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Update:

So, I spoke to my friend today for a 6 hours on and off today. [smile] I texted him just to see what he was doing around 6pm, and he was about to go play ball but we texted a little about our weeks.. He didnt have such a good last week so I cheered him up a bit, as a "friend" would do [wink] lol... Then during our text time, he called me while I was driving back to school to ask a question about Sams Club (nothing worth mentioning lol) and told me to call him when I got to my school. So when I arrived back at school, my roomie and I wanted to bake cookies (haha!) so I texted him saying I was at school, but would call him when I finished baking cookies and he said okay. I called him about 1.5 hour later and we talked for over an hour, just clowning and laughing about everything, even inviting his roomie in our convo and clowning even more! He was watching the All-Star game, while I was outside watching the stars (literally, lol) so it was a good convo...I'm going around his way for the weekend to hang with my girls, so the likelihood of me seeing him is quite high, but I'm not gonna let him know I'm coming until later this week. So.. all smiles here!!

You know, its weird for me to have feelings for him because he has always been JUST a friend...Just a friend that I always was fond of but ignored those feelings. Now, there isn't need to ignore them.. Just show them in moderation. Taking my time and LOVING IT! =)
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And yes, QS, I didnt even let the phone ring to voicemail when I called last Sunday..lol, I was like "Oh well, he is busy so I will call again when I can".. But yea, voicemails are quite effective... I needa start leaving them more often lol

And I agree Sola, and at the moment I'm trying to find the balance between the two. In my past relationship, I was told to do everything the opposite way of how they should be (complete mind-boggling disaster mentally and emotionally with Leo..I was a dumb freshman in college) so in terms of contact, I was told to not call more than once a week because a man needs his space or I would appear "clingy". Now that I know everything I was told was the WRONG way, I am now trying to learn the right and work from there, so me and contact are slowly getting where we should be...
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Yes , but without a balance , things might be chaos... Well , I don't mean to pretend to be aloof but act with moderation.A person somehow can't control everything , especially external circumstances , for eg, your family member fall ill and you need to take care of her(like mine) - the important thing is that you need to give the other the reason why you need to withdraw for sometimes.Love without understanding and compassion is like a beautiful tree with dying internal structure...
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[Love without understanding and compassion is like a beautiful tree with dying internal structure...]

I totally agree with that exam. I think its too early to mention love though. I'm just trying to see if this friendship can be more at the moment. Because when you know someone as strictly a friend, but thing certain circumstances arise, you have to adjust to see if thats a place you want to go... So far, I can say I want to continue on this path, but only time can allow it to get to the love level, if it gets there (I'm a realist).

And Sola, you are kind of confusing me... Are you directing your advice to me or to capri? Beccause I don't really know how the last post relates to me.
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ATL_Scorpio , Your story with your Libra "friend" started quite alike mine!
It seemed like a common approach among these young Libra men 🙂 Except one thing was that he began preaching about Bible and Jesus Christ more than love poems!
My ex wasn't romantic like yours but I subtly suggested by telling him about my dream of dancing under the moonlight near the beach and he took me there! I told him I loved mystery , he told me those and tried to create some imaginative situations for us to investigate...yes , I had to admit that he was wonderful at fulfilling most of my romantic notions !
One of his most amusing sentence was " I need to focus my attention on you" .Yes , they can pretty posessive sometimes (dont say I didn't warn you!)
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Update:

So this week, I have spoken with Mr. Libra often, actually almost everyday.. And I love it!!! lol, It's like he takes me to feelings that I haven't felt before. The only thing/ battle I'm trying to fight right now is me getting over the past. It's just kinda hard for me to allow myself to like someone because liking or loving someone only gives them the power to hurt you, and I'm still trying to see if I'm capable of handling myself. The only sure thing I can say right now is that no one has come this close to opening me up as he has so far, and I only see bigger and better things occurring from here.

I'm not able to see him this weekend though 😢 because he went out of town, but I'm content and going to enjoy myself this weekend with my girls!! I do miss him though.. =/ Like, I found myself not wanting to text or talk to him on the phone simply because I want the physical interaction 10x more than via communications. Well, phone is better than text, but I havent see him in two weeks so I'm just like "ugh, dont text" lol, (even though I LOVE any contact). Hmmm, only time will tell... I still dont def. know exactly where this is going so I'm just going to enjoy myself and see what happens as time goes on.
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* And tonight, I'm supposed to see Mr. Pisces but we shall see.. I'm about to go to the mall with Mr. Aries so he can buy me some things for my date tonight haha!!

I don't believe in using people like this. If any of them find out, they will be right pissed off and you can't blame them. You would feel the same.

* but I'm not gonna let him know I'm coming until later this week. So.. all smiles here!!

Why all the games? This will be your downfall.

If you know you are going to be there ... why wait till the last minute to make plans? He has a life too. He could be planning his weekend already and you will go and be disappointed because he already has plans. Then you will be resentful because he didn't break his plans and he will be thinking, "WTF? Why didn't you just tell me you were coming?"

Oh. I see that has already been settled. He's going to be out of town anyway. Moving along ... lol!

It is hard to say what is going on at this point. He may have not returned your call for a few days because of Valentine's day. I know some men do that if they don't know what they want and don't want to make too much of a commitment to soon. I don't think that is what is going on though. For some reason, I am apt to think he is just blissfully unaware.

Libras aren't complicated beings. We just go about our life and hope for the best.

The things I find telling about your story are you haven't spent time together since that night even though you are only 30 minutes apart. (at least I think that was you.) You have never gone on an actual date. Your feelings are growing despite the lack of contact. (I find that worrisome since you might be feeding your own fantasy. Libras have no problem sleeping with friends who we see as just friends. We see it as sharing the love even if it isn't romantic partnership love.)

What you need to do is find out when you are seeing him again and asking yourself is it enough for you. I personally need a lot of couply time even if it is just late at night after other commitments .... it is just nice to come home to each other. But not everyone is the same. You really need to make your judgments about this man based on your own preferences. You need to constantly ask what do I want/need ... is he providing for and meeting these needs.

I know. I know. I am so unromantic. lol!

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Yay LS!!! (lol) Thank you!!!

[I don't believe in using people like this. If any of them find out, they will be right pissed off and you can't blame them. You would feel the same.]

I'm not using anyone. Aries is fully aware of both Pisces and Libra, and was actually kicked to the side last week. Pisces is just a "fun" thing, but Libra is more someone I spend time with.

[Why all the games? This will be your downfall.

If you know you are going to be there ... why wait till the last minute to make plans? He has a life too. He could be planning his weekend already and you will go and be disappointed because he already has plans. Then you will be resentful because he didn't break his plans and he will be thinking, "WTF? Why didn't you just tell me you were coming?"]

I never saw me not telling him right away as a game, more as me just wanting to seem like I NEEDED to see him or anything.. Plus, even if I did tell him that I was coming in advance, he still would have needed to go to the wedding.

[It is hard to say what is going on at this point. He may have not returned your call for a few days because of Valentine's day. I know some men do that if they don't know what they want and don't want to make too much of a commitment to soon. I don't think that is what is going on though. For some reason, I am apt to think he is just blissfully unaware.]

And yea, we both have an understanding that we don't celebrate V'day... Just feels as if its lost its true meaning in the mix of flowers and money wasted.

[The things I find telling about your story are you haven't spent time together since that night even though you are only 30 minutes apart. (at least I think that was you.) You have never gone on an actual date. Your feelings are growing despite the lack of contact. (I find that worrisome since you might be feeding your own fantasy. Libras have no problem sleeping with friends who we see as just friends. We see it as sharing the love even if it isn't romantic partnership love.)]

Well actually my house is 30 mins away but my school is a little less than an hour away, so that puts a ramper on somethings. Also, my schedule is QUITE busy because I have press conferences, shoots, and other things to do, and he is also busy with school and other sorts, so sometimes we just find it hard to find time. Another reason for the lack of physical interation stems from me not ready to like him...
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I have forgotten what the rights and wrongs are about dating because in my last relationship DISASTER I was told showing feelings and expressing yourself is not what it is.. Gullible, I know..

I don't want it to appear as if I have fallen for this guy though, because I actually haven't. It does somewhat appear as if I am passionate with my words, but its only that. I see us talking as simple fun for the time being. I enjoy his company and he enjoys mine.. Am I looking for a relationship with him? Can't tell too much right now because I don't even know if I'm ready for a relationship right now. I don't want to blame him for what the guy in the past did.. So right now, I'm really content with just taking this slow pace and enjoying whats going on... Although I would like to see him this weekend and just chill and clown on each other, I am fine with not seeing him this weekend as well. I guess I'm just a "whatever happens, happens" kinda girl... I don't stress or try to read too much into what "will" or "could" happen.. More of the, this happened, let's see where it can take us, but in the time being, let me see what I can do to show I'm interested.

My girls are actually saying I have the tendency to appear aloof with my feelings for dudes during the dating process, since I'm just a natural flirt, so I wonder if its the same way I'm portrayed in his eyes...

Overall, I'm the kinda girl who doesn't yearn for everyday contact (the random text checkups), who prefers to live her life separately, and instead of making my partner MY life, I make them an addition to...I like to see he has a life outside of me (which is made clear) and vica versa. Maybe I'm different.. Who knows?

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* more as me just wanting to seem like I NEEDED to see him or anything..

gottcha!

Yes. I was just worried about you building up an expectation of seeing him and him having plans. He did have plans but as long as you didn't have the expectation ... no harm, no foul. 🙂

* I have forgotten what the rights and wrongs are about dating because in my last relationship DISASTER

Understood. It took me YEARS to get over my last disaster. lol! The thing is you have to look for someone who is comfortable and compatible with YOU and your way of doing things. So many times I see women bending themselves into something they aren't and ending up in a mess because they weren't just honest about who they are and their natural inclinations. That is how we end up with the wrong guy and it sounds like your last disasater was a case of bending and twisting for the wrong guy.

The way I look at it is ... if it is easy go with it. If you are all anxious, worried, frustrated ... then something is off and the natural rythmn and flow of the relationship for YOU.

It sounds like everything is okey dokey on your end so I wouldn't worry. You'll see him when you see him.

* My girls are actually saying I have the tendency to appear aloof with my feelings for dudes during the dating process, since I'm just a natural flirt, so I wonder if its the same way I'm portrayed in his eyes...

You sound VERY similar to my best friend who is a Scorp. She comes across almost as an ice queen because she seems so aloof. She never understands this because she is so very, very sensitive and cares so much, almost too much, for other people.

She also isn't an everyday contact type of person. She was laughing when she found out how much time I spend with my bf 'cause when she was dating her now libra-ex she would spend 3 days out of 6 weeks with him and that was more than enough for her.

* Another thing, can Libras be involved with someone sexually or sensually without having any "more than friendship" connection with them?

Absolutely. Even the girls. Personally, I think everyone can but feel so guilty about sex (which is crazy!!!) that they get themselves into emotional attachments they don't really feel.
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[He did have plans but as long as you didn't have the expectation ... no harm, no foul.]

So true.. Expectations always leave people in situations were they are disappointed or hurt, and thats not on my list of things to accomplish this year AT ALL! lol


[That is how we end up with the wrong guy and it sounds like your last disasater was a case of bending and twisting for the wrong guy.]

Thats SOOOOOOOOO TRUE!! All throughout HS and even freshman year of college, I ended up unconsciously becoming someone I wasn't only to look stupid at the end of it.. Glad I learned a lesson but man, were those lessons hard...

[She also isn't an everyday contact type of person. She was laughing when she found out how much time I spend with my bf 'cause when she was dating her now libra-ex she would spend 3 days out of 6 weeks with him and that was more than enough for her.]

Why didnt her relationship with Libra work out?

See right now, I'm just trying to view him as a friend, and whateva be whateva, but then there are the few moments where I wonder if I should put him through this certain test to see if we could be something more. Thing is, do friends act the same lovers would? Like for instance, I texted him earlier today saying "hola boo. if possible, call me tonight. this past weekend was horrible and you are actually one of the few people who can make me smile right now" but it's 1:11 my time and yet, no call.. So I'm like hmmm.. I should probably block the whole "more than friendship" thing out of my head right? I mean, I KNOW his Monday's are busier than he wants but I'm a firm believer that if you want to talk to someone, you will def. make time for that person.. And I am just so fed up with dudes to where I'm just like, "first offence and NEXT!!" with no remorse or looking back? Harsh? I don't really see it that way..Plus, this is only good times, so there is no gurantee or anything of that nature that there will be more...
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About his behaviour , don't be furious , we can't always be there for friends...Yes , I agree that you will try to be with your friends if you want but sometimes , there are some unexpected things will happen ...there are other people who are way more in need of you than your friends and your lover ...Try to escape from your fixtation on him and look around to see people who need your support and your kindness.....
Drop all your tests too because this is where you will lose him...He can see straight through you...They are very observant and analytical...They won't tell you that and let you think that they don't care, that they are very easy -going but they are perfectionists at heart . They will though look past your faults because they are want to believe in your goodness...
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Exam,
You are right, very right. I wasn't furious though, not even close. I've said it before, my actions are far less passionate than my words (I'm a poet so it somewhat comes naturally). I didn't intend for my words to spew out anger or inconsideration, because I understand everyone has their own life too, so it was no biggie. However, there are times where I find myself being a nit-picky individual, trying to find one 'mistake' made in order to prove that all men are like my ex. It's something that I have greatly improved on but a 2 year habit is hard to break in the course of 6 months..So that's a battle that only I can fight and conquer. I don't really want to date out there because I'm actually VERY comfortable where I am right now. I am comfortable with him and I know that I'm not ready to go unto another stage with him because of the personal issues that still face me. I just sometimes get caught in the moment when it's a "more than friend" situation. It's like, where is the line? We aren't FWBs so I take that as a respect thing that he is giving me.

Hey QS! I am having fun though, don't get me wrong. I even texted my mommy yesterday saying this is probably the most comfortable and stressfree I have been with ANYONE, from my first boyfriend on.. I feel no discomfort at all, just free and relaxed. He does him, and I do me. But then my past has the tendency sometimes to haunt me, chasing my thoughts into a place where I feel I must prove he IS like the others. As if he can possibly hurt me again, without actually giving him a chance to just chill and learn more about who the real me is. It's like I WANT to find a major flaw or mistake so I can say "YUP! That's IT! He is JUST like the others" instead of actually seeing where things go. In short, I sometimes feel cold and hot, that he could possibly be something more but I would never know because I pushed him away without letting go of the past. One of my girls always tells me "Act as if you have never been hurt", but I don't act.. I was...So right now, I just need to get my stuff together, enjoying the moment, and see if he can be that one to prove me different...
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Been involved? lol, we are just friends.

Okay background info:
I have known him since my freshman year, his sophomore and have only been associates before. As in, I would talk with him once every 2 months or so on facebook just to catch up, nothing serious. He would constantly ask me why I was hiding, but I wasn't just wasn't interested in him lol. He goes to school down here but lives up north so we never hung out my freshman year, and I never really wanted to because I was with the one guy who I completely surrounded my life around... So then this year (sophomore yr) comes and the contact is still minimal on my side because I have pageants and press conferences to do, plus, I'm still with ole' dude... But then this second semester comes and I'm like, "Hey, you're cool.. we didn't chill last year because of my 'situations' but let's hang out one day" and he replied by saying "Whenever you have time for me" So that's when things started. I'm not even CLOSE to being head over heels with him, but I am interested in him, which stems more from me just knowing more and more about him on more than an associate type level.

In terms of real time, I think everytime we contact is real time. I HONESTLY am not on the level where I wanna see him often or talk to him everyday, that's just not where I am right now. The level and pace we are on now is good...comfortable and stressfree. The main reason I posted the thing about the text yesterday with no response is because I was frustrated more with the situation (my lil sister is close to death in a hospital bed) and it seemed as if everyone around me was more for saying "I know how you feel" (bs line) than just saying they would be there for me.

As luck has it, he texted me this morning while I was in class to ask me how I was feeling and to check on me, telling me that he also had a rough night because the guy across the hall from him died this weekend. So everything is really good. As I said, I just have the tendency to forget about other people when I feel as if my situation is worse than anyone else's until just one person opens my eyes to realize that I'm not the only one, and he did that, which also brought calmness and ease.
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[Okay, I hear ya, but from one scorp to another. It sounds like there is more to this than what you are saying (your feelings for this guy that is).]

I mean, I like him yea, but not enough to be with him just yet, if that makes sense. Like I don't really want anything fickle right now. If a relationship will form, I want it to be based just on feelings that have grown with time. I want to grow in love, not fall... So I mean right now, I do just like him. Sometimes a lot, but most of the time, I just like him and am interested in getting to know him more...I just dont want to rush anything, and I pretty sure that 1-2 months are not going to give me enough

Have you been together more than that one time intimately? Dates?

And nope, Feb 1st was the one and only time anything intimate happened. And dates? lol, we college students dont date, we chill 😉
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Like when its a college and both people are in school, (esp before the relationship), we don't call it "dates". It's more like we go chill at this place or go eat something here. Dates just seem so much more formal... Dates in that sense are more for when the relationship is official.

I just realized its only been 3 weeks..lol, weekdays are out of it because my car is at home, and my school is 45- hour away. So its only the weekends left which have been taken by something or the other. The 8th was a busy weekend for him and I had to go babysit. The 15th my brother had a sleepover so I had to go be the slave that weekend, and this past weekend I was in the hospital while he went to a wedding. So its more of a conflict of schedules that of interest. If he didn't even contact or contact the same amount as he did before anything happened then I would be skeptical, but I actually like it a lot, and if the attraction is still there when I see him, then its even better. Absence makes the heart grow fonder right?
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So, I just actually read through the topic and I see EXACTLY how my feelings coule be skewed. When I say that I feel feelings I haven't felt before, I don't mean anything even CLOSE to love, but more of feeling wanted. Like I would find myself in relationships that the guy wanted, but that I just had for convenience.. And yea, I knew they wanted me, but because it never was mutual in terms of feelings, I never wanted to feel wanted by them.. Well, my karma came through my last relationship because the cards were flipped, and I ended up being the one who wanted him but it not being mutual, and he used me.

So going back to what I intially said, he only makes me feel wanted in a way that I actually have wanted to feel... No love, no infatuation, nothing but comfortability..
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=) Update:

So things are on this continuous thing.. Before it would be like we spoke once/twice a week, but now there is some form of commincation everyday. I like that because its a slow progress, and like Ms. QS has been saying, taking time and just being there is vital right now. So yes, not much of an update but there is progression.

**Not pertaining to the Libra guyu** The one problem that I have realized about myself though is that I am a confusing person. Not sure if it's a Scorpio feature (I was actually told I was on the cusp of Libra/Scorpio (Nov.2nd bday)) but I have a hard time balancing my sexual needs and emotional needs. It's like, there are sometimes when I want just straight sex, no lovey dovey.. and then other things when I want that sensual caressing type stuff. But it's hard to balance and express, because I often leave the person confused...lol, It's like I'm either the 'love sap' or the 'do me sap' ha!
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Are you afraid of being hurt once you open up ,ATL_Scorpio? It sounds like you are really into him now. Maybe you weren't before but now you seem to be very serious about this relationship ...Probably you don't trust that you are "falling" for him too quickly (I'm sorry for use the term "fall" as I know you don't like it!) .Don't worry , sweetie, it's fine to feel that! 🙂
Maybe sometimes you feel that this feeling can be overwhelming and you want to run away or be left alone for awhile ...Do that and don't be afraid that it's wrong...Also, there is nothing wrong with feeling being wanted , being loved by another ...Just lean on that shoulder you have for awahile...who knows , there might be the potential of true love...Even it doesn't work out , don't fell bitter because you know that you have loved, the other person didn't then it was his/her loss.The love you had in the past / the affection you held will live in your heart and bloom like an eternal beautiful flower...

Now 2nd is not on the cusp I think.You're actually a full Scorpio.23rd Oct is more likely on the cusp!
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Whoa whoa whoa.. love? lol, def NOT in my vocab exam... and "fall".. excluded as well lol. I don't want to fall into anything, esp. with relationships. Falls aren't intentionally, and you never know where they can lead you. Instead, I would rather grow into something.. But either case, I don't see that right now in this situation.

I mean, I agree with you about me being scared and trying to run away from my feelings because I do that. I will contact him and then not contact him for a couple of days and then continue contact. Because its like, I wanna stop and just go by myself so that way I won't lose anything, but its like, how long can I just stay in a corner and fear pain? Something in me just tells me to give this a try and do what I can, and then if it doesnt work (or form into a stable relationship) be content with the fact that I have done all I could... But love, and falling? Oh hell no lol, I def. dont see that..

I'm "growing to like him".. and that's it.
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ATL_Scorpio , of course LOVE is in your vocabulary , love for your parents, love for your friends , aren't it love? 😛
I wonder why people have to discriminate their feeling into so many words :like , fall in love ,....love....what more to come 😛
Anyway, I know why you don't want to use the word "fall" . It's the control issue .Controlling your own feeling and your involvement in relationships in order to protect yourself. But maybe if you just relax and forget "how you want this feeling to grow" before it turns into a "push and pull" dance .
Just my view , have a nice week 🙂
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Awww exam [hugs], you read me quite well I must add...

**Controlling your own feeling and your involvement in relationships in order to protect yourself.**

Is there really a problem with this though? =/ ...My type of controlling feelings would be me acting and expressing in moderation.. not just becoming oblivious to them (I hope I wont do that).

**But maybe if you just relax and forget "how you want this feeling to grow" before it turns into a "push and pull" dance**

What do you mean? [lost]
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Update::

Sorry, I haven't been on here in a WHILE. This week is Spring Break and I have been vacationing ALL OVER the country (yes yes yes! lol). But yea, things have been going well between Mr. Libra and I. And yesterday, things took a different direction. We spoke for 3 hours on the phone and he was asking if I could come over repeatedly, even though I wasn't able to because I was tired from my trip back home. I told him that I was going to spend the weekend with him, so that shut him up...temporarily! So then today, he randomly sent me a text asking if I could spend some time today..And I'm looking like "Since when did he want to see me more?" lol, but there was no way because I have to get my hair done tomorrow morning and run too many earrans. I just told him that he can have me all Sat and Sun if he wanted, and that cooled it.

So, ladies/gentlemen/anyone, where did this behavior sporadically come from? It went from talking and texting 3-4 times a week to him wanting to spend time..a lot...Hmm.. [smile] I like it 😉
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Enjoy it if you feel like it and don't question too much at this stage...What you think meant something very special propably just the usual way that Libra men treat their lady friends 😉
Oh , and I think it was like a reward for your patience ...it will come soon the time he withdraws and needs some space ....and it is going to be a long time ....then he is balanced again and comes out to bring you roses 😛