstonpeach, pay attention to the responses I have been giving you and my previous posts. I am clearly not looking for him to be in love with me as I am not in love with him. I might love to be with him and long for our closeness (believe it or not - the friendship more than the sex) He makes me laugh and has the best advice. Although when it comes to himself he is wishy washy...

They officially broke up and not rebounded about two months ago. I have been there with him through the break up and make up as well as this last break up so I am pretty understanding and didn't get my hopes up on him being my man...

HP

If you have his love and you know this (I think you guys are solid, aren't you?) then it is good to be direct with us and it will get you far. But don't shout, or complain, or blame...

2) remember what he tells you and sometimes quote him - usually that is what he does when he likes someone (see if he does this with you)

This is very true. My Libra has been teaching me some words and phrases in his native language of Lebanese and each day we talk, I'll recite something to him. Some words I've managed to butcher so it's like our little joke, but it also helps me remember the words. They like to know that they're being listened to. Don't criticize or correct them unless you do it tactfully and you're absolutely certain it's incorrect - that hurts their pride. Instead tell him "Gosh, you're so smart" or "It's awesome how much you know", stuff like that.

Libra also says that if he likes you he'll do the work. This is true too. I hardly ever call my Libra, instead he calls me every morning as my "wake up" call. He'll text message me each workday morning to make sure I got to work OK. He'll text message me each weekend morning to say "Good morning, Beautiful" or "Good morning, Sunshine". I figure he does this and continues to do this because I've showed my appreciation for it. Just be appreciative of anything he does and says to you - directly or indirectly, complimentary or nuetral.

Sorry Queen, I was basing my response off of what you posted: "However I still don't know if he is in love with me or not, as I am pretty sure he still has feelings for his ex a Sag. who he recently broke up with

Thanks Libra,

Just as I thought and have been advising. So, should I wait to see if he responds about the talk or should I just write instead—

I started as his friend we met during his break up and I know all the details.. At some point after we got close during the second time they broke up (after we had been intimate) he told me he started getting emotional about us - he drew back a little and at the time I thought he was crazy because I didn't feel that way at the time, however from the beginning I was very attracted to him.

I am a scorp intellect is one of my virtues, though emotional very protective of my heart. He has not completely healed from the Sag. So I definitely am not looking for more than a friendship right now - with or without the sex (although I would definitely perfer with - he is awesome!)

I am recently divorced from a Libra who hasn't gotten over me. So I know it takes time.

Queenscorpio

What exactly is it you want him to know? Or what is it you need to hear?

Fill me in...

HP, that was in response to something someone said about if he loves you and smiling. I didn't quite agree, because my libra friend has the biggest smile, hugs and sometimes kisses when we see eachother and I don't think it is quite possible for him to be in love with me right now. Wether I am or not.

Please fill us in...because I'm a bit confused. You don't know if he's in love you yet you aren't ready to get serious with him...

Please fill us in...because I'm a bit confused. You don't know if he's in love you yet you aren't ready to get serious with him...

I don't like people getting snippy with me when the signals are all jumbled.

gotcha

Libra,

You might have to read some of my previous posts to get the whole scoop. However, I don't want to lose his friendship. It has changed dramatically lately. I like being around him talking to him. I like him, however I don't think he or I are ready for a relationship right now. He has been my rock and I his and lately that hasn't been happening. He has become distant. Maybe he needs time to think. Howeverhe would text me to check on me from time to time or ask how I am or drop a line or two at the gym(we workout at the same gym around the same time). Recently he wanted not to have sex - He said he needed to do some soul searching and sex was the one thing he never had control over and wanted to try to see if he could have some control. He has done this before and it lasted 3days and he called for a sleep over.

All of this happened after we both wound up at a Kappa party (he is a nupe) and some of his frats were talking to me. He and I danced and chatted for a moment but we weren't together. I really don't think he should or could be jealous. He did give me the stare down a time or two though.

What do you think?